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Senator calls for national biometric ID

 
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Republican senator Lindsey Graham said he will introduce legislation to replace all paper social security cards with plastic biometric ID cards which cannot be duplicated.

the fearmongering over ID theft has reached the level as to which the sheeple will just eat this up. "PLEASE PLEASE give us our shiny new biometric ID cards!"

"it's for the children."

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what a barf-o-rama. It really seems to me that if most people weren't so busy a) busting their ass preoccupied at work working to pay the bills and then b) reverting to vegging out in front of the tv when they come home in the evening, they'd have more of their faculties available to immediately see this crap for what it is.

so maybe it's not a question of people's intelligence, really, but more of the energy they have available to focus their native intellect.

...on a cooler note, your avatar/image is AWESOME - where is it from?

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yup. it's almost even forgivable insofar that with ALL THIS CRAP coming at everyone 24/7, folks STILL have to go to work and otherwise go about their lives.

"huh, that kinda sucks - but then again everything sucks. i wonder if the sopranos is on..."

its gonna take a miracle to wake everyone up.

thanks about the av - its stock - i looked at as many as i could and found the one "most like me"...
the meek are ready...


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In 2005 Congress passed the Real ID act, under which it is projected by 2009 YOU will be required to carry around a federal identification card, which identifies YOU to a national database. The id card will likely soon after be equipped with an RFID chip, which is already included in the new US Passports. The final step is the implanted chip. Many people have already accepted the implanted RFID chip. In the end everybody will be locked into a monitored control grid, where every single action you perform is documented. If you get out of line, they can just turn off your chip, because at that point in time, every single interaction with society will revolve around interactions with the chips. This is the picture being painted for the future if you open your eyes to see it - a centralized one world economy, where everyone's moves and everyone's transactions are tracked and monitored, all rights removed. If the people don't wake up, these totalitarian elements will not be forced on people, the people will demand them for security, for the social manipulation through fear and division has completely detached most humans from reality.

This has been going on for millenia: religion, patriotism, race, wealth, class, and every other form of arbitrary, separatist identification and thus conceit has thus served to create a controlled population, utterly maleable in the hands of the few. "Divide and conquer" is their motto, and as long as people consider themselves as separate from everything else they lend themselves to being completely enslaved. The men behind the curtain know this and they also know that if people learn the Truth, the entire manufactured illusion they pray upon will collapse.
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In 2005 an arrangement between Canada, United States and Mexico was made. This arrangement merges United States, Mexico and Canada into one entity, erasing all borders. It's called the North American Union. President Bush signed an agreement that will end the United States as we know it. NAU is not a trade agreement, it is a total removal of sovereignties from those countries, and will result in a completely new currency, called the amero. The American Constitution will be made obsolete in this union. You would think this story would be on the front cover of every magazine, but the people behind are the same people that are behind the mainstream media. They only tell you what they want you to know. The North American Union is the same concept as the European Union, the African Union, and the soon to be Asian Union. The same people are behind all of them. Eventually they plan to merge the North American Union, the European Union, the African Union and the Asian Union - ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. One bank, one army, one center of power. If we have learned one thing from history, it is that power corrupts.
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In 2005 an arrangement between Canada, United States and Mexico was made. This arrangement merges United States, Mexico and Canada into one entity, erasing all borders. It's called the North American Union. President Bush signed an agreement that will end the United States as we know it. NAU is not a trade agreement, it is a total removal of sovereignties from those countries, and will result in a completely new currency, called the amero. The American Constitution will be made obsolete in this union. You would think this story would be on the front cover of every magazine, but the people behind are the same people that are behind the mainstream media. They only tell you what they want you to know. The North American Union is the same concept as the European Union, the African Union, and the soon to be Asian Union. The same people are behind all of them. Eventually they plan to merge the North American Union, the European Union, the African Union and the Asian Union - ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. One bank, one army, one center of power. If we have learned one thing from history, it is that power corrupts.
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i'm thinking that when you look at the developments in britian with the cameras an all, and then the story about china surpassing the british model in a near instant. and the stuff here in america. i would agree that it seems to be working in sync towards implementation of a worldwide system in the relative near term.
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yup. it's almost even forgivable insofar that with ALL THIS CRAP coming at everyone 24/7, folks STILL have to go to work and otherwise go about their lives.

"huh, that kinda sucks - but then again everything sucks. i wonder if the sopranos is on..."

its gonna take a miracle to wake everyone up.

thanks about the av - its stock - i looked at as many as i could and found the one "most like me"...
 Quoting: 3c?


Hah, re: your first point it's good have someone else put their finger on that too. My version goes: *traffic/job/stress/traffic/personal work projects including ones to save $ and bring in more $/world-historical-symbolism research/sleep* ...It's been easy at times lately to sucker myself into believing it's just me being a whiny little bitch. ( thank you, the polls are now open to validate my non-wussyness! line begins at left :-o ) But really, where's the time to decompress and reflect? Hmmm, maybe it's time to just make that happen. ...Good stuff. Best ~
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gradient's thread on the china thing.
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Graham: Social Security cards should be revamped
By SEANNA ADCOX, The Associated Press | Wednesday, August 08, 2007

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COLUMBIA, S.C. - U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham said Tuesday he will introduce legislation to replace all paper Social Security cards with plastic biometric cards that can't be duplicated, so employers can be certain of the legal status of their workers.

The South Carolina Republican said Congress must address the out-of-control illegal immigration problem, and last month's defeat of comprehensive immigration reform in the Senate means the problem must be tackled piecemeal.

"The root cause, the basic problem with immigration is employment," Graham said. "The reason people come here in such large numbers is to get the jobs in America that pay more in one day they can make maybe in six months where they come from."

America needs a legal guest worker program to fill jobs citizens don't want, but the U.S. must control who enters the country for national security, he said.

Employers need a system they can rely on to determine the legal status of potential workers, so Graham said he plans to introduce a bill this fall to replace all Social Security cards over the next 10 years at a cost of $8 billion to $10 billion. The new cards would be tamperproof.

"The documents used to get a job in America, a Social Security card, is a piece of paper that's easily, fraudulently duplicated," Graham said at the University of South Carolina, where he demonstrated a program employers can use to check the legal status of workers along with Homeland Security Department Secretary Michael Chertoff.

Until all Americans have a secure form of identification, the best worker identification tool is a voluntary federal program used by 19,000 employers so far, Chertoff said. The computerized system verifies that the name, age, and Social Security workers give to employers match, he said.

Chertoff acknowledged the system, which would have been mandatory under the comprehensive immigration reform, has flaws. Though it will catch workers who supply fake Social Security numbers, it won't catch those who use stolen identities, he said.

Adding photo verification to the system will help. That has already started for people who hold green cards, Chertoff said.

Graham said he understands state lawmakers opposition to the federal 2005 REAL ID Act. South Carolina is among states that rejected the unfunded federal mandate for new national driver's license standards, estimated to cost states $11 billion to implement.

"A driver's license is not the way to solve the problem," he said.

Other complaints about REAL ID requirements were that some people, especially older residents, may not have original birth certificates to verify who they are. Graham said his legislation would allow for other forms of verification.
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I think the Senator should go get one, but leave the rest of us the fuck alone!

Dale Out!
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you notice how the article doesnt bother to outline the biometric part of the plan? nope - just a word. the brits are going with iris id, and i believe the US is going for both iris and digital fingerprint. i'll look for link.
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Watch around 1:30-1:40 Tony Snow starts talking about Biometric ID card.


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HEY YA FUCKTARD SENATOR. I GOT A FUCKING TRACKING CHIP FER YOU.

rocket

ALL I GOTTA DO IS FOLLOW THE BLOOD TRAIL TO FIND YA!
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Way back when the Social Security cards were issued, THEY promised, that these cards were NEVER going to be for IDENTIFICATION, They promised !

The cards even had printing that said that right on them.

NOW, look, and can WE EVER believe ANYTHING, that those who take bribes, called POLITICIANs, and OFFICIALs, ever say again?

THE ANSWER !

NO no no, a thousand times NO !
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you notice how the article doesnt bother to outline the biometric part of the plan? nope - just a word. the brits are going with iris id, and i believe the US is going for both iris and digital fingerprint. i'll look for link.
 Quoting: 3c?



Iris/retinal scans = head

Digital fingerprint/chip implant = hand



Just like the Good Book says, boys and girls.


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Chips are manufactured which means they can be re-manufactured.

Maybe I can buy a Rockefeller chip on eBay.
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i'm an american calling for a public flogging of the senator - mel gibson style
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Is Republican senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina a homosexual? He's in his 50's, never married, and the only woman he's seen with is his sister. Anyone from SC know why this isn't ever mentioned?
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The Real ID Act has been scoffed and rejected by an amazing 20 or so states due to so called "financial costs". From what I understand, the gov is allowing them more time to implement what Pres Bush signed as mandatory by 2008 - - but to my knowledge, no state is immune - - just given more time.

Irvin Baxter, preacher and radio talkshow host of Politics and Religion, has been our #1 crusader against The Real ID Act since it's inception. You can chalk up the 20 state resisters to him and the publicity he's generated.


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you notice how the article doesnt bother to outline the biometric part of the plan? nope - just a word. the brits are going with iris id, and i believe the US is going for both iris and digital fingerprint. i'll look for link.



Iris/retinal scans = head

Digital fingerprint/chip implant = hand



Just like the Good Book says, boys and girls.


5a
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Well, like yeah, your eyes must be in your forehead and you have finger prints on the back of hand,LOL.

You bible doomers crack me up!
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HEY YA FUCKTARD SENATOR. I GOT A FUCKING TRACKING CHIP FER YOU.

rocket

ALL I GOTTA DO IS FOLLOW THE BLOOD TRAIL TO FIND YA!
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good one dude LOL
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From the May 2007 Idaho Observer:

The global RFID numbering and tracking agenda

While American adults and legislatures from at least 34 states are in open rebellion of the Real ID Act expected to go into effect a year from now, they are generally unaware that a campaign to open a universal, cradle-to-grave ID dossier on children is quietly moving forward.

By Don Harkins

In mid-April, 2007, a note was sent home to the parents of children attending elementary school in Grangeville, Idaho, seeking their consent to have "Ident-a-Kid" photograph and fingerprint students. The school took the liberty of taking pictures and prints of 400 to 500 children—whether their parents had consented or not.

The "service" was paid for by the PTA. Jane Lesko of Idaho Eagle Forum reported that Ident-a-Kid does not indicate a board of directors or the identities of any officers or employees on its website. The site encourages people to buy a franchise and then pitch the service to schools, communities and private organizations.

In other words, schools are deciding to have a complete stranger take pictures and prints of children and pad the record with personal information. Ident-A-Kid also advocates setting up school-wide security systems.

Then the stranger takes this "positive identification" from the school and puts it on his database for 60 days while he is making a driver’s license-like card to give to their parents later. No one knows anything about this stranger and he is not an officer of the law. There is no security of information to protect the child or be protected from identity theft. An image on the website shows a computer screen with a little girl’s picture on it. "This tells me that they plan to have this information on the schools database, too. This looks like the national ID for kids," Lesko observed.

According to its nondescript website, "...Ident-A-Kid Services of America, Inc., [founded in 1986] is the pioneer in Immediate Response Child Identification. Through its 240-plus locations, Ident-A-Kid annually provides over three million ID cards to parents at schools and other locations throughout the United States. The Ident-A-Kid card is a driver’s license-like card that contains a child’s photograph, fingerprint and description. Parents keep the card with them at all times and, in an emergency, can provide law enforcement with it for immediate response."

Atop its website is the claim that, according to the U.S. Department of Justice, "On average, 2,185 children are reported missing each day."

Cradle to grave

Activist Vickie Davis, alarmed at the implications of the Grangeville example reported by Lesko, pulled some data together showing that Ident-a-Kid is part of a global, cradle-to-grave ID system. "Some companies like Ident-a-Kid and groups like the National Center for Missing Children are taking the ID information—that includes biometric data, fingerprints or iris scans—and are putting them in a national database. My suspicions are that the data is making it’s way into the U.S. edition of the cradle-to-grave Total Information Awareness system that is being implemented in Dutch schools."

Davis posted a link to an MSNBC article from Sept., 2005, describing how "The Dutch government will begin tracking every citizen from cradle to grave in a single database, opening an electronic dossier for every child at birth with health and family data and, eventually, school and police records."

The system was to be in operation by Jan., 2007. "…[E]ach child will get a Citizen Service Number, making it easier to track children with problems even when their families move," the article said.

The global agenda

"Where is all this coming from?" Lesko asked and then stated, "It’s not from the U.S."

Davis found links to similar "cradle-to-grave" ID programs in Great Britain, Australia, China and Japan. The systems are identical in that the databases require a unique identifier, preferably biometric, for each category (medical, personal, occupational, education, criminal, financial) of information. But the key for a regional database (like the European Union or the North American Union) linking to other regional databases will be a numbering system that contains the code for county, state or province (called a "smart" number) plus an "up" number which is the unique number assigned to the individual at birth.

"That’s why everybody needs a new ID. What the traitors in Washington DC really want is to assign everybody a unique number for the combined NAU database," Davis observed.



CASPIAN generates good press opposing chips

Protesting community care center plan to chip Alzheimers

patients helped deliver broader "spychip" message to area

Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering (CASPIAN), led by Katherine Albrecht, co-author of "Spychips," sponsored a weekend prayer vigil in West Palm Beach, Florida the weekend of May 12, 2007, to protest the planned implantation of 200 Alzheimer’s patients with VeriChip devices. Around 30 CASPIAN supporters gathered in friendship and prayer outside of the Alzheimer’s Community Care Center where the proposed chipping is intended to be carried out. The group ranged in age from a baby a few months old to a gentleman over 80 and included a diverse crew of surfers, lawyers, professors, homemakers, school kids and college students. "Representing many races and walks of life, we were united in the defense of human dignity," Albrecht reported.

Above is one photo taken from a slide show of the event posted at www.spychips.com/slideshow-may12/index.html Albrecht reported that the event received major local television, newspaper, and radio coverage. "On Friday night I got a chance to drive by the VeriChip world headquarters (actually just a second-floor office in a rather nondescript office building) where organizers and I snapped a few photos. Then Saturday morning I headed over to Clear Channel’s WJNO 1290 AM, the #1 talk radio station in the Palm Beach area, where I did a one hour on-air interview," Albrecht said.

The Clear Channel interview was followed by interviews with Channel 12 News, the local CBS affiliate, and the Palm Beach Post, the area’s largest newspaper. "Not surprisingly, the Palm Beach community has responded with outrage to AlzCare’s microchipping plans."

CASPIAN vows that, "This is just the start of our activities to oppose the microchipping of human beings."

CASPIAN’s efforts will be posted to both the spychips.com website and the website at AntiChips.com. People who oppose the chipping agenda are encouraged to interact with the site and participate in the campaign to stop this invasive process.


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This NWO tool is just doing his job, and yes the reason he hasn't been married is because he is into little boys probably, typical Republican office holder.
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you notice how the article doesnt bother to outline the biometric part of the plan? nope - just a word. the brits are going with iris id, and i believe the US is going for both iris and digital fingerprint. i'll look for link.



Iris/retinal scans = head

Digital fingerprint/chip implant = hand



Just like the Good Book says, boys and girls.


5a


Well, like yeah, your eyes must be in your forehead and you have finger prints on the back of hand,LOL.

You bible doomers crack me up!
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I'm no doomer and your references to the forehead and back of the hand are nowhere to be found in The Word.

Rumor and hear-say ... of course you would have to read it yourself to know any different.


Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
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Chips are manufactured which means they can be re-manufactured.

Maybe I can buy a Rockefeller chip on eBay.
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Yes, RFID technology has many serious security risks. They must be counting on public ignorance, because RFID is extremely easy to hack/clone/destroy, with DIY technology, which is already available among the "researchers".

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Say no to control! Let's not let them get to the next step even. Say no to the new card!
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OK - - maybe the forehead's in there - - LOL!

Yeah, so how good do you think you would be at describing something nearly 2000 years in the future?


36 states now? Coolio, EWO!


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Start taking out cash and buying silver coins in case you need them for purchasing power. There likely will be a time that the new card and cash will both be operational at the same time. Do not allow the new card! Contact your reps and tell them NO WAY!
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