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Only idiots join the military?

 
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Only idiots join the military?
I've always thought even when I was in high school that someone would have to be a moron to join the army. What do you guys think? Why in the hell would someone join a group like that? I don't think there is any amount of money that they could pay me to join the army. Maybe 1 million dollars but that's about it. That's about as fascist as you get. My father was in the military and I saw how retarded he was so I definitely knew not to join. I guess that's what separated me from some of my friends who joined. They didn't see what I saw.
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08/11/2007 11:42 PM
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
My father was in the navy for 30 years (retired now), and he is a very smart man. Don't assume that young men are in it just because they have nothing else to do, some make a pretty nice career out of it.
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08/11/2007 11:47 PM
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
If only idiots joined the military then we would indeed be in trouble. But thankfully that is not the case and many of our best and brightest seek a career there. The problem with our government has never been with the military - it is with those issuing the orders to our armed service men and women. It will be they which we depend on should orders come from above that our unconsciousable to an American citizen. Let's hope they can do what they must for the good of the country should that day come.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
only idiots stereotype people who join the military? i joined the US Army and my brother did too. Both of us are smart and scored very high on our asvabs and sats. If you actually joined any part of the military you would realize the military has alot of different types of people in it. It really dont have much to do with the money even tho thats why i joined in the first place but if i had to do it again i would for less money. the military has some of the smartest people in the country enlisted it just depends on your personal beliefs and views that depends of if you sign up or not. nothin to do with how smart or stupid you are. its like youre thinkin in the caveman era where you think we just go out like retards and battle each other with clubs because we are too stupid and unadvanced from our deformed brains to do anything else.
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08/11/2007 11:50 PM
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
yeah OP, change your perspective. stereotyping is pretty closed-minded.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
As an Army veteran, I will agree. I was 18 and got duped into joining the Army because I regrettably was an idiot. I would like to think that I am less of an idiot now than I was some 19 years ago.

Joining the Army taught me a lesson of how idiotic I actually was. Fortunately, my ignorance was self evident quite quickly and I soon got out of the Army and went to college instead.

The government tit will take care of you well in the military, but you are basically owned by the said government. If you want to control your destiny better, don't be an idiot and join and remember that no matter what a recruiter tells you, that you are capable of being more than a soldier.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
Your the "IDIOT",But the BONG away...
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
I dunno.
I weighed 117 pounds when I joined. I came out of basic training weighing a fit 150.
The Army taught me a foreign language to use in my job. I traveled to several states within the US, then went overseas.
At duty stations, and when I went on leave, I saw most of Western Europe (it was in the 80's), much of the Middle East, North Africa.
When I got out, my college tuition was paid for. I had a sense of myself. More confident.

All in all, it was a win win win win win situation for me.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
[link to www.lexrex.com]

war is a racket.

war is a creation of greedy cowards who gladly spill the blood of others for power and money.. and it always has been. think about it, what would it take for you to kill a stranger, who poses no threat to your family, your own self, your possessions, just someone who for the same reasons as you is in a uniform (or not), scared out of his (or her) mind, and on a battle line (or protecting his own land/possessions)?

now THIS invasion ("war") is positively darwinian. at this point, if you willingly consign yourself to iraq, you're a blithering idiot. what you're saying is: "sure... wrap me up in a camo suit, no protection, stick me in an unarmored cheapass humvee, and send me out to blow women and kids to smithereens for the sake of a group of psychotic masters of the universe and their stock portfolios". i'd rather starve to death on the streets of my city than "fight" for this country.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
That's a bit harsh don't ya think? People join the military for all kinds of reasons. No, I don't idiots join the military. I can see your point not to join, but others don't.
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08/11/2007 11:58 PM
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
I would say about 10% are intelligent. I mostly joined for the experience. It is like summer camp baby. hehe..
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
I've always thought even when I was in high school that someone would have to be a moron to join the army. What do you guys think? Why in the hell would someone join a group like that? I don't think there is any amount of money that they could pay me to join the army. Maybe 1 million dollars but that's about it. That's about as fascist as you get. My father was in the military and I saw how retarded he was so I definitely knew not to join. I guess that's what separated me from some of my friends who joined. They didn't see what I saw.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281178

OP. My father would be your biggest supporter and yet you think he was idiot. He was in a rapid deployment force, electronic recon, and trust me he is not an idiot and is a faithful fighter. He got out, graduated with honors, and is a computer scientist/software architect.

Hardly an idiot.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
Intelligence as apposed to say book smart and street smart. Where you know book smart is disciplined, good mannered guy, hard charging his or her way up the ranks. Book smart can also lead to a job with pay bonuses and having it fairly easy. Then there is street smart where one may be able to make friends, get "hook ups", learn the "tricks of the trade" and deal with opportunities. Then there is the hybrid, a little of each. That is kind of my crude analysis of people in the military and probably elsewhere.

Intelligence to me would be the mind on philosophy, not caring all so much for money but for self virtue and living life truthfully but may not living life to the "fullest" but just by living day to day i guess. Philosophy may not pertain but a "talk softly and carry a big stick" mentality is what I am thinking. Intelligence listens more than speaks IMO.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
I've always thought even when I was in high school that someone would have to be a moron to join the army. What do you guys think? Why in the hell would someone join a group like that? I don't think there is any amount of money that they could pay me to join the army. Maybe 1 million dollars but that's about it. That's about as fascist as you get. My father was in the military and I saw how retarded he was so I definitely knew not to join. I guess that's what separated me from some of my friends who joined. They didn't see what I saw.
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Without them we would have a draft, so it is their decision to join... and god bless them from keeping people that do not want to go to war, from going!
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
"Idiots" is a little harsh, tho the appellation "fools" is undenialble.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
and fools fall in love. Let us not dig ourselves a judgmental finger pointing pit.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
I've always thought even when I was in high school that someone would have to be a moron to join the army. What do you guys think? Why in the hell would someone join a group like that? I don't think there is any amount of money that they could pay me to join the army. Maybe 1 million dollars but that's about it. That's about as fascist as you get. My father was in the military and I saw how retarded he was so I definitely knew not to join. I guess that's what separated me from some of my friends who joined. They didn't see what I saw.
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I've always thought that OPs that start rant threads designed to divide and start flame wars (A.k.a. trolls) were morons. This thread is a perfect example that proves my point.

People join the military for different reasons, and to condemn or judge someone for taking on responsibilities that you yourself are too cowardly to undertake is a sign that you lack the courage, strength, commitment, patriotism and fortitude to serve your country.

Your freedom didn't come free, and it sure as hell didn't come without loss of life. You should honor those that have served, rather than berate them for their service to country.

I'm assuming you're a guy, so for the record I'd like to point out the fact that this old lady veteran had more balls to defend your freedom than you ever did. I hope that you may someday learn what sacrifice and patriotism are.

With assholes like you in the world, it's no wonder that our country has sunk into such dire times.
"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."

"When TSHTF, don't ask Vixen, because she doesn't know shit."
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08/12/2007 12:53 AM
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I'm assuming you're a guy, so for the record I'd like to point out the fact that this old lady veteran had more balls to defend your freedom than you ever did. I hope that you may someday learn what sacrifice and patriotism are.

With assholes like you in the world, it's no wonder that our country has sunk into such dire times.
 Quoting: ~Vixen~

Hasn't the country sank into such dire times in part because of the military? Overtly patriotic zealots join up, wave the flag, kill some people in the name of "duty" while following the orders of a Criminal Cabal in Washington DC who are DESTROYING THE COUNTRY!

Aren't the military responsible for enabling Bush/Cheney and their destruction of the American Constitution, the Bill of Rights and even the United States itself (NAU)? I say yes!

PATRIOTISM IS AMERICA'S ACHILLES HEEL... AS HAS BEEN EVIDENCED BY THE PAST 7 YEARS.
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Hasn't the country sank into such dire times in part because of the military? Overtly patriotic zealots join up, wave the flag, kill some people in the name of "duty" while following the orders of a Criminal Cabal in Washington DC who are DESTROYING THE COUNTRY!

Aren't the military responsible for enabling Bush/Cheney and their destruction of the American Constitution, the Bill of Rights and even the United States itself (NAU)? I say yes!

PATRIOTISM IS AMERICA'S ACHILLES HEEL... AS HAS BEEN EVIDENCED BY THE PAST 7 YEARS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281007


I disagree. The military didn't start the war, they simply get stuck in the line of fire as pawns of the cowardly politicians. The idiots of this country voted in the current administration and politicians, so don't try to blame the military members for that. To insinuate that military members want war is ridiculous. Generally speaking, one doesn't join to fight and die, because dying isn't exactly one of the things people like to do. If I remember correctly, as far as contributions to presidential candidates, the military overwhelming supports Ron Paul because he is against the war.

Do you think you'd be safer if there were NO military? Do you think that if we recalled and discharged all troops that foreign countries wouldn't take advantage of it and invade, pillage, rape and steal all that we have? The history of war is as long as the history of this planet, and our servicemen deserve respect for their sacrifices.

Following orders is what the military does. Orders are the rules that servicemembers follow, just as you follow rules in your workplace. Respect military men and women for their sacrifices, because if they didn't stand up to defend your freedom, you'd probably be typing in Chinese or Russian right now.
"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."

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Re: Only idiots join the military?
Yes, OP. You're right on the money. Problem is, there are so many stupid retards out there that will disagree. "My daddy was in the blah, blah, blah... and he was a smart man, blah, blah, blah."
My dad was in the navy, and he's an arrogant asshole. His famous quote on the ME, "They should kill all them crazy people."
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
If people didn't join the military do you think you'd be using a computer right now? Do you think you'd be using English? Think first, then ask.
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08/12/2007 01:38 AM
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
hooah! Vixen
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I have no respect or admiration whatsoever for what my father has done. He was a terrible father, but has a wall full of plaques concerning absolute bullshit. Hope those plaques keep him company.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
If people didn't join the military do you think you'd be using a computer right now? Do you think you'd be using English? Think first, then ask.
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LOL...you're an idiot.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
<His famous quote on the ME>

Who's the stupid retard?
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If people didn't join the military do you think you'd be using a computer right now? Do you think you'd be using English? Think first, then ask.


LOL...you're an idiot.
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Someone else that didn't stop to think.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
Uso desu. My husband is in the military. Brilliant young man. He's in the air force and studying computers and cryptology.

Your theory fails.
Dreams will begin as they fade into chaos.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
Cowards always start threads like this. They look for someone that will agree with them. That will make them feel better about their cowardice.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
If people didn't join the military do you think you'd be using a computer right now? Do you think you'd be using English? Think first, then ask.


LOL...you're an idiot.
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Also you're way off here. If you knew who I was you'd want to be me.
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Re: Only idiots join the military?
Cowards? Try holding a meaningful job down and contributing something to society instead of sitting on your lazy, good-for-nothing ass sucking the government tit and contributing to nothing but murder for oil.
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Cowards? Try holding a meaningful job down and contributing something to society instead of sitting on your lazy, good-for-nothing ass sucking the government tit and contributing to nothing but murder for oil.
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You must be young AND ignorant.

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