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Haiti UFO video -- FAKE

 
Anonymous Coward
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08/12/2007 01:56 PM
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Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
I'm a 3d animator working for a small studio in vancouver. I have a good knowledge in compositing and effects.....and this video isn't that convincing.

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

Proof that this is fake:
[link to i16.tinypic.com]

A video showing the inconsistencies in the Haiti UFO video:
[link to www.ufo-blog.com]

some examples of amateur photo realistic 3d:
[link to forums.cgsociety.org]

Software used:
[link to download-e-onsoftware.com]
Bao2

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08/12/2007 03:33 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
In the video of the second link "Haiti video" you can see between position 0:3 seconds and 0:6 secons something blocks intermitently the principal central light in the UFO that the camera follows. That is an error in rendering.

I also am a 3D hobbyst.
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08/12/2007 04:01 PM
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Let me help.... bump hf
There are lies, damned lies and 9-11!
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08/12/2007 04:07 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
I won't believe you until you can produce a video with CGI that can equal the quality of the Haiti video. Until then, you're just talk, and talk is cheap.
Da Swede

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08/12/2007 04:08 PM
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If there´s only one link that you´re gonne see, make it this one. A video showing the inconsistencies in the Haiti UFO video:
[link to www.ufo-blog.com]
There are lies, damned lies and 9-11!
[link to bryce2-2u.freeservers.com]
Anonymous Coward
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08/12/2007 04:10 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
I don't believe anything I see on the net.

But I did see a "UFO" about 3 weeks ago, was a whole bunch of VIVID blue lights kind of rotating... also was a little bit of red mixed in to make me think "police lights"... which it could have been, a helicopter, but man these blue lights were piercing. It was late and I was trying to get back home so I didn't stop on the highway to observe. Wish I did tho. It was definitely airborne and definitely in motion, but a mountain soon came between my car and the lights, and I never say them again. Oh well. Even in real life, I take a curiosity and then move on. With internet stuff, I barely even take a curious gander at all. This Haiti video is pretty stupid if you ask me.
Da Swede

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08/12/2007 04:13 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
I won't believe you until you can produce a video with CGI that can equal the quality of the Haiti video. Until then, you're just talk, and talk is cheap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281497


Go to bed, we are not obliged to do any such thing.
You are confused, and probably in dire need of sleep, SLEEP!!

This is not a discussion about the quality of the videos, it´s about the inconsistencies, wich make it obvious that we are seeing a Computer Generated Animation, not a camera-shot video. Hoax or no hoax, that´s the question, and the aswer is.......HOAX ! ! !

Had you forgotten that?
There are lies, damned lies and 9-11!
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Anonymous Coward
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08/12/2007 04:17 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
I won't believe you until you can produce a video with CGI that can equal the quality of the Haiti video. Until then, you're just talk, and talk is cheap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281497


-- WE HATE YOUR LIES, FRAUD AND FAKERY --

Heres another CGI video through a city for comparison, proof they are lying about the CGI being impossible

[link to www.youtube.com]

-- WE HATE YOUR LIES, FRAUD AND FAKERY --

heres the video that shows that the two UFO videos taken hundreds miles apart have the same tree tops, and even the same tree tops within the same video, where they paste on top of each other perfectly:

[link to www.ufo-blog.com]

-- WE HATE YOUR LIES, FRAUD AND FAKERY --

heres the demo to the software that makes the backgrounds, in the demo video, you can see a scenery exactly like haiti video. again this shows you lie when you say its not possible to be CGI, we have the software demo showing it:

[link to download-e-onsoftware.com]

-- WE HATE YOUR LIES, FRAUD AND FAKERY --

screen shot of the fakery:

[link to img362.imageshack.us]

-- WE HATE YOUR LIES, FRAUD AND FAKERY --

we know about how you are fake and we dont want you here anymore. we hate your lies and we know about the haiti videos

-- WE HATE YOUR LIES, FRAUD AND FAKERY --
Anonymous Coward
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08/12/2007 04:19 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
I won't believe you until you can produce a video with CGI that can equal the quality of the Haiti video. Until then, you're just talk, and talk is cheap.


-- WE HATE YOUR LIES, FRAUD AND FAKERY --

Heres another CGI video through a city for comparison, proof they are lying about the CGI being impossible

[link to www.youtube.com]

-- WE HATE YOUR LIES, FRAUD AND FAKERY --

heres the video that shows that the two UFO videos taken hundreds miles apart have the same tree tops, and even the same tree tops within the same video, where they paste on top of each other perfectly:

[link to www.ufo-blog.com]

-- WE HATE YOUR LIES, FRAUD AND FAKERY --

heres the demo to the software that makes the backgrounds, in the demo video, you can see a scenery exactly like haiti video. again this shows you lie when you say its not possible to be CGI, we have the software demo showing it:

[link to download-e-onsoftware.com]

-- WE HATE YOUR LIES, FRAUD AND FAKERY --

screen shot of the fakery:

[link to img362.imageshack.us]

-- WE HATE YOUR LIES, FRAUD AND FAKERY --

we know about how you are fake and we dont want you here anymore. we hate your lies and we know about the haiti videos

-- WE HATE YOUR LIES, FRAUD AND FAKERY --

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281495



just a ? is there more then 1 person in your head?
do you need meds?
whats this we shit, your only 1 poster..........
Anonymous Coward
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08/12/2007 04:22 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
Go to bed, we are not obliged to do any such thing.
 Quoting: Da Swede


I knew you would turn tail and run. You prove that you are nothing but empty talk. You CAN'T produce anything of substance so you try to weasle your way out. Talk is cheap and that is all you do! !lol
Anonymous Coward
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08/12/2007 04:25 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
Go to bed, we are not obliged to do any such thing.


I knew you would turn tail and run. You prove that you are nothing but empty talk. You CAN'T produce anything of substance so you try to weasle your way out. Talk is cheap and that is all you do! !lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281497



isn't that all you can do on a bord?
isn't that what we all are doing?
or are you in differn't kinda place in your head?
meds please. they make them to help you.
Anonymous Coward
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08/12/2007 04:29 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
isn't that all you can do on a bord?
isn't that what we all are doing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 114296


Are you kidding?!! We are here discussing amazing UFO video and in the face of that you claim that all we can do is talk on the internet? Obviously, we can do much more than talk...we can produce video evidence! Wake up! Come out into the real world!!
Da Swede

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08/12/2007 04:39 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
let me repeat that...

This is not a discussion about the quality of the videos, it´s about the inconsistencies, wich make it obvious that we are seeing a Computer Generated Animation, not a camera-shot video.
Hoax or no hoax, that´s the question, and the aswer is.......HOAX ! ! !

There are lies, damned lies and 9-11!
[link to bryce2-2u.freeservers.com]
Anonymous Coward
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08/12/2007 04:42 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
let me repeat that...

This is not a discussion about the quality of the videos, it´s about the inconsistencies, wich make it obvious that we are seeing a Computer Generated Animation, not a camera-shot video.
Hoax or no hoax, that´s the question, and the aswer is.......HOAX ! ! !

 Quoting: Da Swede


let me repeat...
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[your really just talking to yourself]
[but it's ok]
Da Swede

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08/12/2007 04:43 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
...we can produce video evidence! Wake up! Come out into the real world!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281497


Ok...and the UFOs..they just show up at your command??

scratching hmm
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Anonymous Coward
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08/12/2007 04:44 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
I believe video evdience over cheap talk. Talk is too easy. Lies are too easy for some people, and some of you seem to be lying to yourselves...probably out of fear of the unknown. Face the truth. They are here, and they are getting closer.
Anonymous Coward
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08/12/2007 04:45 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
isn't that all you can do on a bord?
isn't that what we all are doing?


Are you kidding?!! We are here discussing amazing UFO video and in the face of that you claim that all we can do is talk on the internet? Obviously, we can do much more than talk...we can produce video evidence! Wake up! Come out into the real world!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281497


im sorry i thought all debunkers don't belife in
"video evidence", so it kinda just leaves us,
biching back and forth, so sence the debunker take the stand that nothings real, they win by default,
beacuse they allway take the eazy way out,
it's to hard for them to think about anything abstract
or non mainstream.
ramjet64
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08/23/2007 10:43 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
This story is even older than I originally thought! It is from 1961! It is 46 years old people! The thing was cut open, and never shown inside a rock, this is probably a fake all the way...It is called the Coso Artifact.

Here is a link with the real story, but keep in mind, this is all a hoax or mistake. This is NOT real! This is not even as good as the Loch Ness Monster, and we all know that is probably not real either, but at least there is still a chance with the Loch Ness monster, this has no chance of ever being proved real.

[link to www.talkorigins.org]

Get the truth people before you start spouting off on this site. How hard was it for me to google this and make sure I knew what the story was first? Not hard...

I knew the story, I just thought it was maybe 10 years or older...I guess MUCH older is the truth in this case!
ramjet64
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08/23/2007 11:09 PM
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Re: Haiti UFO video -- FAKE
We could go over all the anomolies, but so far no one has pointed out anything to me that proves this is a fake.
The idea that these trees are all the same does not work, I did it stop motion on my movie editing software, and this theory does not fly either. The palm trees though they look alike are actually different, and even though the seem to line up, you have to change their relative size to make this happen, and then they just don't line up well enough for me to believe that.

The location with the wooden tower like structure in both may be totally wrong as well. Those kinds of towers are watch towers, and not uncommon. I have seen some good animation, and this is very good, but the CGI if it is there, and it probably is, will never be visable in this format. Therefore, it cannot be fully examined and proved to be real or fake.

Now, you say I must believe it is real? No, I never said that either. The people who made this never put their real name on it, and have not stepped forward to provide the original recording for examination. If I shot this kind of video, I would be talking to UFO web sites, TV News, and I would be PROUD of it! Some people might be scared of ridicule, and I understand that, but if you have the genuine article then you have nothing to fear. I hate hoaxers, they are sad pepople. So why is there absolutely no disclosure on this video? Nothing. No report from the source. Nothing. I want the original video file, and I want to know who produced this video. Nothing. I think it is a good hoax...but I hate hoaxes...What if a real one ever did land and someone got a picture? No one would ever believe it. That would really stink, huh? ET lands we take his picture for real, and everyone thinks it's just another hoax...

I am 99.9% sure this is a hoax, or a joke. I will leave .1% up in the air as it were! ;-)

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