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NRA DUPED ON SB 16: Assault weapons bill SB 16 struck down, WORSE: HB 961 REMAINS, DEM tactic to appear to compromise

 
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NRA DUPED ON SB 16: Assault weapons bill SB 16 struck down, WORSE: HB 961 REMAINS, DEM tactic to appear to compromise
Pay attention here

SEE THE SLEIGHT OF HAND HERE????

HB961 IS WORSE THAN THE SB16, SB 16 WAS SACRIFICIAL!!

Alot of VirginiaNs are cheering the SB 16 being struck down and think that it is over!! NOT THIS VIRGINIAN!!

THE ARTICLE BELOW IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG WITH THE SUBMERGED PART TO FOLLOW:

Ongoing response and an alternative to SB 16

At an NRA rally in Richmond later on Monday, both Senator Mark Obenshain and Delegate Todd Gilbert spoke against the gun control bills that are moving forward.

To protest SB 16 specifically, the National Rifle Association had announced over the weekend that they would be distributing 30-round magazines, provided through a partnership with Magpul, at Virginia's capitol building during Monday's hearings.

While SB 16 is effectively dead, a bill nearly identical to it remains on the other side of the General Assembly. As of Jan. 13, House Bill 961 has yet to be referred to a specific committee for any future action.
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NOW SB 16

VA SB16 | 2020 | Regular Session
Virginia Senate Bill 16
VA State Legislature page for SB16
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Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Democrat 1-0)
Status: Introduced on November 18 2019 - 25% progression
Action: 2020-01-13 - Stricken at the request of Patron in Judiciary (9-Y 0-N)
Text: Latest bill text (Prefiled) [HTML]

Summary
Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of assault firearms and certain firearm magazines; penalties. Expands the definition of "assault firearm" and prohibits any person from importing, selling, transferring, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or transporting an assault firearm. A violation is a Class 6 felony. The bill prohibits a dealer from selling, renting, trading, or transferring from his inventory an assault firearm to any person. The bill also prohibits a person from carrying a shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered in a public place; under existing law, this prohibition applies only in certain localities. The bill makes it a Class 1 misdemeanor to import, sell, barter, or transfer any firearm magazine designed to hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition.


HOUSE BILL 961:

Virginia House Bill 961
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Status: Introduced on January 7 2020 - 25% progression
Action: 2020-01-07 - Committee Referral Pending
Text: Latest bill text (Prefiled) [HTML]

Summary
Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of assault firearms, certain firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators; penalties. Expands the definition of "assault firearm" and prohibits any person from importing, selling, transferring, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or transporting an assault firearm. A violation is a Class 6 felony. The bill prohibits a dealer from selling, renting, trading, or transferring from his inventory an assault firearm to any person. The bill also prohibits a person from carrying a shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered in a public place; under existing law, this prohibition applies only in certain localities. The bill makes it a Class 6 felony to import, sell, transfer, manufacture, purchase, possess, or transport large-capacity firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators, all defined in the bill. Any person who legally owns an assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator on July 1, 2020, may retain possession until January 1, 2021. During that time, such person shall (i) render the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator inoperable; (ii) remove the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator from the Commonwealth; (iii) transfer the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator to a person outside the Commonwealth who is not prohibited from possessing it; or (iv) surrender the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine,


WE GOTTA WATCH EM CLOSE

Last Edited by Coastie Patriot on 01/14/2020 02:26 PM
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THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

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They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
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A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
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to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

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Now that’s how you read between the lines!
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Re: NRA DUPED ON SB 16: Assault weapons bill SB 16 struck down, WORSE: HB 961 REMAINS, DEM tactic to appear to compromise
Excellent commentary op

Pay attention here

SEE THE SLEIGHT OF HAND HERE

HB961 IS WORSE THAN THE SB16, SB 16 WAS SACRIFICIAL!!

Alot of VirginiaNs are cheering the SB 16 being struck down and think that it is over!! NOT THIS VIRGINIAN!!

THE ARTICLE BELOW IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG WITH THE SUBMERGED PART TO FOLLOW:

Ongoing response and an alternative to SB 16

At an NRA rally in Richmond later on Monday, both Senator Mark Obenshain and Delegate Todd Gilbert spoke against the gun control bills that are moving forward.

To protest SB 16 specifically, the National Rifle Association had announced over the weekend that they would be distributing 30-round magazines, provided through a partnership with Magpul, at Virginia's capitol building during Monday's hearings.

While SB 16 is effectively dead, a bill nearly identical to it remains on the other side of the General Assembly. As of Jan. 13, House Bill 961 has yet to be referred to a specific committee for any future action.
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NOW SB 16

VA SB16 | 2020 | Regular Session
Virginia Senate Bill 16
VA State Legislature page for SB16
Summary
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Track
Status
Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Democrat 1-0)
Status: Introduced on November 18 2019 - 25% progression
Action: 2020-01-13 - Stricken at the request of Patron in Judiciary (9-Y 0-N)
Text: Latest bill text (Prefiled) [HTML]

Summary
Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of assault firearms and certain firearm magazines; penalties. Expands the definition of "assault firearm" and prohibits any person from importing, selling, transferring, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or transporting an assault firearm. A violation is a Class 6 felony. The bill prohibits a dealer from selling, renting, trading, or transferring from his inventory an assault firearm to any person. The bill also prohibits a person from carrying a shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered in a public place; under existing law, this prohibition applies only in certain localities. The bill makes it a Class 1 misdemeanor to import, sell, barter, or transfer any firearm magazine designed to hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition.


HOUSE BILL 961:

Virginia House Bill 961
VA State Legislature page for HB961
Summary
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Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Democrat 1-0)
Status: Introduced on January 7 2020 - 25% progression
Action: 2020-01-07 - Committee Referral Pending
Text: Latest bill text (Prefiled) [HTML]

Summary
Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of assault firearms, certain firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators; penalties. Expands the definition of "assault firearm" and prohibits any person from importing, selling, transferring, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or transporting an assault firearm. A violation is a Class 6 felony. The bill prohibits a dealer from selling, renting, trading, or transferring from his inventory an assault firearm to any person. The bill also prohibits a person from carrying a shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered in a public place; under existing law, this prohibition applies only in certain localities. The bill makes it a Class 6 felony to import, sell, transfer, manufacture, purchase, possess, or transport large-capacity firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators, all defined in the bill. Any person who legally owns an assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator on July 1, 2020, may retain possession until January 1, 2021. During that time, such person shall (i) render the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator inoperable; (ii) remove the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator from the Commonwealth; (iii) transfer the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator to a person outside the Commonwealth who is not prohibited from possessing it; or (iv) surrender the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine,


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I owe it all to the article listed at the top , when i saw that i was like sneaky bastards!!!

THat was some real close reporting, Real reporting would have made that the headline. Makes me think a patriot there who knew he couldnt make that the hadline and editor approve. They threw out a life line hoping someone would read it!!!
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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I owe it all to the article listed at the top , when i saw that i was like sneaky bastards!!!

THat was some real close reporting, Real reporting would have made that the headline. Makes me think a patriot there who knew he couldnt make that the hadline and editor approve. They threw out a life line hoping someone would read it!!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


Outstanding catch

This should be pinned

Not the propaganda thread that already pinned

Looks like you’re the lifeline

5 stars
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Fuck those motherfuckers, no new gun legislation, period.
Fuck them and everybody else that is in violation of the 2nd.
They're trying to appease bait and switch. Fuck them all.
Tar, feather and hang the legislators.

And Trump still hasn't even said shit on this, fuck him too.
He backs motherfuckers in other countries for optics, how about backing US citizens?
Fuck all government mutherfuckers.
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now calm down Cletus you just got done with 8 years of Obama and the man never banned anything not even you bump stocks.

Trump on the other hand,


epiclol


is the one you have to worry about....
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Alex Jones says they are intentionally trying to force armed conflict. Nancy Pelosi slipped an authorization for the U.N. to deploy troops on U.S. soil to assist with gun confiscations into USMCA at the last minute. If you were wondering why the U.N. in NYC is recruiting DDR officers (Disarmament, Demobilization, & Reintegration ~ aka ~ gun confiscation, neutralization of opposition, reducation camps), this is why. Trump signed NDAA which authorizes use of U.S. military on American soil in domestic policing. They'll deploy VA Natl. Guard & attach U.N. DDR contingents to confiscate guns (they're not bound by any oaths to the U.S. Constitution).

All of this shit is coordinated at every level.
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now calm down Cletus you just got done with 8 years of Obama and the man never banned anything not even you bump stocks.

Trump on the other hand,


epiclol


is the one you have to worry about....
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Exactly.

Obama never said take the guns first then the due process.

Jesus the excuses for Trump are pathetic.

He's worse than Obama by action and words.
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Yup I was reading the comments on that article and it seems a few others caught it as well.hf
They pre-filed it a week ago, that is why they withdrew SB16. HB961 includes registration, transfer, surrender, or felony.
It also makes possession of suppressors, trigger activators, and >10 round magazines illegal, which was not in SB16.
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now calm down Cletus you just got done with 8 years of Obama and the man never banned anything not even you bump stocks.

Trump on the other hand,





is the one you have to worry about....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66348871


WTF does Trump have to do with VA? Article 1 Section 10, sheesh, if you wanna troll, at least do so well, I know the pay isn't great but sheesh. At least try and take dubious pride in your work.
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Similar Bills-

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Alex Jones says they are intentionally trying to force armed conflict. Nancy Pelosi slipped an authorization for the U.N. to deploy troops on U.S. soil to assist with gun confiscations into USMCA at the last minute. If you were wondering why the U.N. in NYC is recruiting DDR officers (Disarmament, Demobilization, & Reintegration ~ aka ~ gun confiscation, neutralization of opposition, reducation camps), this is why. Trump signed NDAA which authorizes use of U.S. military on American soil in domestic policing. They'll deploy VA Natl. Guard & attach U.N. DDR contingents to confiscate guns (they're not bound by any oaths to the U.S. Constitution).

All of this shit is coordinated at every level.
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If this is the case why did he approve USMCA with that clause in it !!! I guess financial gain outweighs the constitution??

Guys maybe vWv isnt so wrong, just because he makes you think or has a different opinion ... thinking more is rarely a bad thing!!!

Differences of opinion leads to ideas and creativity!!!
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Yup I was reading the comments on that article and it seems a few others caught it as well.hf
They pre-filed it a week ago, that is why they withdrew SB16. HB961 includes registration, transfer, surrender, or felony.
It also makes possession of suppressors, trigger activators, and >10 round magazines illegal, which was not in SB16.
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I sent a request to Breitbart making them aware of that when they posted the article about SB 16 being dead!!!

I am seeing too many items pointing to bad juju ahead for us all!!

That USMCA is frightening if TRUE. Tired of these 2500 pg bills submitted hours before committee with no time to read!!!
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Alex Jones says they are intentionally trying to force armed conflict. Nancy Pelosi slipped an authorization for the U.N. to deploy troops on U.S. soil to assist with gun confiscations into USMCA at the last minute. If you were wondering why the U.N. in NYC is recruiting DDR officers (Disarmament, Demobilization, & Reintegration ~ aka ~ gun confiscation, neutralization of opposition, reducation camps), this is why. Trump signed NDAA which authorizes use of U.S. military on American soil in domestic policing. They'll deploy VA Natl. Guard & attach U.N. DDR contingents to confiscate guns (they're not bound by any oaths to the U.S. Constitution).

All of this shit is coordinated at every level.
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Can you tell me what page of the USMCA you found this on- Thanks I am looking it up.
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This site also has all the VA proposed bills.

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check for any similar bills in HB for SB, house bill vs Senate bill

then watch how easy they fall in one house or the other and remain in the one house to still be passed.

I am predicting WV next they will create a buffer at least two states deep around DC!!! va md tn ky wv oh...


Does it ever occur to anyone else maybe sometimes we give them ideas when we write?
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Guys, this is an intentional test. Where is Trump on this? A direct assault on the very document he should be leading the charge to defend... This isn't an anti Trump post.

Rather, be sure and make no mistake, everyone is watching. We stand or we fall. Decide.

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now calm down Cletus you just got done with 8 years of Obama and the man never banned anything not even you bump stocks.

Trump on the other hand,





is the one you have to worry about....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66348871


WTF does Trump have to do with VA? Article 1 Section 10, sheesh, if you wanna troll, at least do so well, I know the pay isn't great but sheesh. At least try and take dubious pride in your work.
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No, sorry. The President should be clearly on the side of the U.S. Constitution, which he took an oath to uphold. No, he cannot strike it down. But his silence speaks volumes. Trust me, this is what a lot of us in the States are saying.

This is a test, and apparently he's not perceptibly against it.
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now calm down Cletus you just got done with 8 years of Obama and the man never banned anything not even you bump stocks.

Trump on the other hand,


epiclol


is the one you have to worry about....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66348871


No, Obama just generated some false flag shootings, so that the States could more easily ban "assault weapons".
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now calm down Cletus you just got done with 8 years of Obama and the man never banned anything not even you bump stocks.

Trump on the other hand,


epiclol


is the one you have to worry about....
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No, Obama just generated some false flag shootings, so that the States could more easily ban "assault weapons".
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Exactly! They're all in on it. Sad to say that Trump is only a con-man working to lull The Right to sleep.
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now calm down Cletus you just got done with 8 years of Obama and the man never banned anything not even you bump stocks.

Trump on the other hand,





is the one you have to worry about....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66348871


WTF does Trump have to do with VA? Article 1 Section 10, sheesh, if you wanna troll, at least do so well, I know the pay isn't great but sheesh. At least try and take dubious pride in your work.
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No, sorry. The President should be clearly on the side of the U.S. Constitution, which he took an oath to uphold. No, he cannot strike it down. But his silence speaks volumes. Trust me, this is what a lot of us in the States are saying.

This is a test, and apparently he's not perceptibly against it.
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As far as I am aware these are Bills, ie not Laws correct?
If I am correct, there is actually nothing to go after aside from a bunch of twits in suits passing motions?
Correct?
SO under the 1st, these twits in suits can sit and pass motions all day long because they are not Law, correct?
Trump interfering in A States Rights kerfuffle would appear rather Big Brother nanny statish? Correct?
Right now, it is all tilting at windmills until the Bills become Laws. Just Querying!
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now calm down Cletus you just got done with 8 years of Obama and the man never banned anything not even you bump stocks.

Trump on the other hand,





is the one you have to worry about....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66348871


WTF does Trump have to do with VA? Article 1 Section 10, sheesh, if you wanna troll, at least do so well, I know the pay isn't great but sheesh. At least try and take dubious pride in your work.
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No, sorry. The President should be clearly on the side of the U.S. Constitution, which he took an oath to uphold. No, he cannot strike it down. But his silence speaks volumes. Trust me, this is what a lot of us in the States are saying.

This is a test, and apparently he's not perceptibly against it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47323002


As far as I am aware these are Bills, ie not Laws correct?
If I am correct, there is actually nothing to go after aside from a bunch of twits in suits passing motions?
Correct?
SO under the 1st, these twits in suits can sit and pass motions all day long because they are not Law, correct?
Trump interfering in A States Rights kerfuffle would appear rather Big Brother nanny statish? Correct?
Right now, it is all tilting at windmills until the Bills become Laws. Just Querying!
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC



Yes lance, yesterday they moved the bills from judiciary to the floor for votes. I think the house still has to do the same ???



I am the OP and this is not a Trump bashing thread, it is a thread to point out deception. That being said GLP is a forum for discussion, expressing of ideas and adult conversation!! IF you think it important you should mention it. Lets not get off topic. Lets research and do all we can to keep out liberties!!!!
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Pay attention here

SEE THE SLEIGHT OF HAND HERE????

HB961 IS WORSE THAN THE SB16, SB 16 WAS SACRIFICIAL!!

Alot of VirginiaNs are cheering the SB 16 being struck down and think that it is over!! NOT THIS VIRGINIAN!!

THE ARTICLE BELOW IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG WITH THE SUBMERGED PART TO FOLLOW:

Ongoing response and an alternative to SB 16

At an NRA rally in Richmond later on Monday, both Senator Mark Obenshain and Delegate Todd Gilbert spoke against the gun control bills that are moving forward.

To protest SB 16 specifically, the National Rifle Association had announced over the weekend that they would be distributing 30-round magazines, provided through a partnership with Magpul, at Virginia's capitol building during Monday's hearings.

While SB 16 is effectively dead, a bill nearly identical to it remains on the other side of the General Assembly. As of Jan. 13, House Bill 961 has yet to be referred to a specific committee for any future action.
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NOW SB 16

VA SB16 | 2020 | Regular Session
Virginia Senate Bill 16
VA State Legislature page for SB16
Summary
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Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Democrat 1-0)
Status: Introduced on November 18 2019 - 25% progression
Action: 2020-01-13 - Stricken at the request of Patron in Judiciary (9-Y 0-N)
Text: Latest bill text (Prefiled) [HTML]

Summary
Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of assault firearms and certain firearm magazines; penalties. Expands the definition of "assault firearm" and prohibits any person from importing, selling, transferring, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or transporting an assault firearm. A violation is a Class 6 felony. The bill prohibits a dealer from selling, renting, trading, or transferring from his inventory an assault firearm to any person. The bill also prohibits a person from carrying a shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered in a public place; under existing law, this prohibition applies only in certain localities. The bill makes it a Class 1 misdemeanor to import, sell, barter, or transfer any firearm magazine designed to hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition.


HOUSE BILL 961:

Virginia House Bill 961
VA State Legislature page for HB961
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Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Democrat 1-0)
Status: Introduced on January 7 2020 - 25% progression
Action: 2020-01-07 - Committee Referral Pending
Text: Latest bill text (Prefiled) [HTML]

Summary
Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of assault firearms, certain firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators; penalties. Expands the definition of "assault firearm" and prohibits any person from importing, selling, transferring, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or transporting an assault firearm. A violation is a Class 6 felony. The bill prohibits a dealer from selling, renting, trading, or transferring from his inventory an assault firearm to any person. The bill also prohibits a person from carrying a shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered in a public place; under existing law, this prohibition applies only in certain localities. The bill makes it a Class 6 felony to import, sell, transfer, manufacture, purchase, possess, or transport large-capacity firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators, all defined in the bill. Any person who legally owns an assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator on July 1, 2020, may retain possession until January 1, 2021. During that time, such person shall (i) render the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator inoperable; (ii) remove the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator from the Commonwealth; (iii) transfer the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator to a person outside the Commonwealth who is not prohibited from possessing it; or (iv) surrender the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine,


WE GOTTA WATCH EM CLOSE
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


Never ever trust a democrat.

democrats are a WMD.
Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running.

Used by the Founders...
Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives”
reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to
its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in
the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by
the children of the citizens
, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all
their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel

Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day...
America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments...
1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year.
2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit.

Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates.

Democrats are a WMD, literally.

Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall.
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Alex Jones says they are intentionally trying to force armed conflict. Nancy Pelosi slipped an authorization for the U.N. to deploy troops on U.S. soil to assist with gun confiscations into USMCA at the last minute. If you were wondering why the U.N. in NYC is recruiting DDR officers (Disarmament, Demobilization, & Reintegration ~ aka ~ gun confiscation, neutralization of opposition, reducation camps), this is why. Trump signed NDAA which authorizes use of U.S. military on American soil in domestic policing. They'll deploy VA Natl. Guard & attach U.N. DDR contingents to confiscate guns (they're not bound by any oaths to the U.S. Constitution).

All of this shit is coordinated at every level.
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Bull shit, you just don't "slip" something in a bill at the last minute without others knowing about it. If that is true about U.N. authorization then both parties are in on it, and Trump will cheerfully sign it.

Fuck all those motherfuckers. They can kiss my ar-15 owning ass and suck my 30 round mag dick. They can all eat shit and die.
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Why won’t the NRA just say they oppose any new gun legislation period.
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Well, I had hopes that things were swinging in the Virginians favor but I had noted they only got rid of 1 bill and there was a total of 3 or 4 I believe they were trying to push through.

Shame Democrats have an incessant need to force their beliefs on others. Lot of blood fixing to be spilled over their arrogance.
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Pay attention here

SEE THE SLEIGHT OF HAND HERE????

HB961 IS WORSE THAN THE SB16, SB 16 WAS SACRIFICIAL!!

Alot of VirginiaNs are cheering the SB 16 being struck down and think that it is over!! NOT THIS VIRGINIAN!!

THE ARTICLE BELOW IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG WITH THE SUBMERGED PART TO FOLLOW:

Ongoing response and an alternative to SB 16

At an NRA rally in Richmond later on Monday, both Senator Mark Obenshain and Delegate Todd Gilbert spoke against the gun control bills that are moving forward.

To protest SB 16 specifically, the National Rifle Association had announced over the weekend that they would be distributing 30-round magazines, provided through a partnership with Magpul, at Virginia's capitol building during Monday's hearings.

While SB 16 is effectively dead, a bill nearly identical to it remains on the other side of the General Assembly. As of Jan. 13, House Bill 961 has yet to be referred to a specific committee for any future action.
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NOW SB 16

VA SB16 | 2020 | Regular Session
Virginia Senate Bill 16
VA State Legislature page for SB16
Summary
Sponsors
Texts
Votes
Research
Comments
Track
Status
Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Democrat 1-0)
Status: Introduced on November 18 2019 - 25% progression
Action: 2020-01-13 - Stricken at the request of Patron in Judiciary (9-Y 0-N)
Text: Latest bill text (Prefiled) [HTML]

Summary
Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of assault firearms and certain firearm magazines; penalties. Expands the definition of "assault firearm" and prohibits any person from importing, selling, transferring, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or transporting an assault firearm. A violation is a Class 6 felony. The bill prohibits a dealer from selling, renting, trading, or transferring from his inventory an assault firearm to any person. The bill also prohibits a person from carrying a shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered in a public place; under existing law, this prohibition applies only in certain localities. The bill makes it a Class 1 misdemeanor to import, sell, barter, or transfer any firearm magazine designed to hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition.


HOUSE BILL 961:

Virginia House Bill 961
VA State Legislature page for HB961
Summary
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Texts
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Status
Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Democrat 1-0)
Status: Introduced on January 7 2020 - 25% progression
Action: 2020-01-07 - Committee Referral Pending
Text: Latest bill text (Prefiled) [HTML]

Summary
Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of assault firearms, certain firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators; penalties. Expands the definition of "assault firearm" and prohibits any person from importing, selling, transferring, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or transporting an assault firearm. A violation is a Class 6 felony. The bill prohibits a dealer from selling, renting, trading, or transferring from his inventory an assault firearm to any person. The bill also prohibits a person from carrying a shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered in a public place; under existing law, this prohibition applies only in certain localities. The bill makes it a Class 6 felony to import, sell, transfer, manufacture, purchase, possess, or transport large-capacity firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators, all defined in the bill. Any person who legally owns an assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator on July 1, 2020, may retain possession until January 1, 2021. During that time, such person shall (i) render the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator inoperable; (ii) remove the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator from the Commonwealth; (iii) transfer the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator to a person outside the Commonwealth who is not prohibited from possessing it; or (iv) surrender the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine,


WE GOTTA WATCH EM CLOSE
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


Un-Constitutional as fuck.

Article I, Section 9, Clause 3. The Constitution prohibits both the federal government (in this clause) and the states (in Article I, Section 10, Clause 1) from passing either bills of attainder or ex post facto laws.
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now calm down Cletus you just got done with 8 years of Obama and the man never banned anything not even you bump stocks.

Trump on the other hand,





is the one you have to worry about....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66348871


WTF does Trump have to do with VA? Article 1 Section 10, sheesh, if you wanna troll, at least do so well, I know the pay isn't great but sheesh. At least try and take dubious pride in your work.
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC


No, sorry. The President should be clearly on the side of the U.S. Constitution, which he took an oath to uphold. No, he cannot strike it down. But his silence speaks volumes. Trust me, this is what a lot of us in the States are saying.

This is a test, and apparently he's not perceptibly against it.
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As far as I am aware these are Bills, ie not Laws correct?
If I am correct, there is actually nothing to go after aside from a bunch of twits in suits passing motions?
Correct?
SO under the 1st, these twits in suits can sit and pass motions all day long because they are not Law, correct?
Trump interfering in A States Rights kerfuffle would appear rather Big Brother nanny statish? Correct?
Right now, it is all tilting at windmills until the Bills become Laws. Just Querying!
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC


I told you he couldn’t strike it down, correct?

I told you we’re saying his silence speaks volumes, correct?

Learn to read. You’re in over your head with me. My God some of you are tiresome.

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