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8/23/2007 10:54 PM
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What do you do as a job and how do you feel about it? |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287462 (OP)
8/23/2007 10:56 PM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
Delivering newspapers is acceptable here too. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287410
8/23/2007 10:59 PM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
define newspaper |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 221853
8/23/2007 11:01 PM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
I did - sorta. I wrote for a newspaper covering a dozen communities. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 265547
8/24/2007 1:34 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
I have a question for anyone in the MSM:
Why do you continue to ignore the mountains of evidence that contradict the government's ridiculous 9/11 story? |
| Jos
User ID: 33726
8/24/2007 1:41 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
I think right now we all are. |
| kits
User ID: 261878
8/24/2007 1:46 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
People don't seem to understand what television is. We're a business, we sell things. Everything we air is for the soul purpose of attracting customers - sales of advertisements. If we don't entertain the majority of our viewers, if we are saying things which are controversial and making our viewers feel indifferent toward us, then they'll just switch the channel. Nobody rents airtime on static channel three for their ads for a reason, and nobody wants to associate their company and their product with a station which makes itself look 'anti-American,' 'communist,' or whatever other term you wish to choose.
So it comes down to two primary things:
TV stations would go broke.
Most of the reporters don't know about these things anyhow. They believe everything's okay because that's what they want to believe - and they're enraged by anyone who claims otherwise.
When a Christian station airs a show about how ridiculous it is to believe that in their God, maybe then you'll see some news reports eating away at TPTB.
At least that's how it is with local stations.
You know just as well as I do that people don't want to hear how bad things really are, and people aren't going to be willing to watch a rant about the evils and corruption any more than the masses are willing to come here and read up on the subject.
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| TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 287510
8/24/2007 1:56 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
If mainstream media would grow a pair, your ratings would be better. That is what brings in the ad dollars.
What we're fed up with, what I have regularly emailed the networks about, is that we are fed up with being fed pablum and entertainment as a substitute for news.
Last night, CBS nightly news ignored all the financial collapses, ignored that GW was in Canada trying to form the North American Union, ignored the proposed Amero, ignored that we are being sold out, ignored that we haven't been told or offered the opportunity to vote on these critical matters, ignored anything that had to do with what is really happening. Maybe you are as clueless as most of the sheople, but I doubt that.
In the place of these topics, they had a big segment on sex after 70. Good lord, what planet do you people live on ?
You want real news ? Here it is. Click this thread and check out the video there. This is what is going on.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
This is what you people should be covering. If you don't, I won't watch you. I get much better news right here, at Drudge, at Infowars, and others.
As to 9/11, it is the most important story you will ever cover. Our government did it to us ! If you would grow a pair , investigate, and spend a lot of time on this story, you can be guaranteed your ratings will go through the roof, and the ad dollars will follow. |
| kits
User ID: 261878
8/24/2007 1:59 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
Think of it on a basis of statistics. You (we) are the minority. If your intended audience is redirected from the vast majority to the vast minority, then you will lose money, period.
TV doesn't care if you watch. TV cares if everyone BUT you watches. That's where the money is.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 265547
8/24/2007 2:09 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
People don't seem to understand what television is. We're a business, we sell things. Everything we air is for the soul purpose of attracting customers - sales of advertisements. If we don't entertain the majority of our viewers, if we are saying things which are controversial and making our viewers feel indifferent toward us, then they'll just switch the channel. Nobody rents airtime on static channel three for their ads for a reason, and nobody wants to associate their company and their product with a station which makes itself look 'anti-American,' 'communist,' or whatever other term you wish to choose. Quoting: kits
So news is about nothing but another form of commerce?
And 'anti-American' is everything that doesn't follow the official party line?
Look what happened when the entire media regurgitated BushCo lies about Iraq. Don't you feel the slightest responsibility to the truth?
What if Woodward and Bernstein only thought about what people wanted to hear or what would sell newspapers? |
| kits
User ID: 261878
8/24/2007 2:14 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
I cannot stress enough, by the way, that the media doesn't even know whats going on, not most of them. They're sheep slaving away, just like everyone else. Sometimes we get calls about this or that happening, the assignment desk blows those calls off and considers the callers 'psychotic.' If your lead for them on these subjects is soft, then they'll consider it not newsworthy. If it's hard, they'll consider you nuts. They don't have the background information, they don't have time to confirm every lead that comes their way, and as far as they're concerned, a conspiracy lead is both loaded and nearly certain to lead nowhere of interest.
They don't have the information they need to report on the things you want to hear about. Even if you ignore the ratings issue, media isn't going to run with a story that doesn't seem to make sense, and doesn't sound credible.
You have to prove yourself to the media if you want them to listen - just like with all of the other sheep.
I'll give you an example: Tonight we ran with a story of many residents downtown complaining about illegal/unconstitutional/sometimes random search and seizures being orchestrated by our PD. This was newsworthy on its own...but the reporter nor did any of the other news-staff understand the implications. We reported on some of that NWO/martial law stuff in the works, and didn't even realize it.
If you want them to go with the big stories, then you basically have to write it for them, all evidence cited, implications made clear, and above all, put it in a way which will speak to the viewers - a way which DEMANDS high ratings. Otherwise, there's nothing that they or anyone else can do to get this stuff out there...
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| TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 287510
8/24/2007 2:17 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
The media has an obligation to tell the people the truth.
Most of the people I know depend on the internet for their news. If the media doesn't get that, it's in trouble.
As it is, most, meaning the majority, don't believe most of what the media says, and wonder why you aren't reporting the real news.
It's the media who is brainwashed into thinking all we want is milk toast and good times stories.
If you really think that, explain why the top shows in prime time are things like Jericho, The Unit, CSI, 24.
The media is living in a little dream world, telling us they have the stories everyone is talking about. Who is this everyone ? It isn't anyone I know. In fact, no one I know is talking about the stories you all tell us that everyone is talking about.
The media needs to wake up. Put your scripts down.
Realize that you are depriving us what freedom of the press is about. You have an obligation to the people of this country. So do your owners. |
| kits
User ID: 261878
8/24/2007 2:30 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
The media is not obligated to do anything. These are private corporations, television channels. As long as they don't lie and cause problems through that lie, they've met all 'obligations.' The media's obligations are to their share holders, to their CEOs, and to the legal system.
As far as those tv shows go: They rate high because it's entertaining to people. How many people come to GLP, look into this stuff, for the entertainment value? Most people do NOT want to hear a story on how they're a slave to the elite, and have never ever EVER known what freedom is. Most people don't want to know that their government is killing them, doesn't serve them at all, and places less value in their 'constituents' lives than they place on their next paycheck, or on their ego in general. People don't want to know that we're heading towards a situation of unthinkable suffering and chaos and that there's nothing that can be done about it aside from a Civil War. The media isn't going to run a live-shot anytime soon of a NEWS-READER (they read what's written more so than they investigate..) standing infront of a elementary school saying "In just one or two more generations, estimates are that children will be shocked and baffled when hearing that the policeman once served the public, and be everyones best friend, protecting you while you're awake, and protecting you while you're asleep - because what the police are today, and what they will become tomorrow, is all eight-year-old Jimmy Dashel will have ever known."
The only way people get on with their pathetic and meaningless lives webbed in lies and deception is that they have no idea of what things really are like. Ignorance is bliss, and the public would rather watch something that will make them feel jolly-good about their powerful nation and 'democratic' society than learn about just how horrible things have become.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 265547
8/24/2007 2:31 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
If you want them to go with the big stories, then you basically have to write it for them, all evidence cited, implications made clear, and above all, put it in a way which will speak to the viewers. Otherwise, there's nothing that they or anyone else can do to get this stuff out there... Quoting: kits
I'll never believe that the 60 Minutes, 20/20s, Frontlines, etc., don't know what's really going on in this country. I've seen them produce many stories that I'd never heard of.
When over a third of Americans are certain that 9/11 was an inside job and the MSM remains completely silent for six years, something is seriously wrong.
And what's worse, by ignoring one of the most important stories in U.S. history, you're slowly destroying every ounce of credibility you ever had. No one will ever believe the MSM doesn't purposefully cover-up government wrongdoing. They'll also continue to believe former CIA chief William Colby's assertion that the media is completely controlled. |
| kits
User ID: 261878
8/24/2007 2:38 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
Look. Small television stations are local news stations. If they are broadcasting a segment about national or world news, you can bet that they got that information from the headquarters.
If we run with a story that's not local news, it came from Fox News Headquarters in NYC. Otherwise, our information comes from sites such a AP, other local news sites, people calling the assignment desk with tips, and lastly, from the contacts of the news anchors and reporters, who generally don't know anything about this NWO stuff anyhow.
If it's so important to you for them to run with these stories, then do what I said. Call their Assignment desks, give them the story, and make sure you prove yourself.
Otherwise, they really honestly don't know as much as you and I do on these subjects, and will never know as much - because nobody told them, and proved it.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 265547
8/24/2007 2:46 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
If it's so important to you for them to run with these stories, then do what I said. Call their Assignment desks, give them the story, and make sure you prove yourself.
Otherwise, they really honestly don't know as much as you and I do on these subjects, and will never know as much - because nobody told them, and proved it. Quoting: kits
Maybe if they heard it from an affiliate reporter, it would carry more weight.
Or is your job and/or fear of ridicule more important than the future of this country? |
| kits
User ID: 261878
8/24/2007 2:54 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
Yeah yeah. How about you guys call the assignment desks, give them information and evidence, so that 'affiliate reporters' with knowledge on these subjects appear to have leads which are newsworthy, and interesting to the viewers?
I have pushed stories to go on air about this stuff, every once in a while the story gets a short segment. Usually though, no-matter how you look at it and write it, the story is either too soft or too hard to be declared newsworthy.
Just for your information, the Ass Desk decides what stories are looked into. They are the ones who tell the reporters where to go and what to investigate, then the producers decide which of those pieces go on-air. Reporters don't have control over that...
But yes, I do bite my tongue quite a bit to keep myself from seeming like a tin-hat, or 'anti-American.' I know my revealing anything to them will not serve the cause, and will only make things difficult for myself. I'd say your criticism to that respect is unjustified. Don't try to make me out to be the bad guy when YOU won't even call your local station up and push the stories yourself. At least I actually have pushed these stories onto the airwaves. What have YOU done?
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 265547
8/24/2007 3:07 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
I know all about Assignment Desks. I'm a former news cameraman myself and used to cover for those guys when they were on break. What I also know is that the desk would be delighted if more reporters took the initiative to generate stories they felt strong about. You and I both know that a 9/11 conspiracy lead generated by John Q. Public won't be worth the paper it's printed on.
Carl Cameron at Fox network came up with a great investigative series. We all know what happened to that. |
| TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 287510
8/24/2007 3:14 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
The stats for this site should speak loudly as to the fact that millions do want the real story. I can't remember how many times I've sent networks 9/11 information, stories, links, videos, names, and plans going back to the 70's to pull it off.
It certainly isn't your fault that Murdoch damn near has a monopoly on major news, both TV, and print.
This monopoly shuts down any chance of getting more than a script from any outlet he owns.
Kits, maybe one day you'll make that opportunity for yourself that puts you in a position to tell it like it is.
The public really is hungry for it. Once the public gets their dander up, their appetite for it will be unquenchable.
I would rather see Dan Rather and Walter Cronkite
spewing and angry, after they investigated some cover up, than almost anyone in major news media today. |
| Turtles Know 
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User ID: 286176
8/24/2007 3:21 AM
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I guess my question is what is considered mainsteam media and what is considered working? Sounds weird, but it is an honest question.
Does working mean you get a paycheck? Does mainsteam mean print and in how may areas?
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| Lady Wolf
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8/24/2007 3:30 AM
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 This thread deserves a pin! What say you mods??
Remember...Real Truth Is Self Evident;)
Can't PM? Feel free to e'mail me at ldy_wolf@sbcglobal.net |
| kits
User ID: 261878
8/24/2007 3:56 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
287510: You're right that giving your local stations calls and presenting decent arguments wouldn't be very beneficial, at least seemingly and at first, but if your local station keeps hearing from you, if you continue to prove yourself, then the situation could go from them thinking you're annoying and psychotic, to them thinking you're onto something but the story is too unconventional to run with, and possibly eventually to them actually running the storying in part, and maybe someday, as a whole.
Think of it in terms of religion: Christians for example go around the world and hammer their ideology into the heads of the non-religious over a period of time and eventually are successful in conversion. They knock on doors, they run their own media, they preach to passerbys, etc. It's a matter of conditioning. Believing, accepting, and even just considering is a matter of conditioning. Keep in mind that they don't jump directly into the nasty parts of their religion and tell people that if they don't convert, they'll burn in hell for eternity and all that good stuff. Missionaries preach the lighter side, the 'happy' ideas ('I get to go to Heaven!!'), then and only then will they get into the harder elements. In other words, you have to keep the story fairly conventional, and not allow it to go deep - becoming radical. Keep it short, cited, and medium-grade at best.
Someone might not believe you today, but if you keep at it, keep throwing the stories their way, keep citing and backing up your claims, you'll get a good response, in time.
Effort and patience is what's needed. Remember a short while ago when the Browns were flipping out, believing the Feds were about to raid them and were harassing them? People kept calling the police station in their area, wouldn't let up, and eventually the police chose to go investigate.
The tin-hats convinced the PD to go check it out, convinced them that maybe there's something to what the listeners were hearing on the radio.
You can't expect your television stations to listen to you and report on these things if you don't do anything to convince them to, but if you work on them, keep pressing the issue and keep showing how real and how big this is, then eventually you *will* convince them to look into it. Volume of calls and number of unique callers saying the same thing equals necessity to investigate - if it's interesting.
You can convert the media just like you can convert your neighbor. But just like converting your American flag toting neighbor, it will take a lot of effort - a lot of deprogramming and re-conditioning.
I'll give an example of a way to present one of these stories in a way that they'll respond to quickly: The government is building many FEMA detainment camps with our tax dollars. What are they for, and just how much are they costing us? Cite source. Give nearest camp location and describe in short. Offer a pic of the camp (taken by you, of course) for reference.
You could make a segment off of that. It doesn't sound nutty, it actually would be interesting to even the non-conspiracy folk, and you really actually could get a decent reaction, so long as you cite your sources and truly prove your claims.
I would suggest such a piece for our You Paid For It segment, but we don't have any FEMA camps in our area to my knowledge, nor have I ever seen enough information, such as addresses of said camps, which would be needed for an investigative report.
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| no-one important
User ID: 287588
8/24/2007 4:11 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
Kits, your posts are intelligent, informative and important.
Thanks & Kudos to you, my friend.
I personally, have been made a mockery of by the press.
My dilemma was a tradgedy which hit my family, and was disproportionately blown out of context by the press.
We were the one's that had to cope with the stares and whispers which followed the 50% accurate reporting. |
| kits
User ID: 261878
8/24/2007 4:27 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
Thanks 287588, I appreciate it, and feel for you. I know we tend to screw over people with our stories pretty often, twisting them to seem like someone was a monster when they actually weren't. Sorta like today a mother accidentally left her seven month old child in her car and it died from the heat, a Pediatrician none the less. That's horrible I agree, and I admit that it might be a case of sympathy for the devil, as it were, but we smeared that mother so hard. Not only is she going to have to deal with knowing that she killed her baby, but now because of us her career is ruined, and everyone she knows is going to look down on her for the rest of her life. She earned herself a real-life Monster classification which will never just go away, as a result of our selective reporting. Her life has been completely ruined with a lot of help by us for sure. The 'worst' part though, is that we got word of what the circumstances actually were, and why she was negligible certainly, how the mistake was made did make sense, and the talk of the station was sympathy toward that mother...but we never reported the circumstances...we just smeared her. Better for the ratings I guess.
By the way, I didn't take part in the smearing, and have never taken part in anything of the sort.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287591
8/24/2007 4:29 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
i used to work for mainstream "media", you'd be surprised at how much $$$ reps from one particular kosher nation wanted to give me. Serious, anyways..media is nothing but a propaganda machine anymore.
Hell I'm glad to be out of that game. |
| NAbhi Iddo
User ID: 275840
8/24/2007 4:33 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
MAINSTREAM MEDIA & PERSIA??  |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287594
8/24/2007 4:39 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
thanks for your input kits ..
its clearer now but still sad. |
| kits
User ID: 261878
8/24/2007 4:57 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
It is sad, I know. I do wish that the majority knew what's going on, what reality really looks like, but even if they were hearing of it I can't help but to think that a small minority of that 'informed' majority would comprehend it. I don't think the day will ever come for that though. The mainstream media will report what is currently reported because that's the status-quo, what's expected, and what's desired by so many - especially the corporations who pay us to air their ads. At least there are reporters out there, entire networks, which cover these things in depth. That's our news, and the real news. Shows like Alex Jones bring us a piece of reality, though it may be exclusive to those already in the know, at least we have that.
We have our news, and the majority have their news. This makes me wonder though: Why are so many concerned with what mainstream reports? If mainstream told it like it was, talked about what was most important in reality, things wouldn't change. Sure, maybe there'd be more people posting and more people listening, but in the end we'd be in the same situation as before. There is no way out of this reality besides the death of something - nothing less than either our suicide to end the reality for ourselves, or Civil War to attempt to end it for everyone. No guarantees, but at least there are options, even if they are far-fetched. The media reporting reality still wouldn't bring even Civil War though as people are soft and content, fearful and always ready to deny even the truth.
Knowledge isn't always power, especially when most of those in the know are cowards.
But yeah, there's nothing more sad than the fact that the blind can't see, and there's simply nothing that can be done to change that. They'll never know, even if they do, they'll never fully comprehend, and even if that's possible, the media will never give the blind the tap on the shoulder they need to at least listen so as to be guided through the darkness.
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| Emperor Kenton
User ID: 284815
8/24/2007 5:04 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
Know what? The mainstream news is as boring as as a slab of sheetrock.
The media-meisters ought to fix that, maybe with a controversy or two.
Nobody reads the newspapers, it's a miracle that they still exist.
Golly gee, Newsies, pep it up a notch or two. |
| Emperor Kenton
User ID: 284815
8/24/2007 5:15 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
When I switch from channel to channel for the 6:00 news, those cardboard cutout newscasters remind me of a beanbag-toss.
Pretty bad when the only animate figure is the weather guy.
Good grief, how are the ratings anyway?
I dive quickly for the Internet to stay sane, you know, with controversy and conspiracy theory. |
| Emperor Kenton
User ID: 284815
8/24/2007 5:19 AM | | Re: Anyone here working for the Mainstream Media? | Quote |
40 years ago you could turn on the TV and watch 10,000 Hippies throwing beer cans at the cops.
Now THAT was ACTION news. |
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