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ZetaTalk - on Puppet Masters and the Avoidance of **COMPLETE** Economic Collapse

 
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UPDATE: 01/01/2009 Notice the original posting date of 8/24/2007. I challenge ANYONE to dispute the ACCURACY of the Zetas forecasts.

ZetaMax


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There are frightening reports that the global financial system is on the brink of collapse. Is it possible that the Puppet Master could lose control?

SOZT
As those aware of how the banking systems works are aware, what causes stress are one of two things. One, a run on the banks were cash is taken out in the extreme. Two, bankruptcies where those owning the bank money cannot pay. Three, when credit extended to the bank is demanded, in repayment, beyond what the bank can sustain from its reserves. When a central bank loans out funds to a bank, the bank is allowed to loan THAT money out several times over to the public. Now the bank is happily making interest on loans it has made. These loans are not a stress on the bank, as the transactions are not in cash, certainly not in gold or silver, so it is all just paper transactions with the bank backing the loan amount. In addition to any central bank credit extended to the bank, savings come in from the general public, and this likewise can be loaned out many times over. Where central banks do not generally demand repayment of the credit they have extended, this can occur to punish an errant bank or when the central bank itself has limited reserves, as if it is founded in a small country. But a run by the public into savings can distress a bank, which then must borrow from other banks or go begging to a central bank, and if unable to secure cash, must close its doors. Banks likewise have expenses, salaries and operating expenses, so if those they have given loans to are unable to pay, they are distressed. This too can cause a bank to collapse. If the Puppet Master so chose, he could keep all the banks operating forever despite massive bankruptcies and cashing out of savings accounts. The question then is raised as to how far the Puppet Master will go in this regard. If he sees the inevitable on the horizon, and feels that the notes he holds will put him in good stead in the Aftertime, something he can demand repayment for in some manner or other, he may let weak banks take a dive. As this is in the hands of man, we cannot predict an exact outcome!
EOZT

 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 


Do you think the drop in the dollar and the world markets ... will continue and become more serious?

SOZT
As we have explained, the Puppet Masters - there are more than one and for the US it is the House of Roshchild and to a miner degree the House of Rockefeller - are not interested in bank failures. They are not interested in the value of corporations or crashing. They are not interested in bankruptcies galore. This is to a great extent a confidence game which we have explained in the Zetatalk called Paper Promise. If confidence is lost, their assets diminish. Now in a flat-out, all-round crash worldwide, they end up at the same position - at the top of the pile with everybody else beneath. They are not worried about not becoming wealthy, or not becoming the Puppet Masters, as no shake down will put them out of that position. But it means an adjustment and a worry, a lot of late nights, a lot of hard work to make sure that their assets pull through. You can imagine the notes they have, in other words IOUs, from everybody that would become worthless if people declare bankruptcy. Land just sitting there with no ownership, banks belly-up unable to carry though and collect mortgages or collect properties and re-sell them. It becomes chaotic and happens quickly and in a domino effect. This is something that they don't want, so they have been maintaining the markets.

It is no secret that the DOW has been maintained by what is called Plunge Protection Team which was authorised well ahead of the Bush administration by Reagan and allows virtually insider trading to be conducted to maintain the price of stock. They have military industrial corporations that trade with the government extensively, for their essential corporate market base, who will spend their own corporate portfolios in the stock market, buying up worthless stock. The loss that they take in that portfolio is compensated by the price of what they sell to the government. This has been proven and demonstrated, with the price of a jet plane, for instance, doubling and tripling in just a year or two so that people say, Well, what was the cost increase? Where is it? The department of defense pays it. So this is the taxpayer supporting the DOW. Another way they manipulate this is to be sure that nobody sells until a buyer is lined up. They force the markets to withhold until they have a buyer lined up so that supply and demand doesn't affect the price. So things are going to move along as they have been, a steady decrease in the dollar, but no huge collapse with all that that implies.

EOZT

We've seen volatility in the market return to more stable levels, and the media is already moving away from "crisis" style reporting.

THE PUPPETMASTER(S) HAS ACTED - and the economic stability is returning. But "stability" really only means "functioning" - gas stations will still sell gas, grocery stores will still have produce, the post office will continue delivering mail. For individuals, major economic catastrophes await for many, for some, major opportunities.

Zetas have forecasted these trends all along, and their foresight and wisdom in this area is REMARKABLE. If the debunkers accuse ZetaTalk "fans" of needlessly "worrying" about a pole shift, they fail to notice the one thing that ZetaTalk followers DON'T worry about.

A **TOTAL** economic COLLAPSE.

zright
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Great thread ZetaMax!!

You go Max!!!!
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If your mythical fantasy planet was actually incoming, we would of seen financial collapse in a heartbeat, ya dumbasses.
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I agree that there is high intelligence behind zetatalk.
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lmaolmao:

I predict serious disinformation plunging in the house of *D-bonkers* within the coming months.

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Great thread ZetaMax!!

You go Max!!!!
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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Oh please Puppet Master help us. We bow before your massive amounts of obcene money and we know that the
Money Beast is alive in you!!

Please make everything right oh blessed, all powerfull Puppet master. We kiss your feet and throw dollar bills in your path ...

worshipworshipworshipPuppet Master
worshipworship
worship

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NOT!!

The Puppet Master will be taken along with all the other fallen angels.

Good Riddance!!!
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SOZT
why can't *I* be like Nancy?

iwish
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Great post, ZetaMax. Keep up the good work!
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I assume the OZT stands for of Zeta Talk. But.. what do the S and E stand for. and what is OP? Who is ZetaMax?
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I assume the OZT stands for of Zeta Talk. But.. what do the S and E stand for. and what is OP? Who is ZetaMax?
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Start of ZetaTalk, End of Zeta talk
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Start of Bullshit, End of bullshit.
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I don't believe in channeling or Zetas, but Nancy'ws analyses often make a great deal of sense.
This post makes sense. You can attack the messenger but the message itself is harder to argue with.
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There are frightening reports that the global financial system is on the brink of collapse. Is it possible that the Puppet Master could lose control?

SOZT
As those aware of how the banking systems works are aware, what causes stress are one of two things. One, a run on the banks were cash is taken out in the extreme. Two, bankruptcies where those owning the bank money cannot pay. Three, when credit extended to the bank is demanded, in repayment, beyond what the bank can sustain from its reserves. When a central bank loans out funds to a bank, the bank is allowed to loan THAT money out several times over to the public. Now the bank is happily making interest on loans it has made. These loans are not a stress on the bank, as the transactions are not in cash, certainly not in gold or silver, so it is all just paper transactions with the bank backing the loan amount. In addition to any central bank credit extended to the bank, savings come in from the general public, and this likewise can be loaned out many times over. Where central banks do not generally demand repayment of the credit they have extended, this can occur to punish an errant bank or when the central bank itself has limited reserves, as if it is founded in a small country. But a run by the public into savings can distress a bank, which then must borrow from other banks or go begging to a central bank, and if unable to secure cash, must close its doors. Banks likewise have expenses, salaries and operating expenses, so if those they have given loans to are unable to pay, they are distressed. This too can cause a bank to collapse. If the Puppet Master so chose, he could keep all the banks operating forever despite massive bankruptcies and cashing out of savings accounts. The question then is raised as to how far the Puppet Master will go in this regard. If he sees the inevitable on the horizon, and feels that the notes he holds will put him in good stead in the Aftertime, something he can demand repayment for in some manner or other, he may let weak banks take a dive. As this is in the hands of man, we cannot predict an exact outcome!
EOZT

 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 


Do you think the drop in the dollar and the world markets ... will continue and become more serious?

SOZT
As we have explained, the Puppet Masters - there are more than one and for the US it is the House of Roshchild and to a miner degree the House of Rockefeller - are not interested in bank failures. They are not interested in the value of corporations or crashing. They are not interested in bankruptcies galore. This is to a great extent a confidence game which we have explained in the Zetatalk called Paper Promise. If confidence is lost, their assets diminish. Now in a flat-out, all-round crash worldwide, they end up at the same position - at the top of the pile with everybody else beneath. They are not worried about not becoming wealthy, or not becoming the Puppet Masters, as no shake down will put them out of that position. But it means an adjustment and a worry, a lot of late nights, a lot of hard work to make sure that their assets pull through. You can imagine the notes they have, in other words IOUs, from everybody that would become worthless if people declare bankruptcy. Land just sitting there with no ownership, banks belly-up unable to carry though and collect mortgages or collect properties and re-sell them. It becomes chaotic and happens quickly and in a domino effect. This is something that they don't want, so they have been maintaining the markets.

It is no secret that the DOW has been maintained by what is called Plunge Protection Team which was authorised well ahead of the Bush administration by Reagan and allows virtually insider trading to be conducted to maintain the price of stock. They have military industrial corporations that trade with the government extensively, for their essential corporate market base, who will spend their own corporate portfolios in the stock market, buying up worthless stock. The loss that they take in that portfolio is compensated by the price of what they sell to the government. This has been proven and demonstrated, with the price of a jet plane, for instance, doubling and tripling in just a year or two so that people say, Well, what was the cost increase? Where is it? The department of defense pays it. So this is the taxpayer supporting the DOW. Another way they manipulate this is to be sure that nobody sells until a buyer is lined up. They force the markets to withhold until they have a buyer lined up so that supply and demand doesn't affect the price. So things are going to move along as they have been, a steady decrease in the dollar, but no huge collapse with all that that implies.

EOZT

We've seen volatility in the market return to more stable levels, and the media is already moving away from "crisis" style reporting.

THE PUPPETMASTER(S) HAS ACTED - and the economic stability is returning. But "stability" really only means "functioning" - gas stations will still sell gas, grocery stores will still have produce, the post office will continue delivering mail. For individuals, major economic catastrophes await for many, for some, major opportunities.

Zetas have forecasted these trends all along, and their foresight and wisdom in this area is REMARKABLE. If the debunkers accuse ZetaTalk "fans" of needlessly "worrying" about a pole shift, they fail to notice the one thing that ZetaTalk followers DON'T worry about.

An economic COLLAPSE.

:zright:
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***



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this part was good.

[quote;ZT]
hey have military industrial corporations that trade with the government extensively, for their essential corporate market base, who will spend their own corporate portfolios in the stock market, buying up worthless stock. The loss that they take in that portfolio is compensated by the price of what they sell to the government. This has been proven and demonstrated, with the price of a jet plane, for instance, doubling and tripling in just a year or two so that people say, Well, what was the cost increase? Where is it? The department of defense pays it. So this is the taxpayer supporting the DOW.


sounds plausible.
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I'm cashing in my lifes saving for garden tools and seeds and everything else I might need for survival but I don't give a rosey rat's ass about what the Puppet Master might think, do or say. He will be gone when the final judgement comes.
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More than 3 years ago Nancy was ranting about runaway
inflation. Now she's jumped on the bandwagon of the
current doom on GLP hoping she can get some of the
attention she's lost to it.

Years will go by and you zidiots will still be talking about
the economic collapse that's just about to happen, like your
Incredibly Invisible Pink Fairy Planet that Never Shows Up.
 Quoting: DrPostman



More than 3 years ago Nancy was ranting about runaway
inflation.


Seems to me that is PRECISELY what we've had. (Of course YOU are mistaking "runaway" with "hyper-inflation" - and she did NOT ever say *that* would happen)

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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

ZetaMax
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The 'Amero' Currency
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this "Puppet Master" that Nancy talks about sure sounds like Alan Greenspan. This consolidation of power was likely to take place during the chain of events that was the Depression/WW2/Holocaust.
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this "Puppet Master" that Nancy talks about sure sounds like Alan Greenspan. This consolidation of power was likely to take place during the chain of events that was the Depression/WW2/Holocaust.
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You have to go back further - to the time of Napoleon.
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Mayer Amschel Rothschild (February 23, 1744 – September 19, 1812) was the founder of the Rothschild family banking empire that would become one of the most successful business families in history. In 2005, he was ranked 7th on the Forbes magazine list of the The Twenty Most Influential Businessmen Of All Time. The business magazine referred to him as a "founding father of international finance".
 [link to www.infoplease.com] 

Mayer Rothschild is quoted as saying:

Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes her laws.
 [link to www.brainyquote.com] 

According to the Zeta's, today's Puppet Master is a direct descendant of this individual - but that this branch of the family tree has "gone off the books" and is completely and utterly UNTRACEABLE.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live
written Apr 7, 2007 on the live GodlikeProduction live chat.

I would expect the Puppet Master, who I expect is Jacob Rothschild, to be heavily Service-to-Self as the family's focus for centuries has been world enslavement. However, there has been a certain altruistic element of late, such as straightening out the 2006 elections and an interest in informing the populace about Earth Changes. Is this a "politics makes strange bedfellows" situation or does the Puppet Master have a good streak? John F. Kennedy also came from one of the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati, according to certain reports, but he was about the most good-hearted president of the last fifty years.

SOZT
Nancy is asked at least daily who the Puppet Master is, and replies in each case that this branch of the Rothchild family is not public, and any individual you can identify is not thus the Puppet Master. This is a family trust, and some family members have assets, like an allowance, to do as they wish with. Their spending money is small change, in other words! The true line in charge of the family assets went off the books decades ago, and could never be traced, nor are they even in the public records, anywhere. This is not a Service-to-Self bunch, and do not start wars for benefit. There is devil worship, satanic, in the Catholic church, in certain royalty lines, in cults, in some political parties, and there have been members of the Rothchild family who dabbled in these black arts likewise. The Bush family is heavily into these attempts to gain a leg up in human affairs. As we have stated, this type of Call to those in the Service-to-Self never results in a reward to the humans, only an inclination of the human soul toward Service-to-Self. The Puppet Master is more inclined to be Service-to-Other than undecided, and many close to him in the line to replace him as master are highly Service-to-Other.
EOZT
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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service to others is altruistic and good right?

id quite like to know what the zetas have to say about the different factions of the illuminati and their agendas. doesnt that guy fulford say that the rothchilds are the good guys and the rockefellers are the bad guys?

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Nancy is asked at least daily who the Puppet Master is, and replies in each case that this branch of the Rothchild family is not public, and any individual you can identify is not thus the Puppet Master. This is a family trust, and some family members have assets, like an allowance, to do as they wish with. Their spending money is small change, in other words! The true line in charge of the family assets went off the books decades ago, and could never be traced, nor are they even in the public records, anywhere. This is not a Service-to-Self bunch, and do not start wars for benefit. There is devil worship, satanic, in the Catholic church, in certain royalty lines, in cults, in some political parties, and there have been members of the Rothchild family who dabbled in these black arts likewise. The Bush family is heavily into these attempts to gain a leg up in human affairs. As we have stated, this type of Call to those in the Service-to-Self never results in a reward to the humans, only an inclination of the human soul toward Service-to-Self. The Puppet Master is more inclined to be Service-to-Other than undecided, and many close to him in the line to replace him as master are highly Service-to-Other.
EOZT
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I encourage you all to address your questions @ 6:30pm EST. during live ZetaTalk session.

"When scientists cannot explain something on THEIR terms, they will pretend to reduce the phenomenon to something else that they CAN explain, thus creating the illusion that they have given a plausible explanation of some ancient mystery. Don't be duped by their debunking.

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Hi Nancy,

still on this stupid shit? When will you ever learn?

Bullshit vote, as usual. bsflag
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Looks like Nacy will bury the Nancy Lieder personality and continue her shit with the Zetamax sockpuppet...
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More than 3 years ago Nancy was ranting about runaway
inflation. Now she's jumped on the bandwagon of the
current doom on GLP hoping she can get some of the
attention she's lost to it.

Years will go by and you zidiots will still be talking about
the economic collapse that's just about to happen, like your
Incredibly Invisible Pink Fairy Planet that Never Shows Up.
 Quoting: DrPostman



Don't mind this bloke, not a debunker type. He's in violent denial and guards his materialistic comfort, but don't be surprised if he has a change of heart when the earth-changes are undeniable.

"When scientists cannot explain something on THEIR terms, they will pretend to reduce the phenomenon to something else that they CAN explain, thus creating the illusion that they have given a plausible explanation of some ancient mystery. Don't be duped by their debunking.

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Looks like Nacy will bury the Nancy Lieder personality and continue her shit with the Zetamax sockpuppet...
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Again, just because ZetaMax has a law degree, and also happens to believe ZetaTalk doesn't mean he's Nancy Lieder. The Globalists didn't exactly have the best cards in their hands when selecting *d-bonkers* as cooperation is important, and any Lone Ranger will prove this. They don't always stand a chance in debate so they end up bullying , and accusing people of being "cult members, "delusional", "sock puppets", and even Nancy herself.

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Looks like Nacy will bury the Nancy Lieder personality and continue her shit with the Zetamax sockpuppet...
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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Applying this to all positive zetatalk threads. I hope you don't mind Zetamax.

"If the debunkers support the use of obscene depravity, how do they justify it?

Is it alright to behave in a morally desolute manner, in order to stifle a message they find unappealing?

Or is the argument that they are morally jutified to sink to the lowest depths necessary when trying to stifle a message as long as it's for the good of others?

How do they get past the hypocricy of their own position?

Are they the crusaders and this their virtual crusade? Where the end justifies the means?

They attack the person, they attack the message, they attack people who come to this thread out of simple curiosity or interest.

They come off more or less like religious fanatics rather than the scentifically grounded reasonable men that they keep assuring us that they are.

Frankly I just don't see it.

I'd like to be able to read this stuff without all of the sociopathic behaviour coming from the debunking crowd. If they think that turning every thread that comes from Nancy Lieder into a cesspit is the proper approach to use in order to refute her message then these are not the people who I would want policing my interests.

Why are they policing these threads anyway?

Is it their job? Is it their moral obligation to shout down and besmirtch every idea that threatens their paradigm?

The arrogance of the debunker is beyond question.

Their purpose is crystal clear.

The logic behind their purpose escapes all reason.

Why must those with the curiosity and courage to look beyond the narrow scope of our officially sanctioned reality always have to search and struggle against a current of antagonism and ignorance?

Debunkers are satisfied with memorizing facts and data and repeating the logic of their betters.

While science is good, it is only a tool and the scientist must always recognize that what we know is always changing as our perspective increases and the scope of our understading increases.

There are others for whom the tedium of collating data is not enough, and understanding is the brass ring for which we strive.

How can those for whom the material world is all that exists possibly understand that?


To them, all we ask is that we be left to our own devices. In peace.

It's so little to ask."

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