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AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURS

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8/25/2007 8:02 PM
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HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS?

Was surfing around and bumped into this?????????

This is the 3rd time i have tried to post this but it has not taken it.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

American Airlines
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- * Two American Airlines [[aircraft]] were [[hijack]]ed and crashed during the [[September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack]]: [[American Airlines flight 77|Flight 77]] (a [[Boeing 757]]) and [[American Airlines Flight 11|Flight 11]] (a [[Boeing 767]]). + * Two American Airlines [[aircraft]] were [[hijack]]ed and crashed during the [[September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack]]: [[American Airlines flight 77|Flight 77]] (a [[Boeing 757]]) and [[American Airlines Flight 11|Flight 11]] (a [[Boeing 767]]). Although these flights were daily departures before and a month after September 11, 2001. Neither flight 11 nor 77 were scheduled on September 11, 2001. The records kept by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (www.bts.gov/gis/) do not list either flight that day.


wtf
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288378 (OP)
8/25/2007 8:09 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

The WIKISCANNER found it and was posted today.......

American Airlines - "9/11 Didn't Happen"
by Six Degrees of Aaron
Sat Aug 25, 2007 at 06:38:35 AM PDT
WikiScanner discovered that American Airlines changed their Wikipedia entry to state that Flights 11 and 77 never flew on 9/11.

Original entry was:

Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: American Airlines Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and American Airlines Flight 11 (a Boeing 767).
New entry is:

Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and Flight 11 (a Boeing 767). Although these flights were daily departures before and a month after September 11, 2001. Neither flight 11 nor 77 were scheduled on September 11, 2001. The records kept by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (www.bts.gov/gis/) do not list either flight that day.
Six Degrees of Aaron's diary :: ::
A Google search of the IP address that made the change - 144.9.8.21 - is located at American Airlines.

Why the change American airlines? Did the flights actually operate or did we just imagine all of that?

I find this sort of sicken.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 279669
8/25/2007 8:11 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

bump
Redheaded Stepchild
User ID: 288227
8/25/2007 8:12 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

There was a time when you could access the BTS website and see the schedules. At that time, the two AA flights were not listed as having flown. I tried to find that information a while back, and it's no longer available. Wish to hell I'd taken a screen shot, or SOMETHING.
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FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
8/25/2007 8:39 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

Wish to hell I'd taken a screen shot, or SOMETHING.
 Quoting: Redheaded Stepchild

Didn't you post that on one of the holograms threads?
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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User ID: 257208
8/25/2007 8:42 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

Although these flights were daily departures before and a month after September 11, 2001. Neither flight 11 nor 77 were scheduled on September 11, 2001. The records kept by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (www.bts.gov/gis/) do not list either flight that day.

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288393
8/25/2007 8:44 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

You don't know?

The planes were faked. No planes hit the WTC towers or the pentagon. They were digital graphics. They used a technique called Chroma-key. Look up "fake plane" on youtube.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 286275
8/25/2007 8:48 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

Ok smart ass...what happened to my two friends who were on Flight 77? Both were flight attendants - husband and wife.
FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
8/25/2007 8:49 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

Ok smart ass...what happened to my two friends who were on Flight 77? Both were flight attendants - husband and wife.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 286275

Shill alert!!!!
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 265547
8/25/2007 8:58 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

One of those 9/11 flights from Boston's Logan airport had two different departure gates (I think it was Flight 11.) A year later, two different memorial services were held at each of the gates -- one by American Airlines and one by the victim's relatives.

There's so much crazy stuff and so many anomalies about 9/11, it's amazing that ANYONE believes the government's version.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288404
8/25/2007 9:00 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

Wasn't it reported that the United flight landed in
Cleveland?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288407
8/25/2007 9:01 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

spock
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288404
8/25/2007 9:08 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

"""Ok smart ass...what happened to my two friends who were on Flight 77? Both were flight attendants - husband and wife."""

No ones saying it didnt happen.It seems the OP is saying
American Airlines or some one at their offices has
changed the facts.

"""Google search of the IP address that made the change - 144.9.8.21 - is located at American Airlines."""
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288424
8/25/2007 9:35 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

THIS GETS EVEN FREAKIER

Evidence that Flights AA 11 and AA 77
Did Not Exist on September 11, 2001


According to the official story of what happened on September 11, 2001, four commercial jetliners were hijacked by Arab terrorists, two of them were flown into the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center and a third was flown into the Pentagon. This article presents evidence obtained from US-government-supplied records whose implication is that this cannot be true.

The four commerical jetliners allegedly departed from the airports, and with the flight numbers, shown below:


Airport location Name Flight no.
Newark, NJ Newark Liberty International UA 93
Boston, MA Logan International UA 175
Boston, MA Logan International AA 11
Washington, DC Dulles International AA 77

The U.S. Bureau of Transportation Statistics has a website at [link to www.bts.gov] The Bureau is reported to log every domestic flight scheduled from a US airport and conducted by a carrier accounting for more than 1% of domestic air traffic, and the database is required to include all scheduled flights, whether actually completed or not, unless the flight is cancelled more than seven days prior to the departure date.

The Bureau has a page on "Departure Statistics" at


[link to www.bts.gov]

Let us see what the original BTS webpages have to say. Click on the links below to see copies (saved in November 2003) of the "Departure Statistics" pages for September 11, 2001, for United Airlines flights and for American Airlines flights at the relevant airports:


UA: Newark, NJ — Newark International
UA: Boston, MA — Logan International
AA: Boston, MA — Logan International
AA: Washington, DC — Washington Dulles International

From which we obtain:


Date Flight no. Destination Scheduled
departure Tail no. Actual
departure
Sept. 11 UA 93 San Francisco 8:00 N591UA 8:01
Sept. 11 UA 175 Los Angeles 8:00 N612UA 7:58
Sept. 11 AA 11 No record exists
Sept. 11 AA 77 No record exists

Thus for September 11, 2001, and for Flights UA 93 and UA 175, the destination, tail number and departure time are the same as that given above. But for Flights AA 11 and AA 77 the situation is totally different — these flights are not scheduled at all. The implication is that Flights AA 11 and AA 77 did not exist on September 11, 2001.



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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288424
8/25/2007 9:37 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

Further evidence for this can be found by considering the Airline On-Time Statistics.

Go to this page on the BTS website:


[link to www.bts.gov]
and select "United Airlines", flight number "0093" and the date range September 10th to 11th, 2001. A page appears which gives data for UA 93 on September 10th, but above this is a note:


On September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight #11 and #77 and United Airlines #93 and #175 were hijacked by terrorists. Therefore, these flights are not included in the on-time summary statistics.
But this note was added sometime after November 2003. Before that the same query (but for September 11, 2001, only) produced the page shown here.

In the original BTS database similar queries returned the following pages for UA 93, AA 11 and AA 77. Thus the summary on-time statistics (over any specified time period) for the four flight numbers differ in the current version of the BTS database from the version which existed until sometime in 2004 in this respect: In the original version that summary included data for UA 93 and UA 175 on September 11, 2001, whereas data on AA 11 and AA 77 is explicitly stated to be non-existent. But in the current version, data for all four flights on September 11, 2001, is excluded. This change was made presumably to disguise the fact that Flights AA 11 and AA 77 did not exist on September 11, 2001.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 226992
8/25/2007 9:40 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

um... if anyone of you has really honestly been searching 9/11, you should have come across this first in your research

Along with the contradictory passenger list (which were only media published , and not released by the airlines)

I'm not saying there were no planes, but its undeniable to the observer that all of the 9/11 2nd Tower hits are CGI
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288409
8/25/2007 9:40 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

I went onto the AA site, customer service, and mailed them a piece of my mind on this issue.

You should too.

Let them know that the 'net community is watching. Maybe in 50 years they can fool, but not just yet.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288425
8/25/2007 9:43 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

the funniest thing about it is, that if you try to change it to the old version, it is reversed to the new edited version that AA put up...WTF?!
NaciremaDream
User ID: 226992
8/25/2007 9:45 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

the only possible un altered shots are the ones where you see 'something' hit the towers....

Compare the flight paths on the different videos, its impossible they all were real

I apologize for the video posting, but decide yourself

[link to www.youtube.com]

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288418
8/25/2007 9:50 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

You don't know?

The planes were faked. No planes hit the WTC towers or the pentagon. They were digital graphics. They used a technique called Chroma-key. Look up "fake plane" on youtube.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 288393


Look up immature, gullible, and idiot.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288425
8/25/2007 9:51 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

ah it's back up
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 226992
8/25/2007 9:53 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

I dont think the evidence of video fakery means that there were 'no-planes' ... there were definitly planes in NYC on that day cause they have been spotted on the videos, as well as eyewitness accounts.

However, all the live witnesses of a 'Commercial Jetliner 767' vanishing into a steel building were delivered by none other than FOX and CNN Producers !!!!

here they are, [link to www.youtube.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 226992
8/25/2007 9:55 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

By 'people seeing a plane' I mean the white plane seen flying in at least 8 videos ...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 269529
8/25/2007 10:04 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

I was going to post two pics for comparison, and I tried to find a photo of the airplanes that hit the towers, but strangely had no luck. Anyway, this image from your wikipedia link shows an AA jet that does not resemble the planes I saw hit the towers, neither on the day it happened, or in any video I have seen since.(don't know if I embedded te image correctly)

[image] [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 269529
8/25/2007 10:05 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

I didn't embed the image correctly, oh well. Go look at it yourself. It doesn't look the same as the dark colored planes that hit the towers
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 269529
8/25/2007 10:07 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

And remember the video of the lady screaming, "That was not an American Airlines, That was not an American Airlines!!!"?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288426
8/25/2007 10:11 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

I'm so SICK and tired of you "people"(agnet provocetuer) that would post this and use WKIKPEDIA as your main source. DO YOU F"N AGENTS REALLY THINK WE ARE THAT STUPID.
Its pretty much been PROVEN that WIKI PEDIA CAN BE ALTERED BY ANYBODY. So from now on I think this WORD-WIKIPEDIA should be banned. If this is supposed to be some legit source of alternative news source for entertainment purposes of course.

ANY BODY WHO USES WIKIPEDIA AS THEIR ONLY SOURCE should be BANNED.
I view anybody that uses this lie filled website-wikipedia as a source for anything AS A GOVERNMENT DISINFO AGENT and a TERRORIST

by the way just because they tell you we're "stupid and will believe anything" DOESNT MEAN IT TRUE.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288441
8/25/2007 10:34 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

I'm so SICK and tired of you "people"(agnet provocetuer) that would post this and use WKIKPEDIA as your main source. DO YOU F"N AGENTS REALLY THINK WE ARE THAT STUPID.
Its pretty much been PROVEN that WIKI PEDIA CAN BE ALTERED BY ANYBODY. So from now on I think this WORD-WIKIPEDIA should be banned. If this is supposed to be some legit source of alternative news source for entertainment purposes of course.

ANY BODY WHO USES WIKIPEDIA AS THEIR ONLY SOURCE should be BANNED.
I view anybody that uses this lie filled website-wikipedia as a source for anything AS A GOVERNMENT DISINFO AGENT and a TERRORIST

by the way just because they tell you we're "stupid and will believe anything" DOESNT MEAN IT TRUE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 288426


A Google search of the IP address that made the change - 144.9.8.21 - is located at American Airlines.HMMM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 282519
8/25/2007 10:44 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

I'm so SICK and tired of you "people"(agnet provocetuer) that would post this and use WKIKPEDIA as your main source. DO YOU F"N AGENTS REALLY THINK WE ARE THAT STUPID.
Its pretty much been PROVEN that WIKI PEDIA CAN BE ALTERED BY ANYBODY. So from now on I think this WORD-WIKIPEDIA should be banned. If this is supposed to be some legit source of alternative news source for entertainment purposes of course.

ANY BODY WHO USES WIKIPEDIA AS THEIR ONLY SOURCE should be BANNED.
I view anybody that uses this lie filled website-wikipedia as a source for anything AS A GOVERNMENT DISINFO AGENT and a TERRORIST

by the way just because they tell you we're "stupid and will believe anything" DOESNT MEAN IT TRUE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 288426


so you're saying the government has agents and terrorists out there who are telling people the government did 9/11?

you're an idiot and need to get your facts straight.
2XSecretAgent
User ID: 270257
8/25/2007 10:53 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

There was a thread on this earlier and I posted the explanation... let me go find it.

BTW - this came from the Daily KOS blog.
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
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IDW
User ID: 272356
8/25/2007 11:06 PM
Re: AA DENIES FLIGHTS 11 AND 77 FLEW OR WERE SCHEDULED ON 911-BOARD OF TRANS CONCURSQuote

The second plane that crashed into the WTC complex was a military 737. It wasn't even the same kind of plane it was supposed to be, it had no windows,no airline insignia and it had military type pods attached to its fuselage. I'm suprized this fact hasnt been brought to light.

Photographs exist of a quality that proves the second plane was niether a passenger plane nor a Boeing 767...I have a VCR recording of that monrings news that has an ABC newcaster announcing flight 77 had landed safely in clevland ,ohio.
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