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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 287889 United Kingdom 08/26/2007 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If Ratzinger's involvement with the Hitler Youth and his stonewalling of the pedophile priests scandal aren't enough to disqualify him from Imagine there's no heaven, It's easy if you try, No hell below us, Above us only sky... -- “Imagine” by John Lennon Marx was wrong. Religion isn’t the “opium of the masses.” Its effects are never that benign. No, religion is a shackle clasped to the mind of man, keeping him from utilizing the one thing that lifts him above the primordial swamp of fear and superstition -- his inquiring mind. The appointment of the new Pope, Joseph Ratzinger, guarantees that that mental shackle will be cinched up a notch or two, and the papal caravan that’s winding back to the Dark Ages will steadily gain in momentum. Wherever we look, the institutions that protect secular democracy are being uprooted from their moorings and tossed on the slagheap. A right-wing ideologue like Pope Benedict XVI just puts the finishing touches on a global system that’s already dominated by Islamic fanatics, Jewish settler-extremists and Christian fundamentalists all brandishing the same cudgel of intolerance and all eager to force “infidels” to conform to their twisted doctrine. Ratzinger is a particularly aggressive form of this modern day sarcoma. His inflexible views should merge seamlessly with the chauvinism of Bush, Sharon and al Zarqawi. During his tenure at the Vatican he personally spearheaded the effort to elevate the Nazi-collaborating Pious XII to sainthood and led the charge to publicly humiliate candidates (like John Kerry) whose views on abortion and birth control were not consistent with his own (by threatening to bar them from the sacraments). He also “publicly praised the fascist movement in the Church known as Opus Dei and supported the canonization of Josemaria Escriva, the founder of Opus Dei, an open fascist who served in the government of Spain’s dictator Franco, and who publicly praised Hitler.” (quote from Rabbi Michael Lerner) Ratzinger’s critics have dubbed him “God’s rottweiler,” a sobriquet that captures his combative and polarizing style. He’s lived up to that title by taking the most stridently conservative positions on nearly every social issue. He summarized the women’s liberation movement by saying that women should “follow the roles inscribed by her biology,” a comment that suggests women that should accept their traditional function as domesticated breeding machines. It’s the same as saying that, “A woman’s place is in the home.” Not much changes in Rome in 2000 years. On homosexuality, Ratzinger’s views are even more odious. He is quoted as saying that gays are inherently disposed “to intrinsic moral evil” and that their rights can be “legitimately limited.” “Intrinsic moral evil”? What unbelievable gall. This is the type of statement we would expect from a gay bashing, white supremacist, not the Pope. No wonder America’s right-wing punditocracy is all a twitter over his appointment; they know they’ve got a friend in Rome who shares their same worldview. (And, by the way, it was an appointment. Despite the universal belief that some form of democratic process took place, the reality is that “John Paul appointed all but 2 of the men who elected the new pope” (al Jazeera). That’s as close to a sure thing as an Ohio optical scanner) Ratzinger, however, has been much more guarded in his opinions about pedophile priests. Perhaps, that has something to do with the various cover-ups that were arranged under his authority, like evacuating the serial criminal Cardinal Law from the Boston diocese. Ratzinger was apparently involved in arranging a sinecure for Law in Rome to save the Boston Cardinal from facing felony charges at home. In another story recently run by Reuters, “New Pope shelved sex abuse claim,” Alistair Bell shows that Ratzinger was directly involved in “deliberately shelving a probe into [sex abuse] claims for 6 years.” The allegations were filed with Ratzinger’s office at the Vatican, and claim that nine former members of the Legion of Christ were sexually abused by the order’s founder Marcial Maciel. By now we all know the drill. Once the claims are filed, the church elders go into lockdown-mode and hide behind a wall of denial. What a joke. The same characters that feel free to wag their fingers at homosexuals and scold struggling parishioners about the sinfulness of birth control, sweep their own criminal activities under the Vatican doormat. The hypocrisy would make a Pharisee wince. Ratzinger’s intolerance stretches well beyond homosexuals and women. In 1997 he said that Europeans were attracted to Buddhism for its “autoerotic spirituality” that offers “transcendence without imposing concrete obligations.” He has been equally dismissive of Hinduism saying that it offers “false hope” and condemns its adherents to a “morally cruel” concept of reincarnation that resembles “a continuous circle of hell.” Similarly, Ratzinger laid out his belief that Catholicism is superior to other forms of Christianity in his theological treatise “Dominus Jesus” (Jesus is Lord”). The document angered many Protestants by its declaration that the real message of Christ, “subsists in the Catholic Church, governed by the Successor of Peter and by the bishops in communion with him.” Skeptical Protestants took this to mean that the Catholic Church did not consider their churches as true. As the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (which was originally called the Office of the Inquisition) Ratzinger led the crusade to silence or remove dissenters, visionaries and progressives. The office served as the papal “thought police”, rooting out the liberals and bringing them into line with Catholic doctrine. Ratzinger’s aptitude for this new task won him the appellation “Cardinal Enforcer”, the high priest of Catholic orthodoxy. In just a few short years he managed to stamp out “liberation theology” (the fusing of Christianity with activism), crushing the aspirations of desperately impoverished people in their struggle for social justice. To his credit, Ratzinger was a strong critic of the war in Iraq saying that the invasion “had no moral justification” and that the concept of “preventive war does not appear in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.” Nevertheless, we can only guess what his feelings may be about the broad based, national liberation movement (“the insurgency”) that has sprouted up in reaction to the illegal occupation of Iraq. Also, how will the new Pope regard the nascent resistance movement in Haiti, where the democratically elected Aristide was removed in a coup organized by the United States? Judging by Ratzinger’s efforts to crush Latin American liberation theology, we can expect that the Pope will condemn these indigenous movements aimed at reclaiming their country through force of arms. Ratzinger won’t be delivering any “fatwas” from Rome, nor has the concept of “jihad” caught on in Vatican City. Instead, we can expect the plaintive appeals for “peace and justice” accompanied by tacit support to the powers that be. Traditional Church doctrine offers no relief for the struggles and suffering of the common man, just the “pie-in-the-sky” promise of an easier life in the netherworld. That won’t change under Ratzinger. [link to www.dissidentvoice.org] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 287889 United Kingdom 08/26/2007 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If Ratzinger's involvement with the Hitler Youth and his stonewalling of the pedophile priests scandal aren't enough to disqualify him from Photos of the Concordat between the Vatican and the Nazis Cardinal Secretary of State, Eugenio Pacelli (later to become Pope Pius XII) signs the Concordat between Nazi Germany and the Vatican at a formal ceremony in Rome on 20 July 1933. Nazi Vice-Chancellor Franz von Papen sits at the left, Pacelli in the middle, and the Rudolf Buttmann sits at the right. The Concordat effectively legitimized Hitler and the Nazi government to the eyes of Catholicism, Christianity, and the world. [link to nobeliefs.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 287889 United Kingdom 08/26/2007 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If Ratzinger's involvement with the Hitler Youth and his stonewalling of the pedophile priests scandal aren't enough to disqualify him from Many church goers don't believe that the Catholic church has been infiltrated by the fascist masons and are bringing about it's downfall with the pedo priests etc. What i didn't know was the connection with Hitler, seeing the priests and high ranking officials giving nazi salutes in the pics above shocked me. The false prophet sits on the throne of St Peter and is planning to decieve the world via the new one world religion of the new age, watch that space. literally. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 288723 United States 08/26/2007 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If Ratzinger's involvement with the Hitler Youth and his stonewalling of the pedophile priests scandal aren't enough to disqualify him from the charismatic movement is also involved in this stuff.. Quoting Rick Joyner (so called Prophet in the charismatic movement) quote from a talk by Rick Joyner: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...First, let’s read his account of that visit and about him meeting a Knight of Malta and hearing of their interest to knight him. "I was in Berlin with a man who is considered one of the foremost authorities on Nazi Germany, Colonel Eugene Byrd, who was the commandant of the Spandau prison, which housed all the war criminals after the war. And he’s the one who wrote the book, The Loneliest Man In The World, which was the memoirs of Rudolf Hess, who was Hitler’s number two man. And, Colonel Byrd had just taken myself and Paul Cain and a friend of ours on the most incredible tour of Berlin that day. And he had the greatest, I think, still has the greatest insight into what happened spiritually there. And, you know we went to Hitler’s bunker and we went all over the place and he just gave us a personal tour. (Joyner tells about Colonel Byrd being on Sixty Minutes.) And he gave Paul and I the same tour . . . It was one of the most fascinating days I have ever had in my life. And, uh, we were eating dinner (with Colonel Byrd), and I was saying and we’re talking all this stuff, and I said, ‘You ever heard of these Knights of Malta?’ And he said, ‘Well, I am one.’ And he pulls out his credentials. And he said, ‘You know, they still exist,’ and I knew they still existed ‘cause I had met a few around, but they are hardly known here, but they are known in Europe. And he said, ‘As matter of fact, this one knight, who is called a Knight Commander, has recommended you to be knighted and he’s looking for you now.’ I talked to him . . . They had been reading our journals and stuff like that and head of the order had been baptized in the Holy Spirit and wanted to see them become a spiritual force just like they had been a natural force . . . Colonel Byrd tells me this one guy, he was an Austrian Baron. He said, ‘He is looking for you. He’s already recommended you to be knighted.’" (Audio by Rick Joyner Ministries, no date on tape.) ...It’s overwhelming to listen as Rick Joyner tells the story of how he met the Austrian Baron that had just come from Kurt Waldheim’s office to seek him out and conduct the knighting ceremony. Let’s read some detail of that... "I’m sitting in the lobby (Nuremberg, Germany) with Bobby Conner and a few other people there and this guy comes walking in the lobby of the hotel who was an interesting looking guy. And Reed, who was Paul Cain’s assistant, was standing behind me. And he said, ‘Hey, there’s Newman Peyton.’ And this guy was Baron Newman Peyton, who Colonel Byrd had told me was looking for me. I said, ‘Reed, do you know that man.’ He said, ‘Oh, yeah, we met him years ago.’ And he came over, walked over to me, and said he had been looking to meet with me. And I stopped him right away. I said, ‘Bobby, give me a readout on this guy.’ And this guy’s going, ‘What’s a readout?’ (Laughter.) And Bobby goes, ‘Sir, when you came in I just saw something, I saw that you had just come from the office of a man named Kurt Waldheim . . .’ And his eyes got real big ’cause he had just come from his (Kurt Waldheim) office. And then he (Bobby Conner) said, ‘I saw you or I saw him opening this briefcase and giving you something out of it.’ And Bobby described the briefcase. And his eyes got real big then. He said, ‘This is incredible!’ He (Baron Peyton) said, ‘That is the only briefcase like that in the world. I had it custom made for Kurt Waldheim.’ And it was a weird thing Bobby had described." (Morning Star Ministries, Rick Joyner audio, no date given.) It’s extremely important to notice two things in this description by Rick Joyner. Upon this man Baron Newman Peyton entering the hotel lobby, Rick Joyner asked one of his companions to give him a "readout" on this man. A "readout" is another term for what they call a prophecy or better described as "fortune telling." These men are deep into sorcery as becomes clear in hearing this entire tape. Also, the man that Baron Newman Peyton had just visited and apparently represented in his approach to Rick Joyner is a notorious individual. Kurt Waldheim is the recently retired President of Austria. He was also an officer in the Nazi army and "has been barred from entering the United States since 1987 as a suspected war criminal." (The Anti-Defamation League, 1999, A.T.L.) Kurt Waldheim was also recently knighted by the Pope, sparking the protest of many Jewish groups. Many believe he is guilty of atrocities against the Jewish people as well as British prisoners of war. The New Republic magazine stated that "the knighting (of Kurt Waldheim) also shows that the hatred of Jews is still no impediment to the esteem of the church (Catholic). Some say it was Waldheim’s only qualification." (The New Republic, September 5, 1994, V211N10, p. 50.). |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 473656 United Kingdom 07/30/2008 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If Ratzinger's involvement with the Hitler Youth and his stonewalling of the pedophile priests scandal aren't enough to disqualify him from Photos of the Concordat between the Vatican and the Nazis Quoting: Anonymous Coward 287889Cardinal Secretary of State, Eugenio Pacelli (later to become Pope Pius XII) signs the Concordat between Nazi Germany and the Vatican at a formal ceremony in Rome on 20 July 1933. Nazi Vice-Chancellor Franz von Papen sits at the left, Pacelli in the middle, and the Rudolf Buttmann sits at the right. The Concordat effectively legitimized Hitler and the Nazi government to the eyes of Catholicism, Christianity, and the world. [link to nobeliefs.com] Those photos certainly opened my eyes!!! |
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