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| a (OP) User ID: 237715 08/28/2007 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, even the people who hate jews are jews. Quoting: Elijahhah! u must be jokin zionism = ideology (not a race, not a religious issue) christian zionists, political zionists, economical zionists (nwo- illuminati) jews = national or religious identity 1 - khazars = ashkenazi jews = 85 & of world jews 2 - spanish & french jews (morano) 3 - the oriental jews (from morroco to kashmir) 4 - the black african israelites |
| Mr. Predictor Mod Emeritus User ID: 287257 08/28/2007 04:17 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sometimes I wonder if the op is on to something the anti-jew threads sound so retarded ![]() In 2012 the Fandango Rangers prevented 23,653 attacks on the American people. 10% Internal Threats 20% International Terrorists 15% Obama zombies 30% Extraterrestrial 15% Extradimensional |
| a (OP) User ID: 237715 08/28/2007 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Henri Wajnblum, former president of the Union of Progressive Jews in Belgium: It is certainly true that we have seen more incidents of anti-Semitic violence in the recent past: graffiti, arson attacks and the like, which are indeed worrying. But it is wrong to talk about a new wave of anti-Semitism gripping Europe. What we are seeing is mounting hostility towards Israel - particularly among Arab immigrants who feel solidarity with the Palestinians. It is Israeli policy in the Middle East which is fuelling this to a large extent, and in that sense, the government of Ariel Sharon itself must take a share of the responsibility. The idea that we are seeing a new wave of anti-Semitism is in part stirred up by those Jewish communities in Europe who ally themselves closely with Israel, but also the Sharon government. Mr Sharon wants more Jews in Israel, he wants to gain the demographic advantage. He is, in part at least, exploiting fears of anti-Semitism to persuade Europe's Jews to emigrate. [link to news.bbc.co.uk] |
| a (OP) User ID: 237715 08/28/2007 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yaron Ezrahi, professor of political science at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem: The right-wing in Israel describes every criticism of the country as a form of anti-Semitism. It is very convenient for the present government - which is the most right-wing in Israel's history and headed by a prime minister who has not taken the smallest initiative in the direction of a diplomatic effort in the peace process - to blame everything on anti-Semitism. Any attempt to make the current government and its very questionable policies invincible to legitimate criticism should be wholly rejected Yaron Ezrahi This way, they try to write off any criticism of their own policies. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has a long record in defining Israeli critics as disloyal. Any attempt to make the current government and its very questionable policies invincible to legitimate criticism should be wholly rejected. When Yithzak Rabin was leading the peace process, there were extremely positive attitudes in Europe. It was very rare during that period to hear anti-Semitic voices. [link to news.bbc.co.uk] |
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| a (OP) User ID: 237715 08/28/2007 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anneke Mouthaan, one of the founders of the Dutch group Another Jewish Voice: Until comparatively recently, Europe felt so guilty about what happened to the Jews during World War II that they were completely unable to raise any objections to what Israel was doing in the Middle East. This taboo is gradually being broken as a new generation grows up. The latest EU poll shows this to be this case. I see it as a positive development that people finally feel able to voice their concerns, and something that should have happened years ago. Many European Jews feel very uncomfortable with Israeli activity - not least because it's counterproductive to achieving peace for Israel, which is what we all ultimately want, and to a certain extent because it is fuelling Muslim hostility towards Jews in Europe. However, many also worry about speaking out in public against Israel, because they believe they would be seen as treacherous. This is something that we still need to overcome - we have to make clear that it is not anti-Jew, anti-Semitic, to express reservations about what Israel is doing. I don't think we can talk about anti-Semitism creeping back into Europe. This is a notion Israel has come up with in order to dismiss any criticism of its policies. It is nothing but propaganda. That's not to say Europe is prejudice free - the continent has simply found new targets. Last century it was the Jews, this time around it's immigrants. |
| a (OP) User ID: 237715 08/28/2007 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they helped Hitler put their own bretheren in Camps, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 289863and are behind all the Anti Semeitic activity-its all part of their (Sob)"feel sorry for us" baloney Nazi Support of Zionism -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, recognized that anti-Semitism would further his cause, the creation of a separate state for Jews. To solve the Jewish Question, he maintained “we must, above all, make it an international political issue.”[1]Herzl wrote that Zionism offered the world a welcome “final solution of the Jewish question.”[2]In his “Diaries”, page 19, Herzl stated “Anti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies.” 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the NazisZionism was supported by the German SS and Gestapo.[3] [4] [5] [6] Hitler himself personally supported Zionism.[7] [8] During the 1930’s, in cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some 40 camps throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. As late as 1942 Zionists operated at least one of these officially authorized “Kibbutz” training camps[9] over which flew the blue and white banner which would one day be adopted as the national flag of “Israel”.[10] The Transfer Agreement (which promoted the emigration of German Jews to Palestine) implemented in 1933 and abandoned at the beginning of WWII is an important example of the cooperation between Hitler’s Germany and international Zionism. [11] Through this agreement, Hitler’s Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930’s to support Jewish development in Palestine and further the Zionist goals. Hitler and the Zionists had a common goal: to create a world Jewish Ghetto as a solution to the Jewish Question. The Transfer AgreementThe Zionist so-called “World Jewish Congress” declared war on the country of Germany,[12] [13] knowing that it would affect their Jewish brothers residing in that country who would be left without protection. When others tried to help them escape to other countries, the Zionist movement took actions which caused those countries to lock their doors to Jewish immigration (read more in the books, “Perfidy” and “Min Hametzer”). As a result of the Zionist influence five ships of Jewish refugees from Germany arriving in the United States were turned back to the gas chambers. The fundamental aim of the Zionist movement has been not to save Jewish lives but to create a “Jewish state” in Palestine. On December 7, 1938, Ben Gurion, the first head of the Zionist ‘state of Israel’ declared “If I knew it was possible to save all the children in Germany by taking them to England, and only half of the children by taking them to Eretz Israel, I would choose the second solution. For we must take into account not only the lives of these children but also the history of the people of Israel.”[14] On August 31, 1949, Ben Gurion stated: “Although we have realized our dream of creating a Jewish State, we are only at the beginning. There are still only 900,000 Jews in Israel, whereas the majority of the Jewish people still remains abroad. Our future task is to bring all the Jews to Israel.” Of the two and a half million Jews seeking refuge from the Nazis between 1935 and 1943, less than 9% went to settle in Palestine. The vast majority, 75%, went to the Soviet Union. In the mid-70’s, more people emigrated out of ‘Israel’ than came in. The only surges of immigration to the Zionist state have occurred during anti-Semitic threats and persecution in foreign countries.[15] It follows that for the Zionist state to achieve its goal of a Jewish world ghetto anti-Semitism must be promoted and encouraged, and as we have seen, by acts of violence if necessary. “To attain its practical objectives, Zionism hopes it will be able to collaborate with a government that is fundamentally hostile to the Jews”.[16] The use of anti-Semitism as a tool to coerce immigration to the Zionist state continues to the present day: Prime Minister Sharon has stated that anti-Semitism is on the rise and that the only hope for the safety of Jews is to move to Israel under the protection of the Zionist state. “The best solution to anti-Semitism is immigration to Israel. It is the only place on Earth where Jews can live as Jews," he said.[17] Those who continue to call the so-called “state of Israel” the “Jewish State” are not only promoting Zionism which is contrary to the beliefs of true Judaism, but also endorsing the promotion of worldwide anti-Semitism. In doing so they are endangering the lives of traditional Jews and denying their civil liberties and human rights. When the British foreign secretary, Arthur Balfour (sponsor of the 1905 Aliens Act to restrict Jewish immigration to the UK), wanted the British government to commit itself to a Jewish homeland in Palestine, his declaration was delayed - not by anti-Semites but by leading figures in the British Jewish community. They included a Jewish member of the cabinet who called Balfour's pro-Zionism "anti-Semitic in result". In contrast, a great statesman like Secretary of State Colin Powell, a supporter of traditional Judaism, has the courage to separate Judaism from Zionism and to acknowledge that speaking out against the actions of the Zionist state is not “anti-Semitism”. We call upon our leaders in Washington to disassociate the actions of the Zionist state from traditional Judaism by no longer referring to “Israel” as the “Jewish State” but as “the Zionist State” and to speak out against the Zionist actions which promote anti-Semitism. [link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com] |
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