***FLIGHT 93 "EXPLODED"!!! -Official Norad Tapes*** | |
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Agent Fescado User ID: 164710 United States 08/30/2007 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [clip] Moments later Cheney spoke to Bush for the third time. The Secret Service had told Cheney that another aircraft was rapidly approaching Washington, D.C. The combat air patrol had been scrambled to patrol the area. We have a decision to make, Cheney told the president: Should we give the pilots an order authorizing them to shoot down civilian aircraft that could be used to conduct further attacks in Washington? Cheney told Bush that he supported such a directive. The president agreed. Within minutes, Cheney was told that an unidentified aircraft was 80 miles outside of Washington. "We were all dividing 80 by 500 miles an hour to see what the windows were," Scooter Libby would later say. A military aide asked Cheney for authorization to take out the aircraft. Cheney gave it without hesitating. The military aide seemed surprised that the answer came so quickly. He asked again, and Cheney once again gave the authorization. The military aide seemed to think that because Cheney had answered so quickly, he must have misunderstood the question. So he asked the vice president a third time. "I said yes," Cheney said, not angrily but with authority. "He was very steady, very calm," says Josh Bolten, then deputy White House chief of staff. "He clearly had been through crises before and did not appear to be in shock like many of us." Cheney says there wasn't time to consider the gravity of the order he had just communicated. It was "just bang, bang, bang," says Cheney, one life-or-death decision after another. The entire room paused after Cheney had given the final order as the gravity of his order became clear. At 10:18 A.M., Bolten suggested that Cheney notify the president that he had communicated the "shoot-down" order. Shortly after Cheney hung up, the officials in the bunker were advised that a plane had crashed in Pennsylvania. Everyone had the same question, says Rice. "Was it down because it had been shot down or had it crashed?" Rice and Cheney were both filled with "intense emotion," she recalls, because they both made the same assumption. "His first thought, my first thought--we had exactly the same reaction--was it must have been shot down by the fighters. And you know, that's a pretty heady moment, a pretty heavy burden." Both Rice and Cheney worked the phones in a desperate search for more information. "We couldn't get an answer from the Pentagon," says Rice. They kept trying. "You must know," Rice insisted in one phone call to the Pentagon. "I mean, you must know!" Cheney, too, was exasperated. We have to know whether we actually engaged and shot down a civilian aircraft, he said, incredulously. They did not. For several impossible minutes, Cheney believed that a pilot following his orders had brought down a plane full of civilians in rural Pennsylvania. Even then, he had no regrets. It had to be done. It was a--once you made the decision, once the plane became hijacked, even if it had a load of passengers on board who, obviously, weren't part of any hijacking attempt, once it was hijacked, and having seen what had happened in New York and the Pentagon, you really didn't have any choice. It wasn't a close call. I think a lot of people emotionally look at that and say, my gosh, you just shot down a planeload of Americans. On the other hand, you maybe saved thousands of lives. And so it was a matter that required a decision, that required action. It was the right call. [clip] [link to www.weeklystandard.com] *yar har fiddley dee plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free* |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 288902 United States 08/30/2007 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cheney already mentioned he ordered it shot down Quoting: Agent Fescado[clip] Moments later Cheney spoke to Bush for the third time. The Secret Service had told Cheney that another aircraft was rapidly approaching Washington, D.C. The combat air patrol had been scrambled to patrol the area. We have a decision to make, Cheney told the president: Should we give the pilots an order authorizing them to shoot down civilian aircraft that could be used to conduct further attacks in Washington? Cheney told Bush that he supported such a directive. The president agreed. Within minutes, Cheney was told that an unidentified aircraft was 80 miles outside of Washington. "We were all dividing 80 by 500 miles an hour to see what the windows were," Scooter Libby would later say. A military aide asked Cheney for authorization to take out the aircraft. Cheney gave it without hesitating. The military aide seemed surprised that the answer came so quickly. He asked again, and Cheney once again gave the authorization. The military aide seemed to think that because Cheney had answered so quickly, he must have misunderstood the question. So he asked the vice president a third time. "I said yes," Cheney said, not angrily but with authority. "He was very steady, very calm," says Josh Bolten, then deputy White House chief of staff. "He clearly had been through crises before and did not appear to be in shock like many of us." Cheney says there wasn't time to consider the gravity of the order he had just communicated. It was "just bang, bang, bang," says Cheney, one life-or-death decision after another. The entire room paused after Cheney had given the final order as the gravity of his order became clear. At 10:18 A.M., Bolten suggested that Cheney notify the president that he had communicated the "shoot-down" order. Shortly after Cheney hung up, the officials in the bunker were advised that a plane had crashed in Pennsylvania. Everyone had the same question, says Rice. "Was it down because it had been shot down or had it crashed?" Rice and Cheney were both filled with "intense emotion," she recalls, because they both made the same assumption. "His first thought, my first thought--we had exactly the same reaction--was it must have been shot down by the fighters. And you know, that's a pretty heady moment, a pretty heavy burden." Both Rice and Cheney worked the phones in a desperate search for more information. "We couldn't get an answer from the Pentagon," says Rice. They kept trying. "You must know," Rice insisted in one phone call to the Pentagon. "I mean, you must know!" Cheney, too, was exasperated. We have to know whether we actually engaged and shot down a civilian aircraft, he said, incredulously. They did not. For several impossible minutes, Cheney believed that a pilot following his orders had brought down a plane full of civilians in rural Pennsylvania. Even then, he had no regrets. It had to be done. It was a--once you made the decision, once the plane became hijacked, even if it had a load of passengers on board who, obviously, weren't part of any hijacking attempt, once it was hijacked, and having seen what had happened in New York and the Pentagon, you really didn't have any choice. It wasn't a close call. I think a lot of people emotionally look at that and say, my gosh, you just shot down a planeload of Americans. On the other hand, you maybe saved thousands of lives. And so it was a matter that required a decision, that required action. It was the right call. [clip] [link to www.weeklystandard.com] You've GOT to be kidding! Where did you get this tripe dialogue?? |
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Agent Fescado User ID: 164710 United States 08/30/2007 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 288902 THE WEEKLY STANDARD Cheney Speaks On Clinton's pardons, 9/11 as seen from the White House bunker, mistakes made in Iraq, and more. by Stephen F. Hayes 07/23/2007, Volume 012, Issue 42 excerpted from a new published book... asshole *yar har fiddley dee plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free* |
Agent Fescado User ID: 164710 United States 08/30/2007 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here buy urself a copy [link to www.amazon.com] Cheney: The Untold Story of America's Most Powerful and Controversial Vice President (Hardcover) by Stephen F. Hayes (Author) *yar har fiddley dee plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free* |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 225509 United States 08/30/2007 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cheney ordered Flight 93 splashed... [link to revereradio.net] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 290638 Australia 08/30/2007 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are not deceived by their pretenses to piety. We have seen their kind before. They are the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th century. By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions--by abandoning every value except the will to power--they follow in the path of fascism, and Nazism, and totalitarianism. And they will follow that path all the way to where it ends: in history's unmarked grave of discarded lies. — George W. Bush, Address to a Joint Session of Congress and the American People, September 20, 2001 potkettle Bush always messes up his words, so i thought i would help him out and get his quote in order. "The sheep are not deceived by our pretenses to piety. They have seen our kind before. The neocons and i ( Bush ) are the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th century. By sacrificing human life to serve our radical satanic/masonic/skull and bonehead/NWO visions--by abandoning every value except our will to power and a satanic New World Order -- we follow in the path of fascism, Nazism of the new improved fourth Reich and totalitarianism. And we will follow that path all the way to where it ends: in history's unmarked grave of discarded lies, deceit and fraud. 911 was an inside Job." —Antichrist, George W. Bush, Address to a Joint Session of Congress and the American People, September 20, 2001 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 225509 United States 08/30/2007 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Listen to the NORAD tapes from 9/11/01 here: [link to revereradio.net] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 290866 China 08/30/2007 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now how in the hell did the loose change guys get copies of these transcripts? Surely not the freedom of info act. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 149882that's what they claim. the timing couldn't be better with their release coming up though. But these tapes seem legit and if anybody messed with them it would be NORAD. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 288227 United States 08/30/2007 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Listen to the NORAD tapes from 9/11/01 here: [link to revereradio.net] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 225509I wish I could understand what I was listening to...I just heard someone say that the "A.G. has landed...Bravo545...Who? Attorney General. Where?...D.C." But there's soooo much background noise. All of this is going to be very interesting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 282519 United States 08/30/2007 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this DID come at the perfect time. ground zero is going to be packed to the brim this 9/11 and these tapes will be part of the show. more undeniable evidence that our leaders lied to us, withheld information, acted shady, and cound't get their story together. dont plan to see this on the mainstream news though. they never show you what really goes down at ground zero every year on 9/11. the truth is unstoppable. many of you should start dealing with it now. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 291039 United States 08/30/2007 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "What is it? .. FIFTH AEROPLANE!! .. Cleveland! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 290866negative clearance to fire. ID TYPE TAIL. 93 is down north east of Camp David confirmed. He exploded, he exploded." [link to u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com] |
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Snake User ID: 291060 United States 08/30/2007 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry as much as I would want real information this is completely fake. I listen to ATC (air traffic control) daily. Things that are being said, and how they are being said are completely inaccurate. The laughing is obviously because the people making this were having a good time. There are more inaccuracies in this tape then the 9/11 commission report. |
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Agent Fescado User ID: 164710 United States 08/30/2007 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that stupid movie was BUNK Quoting: Anonymous Coward 282519i presume you're talking about loosechange, right? well, funny how they (loosechnage) have the norad tapes now, isn't it? no, not loosechange... UNITED 93 [link to www.imdb.com] sry thought it was Flight 93 *yar har fiddley dee plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free* |
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