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A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely

 
Waxy Parness
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A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
This week.

I'm looking for a gap down circuit breaker collapse which results in a free falling, no bid, three consecutive day 10,000 point Dow Jones wipeout.

Longs, Put Sellers, Call Buyers, are heading for the gutter now; the street gutters.

And many of your faces will be planted in them.
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09/09/2007 09:13 AM
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Highly doubtful, if not impossible, but keep hope alive!
Waxy Parness (OP)
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09/09/2007 09:25 AM
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Highly doubtful, if not impossible, but keep hope alive!
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You're entitled to your opinion.

Trade safe
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09/09/2007 09:41 AM
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
This week.

I'm looking for a gap down circuit breaker collapse which results in a free falling, no bid, three consecutive day 10,000 point Dow Jones wipeout.

Longs, Put Sellers, Call Buyers, are heading for the gutter now; the street gutters.

And many of your faces will be planted in them.
 Quoting: Waxy Parness 214446

I agree
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09/09/2007 09:42 AM
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
Is this a Chertoff gut feeling? Any supporting evidence you can share? Charts, links, anything?
Waxy Parness
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09/09/2007 09:46 AM
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Is this a Chertoff gut feeling? Any supporting evidence you can share? Charts, links, anything?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 293401

I trade gaps. Let's just say that I have a good hunch about this.

Please perform your own due diligence.
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09/09/2007 09:49 AM
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
This week.

I'm looking for a gap down circuit breaker collapse which results in a free falling, no bid, three consecutive day 10,000 point Dow Jones wipeout.

Longs, Put Sellers, Call Buyers, are heading for the gutter now; the street gutters.

And many of your faces will be planted in them.
 Quoting: Waxy Parness 214446


I would say it's very possible. What do you do for a living? You sound credible...
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09/09/2007 09:50 AM
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
guess it'll be *another* 1.9% "Collapse"
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It could happen... hiding
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09/09/2007 09:54 AM
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Something MUST give shortly, because inflation is becoming rampant. With no concomitant increase in wages, that tends to make people rather irritable.
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
less than 10% chance....need a bank failure to get the odds up...wouldn,t bet on 10:1 at this point
Waxy Parness (OP)
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09/09/2007 10:33 AM
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
This week.

I'm looking for a gap down circuit breaker collapse which results in a free falling, no bid, three consecutive day 10,000 point Dow Jones wipeout.

Longs, Put Sellers, Call Buyers, are heading for the gutter now; the street gutters.

And many of your faces will be planted in them.


I would say it's very possible. What do you do for a living? You sound credible...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 215191

I'm a rather lazy individual. So to answer your question, I trade and teach for a living, although I don't really have to do either.

There's a couple of Hawaiian dudes who hang here that trade the same way I do.

We post on message boards as an act of random kindness.

Trade safe and hold your loved ones tight. It's going to get really nasty.
Aussie from Perth

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09/09/2007 10:37 AM
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less than 10% chance....need a bank failure to get the odds up...wouldn,t bet on 10:1 at this point
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A bank failure is not too far away now.
Waxy Parness (OP)
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09/09/2007 10:40 AM
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less than 10% chance....need a bank failure to get the odds up...wouldn,t bet on 10:1 at this point


A bank failure is not to far away now.
 Quoting: Aussie from Perth

50 million homedebtors

Probably 10 million of them un-qualified or marginally qualified to carry the mortgage.

$5 trillion in total mortgage debt that is suspect.

$1 trillion or so mortgage resets over the next few years.

God-only knows how much in MBS, CDOs, CDO squareds/cubeds pyramided up on top of the $5 trillion above.

Perhaps five million homedebting sheeple default, maybe even more.

Anywhere from $1.5 to $3 trillion wiped out in pure, raw mortgages not paid. PLUS the ripple-through effects to the above-mentioned MBS/CDO market.

Five million or more houses dumped on the market, which will be added to the ALREADY four-million houses rotting in the elements.

If these numbers are anywhere near correct, we are looking at the Mother of All Busts. It will take the mobilization of every central bank, GSE, printing press, government propaganda entity, and other shill and liar to just stave off a Greater Depression...

Trade safe or don't trade at all.
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09/09/2007 10:49 AM
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
already, after hours:

[link to money.cnn.com]
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09/09/2007 10:53 AM
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
already, after hours:

[link to money.cnn.com]
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not so look at the update time fri am before fridays down day
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09/09/2007 11:09 AM
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Would like to understand - can you pls explain.
Looked at that link showing futures. Who/Why are futures figures and where do they come from??
I thought the makets closed at 4pm on Friday and don't open til Monday 9:30am. Who is doing this trading and where is this trading happening to create these Futures? Always wondered about this and now I'm asking....Tryin to not be a sheeple.
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
Highly doubtful, if not impossible, but keep hope alive!

You're entitled to your opinion.

Trade safe
 Quoting: Waxy Parness 214446


As you are entitled to yours, no matter how ridiculous it may be.

You're alluding to the DOW dropping to the 3,000 level in 3 days.

It won't in that short timeframe, although it's grossly overvalued, and should head lower over time.

I don't trade; I got my funds mostly in cash.
Waxy Parness (OP)
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09/09/2007 11:34 AM
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
Highly doubtful, if not impossible, but keep hope alive!

You're entitled to your opinion.

Trade safe


As you are entitled to yours, no matter how ridiculous it may be.

You're alluding to the DOW dropping to the 3,000 level in 3 days.

It won't in that short timeframe, although it's grossly overvalued, and should head lower over time.

I don't trade; I got my funds mostly in cash.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 294383

I acknowledge that I could be wrong. But my money is going with the big dawgs who purchased billions of dollars worth of options.

Perform your own due diligence and trade safe.

hold your family and loved ones tight. It's going to get extremely nasty, in my opinion.
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
Highly doubtful, if not impossible, but keep hope alive!

You're entitled to your opinion.

Trade safe


As you are entitled to yours, no matter how ridiculous it may be.

You're alluding to the DOW dropping to the 3,000 level in 3 days.

It won't in that short timeframe, although it's grossly overvalued, and should head lower over time.

I don't trade; I got my funds mostly in cash.

I acknowledge that I could be wrong. But my money is going with the big dawgs who purchased billions of dollars worth of options.

Perform your own due diligence and trade safe.

hold your family and loved ones tight. It's going to get extremely nasty, in my opinion.
 Quoting: Waxy Parness 214446


I agree it will get nasty over time.

If I may ask, how are you playing a wipeout next week, have you bought puts?

A wipeout would correct many years of excesses; it's just a extremely low probability event. Even a solid 20% wipeout would only take the DOW to 10,500. You're calling for a 75% wipeout.
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09/09/2007 11:45 AM
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
Pay no attention to this propaganda designed to sell you put options!!!
Waxy Parness (OP)
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09/09/2007 11:47 AM
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Pay no attention to this propaganda designed to sell you put options!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 231940

You dumb asshole! Show me where I said anything about puts. As I mentioned earlier, I trade gaps!
stfu
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09/09/2007 11:51 AM
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
hey WAX PAPER

i think you are full of shit.

HOWEVER. you may also be partially full of shit.

SO> Please explain how ANY system can COLLAPSE in the sense you describe. The FED has unlimited and unrestricted abilities to "Create" Federal Reserve Notes, which is the same as creating debt which by Congressional act is secured by the full faith and credit of the us sheeple's SWEAT.

Further Executive Orders signed by the head jackboot/pauper have created plunge protection teams which are authorized to do ANYTHING to stabilize the markets. Vast amounts of STOCK have been bought up in offshore accounts and companies like GM in particular have "sold" massive amounts of stock to only 4 unregulated offshore accounts.

what mechanism, given these facts, could create a DROP as you describe. The LOSS OF VALUE is happening faster than could be imagined, but it is INVISIBLE to the stupid.

what do you benefit by befuddling the confused?
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09/09/2007 11:54 AM
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
hey WAX PAPER

i think you are full of shit.

HOWEVER. you may also be partially full of shit.

SO> Please explain how ANY system can COLLAPSE in the sense you describe. The FED has unlimited and unrestricted abilities to "Create" Federal Reserve Notes, which is the same as creating debt which by Congressional act is secured by the full faith and credit of the us sheeple's SWEAT.

Further Executive Orders signed by the head jackboot/pauper have created plunge protection teams which are authorized to do ANYTHING to stabilize the markets. Vast amounts of STOCK have been bought up in offshore accounts and companies like GM in particular have "sold" massive amounts of stock to only 4 unregulated offshore accounts.

what mechanism, given these facts, could create a DROP as you describe. The LOSS OF VALUE is happening faster than could be imagined, but it is INVISIBLE to the stupid.

what do you benefit by befuddling the confused?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 196275

You dumb fuck! You don't know who I am.
stfu
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09/09/2007 11:57 AM
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
WAXY, WHO ARE YOU????
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09/09/2007 12:01 PM
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from the pic, i would say you were the fat half of penn and teller....two assholes that specialize in trickery and deception...

how IRONIC
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09/09/2007 12:01 PM
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
Central banks won't be allowed to fail, but smaller ones will have problems, FDIC notwithstanding. FDIC will prevent runs on banks but not red ink. Stock market will decline in steps, not all at once. Maybe 3,000 with a dead-cat bounce to bait the suckers before the next fall. Probably end up around 6,000, but they may be able to milk it for one last drop. That way, a handful of people can own it all - which is the intent.
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09/09/2007 12:02 PM
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plus....you didn't respond to my POINTS

classic asshole technique.

if you hold yourself out as some sort of EXPERT...prove it or stfu.

loser
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09/09/2007 12:03 PM
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
Central banks won't be allowed to fail, but smaller ones will have problems, FDIC notwithstanding. FDIC will prevent runs on banks but not red ink. Stock market will decline in steps, not all at once. Maybe 3,000 with a dead-cat bounce to bait the suckers before the next fall. Probably end up around 6,000, but they may be able to milk it for one last drop. That way, a handful of people can own it all - which is the intent.
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what do you base your "theories" on?
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
from the pic, i would say you were the fat half of penn and teller....two assholes that specialize in trickery and deception...

how IRONIC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 196275

stfu
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Re: A Circuit Breaker Stock Market Collapse Appears Likely
plus....you didn't respond to my POINTS

classic asshole technique.

if you hold yourself out as some sort of EXPERT...prove it or stfu.

loser
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 196275

stfu

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