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Jesus=Horus? Not Even Close! Zeitgeist Is A Lie And The Bible Is True

 
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Horus is just one of many myth that Christianity is based on. Christianity is a lie and some many people have swallowed it, it is self perpetuating.
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Mr. (M),

I'd like for you to reflect upon what the early Christians saw as God before the coming of Christ-Jesus in flesh. It was not Horus - you are correct.

But what did they call Christ before we had the word "Christian" while in Egypt and in Heliopolis and other centers?

I'll give you a hint, it starts with an "A".
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Mr. (M),

I'd like for you to reflect upon what the early Christians saw as God before the coming of Christ-Jesus in flesh. It was not Horus - you are correct.

But what did they call Christ before we had the word "Christian" while in Egypt and in Heliopolis and other centers?

I'll give you a hint, it starts with an "A".
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No.

The early Christians called him Yahshua (or Yeshua in Aramaic)

They also referred to him as the Messiah

The apostle John gave him the title "Logos" meaning "The Word"

He was referred to by many other titles as well
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Face it, OP. Your religion is a sham.
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Illuminatis goal is to destroy Christianity!
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Part 1 of Zeitgeist is FALSE ---designed to eliminate faith in a moral God who asks us to live by absolute moral laws that are JUST and GOOD.

Parts 2 and 3 of Zeitgesit are TRUE---

So what else is new? 95 percent of what the devil says is true... that's why he is able to get his sheeple on board his evil agenda..

Wake up folks-- ask GOD to give you discernment so you can separate out the LIES from the TRUTH in everything you see and read.

Hey-- if Winston Smith, the character in Orwell's 1984 had believed in God, all the torture that he endured at the hands of O'Brien would not have crushed his spirit -- he would have believed in the eventual triumph of GOOD. He could have died knowing that God knew about his pain and injustice.
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The New World Order WANTS you to turn away from Jesus the Messiah.

They want you to be prepared for the One World Religion.

It is time for you to consider the true mountain of evidence FOR Christianity.

Here is a great place to go for starters:

[link to godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 209736


You are fuckin stupid. you mention avoiding one world religion but yet you promote people TO christianity. like everyones just gonna hop on the merduerous christian bandwagon. gimme a break and stop being a hypocrit. FUCK THE BIBLE and fuck your god.
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Part 1 of Zeitgeist is FALSE ---designed to eliminate faith in a moral God who asks us to live by absolute moral laws that are JUST and GOOD.

Parts 2 and 3 of Zeitgesit are TRUE---

So what else is new? 95 percent of what the devil says is true... that's why he is able to get his sheeple on board his evil agenda..

Wake up folks-- ask GOD to give you discernment so you can separate out the LIES from the TRUTH in everything you see and read.

Hey-- if Winston Smith, the character in Orwell's 1984 had believed in God, all the torture that he endured at the hands of O'Brien would not have crushed his spirit -- he would have believed in the eventual triumph of GOOD. He could have died knowing that God knew about his pain and injustice.
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Yes I should clarify that point.

The parts where they talk about 9/11 are partly true.

9/11 was very clearly an inside job.

But Part I is a complete fraud.
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i think part 1 was completely believeable. of course all you religious fanatics are too closed minded to the fact. it was made to strike an open mind of the possibility.

and as soon as any bible banger out there give proof of the bibles integrity, i wil just call you all full of shit and hopeless.
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Come on people, wake up already. I don't care if the part of Horus, which all of you are talking about is true or not. There are many other facts in the movie than just that.

But regardless of that, believe in anything you want, worship whoever you want, pray and everything, just don't buy into the institution of religion. I think everybody in these days can read for themselves and think for themselves, so you don't need to hear what the church has to say about politics, morals or anything else for that matter... Faith and religion are everyones personal view and belief, so don't be SHEEP PEOPLE!!!

If there is a fact and proven truth anywhere in the religious institutions around the world is that they are selfish rotten bunch of angry people with lust for power and domination of the WHOLE world!!! And that is a fact people mmmOK??
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only a christian would argue with the TRUTH

the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE...FREE yourself from RELIGION!

we are experiencing the world of religion NOW

the fruit of this tree SUCKS...

get rid of religions and you will get rid of war, it is the WHORE of all the EARTH... any and all religions are the a-BOMB-DAMN-nations that causes desolation...WAKE UP!

GET OUT OF BABYLON
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There are pagan influences in some areas of "Christianity".......if you want to know where they really came from, look here:

[link to godlikeproductions.com]

But the pure way that Yahshua (Jesus) taught did not have ANY pagan influences.
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Can anyone provide any evidence that the claims in Zeitgeist about Christianity are true?

I challenge you.
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Can anyone provide any evidence that the claims in Zeitgeist about Christianity are true?

I challenge you.
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Can you provide any evidence the bible is true?
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Can anyone provide any evidence that the claims in Zeitgeist about Christianity are true?

I challenge you.

Can you provide any evidence the bible is true?
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Start here:

[link to godlikeproductions.com]


After you have spent 5-10 hours digesting that basic material, then come back here and we'll get into some more advanced things.
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You start here with the first 3 popes were jews.
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You start here with the first 3 popes were jews.
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The papacy is pagan and it is from the pagan Roman religion.

You should follow Jesus the Messiah and not the "pope".
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Jesus copied Osiris in the raising of Lazarus, whose name in Aramaic is Osiris. Osiris is the god of the dead. Jesus raised a man literally from the dead, named after the god of the dead. Jesus was proving that he was the living god, not a mystical metaphor, just as the logos was a mystical construct, but the logos became flesh, Christ.
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Jesus copied Osiris in the raising of Lazarus, whose name in Aramaic is Osiris. Osiris is the god of the dead. Jesus raised a man literally from the dead, named after the god of the dead. Jesus was proving that he was the living god, not a mystical metaphor, just as the logos was a mystical construct, but the logos became flesh, Christ.
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Wrong.

Where do you all get this stuff?

Here is information about the name Lazarus from an encyclopedia:

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The name Lazarus can refer to a number of people and things. It is most commonly known as the name of a man Jesus raises from the dead according to the New Testament. Consequently, most uses of the name, real or fictional, refer to someone with an extremely long lifespan or to a tool that can prolong life or revive the dead. The derivation of the name itself is from Greek Lazaros, which was taken from the Aramaic Lazar, which in turn was a form of the Hebrew name Eleazar.
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"Logos" and Sophia were concepts in Greece (I won't bother explaining because it will go over your Christian crew cuts) long before the date attributed to Jesus' birth.
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"Logos" and Sophia were concepts in Greece (I won't bother explaining because it will go over your Christian crew cuts) long before the date attributed to Jesus' birth.
 Quoting: miscreant2



No joke.

John was taking the concept of the "Logos" and using it to describe Jesus.

Just like if I said: "Jesus is the Door."

Well, doors existed before Jesus.

But so what?

When you are using a metaphor, of course you are using language that is already in existence.
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Jesus=Horus? Not Even Close! Zeitgeist Is A Lie And The Bible Is True

Jesus=Horus? Not Even Close! Zeitgeist Is A Lie And The Bible Is True

 Quoting: (M) 209736


Prove that shit. Prove that the bible isn't just another fucking book, while you stand there and worship it!

Prove it's any different than, say, Harry Potter, or Cat in the Hat or any of that shit.

I'll say it again!

Take notice!

THEY CONTROL THROUGH FEAR OF DEATH. THE BIBLE IS THE "BOOB TUBE" OF ITS DAY.

They know all people fear death, so therein lies a control mechanism, if you can get people to believe a certain thing about death and what happens after.....

It's called mind control, and therefore there is no need for warfare or blood shed, he who controls the remote controls the box! ;)
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It is evident that there are many who are puffed up with their own wisdom and knowledge and fail to understand the difference between the One creator YHVH and his only provision for salvation and entrance into his kingdom Yahushua / Title = Jesus. Jesus has been dressed up in pagan sun God clothing by the religious crowd for some time now, however, this will not endure.

The true One creator who made the heavens and the earth and set up the stars and planets for times and seasons cannot ever become lower than the creation and turned into a myth. But only in those minds cultivated in darkness and full of the knowledge of this world and the deceiver s.a.tan. This deceiver always tries to imitate the One creator YHVH and to explain away the provision of salvation Yahushua who was determined before the heavens and earth were even created and still lives today as the LIVING Torah or word of YHVH.

What is the difference? Knowledge of someone is far different from KNOWING someone. Knowledge about someone can be manipulated and turned into a lie. Knowing someone first hand and having one on one fellowship with them will never be replaced by mere knowledge gained from a book.

The most learned individual with all kinds of degrees who knows the bible and everything else about it and surrounding religions and could repeat every word from memory with the exact chapter and verse number still is only full of a bunch of words stuffed into their head without the LIVING Torah / Word of YHVH living inside of their heart.

How does one come to know this LIVING Torah / Word? Only on the conditions of YHVH only. He will not meet your conditions. Those who insist that he meet their conditions and will not give in to him, reject the greatest gift that was ever provided for men and totally fail to understand what love really is. They reject this all the while s.a.tan laughs and wins in his crafty deceit for he loves to carry men into the punishment that was only prepared for this s.a.tan and his unholy angels.

Now what do these words even mean but to maybe cause one person to think about their heart and that they are a spirit living in a carnal body that will die one day while the spirit lives on somewhere. Where will your spirit live after this body is dead? Yahushua has a new dwelling prepared for those who know him the LIVING Torah. For those who do not know him there will be a terrible place to look forward to but only by each person's choice they determine where they would like to spend eternity.

The thing that is important is now you know and you have been given the choice to decide. What mystery to you might be revealed if you take just a little faith and ask this Yahushua to prove himself to you. If you are a least bit earnest I know you will not be disappointed. This is not to find head knowledge but to find out you are a spirit living in a body and that the LIVING Torah can reside with you in your temple and you will truly KNOW him as a real person and not a religious code that is stuffed into your head.

How do I know this Yahushua? By faith but not by just mere imagination. For I have seen him with my own eyes in the heavens, not in a vision but with my eyes and has spoken to me without doubt but a truth he does live inside my temple right in my very heart. Why if a person will seek him with their whole heart and challenge him to prove himself he will. Unbelieving hearts will always be dissapointed and have to write everything off as a religious code or a way of life that is to live in deceit. Although, there are many religious that sorrowfully so are living such a life without knowing this LIVING Torah. You only have one chance now to live with him and find out who he really is. One life and that's it. To really find this LIVING Torah is the greatest thing that can ever happen and to personally know the real true One creator of all things Abba YHVH.

Know him as Abba Father or know him as the one who will destroy the wicked and unbelieving from off of the face of this earth not to far off from now and is such a terrible thing that no one should want to get to that day.

Now who is real and who is a myth? A challenge for all. Who pleads with people to know this Yahushua and find true life, love and peace within? Now increase in travail upon this earth with birth pangs as the time draws close. Peace in the hearts of those in Yisrael Yahushua. Travail and dread for those who are not. Unrelenting thoughts about what to do as each person is dealt with by the true holy spirit of the One creator YHVH. Rain of peace for his servants and fervent heat and dryness for those who are not. A sign will be given not far off from now as there will be three days and nights of darkness and then Yisrael will be gathered not long after.

See if this will be or not.

MYK
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What the hell are you babbling about, you lunatic?
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Zeitgeist, the part on Christianity...has been debunked and is a lie....and while the 911 and Intl bankers part may be true...the main thing the Luciferians wish to discredit so they can usher in the AC, is Christianity.

You brainwashed Luciferian puppets, may realize that one day, but then again.. maybe not.
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Zeitgeist, the part on Christianity...has been debunked and is a lie....and while the 911 and Intl bankers part may be true...the main thing the Luciferians wish to discredit so they can usher in the AC, is Christianity.

You brainwashed Luciferian puppets, may realize that one day, but then again.. maybe not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 189402



Very well said.

9/11 was clearly an inside job.

But if they can get the Patriot movement to turn against the Lord Jesus they know they can win.
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The Zeitgeist believers are in total denial mode. You can present mountains of evidence and the programming is SO deep that you only make them mad.

While the other 2/3rds of the film is correct, the TARGET of the film is Christianity. This is what they are after. To usher in the NWO they have to discredit and get rid of Christianity in order for them to succeed. They are very subtle in the way they work now. They are very slick in mixing truth with fact, as the Father of Lies always has done.
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WE get mad?
Everytime i try to talk to my Christian father about this he has nothing to say except that the bible is right and that i am going to hell.AND WE ARE IN DENIAL MODE whos the one who still believe in the imaginary man in the sky.
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Can anyone list the parallels between the Horus Myth and the Jesus Myth? I personally thought there was more similarity between Osirus, who was tortured to death (torn apart limb by limb), and then came back alive. There also seems to be significant parallels to Moses: floating down a river, sister following, sister moving in with king to care for brother etc.
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George Bush Sr. = Osiris
Condoleeza Rice = Isis
George Bush Jr. = Horus

The Burger King = Osiris
Wendy = Isis
Ronald McDonald = Horus

M. Bison = Osiris
Cammy = Isis
Sagat = Horus
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 279952

LOL owned

srysly though. Zeitgeist was an entertaining movie, but as far as scholarship goes it was pitifully poor in the anti-christianity section. I didn't think anyone gave any regard to the sixteen crucified saviors book anymore, but I guess I was wrong. C'mon, there's got to be some better scholarship in this regard around somewhere.
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I don't get your parallels. Seriously, Horus vs Jebus
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The Garden of Eden happened before the Babylonian and Egyptian religions. Since the devil was in the Garden of Eden doing all the tempting and since the devil was in heaven as one of the angels, you can be sure he knew God Almighty's plan for mankind. Satan set out corrupting the REAL STORY OF CREATION AND THE COMING MESSIAH by interjecting all these mythical figures and soap operas into the various Babylonian religions that are mentioned in this thread.

THE BABYLONIAN RELIGIONS CAME AFTER THE FACT AND ARE COPYCAT STORES INSTITUTED BY SATAN.

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