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Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 232327
 United States
9/13/2007 7:03 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Well, duh?
Once the US is a country it never leaves.
That happened only once, in Vietnam. |
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TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 297561
United States
9/13/2007 7:03 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
If a permanent force needed to keep peace, or create peace, that is the job of united UN alliances. It is not the job of any outside country.
If Bush and cheney want to be in Iraq permanently , they can pay for it out of their own ill gotten funds. While they are at it, they can pay back what they have robbed from the US citizens. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 292061
United States
9/13/2007 7:32 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Sounds like a good idea to me. It's worked in Korea, Germany, Japan, etc. etc. Lord knows the Middle East needs us there - they just can't play nice.
Course, if you think the Moose Limbs are great and the U.S. is evil, then perhaps you might think this is a bad idea. It would also make you a dumbass. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 379
What.. The.. Fuck.. Are.. You.. Talking... About? AMERICANS cant play nice. We fucking kill, rape and molest our own people on a daily basis. USA has more of its population behind bars than ANY other nation. You are a dumbass if you think we have the right to "police" other people when we cant act humanly ourselves. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287857
United States
9/13/2007 7:49 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Like we did'nt suspect. Thats why they built fortified bases and the largest secure embassy there in the first place. No surprise to GLP'ers Quoting: Anonymous Coward 297356
Hard to believe but there are many who have said the same before the perm structures were done-many who tried and deny-seems denial is a new country
sad that so many actually believe the chronic lying |
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Dismas
User ID: 209384
United States
9/13/2007 8:32 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
You think!
We are in the process of building a huge Embassy and 14 military bases!!!
[link to www.fcnl.org]
Bush/American Government/Military Idustrial Complex never planned to leave Iraq once we got there. This is only the first step to an Imperial/Colonial march across the Middle East (and eventually the world!)
America (I am ashame to say) is the the New World (Order) Romans and the World is ready-made for conquering!
Dismas Zoathan
I've been there-done that so, follow me, I might be a little less lost than you. If not-tag, you're it! |
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zacksavage 
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User ID: 290784
United States
9/13/2007 8:36 PM
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Hard to believe but there are many who have said the same before the perm structures were done-many who tried and deny-seems denial is a new country
sad that so many actually believe the chronic lying Quoting: Anonymous Coward 287857
Yes, the chronic lying in annoying,..but those that choose to dismiss it are pure evil.
imo.
Z
Free your mind,...Your Ass will follow. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 297632
United States
9/13/2007 8:48 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Like we did'nt suspect. Thats why they built fortified bases and the largest secure embassy there in the first place. No surprise to GLP'ers Quoting: Anonymous Coward 297356
No surprise, back in July when the US embassy in Iraq plans were published on the net, it was for sure that Bush43 would do this when the embassy is finished now, in September. Thisisa police state and people are dying. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 169327
United States
9/13/2007 8:49 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 245418
United States
9/13/2007 9:04 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Sounds like a good idea to me. It's worked in Korea, Germany, Japan, etc. etc. Lord knows the Middle East needs us there - they just can't play nice.
Course, if you think the Moose Limbs are great and the U.S. is evil, then perhaps you might think this is a bad idea. It would also make you a dumbass.
What.. The.. Fuck.. Are.. You.. Talking... About? AMERICANS cant play nice. We fucking kill, rape and molest our own people on a daily basis. USA has more of its population behind bars than ANY other nation. You are a dumbass if you think we have the right to "police" other people when we cant act humanly ourselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 292061
Speak for yourself. I personally don't know any rapists or murderers.
Your logic is pathetic.
We have every right to 'police' people who want to kill us and other law-abiding, tax-paying, freedom-loving people.
If that means setting-up camp in the middle of the Mideast, so be it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 290784
United States
9/13/2007 9:05 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Speak for yourself. I personally don't know any rapists or murderers.
Your logic is pathetic.
We have every right to 'police' people who want to kill us and other law-abiding, tax-paying, freedom-loving people.
If that means setting-up camp in the middle of the Mideast, so be it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 245418
Fascist
Nazi |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 245418
United States
9/13/2007 9:17 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Speak for yourself. I personally don't know any rapists or murderers.
Your logic is pathetic.
We have every right to 'police' people who want to kill us and other law-abiding, tax-paying, freedom-loving people.
If that means setting-up camp in the middle of the Mideast, so be it.
Fascist
Nazi Quoting: Anonymous Coward 290784
Liberal pasifist cowering wussie.
Nazi's never set-up schools, hospitals, and community centers for the citizenry.
Now go back under your bed and let the adults take care of things. |
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zacksavage
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User ID: 290784
United States
9/13/2007 9:20 PM
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Liberal pasifist cowering wussie.
Nazi's never set-up schools, hospitals, and community centers for the citizenry.
Now go back under your bed and let the adults take care of things. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 245418
I spent 9 years in the fucking military,...how about you Nazi?
Z
Free your mind,...Your Ass will follow. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 245418
United States
9/13/2007 9:23 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Liberal pasifist cowering wussie.
Nazi's never set-up schools, hospitals, and community centers for the citizenry.
Now go back under your bed and let the adults take care of things.
I spent 9 years in the fucking military,...how about you Nazi?
Z Quoting: zacksavage
Thanks for your service. If you were honorably discharged, you have my full respect.
However, was I talking to you? |
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zacksavage
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User ID: 290784
United States
9/13/2007 9:25 PM
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Thanks for your service. If you were honorably discharged, you have my full respect.
However, was I talking to you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 245418
Don't thank me you fucking coward, I asked you if your sorry Nazi loving ass ever served this country.
You fucking call me a goddamn wussie you better be able to back that up with some sacrifice of your own.
...Or hit the fucking trail.
Z
Free your mind,...Your Ass will follow. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 245418
United States
9/13/2007 9:27 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Sounds like a good idea to me. It's worked in Korea, Germany, Japan, etc. etc. Lord knows the Middle East needs us there - they just can't play nice.
Course, if you think the Moose Limbs are great and the U.S. is evil, then perhaps you might think this is a bad idea. It would also make you a dumbass.
OK, then you pay for it.
You're probably don't to realize it, or perhaps it's the Whitehouse dictated gag order, but all these expenditures to pay for Iraq fun and games- 10-12 billion a month- is coming out of appropriations for highway funding and other monies owed by the Federal govt. to the states and cities who in turn are switching to toll roads to get their roads built, hiking property taxes and sales taxes, and whatever ways they can stick it to you. But the last time I checked, our soldiers are dying at the hands of Iraqis IN IRAQ and not in the United States. If the Chinese decided to invade and overthrow the evil, corrupt Bush dictatorship I and every other American would be setting off roadside bombs down Interstate 20 to send the Chinese packing and the Iraqis are no different. Especially the 6 million strong Bathists that had their jobs taken away. Quoting: The Monk 274840
Can't compare the two. We aren't blowing-up kids and innocents, genius. The U.S. isn't a terrorist organization. The U.S. is the most philanthropic country in the World...by FAR. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 245418
United States
9/13/2007 9:30 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Thanks for your service. If you were honorably discharged, you have my full respect.
However, was I talking to you?
Don't thank me you fucking coward, I asked you if your sorry Nazi loving ass ever served this country.
You fucking call me a goddamn wussie you better be able to back that up with some sacrifice of your own.
...Or hit the fucking trail.
Z Quoting: zacksavage
*sigh*
I was originally talking to Anonymous Coward, User ID: 290784.
I served for 4 years in the Army. I spent a year overseas.
Aaaaaaanyway. I will just agree to disagree with you. |
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zacksavage
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User ID: 290784
United States
9/13/2007 9:39 PM
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I was originally talking to Anonymous Coward, User ID: 290784.
I served for 4 years in the Army. I spent a year overseas.
Aaaaaaanyway. I will just agree to disagree with you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 245418
Well alrighty then. So you have served. Good,..Let me throw that pathetic, patronizing sentiment back at you then.
Thank you for your service. You must listen to that boot-licker Sean Hannity a lot.
I spent time in the Marine Crop and the Army so I know a lot of guys like you.
I was you.
I educated myself,...you can too.
Your thoughts are fascist. Bush is a fucking liar, the terrorist threat is make-believe. Why don't you step up and follow the money to the guilty parties?
If you would simply check my ID with the anonymous posting, you would find we are one and the same.
We are All One.
Namaste
Z
Free your mind,...Your Ass will follow. |
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scatworld
User ID: 296423
United States
9/13/2007 10:09 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Bush's voice sends waves of nausea my way, so I skipped the speech. Just curious if the phrase "Permanent Iraq presence" was included in the address. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 245418
United States
9/13/2007 10:32 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
I was originally talking to Anonymous Coward, User ID: 290784.
I served for 4 years in the Army. I spent a year overseas.
Aaaaaaanyway. I will just agree to disagree with you.
Well alrighty then. So you have served. Good,..Let me throw that pathetic, patronizing sentiment back at you then.
Thank you for your service. You must listen to that boot-licker Sean Hannity a lot.
I spent time in the Marine Crop and the Army so I know a lot of guys like you.
I was you.
I educated myself,...you can too.
Your thoughts are fascist. Bush is a fucking liar, the terrorist threat is make-believe. Why don't you step up and follow the money to the guilty parties?
If you would simply check my ID with the anonymous posting, you would find we are one and the same.
We are All One.
Namaste
Z Quoting: zacksavage
I was actually being sincere when I thanked you for your service. Don't be so touchy.
You spent time in both the Marines and the Army huh? Nine years? I have never met someone who served in two branches.
Are you sure you're not full of shit? |
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zacksavage
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User ID: 290784
United States
9/13/2007 11:06 PM
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I was actually being sincere when I thanked you for your service. Don't be so touchy.
You spent time in both the Marines and the Army huh? Nine years? I have never met someone who served in two branches.
Are you sure you're not full of shit? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 245418
I'm not touchy,... I find thanking someone for voluntary service disingenuous.
We all have our reason for joining,... mine was job training and to get out of the mid-west.
I met and worked with some incredible people. I got out because I started learning too much about corruption.
I spent 6 years active duty Marine Corp and 3 years Army Nation Guard.
Since you say you have never heard of anyone serving two branches of service,...and I know a hundred or a thousand guy and gals that did what I did,...
Are you sure you are not full of shit???
Z
Free your mind,...Your Ass will follow. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 297701
 Canada
9/13/2007 11:28 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
settle guys, were on the same side, the enemies are the ones sending you guys off to an illegal war for their own gain. We must unite to defend our freedoms, not squable about battle scars. Like you said "we are all one" but if you put out hate thats what you will get back. The leaders of countries rarely give a shit about the ppl, thats why they send you over and not their kin. (with the exception of prince ((*philip*?)) which was a photo op more than anything else.) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 183770
Canada
9/13/2007 11:39 PM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Can't compare the two. We aren't blowing-up kids and innocents, genius. The U.S. isn't a terrorist organization. The U.S. is the most philanthropic country in the World...by FAR. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 245418
Oh good christ, what the fuck color is the sky on your planet? Do you have even the slightest idea of what's going on around you? It must hurt to be that dumb.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 297700
 Mexico
9/14/2007 12:00 AM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
If we've been paying attention this is non-news as well.
We're constructing 14 permanent military bases, including the largest US military airstrip ever in Iraq.
People who actually investigate things have known we're not leaving - ever - for a long time already.
It will be interesting to see how the 'masses' react to the 'news' now that the Decider has weighed much decioniousness about telling Amerika his plans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 294760
Yep. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 245418
United States
9/14/2007 12:47 AM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Can't compare the two. We aren't blowing-up kids and innocents, genius. The U.S. isn't a terrorist organization. The U.S. is the most philanthropic country in the World...by FAR.
Oh good christ, what the fuck color is the sky on your planet? Do you have even the slightest idea of what's going on around you? It must hurt to be that dumb.
United States is No. 1, distributing more than double the next largest contribution by the Japanese government, which gave $13.2-billion to developing countries in 2005.
[link to philanthropy.com] |
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FightingSpirit
User ID: 269684
United States
9/14/2007 1:02 AM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Of course....Like I told you before...
The TIMING is NO COINCIDENCE...
They needed to occupy that area now....We are in the end years of this current world age/cycle....The TIMING is NO COINCIDENCE...They started it all with 9-11 and there are just a lil over 5 years left of this current world cycle now.
They needed to occupy that area because they are preparing for something right under our noses.
They are preparing for the RETURN...
They could care less how many human beings die during there charade...Thye never cared..This whole long cycle...
They want the MACHINE RACE to prevail...NOT the HUMAN RACE...
They HATE human beings....They just use them for their evil agenda..
I have told you the TRUTH...Nobody will believe until it is TOO LATE...
Guess nbody will be laughing then, eh??
Anyway...NO WE WILL NOT BE LEAVING IRAQ ANYTIME SOON..
The REAL WAR has not even begun yet folks!
"Pray for solace..Pray for resolve..Pray for a savior..Pray for deliverance..Some kind of purpose..A glimpse of a LIGHT in this VOID OF EXISTENCE..Now witness the END of an age..Hope dies in hands of believers..Who seek the truth in the LIAR'S EYE"
"The greatest TRICK the Devil ever pulled was not convincing the world he doesn't exist..But convincing it that he is GOD"
"I have no pleasure in any man who despises music. It is no invention of ours: It is a gift of GOD. I place it next to theology. Satan hates music: He knows how it drives the EVIL spirit OUT of US."
- Martin Luther
"What have I done?..Where have I come from?..When I burnt the backs with the SUN through a GLASS..Did I SEAL the loss that's become me?.. Feeling undone..What have I become? ..When I turned my back on you..I turned my back on MYSELF and became this MACHINE"
"What you IGNORE now..Will come OUT of YOU later"
"Stones to throw at my Creator..
MASOCHISTS to which I cater..You don't need to bother..I don't need to be..I'll keep slipping farther..
But once I hold on..I won't let go 'til it BLEEDS" |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 276554
United States
9/14/2007 3:44 AM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
The U.S. isn't a terrorist organization. The U.S. is the most philanthropic country in the World...by FAR. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 245418
Very common misperception. We certainly spend the most on war. So much that nobody even minds when Rummy/Dov Zakheim casually mention there's $2.3 TRILLION missing from the DoD.
But when you're talking aid and development to poor countries, the U.S. is actually at the bottom of the list:
Global analysts dispute perceived US generosity
By Charles M. Sennott, Globe Staff | December 31, 2004
LONDON -- The US government is contributing $35 million of the half-billion dollars that the world's developed nations are donating to the tsunami relief effort, and many Americans believe -- as President Bush put it earlier this week -- that their country is being its typical ''generous, kindhearted" self.
But both on a per capita basis and as a percentage of the nation's wealth, America's emergency relief in Asia and development aid to poor countries actually ranks at the bottom of the list of developed nations, some of the world's top economists and analysts of international development aid said yesterday.
The world's Asian relief effort -- the largest in history -- and the enormity of the disaster have put into sharp focus an intensifying debate over what it means for a country to be generous: how much should wealthy nations pledge for relief from natural disasters, and how much should those governments donate for development in poorer nations?
As of yesterday, the amount the United States has pledged is eclipsed by the $96 million promised by Britain, a country with one-fifth the population, and by the $75 million vowed by Sweden, which amounts to $8.40 for each of its 9 million people. Denmark's pledge of $15.6 million amounts to roughly $2.90 per capita.
The US donation is 12 cents per capita.
Amid the building worldwide relief effort and mounting criticism of the US government's response, the White House issued a statement yesterday from Bush announcing that Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and the president's brother, Florida Governor Jeb Bush, would travel to Asia on Sunday ''to meet with regional leaders and international organizations to assess what additional aid can be provided by the United States."
''I look forward to receiving the delegation's assessment of the relief efforts so that our government can best help those in need," he said.
The 60 countries that have provided aid, including the United States, have also pledged equipment, military support, and supplies from corporate donations and private charities in addition to the government's donations. As of yesterday, US corporate donations reached $60 million, CNN reported.
But even with these additional contributions taken into consideration, America's perception of itself as the most generous country in the world is contradicted by the reality, economists and specialists on international aid say.
Jeffrey Sachs, an economist at Columbia University and a specialist on aid to developing countries who has worked with the United Nations, said, ''There is a very big difference between American attitudes, which are generous; beliefs, which is that we do a lot; and the reality. . . . The reality is we actually do very little by comparative measures. . .
[link to www.boston.com] |
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Paid Poster
User ID: 74191
 Netherlands
9/14/2007 4:49 AM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
Well, Bush is verifiably insane.
According to Breaking News on MSNBC's Hard Ball minutes ago, Bush is to call for a Permanent US Military commitment to Iraq!
No link yet, live on msnbc. Quoting: Axiom-Io
Was there ever any doubt ?
Uncensored Media at [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 379
United States
9/14/2007 10:15 AM | | Re: Bush To call for Permanent Iraq Presence! | Quote |
The U.S. isn't a terrorist organization. The U.S. is the most philanthropic country in the World...by FAR.
Very common misperception. We certainly spend the most on war. So much that nobody even minds when Rummy/Dov Zakheim casually mention there's $2.3 TRILLION missing from the DoD.
But when you're talking aid and development to poor countries, the U.S. is actually at the bottom of the list:
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We are not at the bottom of the list in TOTAL DOLLARS...we are at the top. From your article:
While the United States gives the most foreign development aid in terms of dollars [double the next closest country], it ranks lowest among wealthy countries in terms of official development assistance as a percentage of gross national income.
Lowest as a % of GNP. Whatever. *shrugs*
We'd spend more if it weren't for all the social
programs within our own country.
And don't forget about the PRIVATE CONTRIBUTIONS by the citizenry.
You argument is a fool's errand. |
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