9mm or .45 ACP? What is your preferred home defense round?

12ga, sawed off barrel, 15 rd special dispenser.

Simple. Many off you twits and your handguns would miss because of anxiety. I won't miss even with my eyes 1/2 closed from being woke up.

You American's with your gun fetishism are truly embarrassing.

You American's with your gun fetishism are truly embarrassing.

Yep it serves as proof of how pathetic they really are, scared of their own shadows.

Neither. Using a pistol for home defense is foolish.

Either round you mentioned involves using an autoloader, not a revolver, which means you (or your spouse) have to charge and aim it under night-time, high-stress conditions when your adrenaline is rising through the roof.

Then you have to aim it correctly, hoping that the round doesn't miss the Bad Guy, go through the wall and kill your child sleeping in the next room.

If you think you must be "macho" enough to have a handgun as a self-defense weapon, at least get a revolver firing either a .38 special or .357 magnum round. True, it might kill the person in the next room -- but at least you'll be able to fire it without dropping it on the floor as you try to chamber a round.

Better yet, invest in a 12-gauge slide-action shotgun with an 18-inch barrel and load it with #7 dove shot (don't charge it until the Bad Guy gets there -- just the sound of the round being chambered is enough to scare most Bad Guys off). If you must fire it indoors at typical indoor encounter distances (<10 feet) the shot won't disperse to more than three or four inches, will be stopped by most walls (even interior ones) and will having the Bad Guy explaining things to Jesus in short order.

As most of you know, I don't own a firearm and never will, but even I know that kind of basic stuff about home defense.

Neither. Using a pistol for home defense is foolish.

Either round you mentioned involves using an autoloader, not a revolver, which means you (or your spouse) have to charge and aim it under night-time, high-stress conditions when your adrenaline is rising through the roof.

Then you have to aim it correctly, hoping that the round doesn't miss the Bad Guy, go through the wall and kill your child sleeping in the next room.

If you think you must be "macho" enough to have a handgun as a self-defense weapon, at least get a revolver firing either a .38 special or .357 magnum round. True, it might kill the person in the next room -- but at least you'll be able to fire it without dropping it on the floor as you try to chamber a round.

Better yet, invest in a 12-gauge slide-action shotgun with an 18-inch barrel and load it with #7 dove shot (don't charge it until the Bad Guy gets there -- just the sound of the round being chambered is enough to scare most Bad Guys off). If you must fire it indoors at typical indoor encounter distances (<10 feet) the shot won't disperse to more than three or four inches, will be stopped by most walls (even interior ones) and will having the Bad Guy explaining things to Jesus in short order.

As most of you know, I don't own a firearm and never will, but even I know that kind of basic stuff about home defense.

9mm or .45 ACP? What is your preferred home defense round?

(And don't tell me you prefer a bazooka or some nonsense like that)

You American's with your gun fetishism are truly embarrassing.

Yep it serves as proof of how pathetic they really are, scared of their own shadows.

gun and child molester threads. guaranteed to keep running all day with everybody swinging their dicks. "i got this!! your little shit ain't shit!! i'd blow em to hell!! hang em so high the flies couldn't reach em!! a .45'll splatter their fucking head through the wall!!!"



LOL!!!

I own a Springfield Armory XD-9 9mm with Hollow Metal Jacket rounds (17 rounds), it would do the trick.

At my shop I carry a Walther P22 with factory laser. Just in case you wanted to know. ;-)

gun and child molester threads. guaranteed to keep running all day with everybody swinging their dicks. "i got this!! your little shit ain't shit!! i'd blow em to hell!! hang em so high the flies couldn't reach em!! a .45'll splatter their fucking head through the wall!!!"



LOL!!!



how do you equate owning a gun with child molesters hillary?

i grew up with guns, started shooting at the age of five, it is a way of life in most farming communities, we don't have any crime to speak of

but all the help one could ever hope for

gun and child molester threads. guaranteed to keep running all day with everybody swinging their dicks. "i got this!! your little shit ain't shit!! i'd blow em to hell!! hang em so high the flies couldn't reach em!! a .45'll splatter their fucking head through the wall!!!"



LOL!!!



how do you equate owning a gun with child molesters hillary?

i grew up with guns, started shooting at the age of five, it is a way of life in most farming communities, we don't have any crime to speak of

but all the help one could ever hope for
I did too and hunted groundhogs and bought ammo. at 12 but that was when kids knew guns were real and not some video game. If my dad would have caught me misusing a gun my ass would have been sore for a week.

gun and child molester threads. guaranteed to keep running all day with everybody swinging their dicks. "i got this!! your little shit ain't shit!! i'd blow em to hell!! hang em so high the flies couldn't reach em!! a .45'll splatter their fucking head through the wall!!!"



LOL!!!



how do you equate owning a gun with child molesters hillary?

i grew up with guns, started shooting at the age of five, it is a way of life in most farming communities, we don't have any crime to speak of

but all the help one could ever hope for

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I don't know what kind of "15 rd special dispenser" you'd need for a burglar (or where you'd buy one) ...

WTF is going on here?

It used to be the paid-poster shills (many moderators among them) would jump all over a thread about guns, bragging about the kind they have, how well they maintain it, that they're always pack'n, etc.

All of a sudden, the only paid-poster shill to comment has said he/she WOULD NEVER own a gun ...

The word has gone out, as we approach the '08 election there will be a major push for gun control ... which means disarmament.

60-100 million christians were murdered in the USSR between the revolution and shortly after WWII, after being disarmed.

You American's with your gun fetishism are truly embarrassing.

Yep it serves as proof of how pathetic they really are, scared of their own shadows.

you euro fags are a hoot! go hug your muslim brothers will ya? btw, that tingling feeling in your back is a knife

12ga, sawed off barrel, 15 rd special dispenser.

Simple. Many off you twits and your handguns would miss because of anxiety. I won't miss even with my eyes 1/2 closed from being woke up.


I don't know what kind of "15 rd special dispenser" you'd need for a burglar (or where you'd buy one), but I do know that sawing the barrel to less than eighteen inches from the breech to the muzzle could get you a hefty fine and a jail term -- or worse, to which the late Ms. Vicki Weaver could attest!

WTF is going on here?

It used to be the paid-poster shills (many moderators among them) would jump all over a thread about guns, bragging about the kind they have, how well they maintain it, that they're always pack'n, etc.

All of a sudden, the only paid-poster shill to comment has said he/she WOULD NEVER own a gun ...

The word has gone out, as we approach the '08 election there will be a major push for gun control ... which means disarmament.

60-100 million christians were murdered in the USSR between the revolution and shortly after WWII, after being disarmed.



link please to those figures, want to read for myself thanks.

12 ga. pumpkin ball




ditto...no brainer


shotgun in close
auto rifle otherwise.

I would like to use .45 ACP rounds, but it's quite an expensive round to put through a gun. I prefer .9mm parabellum ammo (I have a Taurus 92 for home defense) but lately it's been in short supply around here, I've had to settle for .9mm luger--less accurate but better than telling an intruder "please don't hurt me!"

I own a Springfield Armory XD-9 9mm with Hollow Metal Jacket rounds (17 rounds), it would do the trick.

At my shop I carry a Walther P22 with factory laser. Just in case you wanted to know. ;-)