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Ashkenazi Jews= Gog and Magog

 
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There is a popular myth being expounded, which has gained lots of ground in America in particular, that the Ashkenazi Jews are descended from the ancient Israelites and have a divine right to the Holy Land. In fact, this is the furthest thing from the truth.

Ashkenazi Jews such as Alan Dershowitz and Alan Greenspan are not Israelite..... not Semitic..... in fact they're not even Middle Eastern. They are not the same race as Jesus. In fact, they are descended froma great Russian Kingdom known as Khazaria, the land of Gog and Magog. In Ezekiel 38 and in Islam, we were warned that in the end time a Russian people would invade and conquer the Holy Land, bringing Ethiopians (The Falashis), Iranians (Sephardics such as Katsav, Halutz, and Mofaz), Germans, Turks, and numerous other peoples with them.

Ultimately, they will be hit with an earthquake and fire from the sky, as will their allies.... those who dwell carelessly, in security, carefree in the coastlands Ezekiel 39:6 (very likely a reference to America.) Those who were robbed (The Palestinians) will pillage those who looted them.

It turns out Zionism is a very cruel hoax, but its consequences go far beyond merely afflicting the Palestinians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Iranians, etc.

After I realized the real meaning of Ezekiel 38 and 39, I determined to study the religion of Islam more carefully, as I realized that according to Ezekiel Sheba and Dedan (namely the Arabs) are the enemies of Gog and Magog.

Unfortuantely, so many Christians in America have been duped by the Zionist hoax; they are fully expecting Vladmir Putin's Russia to invade the Zionist state despite the following facts:

1. Under Zionism, the people of the Holy Land are not "unsuspecting" or living without walls, bars, or gates. Quite the contrary, the Zionist state is armed to the teeth with hundreds of neutron bombs. It behaves like a paranoid schizophreic, attacking its neighbors constantly claiming that its neighbors are about to attack it.

2. Russia has no borders with the Holy Land and is armed to the teeth (with ICBM's and thouands of thermonuclear warheads) as well..... it is also the largest country of the world... rich in oil, gas, palladium, nickel, fresh water, etc. with a Macchiavellian leader like Putin; it thus has no motivation to conquer the militarized ghettho that is the Holy Land.

In conclusion, it is quite obvious that the Holy Land was a land of unwalled villages before the Zionist Russian invasion. Sharon, Netanyahu, Jabotinksy, Ben Gurion, and all their buddies were and are mostly atheists and Talmudists born in eastern Europe... they are as entitled to the Holy land, as a Japanese Muslim would be to conquer Iraq.

Unfortunately, so many "Christians" have been duped by this powerful deception, and other deceptions besides. Let us hope we all see the light before it is too late. We need to read Ezekiel 38, 39 and the Qur'an with an open heart, in our search for the truth. Glory to God according to the number of His creation, and even more, much much more, than that!

Thank you for your time dear reader.
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Gog and Magog and all the peoples with them will fall by the millions, right there on the hills of the Holy Land. It will take seven months to bury their dead.

The Zionists will soon reach for their sword again against Iran, but this time their arrow will misfire, their sword and bow will be struck out of hand.... the vultures willl feed on their corpses according to Ezekiel. The Earthquake which will afflict them will most likely be a cataclysmic one, at least 9 on the Richter scale one would think.

It is interesting to also note that although the Zionists will not allow the Palestinian refugees back, they bring in many Non-Ashkenazi Russians by the hundreds of thousands. In a small way, this also contributed to the fulfillment of the prophecy as we know that Gog and Magog will bring many peoples with them.
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From a scientific viewpoint on racial genetics concerning 'Jews,' Ashkenazis are not Khazars. Ashkenazis can trace their 'Jewish' roots back to 4 or 5 males who were Jewish, but their female mates were not, they were 'gentiles.' As for Khazars, they are reported to be converts from the 7th century from south central Russia. The similarities of language in Yiddish and Hebrew suggests a Germanic influence, though not necessarily of origin. Some Jewish researchers believe the 'Ashkenazis' began following a Roman expulsion of Jews in the 1st century to indo-European areas in southern Germany. As Ashkenazis are not Khazars, Gog and Magog might refer to these two particular groups, but even this is suspect as there are references to 'Magog' within the Bible as a geographical reference, not a 'genetic' one.
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Ashkenazi Jews= Gog and Magog

You are dillusional bsflag
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Gog and Magog are Ashkenazi Jews. There is no doubt about this.

Do you know what Occam's Razor means? All things being equal, the simplest explanation is usually correct. Here's what we know:

A. The Khazars lived in Russia between the Caspian and Black Seas.

B. They converted to Talmudic Judaism about 1000 years after Christ.

So what happenned to all these milllions of people who converted to Judaism?

If they didn't migrate westward into Poland after their empire was crushed.... what happened to them?

If Ashkenazis are not descended from the Khazars, then who are the descendants of the Khazars?

It's obvious that Gog and Magog are ALREADY situated in Jerusalem. It was an immigration invasion. It has already happened.

This is probably the reason that Ezekiel doesn't mention Egypt, Jordan, or Syria in the invasion. It was an immigration invasion. There is no way so many countries could invade the holy land at the same time, and Ezekiel names or alludes to tens of peoples and says there will be yet others with them.

The people of the Holy land have to be "unsuspecting" not paranoid when the invasion comes, and yet that does not typify the behavior of the Zionists, who are constantly on the lookout for the next Hitler.

The people of the holy land were defenseless and unsuspecting immediately before the Zionist immigration invasion.

The reference to countries like Ethiopia is a reference to Zionist Jews from those countires, not to the entire country. It is a reference to the Zionist Aliya. A 3rd world country like Ethipia (which doesn't have borders with the Holy Land) is incapable of invading and conquering Jeruslaem.

Gog and Magog will soon start another war.... probably by attacking Iran.... but they will be afflicted by a giant earthquake in the Holy Land and Fire from the sky (probably a metoerite).... as will their allies who dwell carefree in security in the coastlands (that's probably us.)

It's only a matter of time now. The Judgment is close. Hal Lindsey, Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, D. James Kennedy, John Hagee, and company have all been duped....as have their followers... they are in for the shock of their lives.

Sincerely,

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I would also like to add in Daniel 8, we are told that a Western leader would attack Iraq?/Iran? in the end times

This leader would destroy many with words of peace, but he would in reality be a man of war. This description honestly reminds me a lot of Bush, whether it applies to him or not.
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I would like to bump this thread in order to couple it with the "Jews originate anywhere but Palestine" thread. Thanks.
bump
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it's really yisrael. do you know y
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I would like to bump this thread in order to couple it with the "Jews originate anywhere but Palestine" thread. Thanks.
 Quoting: zionism is wrong 298836

The OP of that thread is stating that "Jews originate anywhere but Palestine" even though the article he himself quotes says:

"Most Jews are Caucasians who originated in the Middle East".

Conclusion: the OP can't even read...
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The ashkenazis themselves have some semetic genes, but it is so thin that they cannot be considered israelites anymore. the Palestinians however have more DNA similarities to the israelites and therefore are considered the children of israel, not the askenazis gog and magog
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Current DNA studies blow your theory to shreds OP.
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True story, Bush Sr's skull & bones nickname was Magog
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You are correct OP.

Zionism is clearly, morally wrong.
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Ashkenazi are the smartest people on the planet. Look at the statistics, they reflect facts.

Ashkenazi, descendants of Abraham, account for 0.25% of the global population.

Yet we hold 29% of Noble Prizes granted


In the USA, Ashkenazi are roughly 2.4% of the population yet we make up 21% of all Ivy League graduates and account for 23% of the wealthiest families.


The fact is, different races have different skills. It is easy to dismiss this in a culture which fears logical discrimination.

If you need a brilliant mind, call an Ashkenazi.
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Ashkenazi are the smartest people on the planet. Look at the statistics, they reflect facts.

Ashkenazi, descendants of Abraham, account for 0.25% of the global population.

Yet we hold 29% of Noble Prizes granted


In the USA, Ashkenazi are roughly 2.4% of the population yet we make up 21% of all Ivy League graduates and account for 23% of the wealthiest families.


The fact is, different races have different skills. It is easy to dismiss this in a culture which fears logical discrimination.

If you need a brilliant mind, call an Ashkenazi.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Zionism is morally wrong, and spiritually bankrupt.

Good luck.
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Current DNA studies blow your theory to shreds OP.
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Current DNA studies conducted at the University of Jerusalem are detailed in the book by Schlomo Sands (tenured prof. there) in his book "Inventing the Jewish People".

Try reading it and actually doing your homework b4 making false statements.

According to the studies, the Palestinian people carry the markers for the most direct lineage to the Hebrews, while few if any, European Jews carry the same.

Sands makes the statement that most Americans would be surprised to find that many western Caucasians carry more markers than those that call themselves Jews.
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Thats your one source.
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There is a popular myth being expounded, which has gained lots of ground in America in particular, that the Ashkenazi Jews are descended from the ancient Israelites and have a divine right to the Holy Land. In fact, this is the furthest thing from the truth.

Ashkenazi Jews such as Alan Dershowitz and Alan Greenspan are not Israelite..... not Semitic..... in fact they're not even Middle Eastern. They are not the same race as Jesus. In fact, they are descended froma great Russian Kingdom known as Khazaria, the land of Gog and Magog. In Ezekiel 38 and in Islam, we were warned that in the end time a Russian people would invade and conquer the Holy Land, bringing Ethiopians (The Falashis), Iranians (Sephardics such as Katsav, Halutz, and Mofaz), Germans, Turks, and numerous other peoples with them.

Ultimately, they will be hit with an earthquake and fire from the sky, as will their allies.... those who dwell carelessly, in security, carefree in the coastlands Ezekiel 39:6 (very likely a reference to America.) Those who were robbed (The Palestinians) will pillage those who looted them.

It turns out Zionism is a very cruel hoax, but its consequences go far beyond merely afflicting the Palestinians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Iranians, etc.

After I realized the real meaning of Ezekiel 38 and 39, I determined to study the religion of Islam more carefully, as I realized that according to Ezekiel Sheba and Dedan (namely the Arabs) are the enemies of Gog and Magog.

Unfortuantely, so many Christians in America have been duped by the Zionist hoax; they are fully expecting Vladmir Putin's Russia to invade the Zionist state despite the following facts:

1. Under Zionism, the people of the Holy Land are not "unsuspecting" or living without walls, bars, or gates. Quite the contrary, the Zionist state is armed to the teeth with hundreds of neutron bombs. It behaves like a paranoid schizophreic, attacking its neighbors constantly claiming that its neighbors are about to attack it.

2. Russia has no borders with the Holy Land and is armed to the teeth (with ICBM's and thouands of thermonuclear warheads) as well..... it is also the largest country of the world... rich in oil, gas, palladium, nickel, fresh water, etc. with a Macchiavellian leader like Putin; it thus has no motivation to conquer the militarized ghettho that is the Holy Land.

In conclusion, it is quite obvious that the Holy Land was a land of unwalled villages before the Zionist Russian invasion. Sharon, Netanyahu, Jabotinksy, Ben Gurion, and all their buddies were and are mostly atheists and Talmudists born in eastern Europe... they are as entitled to the Holy land, as a Japanese Muslim would be to conquer Iraq.

Unfortunately, so many "Christians" have been duped by this powerful deception, and other deceptions besides. Let us hope we all see the light before it is too late. We need to read Ezekiel 38, 39 and the Qur'an with an open heart, in our search for the truth. Glory to God according to the number of His creation, and even more, much much more, than that!

Thank you for your time dear reader.
 Quoting: Zionism is wrong 298836


all gog/magog means is the muslims fighting the lower level jews and the christians for their claim to the jewish jesus from the bible that doesn't exist. When these guys find out what they are really fighting for is some made up character sprung from the luciferian mind of the jewish freemason that's when the real shit hits the fan. Their own shit because they will covered in it.
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1. Under Zionism, the people of the Holy Land are not "unsuspecting" or living without walls, bars, or gates. Quite the contrary, the Zionist state is armed to the teeth with hundreds of neutron bombs. It behaves like a paranoid schizophreic, attacking its neighbors constantly claiming that its neighbors are about to attack it.

2. Russia has no borders with the Holy Land and is armed to the teeth (with ICBM's and thouands of thermonuclear warheads) as well..... it is also the largest country of the world... rich in oil, gas, palladium, nickel, fresh water, etc. with a Macchiavellian leader like Putin; it thus has no motivation to conquer the militarized ghettho that is the Holy Land.

3. Israel lies at the collision of three great plates - the Eurasian, the African and the Arabian.

The "invasion" of the Holy Land by Russia has indeed been accomplished by Ashkenazis some of whom proved their "right" to be there by having one Jewish Ashkenazi grandparent.

And Ashkenazi's may do well but that is not because of their intelligence but because of their vile Talmudic gangster beliefs, immorality and greed.
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Ashkenazi are the smartest people on the planet. Look at the statistics, they reflect facts.

Ashkenazi, descendants of Abraham, account for 0.25% of the global population.

Yet we hold 29% of Noble Prizes granted


In the USA, Ashkenazi are roughly 2.4% of the population yet we make up 21% of all Ivy League graduates and account for 23% of the wealthiest families.


The fact is, different races have different skills. It is easy to dismiss this in a culture which fears logical discrimination.

If you need a brilliant mind, call an Ashkenazi.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Zionism is morally wrong, and spiritually bankrupt.

Good luck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24952600


There is a difference between a personal descendancy and political preferrences.

I am an Ashkenazi, I do not support anything nefarious. I have my own views.

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