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Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century update mms2 pg 51

 
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Not liking the sound of this.........
Chlorine Dioxide is pretty nasty stuff....
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Yes- however with IMS.... Relax.

-d[ClO2]/dt = kI[ClO2][I-] + kII[ClO2][I-]2

The rate constants at 298 K and the activation parameters are kI = (1.87 ± 0.02) × 103 M-1 s-1, HI = 35.4 ± 0.7 kJ/mol, SI = -63.5 ± 2.3 J/(mol K), kII = (1.25 ± 0.04) × 104 M-2 s-1, HII = 36.7 ± 1.3 kJ/mol, SII = -43.2 ± 4.6 J/(mol K).

Both the second- and third-order paths are interpreted in terms of an outer-sphere electron-transfer mechanism. The calculations based on the Marcus theory yield kI = 1358 M-1 s-1 for the second-order path.
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I find it funny how everyone on this forum (and in life) freak out w/out researching into something.
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Not liking the sound of this.........
Chlorine Dioxide is pretty nasty stuff....



Yes- however with IMS.... Relax.

-d[ClO2]/dt = kI[ClO2][I-] + kII[ClO2][I-]2

The rate constants at 298 K and the activation parameters are kI = (1.87 ± 0.02) × 103 M-1 s-1, HI = 35.4 ± 0.7 kJ/mol, SI = -63.5 ± 2.3 J/(mol K), kII = (1.25 ± 0.04) × 104 M-2 s-1, HII = 36.7 ± 1.3 kJ/mol, SII = -43.2 ± 4.6 J/(mol K).

Both the second- and third-order paths are interpreted in terms of an outer-sphere electron-transfer mechanism. The calculations based on the Marcus theory yield kI = 1358 M-1 s-1 for the second-order path.
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I think you can put that in lay terms can't you.
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Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century update mms2 pg 51
Not liking the sound of this.........
Chlorine Dioxide is pretty nasty stuff....



Yes- however with IMS.... Relax.

-d[ClO2]/dt = kI[ClO2][I-] + kII[ClO2][I-]2

The rate constants at 298 K and the activation parameters are kI = (1.87 ± 0.02) × 103 M-1 s-1, HI = 35.4 ± 0.7 kJ/mol, SI = -63.5 ± 2.3 J/(mol K), kII = (1.25 ± 0.04) × 104 M-2 s-1, HII = 36.7 ± 1.3 kJ/mol, SII = -43.2 ± 4.6 J/(mol K).

Both the second- and third-order paths are interpreted in terms of an outer-sphere electron-transfer mechanism. The calculations based on the Marcus theory yield kI = 1358 M-1 s-1 for the second-order path.
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Ummmm

OK?
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09/18/2007 10:34 PM
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bump

Anybody confirm whether part II contains more details than what's laid out at:

[link to phaelosopher.wordpress.com]
Questeon nli (OP)
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09/18/2007 11:03 PM
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It tells all you need to know in part 1 for free.

127 pages worth for free.

And Where to buy it premade for 20 bucks.


What he tells you in part 2 is specific applications and

how to make yourself in the kitchen.
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Available outside the US?
Europe?
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09/19/2007 05:52 AM
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Does anyone know how to get this in europe?
Globallight.net doesn't do exports.
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subscribe to the global light newsletter (on their website) and the newsletter gives info about their European associates. Australia also.
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Does anyone know how to get this in europe?
Globallight.net doesn't do exports.


subscribe to the global light newsletter (on their website) and the newsletter gives info about their European associates. Australia also.
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here is the info for outside U.S.

International Distributors

United Kingdom

Rennaissance Health
117 tard_drive, Swiss Cottage, London NW3 6HY
Phone: 0800 038 03 03
website: www.resonance-health.biz
email: customercare@Resonance-health.biz

Namaste Publishing / website: www.namastepublishing.co.uk / Email: Info@namastepublishing.com / Phone: (44) 1743 341 303

Western Canada

Carol Rosen / Alberta, Canada / email: Willow6@shaw.ca

(MIRACLE II PRODUCTS ARE NOT AVAILABLE IN CANADA; HOWEVER, THE MIRACLE II ENHANCED A'ME PRODUCTS ARE ALLOWED)

Australia

Please visit our Australian website, www.glnau.com, to view our list of distributors.


Join our mailing list!


email: gln@globallight.net
phone: 888-236-2108
web: [link to www.globallight.net]
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Interesting!
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Here is a website that gives details about the Miracle II products. Nicely presented, but the products can be bought elsewhere at less expense.

[link to home.earthlink.net]
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09/20/2007 12:46 AM
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[link to phaelosopher.wordpress.com]
GL
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Here is the interview with the inventor.
[link to www.webtalkradio.net]
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Not liking the sound of this.........
Chlorine Dioxide is pretty nasty stuff....



Yes- however with IMS.... Relax.

-d[ClO2]/dt = kI[ClO2][I-] + kII[ClO2][I-]2

The rate constants at 298 K and the activation parameters are kI = (1.87 ± 0.02) × 103 M-1 s-1, HI = 35.4 ± 0.7 kJ/mol, SI = -63.5 ± 2.3 J/(mol K), kII = (1.25 ± 0.04) × 104 M-2 s-1, HII = 36.7 ± 1.3 kJ/mol, SII = -43.2 ± 4.6 J/(mol K).

Both the second- and third-order paths are interpreted in terms of an outer-sphere electron-transfer mechanism. The calculations based on the Marcus theory yield kI = 1358 M-1 s-1 for the second-order path.


I think you can put that in lay terms can't you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 255024

beside acting smart..it's just some copied pasted reaction rate constant (which is 2nd and 3rd order dependant) but no mechanism is shown. the rate constants given show that it's a pretty easy reaction to occur and that it releases heat and takes up entropy.. other than that, i agree, why post it?

oh, and my vote is for snake oil.
GREY LENSMAN

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09/20/2007 01:11 AM
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SORRY ABOUT THE DUPLICATION BUT I WAS JUST TAKING TO THE INVENTOR. HE SENT ME SOME LINKS, SO I POSTED THEM AND HE IS READING THIS SITE.

CLEARLY ANOTHER TRY IT AND SEE, IF IT WORKS, WHAT DO YOU DO?
GL
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well, it DOES have he S. African Johanesberg State Prison seal of approval™-they dont just give those away, you know
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LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW. ITS POWERFUL STUFF.

GL
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You can make your own pre-made MMS by purchasing a product called Nigari (magnesium chloride). It is readily available on the web and is much cheaper than pre-made MMS.
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Hey ladies,
The inventor is single!

[link to www.plentyoffish.com]
GREY LENSMAN

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JUST FINISHED LISTENING TO THE WHOLE INTERVIEW. IT ANSWERS A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND EXPLAINS A GREAT DEAL AS WELL.

IT SEEMS IT KILLS BAD BUGS OF MANY COMPLEXIONS.

HOW IT WORKS ON COLLATERAL DAMAGE DEPENDS UPON HOW THE DAMAGE WAS CAUSED.

HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ALZHEIMERS, DIABETES ETC, THINGS THAT RESULT POSSIBLY FROM MANY CAUSES.

HIS POINT THAT OFTEN WHEN YOU KILL THE BUGS CAUSING THE DAMAGE, THE BODY ITSELF CAN AND DOES REPAIR THE RESULTING DAMAGE.

IT ALSO SEEMED TO BE SELF TITRATING, TAKE TOO MUCH AND YOU VOMIT OR SHIT.

THE RADIO HOST ALSO HAD SOME VERY SENSIBLE ADVICE.

GL
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If you knew Jim you would know that every word he has published is accurate.

wow, such a small world...

thanks to the OP for getting this out,I had no idea that he was doing these things now.

I knew him while working in gold mining develpment ...

great guy to deal with.

the chemistry makes sense...

won't be long before he is shut down, though.

a person can't attest to having administered any form of medicinal treatment to anyone without incurring the wrath of TPATB....

no matter how he words it...he won't be in business for long...except to get the word out on how to make it...
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You can make your own pre-made MMS by purchasing a product called Nigari (magnesium chloride). It is readily available on the web and is much cheaper than pre-made MMS.
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Cool!, How about some details on how to make it?
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"I have found information that a product called nigari is also magnesium chloride. Nigari is used mostly as a tofu coagulant but apparently can also be used to make your own pre-made MMS. It is easily available for purchase on the web and much cheaper than the pre-made MMS."

"nigari" you say? I'll check it out.
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"I have found information that a product called nigari is also magnesium chloride. Nigari is used mostly as a tofu coagulant but apparently can also be used to make your own pre-made MMS. It is easily available for purchase on the web and much cheaper than the pre-made MMS."

"nigari" you say? I'll check it out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 158854



I see that "nigari" is selling for $3.89 per 1 lb. bag.

I don't see any reason why anyone should pay more than this. I'm not posting a link because that could be considered spamming but just gi (google it)
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i thought miracle ii products were some sort of ecologically friendly cleaning products. i didnt know they had a product to be taken internally?
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"I have found information that a product called nigari is also magnesium chloride. Nigari is used mostly as a tofu coagulant but apparently can also be used to make your own pre-made MMS. It is easily available for purchase on the web and much cheaper than the pre-made MMS."

"nigari" you say? I'll check it out.



I see that "nigari" is selling for $3.89 per 1 lb. bag.

I don't see any reason why anyone should pay more than this. I'm not posting a link because that could be considered spamming but just gi (google it)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 158854


Alot of what I found was on the curezone forum which now has its own magnesium discussion board. There are quite a few threads over there regarding this new protocol. This thread here on glp precipitated my looking and finding the board over there. The use of nigari is probably the way Mr. Humble made his, and most likely the way the few vendors who sell the pre-made make theirs.

Btw, I've found a pound of nigari much cheaper than $3.89.
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Btw, I've found a pound of nigari much cheaper than $3.89.
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Ok, well give me a link...

or a quote from the website at least.
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Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century update mms2 pg 51
Hello its clo2 not magnesium!

and not miracle II soap or product!

read the f'n manual!


Btw, I've found a pound of nigari much cheaper than $3.89.



Ok, well give me a link...

or a quote from the website at least.
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Hello its clo2 not magnesium!

and not miracle II soap or product!

read the f'n manual!








Btw, I've found a pound of nigari much cheaper than $3.89.



Ok, well give me a link...

or a quote from the website at least.

 Quoting: Questeon nli 255024


Look, I don't think it really matters what industrial chemicals you use to create your own home remedies! Just use the cheapest industrial chemical you can find add some water and drink it. What could go wrong?

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