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| Yolo
User ID: 335248
12/7/2007 7:43 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
I am the one who stated that I read about Jim Humble stating it would be okay to breathe the MMS....Now I know I'm not crazy or prone to getting things mixed up, but I have not been able to readily put my finger on where I read it, as I have now read absolutely everything I could get my hands on regarding MMS over the past couple of months. But, I did read it somewhere, even though I am not inclined whatsoever to inhale it. It stood out in my mind simply because I remember that I had accidently left my mixture in the sunshine coming in from a window one day, and the sunshine brought quite a gas out of it. I threw it out and started over, but I wondered at the time if it were harmful to breathe. I assumed it was. So, when I read what Jim Humble said, it stood out in my mind. However, anyone reading this, certainly take the most cautious route...
So, about Chemotherapy. It really baffles me how people have placed so much belief in such a controversial drug, a drug that destroys and never heals....Case in point. I have a friend who went through Chemotherapy 10 years ago for breast cancer. For the last 10 years, she has been seemingly cancer-free....Hooray Chemo? So, if you had asked her until a month ago how she feels about Chemo, she would have stated that the chemo cured her breast cancer. But just last month she was diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer to her spine...No cancer in the breast anymore, but still considered breast cancer and only in her spine. Now, she has a little bit different picture. I am a radiology transcriptionist. I have seen much, but I am always amazed how someone will place so much faith in the medical community, even though our medical institution is so reliant financially on chemotherapy, that it would collapse without this drug...doesn't anyone see a conflict of interest here? And, I really don't expect anyone to believe me, but just please do yourself a favor read into it. Read about the pharmaceutical drugs and find out that they never heal, only provide a bandaid fix.
Okay, so I'll get off my soapbox. One of the things I like about MMS is that Jim Humble has given the rights to everyone so that no one will try to monopolize or buy someone out and then sock it to all the poor sick and hurting people in the world. I like that a lot. I have believed for a long time that they have discovered a cure for cancer, but covered it up. So, the MMS is an onslaught to the pharmaceutical world. I say hooray!! I hope others agree.
I do not mean to be controversial... |
| Yolo
User ID: 335248
12/7/2007 7:45 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
I am the one who stated that I read about Jim Humble stating it would be okay to breathe the MMS....Now I know I'm not crazy or prone to getting things mixed up, but I have not been able to readily put my finger on where I read it, as I have now read absolutely everything I could get my hands on regarding MMS over the past couple of months. But, I did read it somewhere, even though I am not inclined whatsoever to inhale it. It stood out in my mind simply because I remember that I had accidently left my mixture in the sunshine coming in from a window one day, and the sunshine brought quite a gas out of it. I threw it out and started over, but I wondered at the time if it were harmful to breathe. I assumed it was. So, when I read what Jim Humble said, it stood out in my mind. However, anyone reading this, certainly take the most cautious route...
So, about Chemotherapy. It really baffles me how people have placed so much belief in such a controversial drug, a drug that destroys and never heals....Case in point. I have a friend who went through Chemotherapy 10 years ago for breast cancer. For the last 10 years, she has been seemingly cancer-free....Hooray Chemo? So, if you had asked her until a month ago how she feels about Chemo, she would have stated that the chemo cured her breast cancer. But just last month she was diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer to her spine...No cancer in the breast anymore, but still considered breast cancer and only in her spine. Now, she has a little bit different picture. I am a radiology transcriptionist. I have seen much, but I am always amazed how someone will place so much faith in the medical community, even though our medical institution is so reliant financially on chemotherapy, that it would collapse without this drug...doesn't anyone see a conflict of interest here? And, I really don't expect anyone to believe me, but just please do yourself a favor read into it. Read about the pharmaceutical drugs and find out that they never heal, only provide a bandaid fix.
Okay, so I'll get off my soapbox. One of the things I like about MMS is that Jim Humble has given the rights to everyone so that no one will try to monopolize or buy someone out and then sock it to all the poor sick and hurting people in the world. I like that a lot. I have believed for a long time that they have discovered a cure for cancer, but covered it up. So, the MMS is an onslaught to the pharmaceutical world. I say hooray!! I hope others agree.
I do not mean to be controversial... |
| Yolo
User ID: 335248
12/7/2007 8:15 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
One more thing....
Has anyone heard of Hulda Clark? She has written all these books on "The Cure For All Cancers", "The Cure For All diseases", etc. Her books are in every health food store across America...well, most of them anyway. Hulda Clark states in her books that cancer cannot exist without two things..1) Isopropyl alcohol (which is in everything, food, all lotions, etc); and 2) The intestinal fluke.
It dawned on me the other day about the intestinal fluke. With that in mind, MMS would work wonders on cancer alone because it will no doubt kill the intestinal fluke!! |
| Arrow
User ID: 305837
12/7/2007 11:14 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Well god bless the person who decides to try inhaling chlorine dioxide via nebulizer, even when diluted as Adam suggests, which is not homeopathic by any means or stretch of the imagination. Diluted does not mean homeopathic.
For an explanation of homeopathy see:
[link to www.healthsalon.org]
[link to www.healthsalon.org]
Saying that something is homeopathic may suggest a level of safety that may not at all be there. Homeopathy has the honor of the reputation as being the safest system of medicine ever developed. Diluted chorine dioxide is not homeopathic. Do not be mistaken.
Is it possible to make a homeopathic remedy from chlorine dioxide? Yes, but it would not serve the purpose that most people seek with this medicine and would afford little use to the vast majority of people. Chlorine dioxide as it is currently used falls into the category of allopathic medicine.
I would want inhaled chlorine dioxide trialed on animals before I went near it with a 10 foot pole. When it comes to your lungs you must use extreme caution. With orally ingested chlorine dioxide we already have a long history of use and safety.
Since it has been shown through testimonial that taking MMS orally brings relief to lung infection why would one want to inhale it? Just take it orally. Since the blood carrying the chlorine dioxide travels through the vascular system into the lungs what more do you need?
Again, I will repeat that nebulized colloidal silver has proven safe and effective if you feel that you really have to inhale something. Stick with known entities when it comes to your lungs. |
| Arrow
User ID: 305837
12/7/2007 11:24 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Hulda Clark?
She is a heroine of mind. Her work is highly controversial, but for me, in my trials with chronic disease she had hit the nail on the head with her parasite protocols.
I was really into rife technology and I used 2 different rife machines, top notch best quality, almost daily for many months which barely made a dent in my levels of parasites. Clarks formulas did. Her book was like my bible at the time.
When my parasite levels went down the cancer levels went down too. This is part of the reason that I feel so optimistic for MMS. Testimonials are proving it out. I am hoping to see more good ones on cancer though. Perhaps in time. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 160058
12/8/2007 2:30 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
phaelosopher, I sent you an email. I held off, but finally did it, thank you in advance for a response."Mama"
Mama,
You pose some great questions. I started a response. FYI... Jim Humble answers all of his emails. But the volume is growing, so it takes some time. Even in responding to you I have had to (or chosen to) do some research, just to be clear on my own understanding. But I wanted you to know I got it and am addressing it in my own right. In addition to you, I will likely post the question and answer to my blog, as they are pertinent to all of our understanding of how ClO2 works.
Regards,
A~ Quoting: phaelosopher
Hi Adam. I will check out the blog more often! Sorry so late responding, I just saw this. Also, doing much better
now, and upping up there slowly:)
Thanks again ~ 
God bless,
Mama |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 232837
12/8/2007 3:07 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Well god bless the person who decides to try inhaling chlorine dioxide via nebulizer, even when diluted as Adam suggests, which is not homeopathic by any means or stretch of the imagination. Diluted does not mean homeopathic.
For an explanation of homeopathy see:
[link to www.healthsalon.org]
[link to www.healthsalon.org]
Saying that something is homeopathic may suggest a level of safety that may not at all be there. Homeopathy has the honor of the reputation as being the safest system of medicine ever developed. Diluted chorine dioxide is not homeopathic. Do not be mistaken.
Is it possible to make a homeopathic remedy from chlorine dioxide? Yes, but it would not serve the purpose that most people seek with this medicine and would afford little use to the vast majority of people. Chlorine dioxide as it is currently used falls into the category of allopathic medicine.
I would want inhaled chlorine dioxide trialed on animals before I went near it with a 10 foot pole. When it comes to your lungs you must use extreme caution. With orally ingested chlorine dioxide we already have a long history of use and safety.
Since it has been shown through testimonial that taking MMS orally brings relief to lung infection why would one want to inhale it? Just take it orally. Since the blood carrying the chlorine dioxide travels through the vascular system into the lungs what more do you need?
Again, I will repeat that nebulized colloidal silver has proven safe and effective if you feel that you really have to inhale something. Stick with known entities when it comes to your lungs. Quoting: Arrow
HOW MANY DAMN TIMES DO I NEED TO TELL YOU PEOPLE!
INHALING CLO2 IS ABSOLUTELY, UNEQUIVOCALLY DAMAGING TO THE NOSE AND LUNGS. CAN BE DEADY IF PROLONGED.
WAKE THE HELL UP YOU IDIOTS.
TAKE IT ORALLY (IN YOUR MOUTH) AS DIRECTED TO KILL PATHOGENS. ORALLY DOES NOT MEAN INTO YOUR NOSE.
IF YOU BREATHE IT IN, IT REACTS WITH MUCOUS MEMBRANES WHICH WILL WILL HURT YOU.
INHALING CLO2 HURTS YOU. IT IS BAD FOR YOU.
CAN I SAY THIS MORE SIMPLY? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 232837
12/8/2007 3:18 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
I read a question somewhere posted to Jim Humble. He stated that it would be alright to inhale it and to put a drop or two in your vaporizor.
truly. do not do this.
If Jim said this, then he was in error.
I am very familiar with sodium chlorite.
I am not telling you false information.
It will safely kill pathogens if ingested correctly.
Chlorine dioxide gas (which is what you smell after adding the vinegar/citric acid) in concentration will cause cataracts to form on the cornea.
Chlorine dioxide gas is VERY DAMAGING TO MUCOUS MEMBRANES.
these are facts people.
LEARN BEFORE USE.
I talked to Jim this week and, in one conversation, asked whether he ever suggested that it was safe to inhale chlorine dioxide. He could not recall whether he included it in his book (he did not... I did a word search in the electronic version and the words "inhale" or "breathe" do not occur anywhere in this context), but felt it could be helpful administered under the following conditions.
* The MMS has been mixed and activated.
* Water has been added... the amount that one would normally drink.
* The entire solution is then added to the water normally needed to operate a vaporizer
In this mixture the chlorine dioxide concentration is going to be much lower than "normal," and would produce what would best be described as a homeopathic effect.
The poster who said that chloride is very damaging to mucous membranes is correct, in certain concentrations. It would be damaging to all mucous membranes in the body if it were taken in concentrations that are normally used to treat water systems or disinfect a place contaminated with anthrax. However, the concentration he outlined is far weaker (more diluted) than "normal" ingestion doses. I did not ask him specifically, but it would make sense to only use one drop of MMS if you are drawn to trying this approach.
A~ Quoting: phaelosopher
this will be my last response on this point.
Jim is wrong. I have spoken with Jim myself (about a month ago), but I did not address this issue. I will try to call him this week and speak to him about the matter.
I have worked with sodium chlorite extensively in metallurgical applications for several years. An associate of mine worked with it in his lab also before I met him.
He suffered from both cataract problems and lung problems from not taking better precautions with lab ventilation.
-CLO2 (chlorite) gas is deceptive because it does not have a noticably harsh reaction to the body like chlorine gas, but IT DOES have a negative reaction when inhaled even in small concentrations.
Sodium chlorite just might be a miracle when ingested as directed, but it is not healthful as a vapour. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 337173
12/8/2007 10:18 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
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| Arrow
User ID: 305837
12/8/2007 2:58 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Quoting Arrow "I would want inhaled chlorine dioxide trialed on animals before I went near it with a 10 foot pole. When it comes to your lungs you must use extreme caution. With orally ingested chlorine dioxide we already have a long history of use and safety."
Anonymous Coward 232837,
I don't know why you are yelling at me.
|
| Yolo
User ID: 335248
12/8/2007 4:19 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Hulda Clark?
She is a heroine of mind. Her work is highly controversial, but for me, in my trials with chronic disease she had hit the nail on the head with her parasite protocols.
I was really into rife technology and I used 2 different rife machines, top notch best quality, almost daily for many months which barely made a dent in my levels of parasites. Clarks formulas did. Her book was like my bible at the time.
When my parasite levels went down the cancer levels went down too. This is part of the reason that I feel so optimistic for MMS. Testimonials are proving it out. I am hoping to see more good ones on cancer though. Perhaps in time. Quoting: Arrow
Arrow: I also have Hulda's books. I read her three big books over and over again (now she has more). It's true, she is famous for her parasite cleanses and her liver flushes, etc. I still do the liver flush, my husband and I flushed out MANY stones over the years and both of us saved a gallbladder. I also had a Rife machine, and never once saw a difference, even as a massage therapist, I used it on many and never saw any improvement as a result...This is not to say that others have not had more success, which I hope they have.
But this is where I'm going....Use the MMS in conjunction with a healing program. The MMS will, as you probably know, loosen the strangle-hold that parasites, viruses, mold, fungus, etc. have on us all, but it cannot rebuild the body, which is why we have parasites, etc. in the first place, because of either bad eating habits, no exercise, blockages, etc. I believe MMS will accellerate the process, and that it has its place, but it cannot rebuild the body. One would have to keep taking MMS for life. But if one uses it as a bridge, from what I have seen so far, I think it is and will be life-saving to many.
By the way, it's real easy for people to make up a fictitious name at the top when writing...it might add more credibility to what you have to say. I makes one question the credibility can an Anonymous Coward. |
| VonChillis
User ID: 308501
12/8/2007 6:44 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Inhaling MMS (ClO2)
I would wait until it's been studied. ClO2 fumes being inhaled even in small quantities < .1PPM are showing adverse affects.
[link to www.gasdetection.com]
There's more out there on this matter.
VonChillis
BTW This is why the FDA and medical professionals make laws against harmful drugs. Don't kill yourself or something and ruin it for the rest of us by using MMS incorrectly. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318314
12/9/2007 8:38 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Well god bless the person who decides to try inhaling chlorine dioxide via nebulizer, even when diluted as Adam suggests, which is not homeopathic by any means or stretch of the imagination. Diluted does not mean homeopathic.
For an explanation of homeopathy see:
[link to www.healthsalon.org]
[link to www.healthsalon.org]
Saying that something is homeopathic may suggest a level of safety that may not at all be there. Homeopathy has the honor of the reputation as being the safest system of medicine ever developed. Diluted chorine dioxide is not homeopathic. Do not be mistaken.
Is it possible to make a homeopathic remedy from chlorine dioxide? Yes, but it would not serve the purpose that most people seek with this medicine and would afford little use to the vast majority of people. Chlorine dioxide as it is currently used falls into the category of allopathic medicine.
I would want inhaled chlorine dioxide trialed on animals before I went near it with a 10 foot pole. When it comes to your lungs you must use extreme caution. With orally ingested chlorine dioxide we already have a long history of use and safety.
Since it has been shown through testimonial that taking MMS orally brings relief to lung infection why would one want to inhale it? Just take it orally. Since the blood carrying the chlorine dioxide travels through the vascular system into the lungs what more do you need?
Again, I will repeat that nebulized colloidal silver has proven safe and effective if you feel that you really have to inhale something. Stick with known entities when it comes to your lungs. Quoting: Arrow
With all due respect Arrow, I think testing products on animals is just plain heinous. I don't know if you have seen actual footage of what they due to animals during lab testing (not the cleaned up documentaries, but actual footage when they don't know they are being filmed), but it is horrible and barbaric. I have seen monkeys, dogs, cats, etc. with their brains peeled open, no anestheia, painful tumors all over their bodies, and even worse. That is why it is so important about monitoring who is allowed to "adopt" shelter pets, etc. I don't mean to preach, but after I saw what I saw, I wlil never condone such constant torture on an animal. Can you imagine having ongoing surgery for months on end, with no anesthesia? Your body parts constantly exposed to air, germs, and the pain? It is inhumane. We don't even treat mass murderers or child molestors like that. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318314
12/9/2007 8:47 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Hulda Clark?
She is a heroine of mind. Her work is highly controversial, but for me, in my trials with chronic disease she had hit the nail on the head with her parasite protocols.
I was really into rife technology and I used 2 different rife machines, top notch best quality, almost daily for many months which barely made a dent in my levels of parasites. Clarks formulas did. Her book was like my bible at the time.
When my parasite levels went down the cancer levels went down too. This is part of the reason that I feel so optimistic for MMS. Testimonials are proving it out. I am hoping to see more good ones on cancer though. Perhaps in time.
Arrow: I also have Hulda's books. I read her three big books over and over again (now she has more). It's true, she is famous for her parasite cleanses and her liver flushes, etc. I still do the liver flush, my husband and I flushed out MANY stones over the years and both of us saved a gallbladder. I also had a Rife machine, and never once saw a difference, even as a massage therapist, I used it on many and never saw any improvement as a result...This is not to say that others have not had more success, which I hope they have.
But this is where I'm going....Use the MMS in conjunction with a healing program. The MMS will, as you probably know, loosen the strangle-hold that parasites, viruses, mold, fungus, etc. have on us all, but it cannot rebuild the body, which is why we have parasites, etc. in the first place, because of either bad eating habits, no exercise, blockages, etc. I believe MMS will accellerate the process, and that it has its place, but it cannot rebuild the body. One would have to keep taking MMS for life. But if one uses it as a bridge, from what I have seen so far, I think it is and will be life-saving to many.
By the way, it's real easy for people to make up a fictitious name at the top when writing...it might add more credibility to what you have to say. I makes one question the credibility can an Anonymous Coward. Quoting: Yolo 335248
I believe this is specifically why Jim recommends taking the Paradophilus in conjunction with the MMS. The Paradophilus rebuild the immune system by replenishing the positive flora/bacteria, in a way that is way more powerful than any probiotic. I am on is right now, in preparation for the MMS, which I will start at the beginning of Jan. I am on 15 squirts, 3x a day. I never had a problem with BM's before, but I am having more now than ever. I have seen some parasites pieces in the stool and know something is going on, as I've have several die-off episodes (not horrible, just mild borderline diarrhea, mild nausea that lasts only a few minutes, mild cold symptoms that last only a few hours, fatigue, etc.) I'm hoping that by the time I get to Jan. that I will be at a theraputic does of the Paradophilus and can use it in conjunction with the MMS to have quicker results. Time is of the essence for me. I'm 41, with multiple health problems and I want to have a baby. Since I am 41, I don't have the luxury of doing this as slowly as many out there do. I am not going to push myself so much that I end up in bed for several days, but I can't putz around with it either. I didn't want to start the MMS during December, as we will be traveling and the thought of having diarrhea or vomiting while on a plane or traveling in a car wasn't exactly very appealing. |
| phaelosopher 
User ID: 329845
12/9/2007 9:53 AM
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Again, I will repeat that nebulized colloidal silver has proven safe and effective if you feel that you really have to inhale something. Stick with known entities when it comes to your lungs.
HOW MANY DAMN TIMES DO I NEED TO TELL YOU PEOPLE!
INHALING CLO2 IS ABSOLUTELY, UNEQUIVOCALLY DAMAGING TO THE NOSE AND LUNGS. CAN BE DEADY IF PROLONGED.
WAKE THE HELL UP YOU IDIOTS.
TAKE IT ORALLY (IN YOUR MOUTH) AS DIRECTED TO KILL PATHOGENS. ORALLY DOES NOT MEAN INTO YOUR NOSE.
IF YOU BREATHE IT IN, IT REACTS WITH MUCOUS MEMBRANES WHICH WILL WILL HURT YOU.
INHALING CLO2 HURTS YOU. IT IS BAD FOR YOU.
CAN I SAY THIS MORE SIMPLY? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 232837
I'm not drawn to inhaling ClO2 in any concentration. I'm also not advocating doing so. I wanted to clarify what Jim meant because the issue is subject to broad interpretation.
But who are you preaching to man? Your attitude and angry, insulting presentation is doing you more harm than ClO2 will ever do to anyone's lungs.
The people following this list are most likely (1) adults, (2) interested in finding out what works, (3) responsible for their own choices, and (4) capable of discerning what's best for themselves.
How credible do you think you are when you make such statements but don't back them up with any scientific evidence, nor even reveal yourself?
How open do you think someone is going to be if you're suggesting that they're stupid for not listening to YOU and heeding YOUR advice?
If a person is even moved to inhaling ClO2, they're likely dealing with something else that's truly causing them problems, and if the ClO2 only oxidizes pathogens when ingested, then why would it not do the same when taken through the nasal passages? If you disagree, that's okay. But explore the logic, intelligently instead of jamming your foot on the insult pedal.
I'm glad that's not my problem, and it is right to be circumspect and cautious, as Arrow suggests. I agree. But ultimately, what you do is not my business, and what I do is none of your business. The best we can do is offer our perspective as accurately as possible, then respect others' right to make their own choice. |
| Farmgirl
User ID: 307690
12/9/2007 11:25 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Bravo, Adam! There is no need for judgement and assumptions on this website. We are all benefiting from the sharing of our experiences and insight, and don't need to listen to someone spew their un-backed opinions :) |
| Yolo
User ID: 335248
12/9/2007 6:38 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Bravo, Adam! There is no need for judgement and assumptions on this website. We are all benefiting from the sharing of our experiences and insight, and don't need to listen to someone spew their un-backed opinions :) Quoting: Farmgirl 307690
Well-spoken.
PS Finally someone with a name other than Anonymous Coward! |
| Arrow
User ID: 305837
12/9/2007 7:14 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Well I got some paradophillus and tried it the other day and just don't know what to think. Unlike MMS I had some very strange reaction to it. I took 6 drops and went to bed. I experience motor neuron twitching all over my body so much so that I could not sleep. Also there were joint pains in my elbows and knees. I tossed and turned all night.
In the morning I felt just fine. Got ready for work and doing the usual moring mirror rituals I saw nothing unusual about my face. Before leaving for work I took another dose. When I got to work my coworker commented that there was an twitch in my face that she had never seen before. Went to the restroom to take a look and sure enough a little muscle on my cheek was just twitching away. I couldn't feel it. It passed in about an hour.
Did the paradophillus cause this? Was this some kind of healing reaction? Who knows. I've taken 2 more doses since and nothing happened. |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 338028
12/10/2007 8:14 AM
 | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
TIME FOR SOME MORE UPDATES AND TESTIMONIALS
IT IS STRANGE BUT CLEANING CRAP, LIVING DEAD AND SHIT REALLY CAUSES THE BODY REAL PROBLEMS, SHORT TERM.
TOXIC SHOCK CAN AND DOES KILL.
HENCE THE GOOD ADVICE TAKE IT SLOWLY
GL
greylensman@rocketmail.com |
| Arrow
User ID: 305837
12/10/2007 9:33 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
I would think twice before I took imodium for MMS induced diarrhea. This is a detox and you want that stuff to get out not to sit around for reabsorption and the bowels do reabsorb toxins....Hmmm, seems I just responded to a testimonial posted several pages back.. Oh, well. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 333742
12/11/2007 9:06 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
I ignored their advice to start with a drop and took what was probably the equivalent of 8-10 drops.. that was not fun.. but it sure did clean me out.
if you want to save some money, get some kefir grains and make your own probiotics.. no need to spend shitloads of money on overpriced supplements that do the same thing.
kefir made at home is the most concentrated and diverse source of probiotics that you'll ever come across. One 8 ounce glass can have several trillion active beneficial organisms, and if even only 1% survive the stomach (many more will survive when your intestines are in "cleanse mode" like they are when taking MMS) you've still got more then enough to recolonize with beneficial shit.
good luck. |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 338560
12/11/2007 9:07 AM
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ARROW, A GOOD POINT. I MUST ADMIT THAT AT TIMES I AM PERPLEXED BY PEOPLES INABILITY TO READ OR TO UNDERSTAND SIMPLE PRINCIPLES. HUMBLE MAKES IT VERY CLEAR, DEAD BUGS HAVE TO BE GOT RID OF, AND HOW THE BODY DOES IT.
A FEW YEARS BACK, BEFORE I KNEW BETTER, I HAD A RUN IN WITH THAT STUFF. TOOK ONE DOSE, NOTHING HAPPENED, SO TOOK ANOTHER THEN ANOTHER.
THEN GOT THE TOUGHEST CONSTIPATION YOU CAN IMAGINE. NEEDED TO BECOME A MATHEMATICIAN AND WORK IT OUT WITH A PENCIL.
GL
greylensman@rocketmail.com |
| Arrow
User ID: 305837
12/11/2007 12:42 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
ARROW, A GOOD POINT. I MUST ADMIT THAT AT TIMES I AM PERPLEXED BY PEOPLES INABILITY TO READ OR TO UNDERSTAND SIMPLE PRINCIPLES. HUMBLE MAKES IT VERY CLEAR, DEAD BUGS HAVE TO BE GOT RID OF, AND HOW THE BODY DOES IT.
A FEW YEARS BACK, BEFORE I KNEW BETTER, I HAD A RUN IN WITH THAT STIFF. TOOK ONE DOSE, NOTHING HAPPENED, SO TOOK ANOTHER THEN ANOTHER.
THEN GOT THE TOUGHEST CONSTIPATION YOU CAN IMAGINE. NEEDED TO BECOME A MATHEMATICIAN AND WORK IT OUT WITH A PENCIL.
GL Quoting: GREY LENSMAN
Grey, could you be a little more specific? You had a run in with who? what resulted in constipation?
Thanks,
Arrow |
| Arrow
User ID: 305837
12/11/2007 8:24 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
if you want to save some money, get some kefir grains and make your own probiotics.. no need to spend shitloads of money on overpriced supplements that do the same thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 333742
Almost all yogurt products give me indigestion including Keifer. My own homemade yogurt did not sit well either. Activia does not so I use that at times. I never found any probiotic pill that made any difference that I could tell but I've taken them anyway. I'm still doing this high priced paradophillus and I can feel the difference. No more weird symptoms. It is different than regular probiotics. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318314
12/11/2007 9:56 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Arrow, you asked about the Paradophilus. I think you just took too much on your first time out. The instructions are very specific, just as they are for the MMS - one spray, three times a day. If no problems, add one spray three times a day, working up to 45 sprays three times a day, but only at that dose if you have a serious illness and you stay at that dose for at least three months. I am at 17 sprays three times a day and I've had several days of leg cramps and let twitching. It's better now, but I'm sure it's all part of the process. What I've noticed most is that my tongue is almost completely pink again, after having a lot of white in it. I'm not following the no sugar diet and I'm sure I would be much farther along if I were following the diet. It's just impossible for me to do that during the holidays. I plan on the no sugar/carbs part when I start the MMS at the beginning of Jan. I also plan on staying on the Paradophilus while doing the MMS. One breaks down, the other rebuilds. I also am having more BM's which interestingly enough was never an issue for me. Just more stuff flushing out I guess. |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 338615
12/12/2007 1:03 AM
| | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
ARROW
I REFERRED TO YOUR
I would think twice before I took imodium for MMS induced diarrhea.
JUST TAKEN FIVE DROPS OF MMS IN CITRIC ACID WITH APPLE JUICE.
NEED TO WAIT THE TWO HOURS REACTION PERIOD TO DETERMINE WHAT IS HAPPENING.
WENT A NICE YELLOW COLOUR AND SMELLED JUST LIKE A SWIMMING POOL.
I HATE MESSING ABOUT. DRIP DRIP FIVE DROPS FOLLOWED BY DRIP DRIP 25 DROPS OR WAS THAT 26, DID I LOSE COUNT.
MY ONLY GROUSE SO FAR.
GL
greylensman@rocketmail.com |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 338987
12/12/2007 7:14 AM
| | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
SEVEN HOURS LATER
WTF
I AM STILL ALIVE AND KICKING
BUT SORRY ABOUT GRAPHICS BUT WE ARE TALKING BIO ENTITIES.
HUGE BROWN WINDSOR SOUP BUT NOT THE FLOATING KIND, SANK LIKE A STONE.
NO URGE NO RUSH JUST A FIREHOSE DISCHARGE.
SWEAT SMELLS A BIT, SO OFF TO THE SHOWER.
DEBATING 6 OR 10 DROPS TOMORROW.
MY PARTNER IN CRIME, PASSED OUT, SLEPT LIKE A BABY. JUST AFTER LUNCH.
THATS ALL TO REPORT ON DAY ONE.
GL
greylensman@rocketmail.com |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 339485
12/13/2007 8:00 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
SLEPT LIKE A ROCK.
MOVED MY LAB TO THE OFFICE.
IN THE MORNING SUNLIGHT MIXING SEVEN DROPS I NOTICED A WHITE CLOUD FORMING IN THE GLASS. THIS SPILLED OVER AND SPREAD ALONG MY DESK.
INTERESTING.
GL |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 339493
12/13/2007 8:14 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
My boyfriend came home from a trip to Bangkok.
Before he left I gave him a bottle of MMS and told him to take 3 or 4 drops (without activating) in a glass of water every day. He did for 2 weeks and felt great. He also used it for mosquito bites and again it worked great.
When he came home we both stopped taking MMS for a while because we had been on it for a month more or less with very good overall results.
After a week of not taking MMS we both got sick. The signs were pain in the kidneys, headaches, fevers and some vomiting.We took it as a stalled present from Bangkok.
We decided to start on the drops again. We took 3 (without activating) in the morning and immediately felt better. After a couple of hours the headaches were back and the fever started again. We took 2 more times 4 drops with the same result.
The next morning we were back to square one only a mild diarrhea was added to the list. I got fed up and took 10 drops of MMS in water and was cured of my sickness but had stomach cramps and diarrhea for 12 hours. My boyfriend preferred to stick to the 4 drops (because of the diarrhea) and was sick for two more days until I convinced him to take 10 drops which he did and was cured instantly although having diarrhea and vomiting from the MMS.
We both still have some diarrhea but are perfectly well again.
What was so incredible was that in the instant of taking MMS I could feel the headache and fever clearing immediately. It really works in acute situations. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 339493
12/13/2007 8:27 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
More testimonials;
I have posted in the past about my own story/recovery, so if it's ok I will just repeat them here in this email for now...
A friend first brought up drinking sodium chlorite in liters of water, mixed with "greens" (grass powder/veggie powder) about 4 years ago. (Sodium chlorite is the active ingredient in MMS). She kept mentioning it over and over to me, telling me how much it had helped her, and many, many others she knew.
I was pretty conservative, ate a SAD diet, and had very little experience with any holistic therapies. But, she was so enthusiastic, and she was a good friend, so I tried a liter with the drops and greens in it. (this was 5% sodium chlorite, so about 1/5 the strength of MMS).
Within the first hour of sipping this, I felt "high" ... I was at work at the firehouse, so this was not the best place to feel this way, lol ... I called up Darlene (my friend) and at first she couldnt believe it, but I described the way I felt and she agreed, yup, I was probably stoned.
We figured out, after thinking things over, that I had taken some anti-depressants and some anxiety meds about 8 to 12 mos before, and what had probably happened was a release/detox of stored meds from that prior time period ... so I had a REALLY nice, euphoric first two hours drinking NaClO2.
After that, I began to feel incredibly more energetic, and I started to drop weight. I became so convinced so early about this combination that I continued to drink liters of water with these 5% NaClO2 drops, mixed with about a teaspoon of dry grass powder/veggie powder, about 4 -5 of these per day. The more I drank, the more weight I lost, and the more my appetite/desires shifted to eat the healthy food that was being recommended to me ("alkaline diet"). It is almost as though the more pure my body became, the more I wanted to eat whole foods, green foods, etc....
In the first 4 months I noticed the following benefits:
- I lost 40lbs (although I had NOT been trying to lose weight)
- I began to look a LOT younger ... I was 39 then ... most people
would guess I was 28 - 29
- My eyes brightened a TON ... they went from tired and dull, to bright green ... for the first time in my life, people would comment about my eyes...lol
- Little skin problems cleared up ... itchiness, skin health, etc...
- My dandruff disappeared and my scalp stopped itching.
- I finally slept soundly; I had always awoken tired, and would have trouble waking up even by 7 or 8 in the morning; now, I could go to bed at 11pm, and I would ALWAYS pop awake at 4:30 or 5am, ready to go, and not be tired again until the next night.
- My snoring/sleep apnea just WENT away ... I had been tested in a hospital sleep study center, and I would stop breathing about 30 times per hour.
- My allergies (seasonal, food, environmental) just WENT away ... after years of suffering, and trying every OTC med known to man.
- My STRONG desires for sweets/carbs just WENT away (and when I say desires here, I mean pure LUST)
- My mind cleared up ... for the first time really since high school I felt like I had my brain back ... it was wonderful; I started writing again, poetry and stories, I started studying new subjects, etc...
- My energy level and my stamina continued to skyrocket ... I would take my soccer ball down to the park, in the 98 degree heat of July, and play with the 16 year old soccer players until they wore out. Then I would go for a run.
- My patience, tolerance and love for others increased.
It was INCREDIBLE. I remember telling friends after about 4 mos. (in all humility, lol) that I felt like I could bend steel with my bare hands. And the energy, the strength, the endurance, and clarity of thought and expression all felt holistic, natural and good.
I'm sure there were many more things ... it is difficult to recall it all...but I remember that it basically gave me my life back.
I hope this helps; maybe I will post it again.
Please take care,
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Some more experiences, mostly from curezone
We mix the drops and citric acid, leave
for 3 minutes and then add home made apple juice. It is better than
taking it straight, but not easy.
The good news is that my saliva is returning after 5 years
of "incurable" Sjogren's syndrome, my warts have fallen off, my
chronic eye infection seems to be nearly gone and many other signs of
healing after only 32 days. It is very exciting. We just have to
put one foot in front of the other and keep doing the best we can.
Yesterday I had a bad migraine and resorted to a coffee enema, which
I haven't done in months. I just take it one day at a time and trust
God, regardless of the outcome. So far, the MMS seems to be healing
things that NOTHING else has been able to reach.
My husband Vic (he has prostate cancer and chronic infections) just
feels exhausted on the MMS. But there is color in his face. He has
had an awful yellow look to his skin for years, but now it is a
lovely pink. I believe he is going through some major "critter" kill
and detox. We keep waiting for the "loads of energy" stage that
others talk about. I do believe it will come as we kill the bugs.
Check out this website. [link to www.miraclems.com]
These are people we know. The writer, Chris Smith, was almost dead a
few months ago. He has been battling a very aggressive cancer for
over 8 years. Since going on the MMS looks, sounds and feels so much
better.
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I have been using MMS for MS symptoms just over 2 months and am seeing things which I love. For now what about the reduction of the skin lymph glands? I think this is a major sign of what may be happening inside all the other organs and glands. I had enlarged lymph below my breasts, under my arms and stomach. My holistic dr said they were swollen lymph glands. The computer allergist specialist said they had strep, mold and other virus and bacterial overloads. These glands are a part of the skin and look like fat deposits. I have had lymph massage drainage and this helped but nothing permanent. They the Lymph deposits on my trunk underarms, and lower stomach look like they are disolving. I also have small tumors around these lymph glands and they are too getting smaller. Does anyone know of anyone else with this experience. I think if it is doing this to my outsides it is also doing this to my pancreas, bowels (are loaded with glands, immune glands,)Brain in MS, and thyroid one side was swollen last week when I saw the dentist. I am also regaining better function with my Lungs. I would appreciate any support on this issue. Links experiences ect. Thank You
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My experience with MMS has been so pleasant; I am on my second go. The first was about a 10-day trial, and then I got nervous about taking it, so I stopped. However, with this start I am having nothing but great feelings of health. Today I am at 5 drops with lemon and I take it 2 x per day. One of the coolest feelings has been in my brain area. A feeling of tingling, like a clearing sensation.
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I have used MMS for symptoms of Multiple Sclerosis for almost 2 months. I am getting symptom relief. Has anyone else with Multiple Sclerosis been using MMS protocol? Have you experience any symptom relief?
I can see natural signs that I attribute to less Mercury, pathogens, yeast and mold (old hard sore's are healing and soft) No longer have digestive problems and breathing is much better. Lymph glands are getting softer and I am losing weight.
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So many people found it hard to believe my many improvements it is nice to see you experienced much the same improvements. I am excited and looking forward every day. I have MS and am walking away from it one symptom at a time. I have followed a holistic protocol for many years but couldn't get that last bit of recovery. I think the Metals,spores, toxin plaques, virus, bacteria and pathogenic mold and yeast overloads were just to deep for the treatments to get to. I did ozone, chelation. vitamin therapy. Which lightened the load. The MMS seems to have lowered the counts quickly and I will do it until I know the last spore is dead.
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I'm using MMS for Lyme. I started it on 10/4/07, worked up to 15 drops 2x a day, am & pm. When I experienced no nausea or diarrhea, I began to wonder if it was doing anything. Well, 15 drops 2x day didn't last long. Walking got more difficult, started taking 2 hr naps, lots of pain in jaw/teeth/neck area and down spine, swelling in cheek, nerves in limbs screaming. Agony everywhere! Well, maybe not everywhere. It just felt like everywhere. But at least it became obvious it wasn't doing nothing. Dropped back drastically on # of drops and some days went off entirely. Dropped salt/vit c protocol and supplements. I couldn't think what to take or not to take or when to take it and couldn't keep track even when I tried.
What I think is happening is that the MMS got to the spine where the dastardly little beasties had been successfully hiding out escaping the salt/vit c. I also consider this experience further confirmation that it was dental work that provided the major opportunity for this invasion. (If it hadn't been for our 'state of the art' American medical profession I'm sure I could have negotiated this life much more successfully. Grrr!!) Anyway, I'm still miserable. but plodding on. Presently doing 15 drops once a day. Would like to try fewer drops at a time and more often during the day, but the taste/smell grosses me out so that I prefer to do it once and get it over with. I also added to my misery by using the Indian Herb, (otherwise known as black salve) recommended by Jim Humble on a couple of little crusty spots on my skin which, judging from how angrily they are reacting, I'm now convinced they are skin cancers. I also got the life-line water from the Indian Herb lady in hopes it will help hydrate as she says it will. So the experiment goes on.
Thanks to all of you for being here.
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I also experienced that same thing using MMS for lyme. I worked to 15 drops twice a day and was fine for a while and started to notice fatigue and nausea building and stopped the mms after about a month. It became tough to tollerate the mms. 5 days later I started it up again because the fatigue worsened. 4 days after that i started feeling ok again. At 10 drops a day I leveled off as it was to much to go to 15 drops again. I finished half the bottle and have stopped for now. Most of the infections I have had are gone. After dermal testing the lyme was gone also but may be dormant. I had a lyme test three weeks ago to verify that I have beaten the bug.
If MMS can beat lyme this would be god sent.
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I have reported before that MMS made my breathing easier. Here's what
happened last night.
I was born with asthma. Had it all through my childhood and though I
outgrew it as a young adult it left my lungs compromised--meaning that if I exerted myself I wouldn't be able to breath deep. There were many times that I'd still have asthmatic spells of short duration. If I was in a damp environment it would be hard for me to breath.
I started taking MMS, only 6 drops a day. I noticed better breathing in
just 2 days, but in only less than 3 weeks I am now able to breath all the way to lung capacity. I can fill my lungs completely with air and not cough or have that catch that happens. And last night I went to a concert held in an underground cave. It was quite a ways down--and going down is always easy. ;-) But coming up, I pushed myself to keep up with the group as we were leaving so as not to block anyone behind me.
When I got to the surface I had to sit down and catch my breath for 3 to 4 minutes before breathing slowed down to normal. BUT--the whole time I was puffing and panting was just from being physically out of shape and had nothing to do with my lungs,because I, miraculously was breathing deeply, filling my lungs, no catching,no heat/pain in the lungs from exertion, no coughing. I was pretty darn impressed!! That has never happened to me before in my life.
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Although I remain a big supporter/believer in MMS and what it can accomplish in the body,
I am going to go off it for a while (at least.) At only 6 drops once a day, it seems the MMS is
neutralizing blood sugar and blood pressure medication because both are going up.
I have been feeling more pain and other all-over crappy feelings, easily stressed out, with
palpetations at times.
My bp has been inching up steadily with no change in medicine. I have had my blood sugar medicine
changed because the one I was on was causing pitting edema. It seems that the new medicines have
had no effect since I was on the MMS at the time of changing.
Since I feel so bad, I am dropping the MMS and continuing with other good supplements.
Hopefully, this will help.
Just a "heads up" to those on medication.
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My son introduced a friend (55 y.o.) to MMS - he has an hereditary cancerous bowel condition requiring 6 monthly colonoscopies and diathermy of cancerous polyps (up to 40 each time), and after 3 weeks of MMS (as per protocol) his doctor has declared him to have a “clean bowel” and doesn’t need to see him for at least 2 years. The same man also had a PSA reading which has increased sharply over the past 12 months, up to the point of recently being scheduled in for surgery for prostate cancer, something he did NOT want to do. After 10 days
of MMS, his reading has come down into the normal range, and so amazed his doctor, the doctor has demanded to see all the literature he has on MMS! The patient, of course, is very happy that he didn’t need the operation after the MMS.
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Hubby quit taking his MMS for a couple of days because it was upsetting his tummy even more than it usually is, but even so, in that two-day period, he was able to "go" without taking any laxatives or senna tea for the first time in YEARS! It's the first clear proof we've had that it's really working. It might not seem like a big deal for most people but we're in shock.
He's gone back to taking it, starting tonight, and I think that he's beside himself that finally, after all this time, money, useless doctors and their endless tests and running around trying one thing after another, *something* is making a real difference.
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My main problem is severe systemic candida. I started taking MMS about 4 weeks ago and gradually increased dosage from 2 drops to 15 drops. I have been taking MMS 15 drops 1x per day at bed time for the last three weeks.
MMS worked like magic. It killed a ton of candida (I can see this from the loose and fuzzy stools I passed). My candida symptoms are much better now. I have much more energy. But the battle is not over yet. I still have candida in me and still have candida symptoms.
I plan to take MMS 15 drops 3x per day starting today and stay at the dosage until I am candida free.
Because of my candida condition, I am very sensitive to food. I can only tolerate meat, non-starchy vegetables, and oils. The only foods I am currently eating right now are chicken, fish, shrimp, vegetables, coconut oil, olive oil.
I'd like to switch to a more alkalizing diet. I'd like to stop eating meat. Anybody please help! Any ideas on a balanced candida diet that is more alkalizing? I'd like to stop eating meat if there are alternatives.
Thank you!!
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I agree with you about the lower doses. Especially for chronic long term illness. I have only taken MMS for two months I feel successful in stopping MS symptoms. I didn't really want either the big D or the Big V so I split my doses into 5 and increased the drops slowly. OPINION>I went slowly because of the toxic plaques which I now believe may be located in all our glands, organs, bowels and arteries. I think they need to disolve and the attachment areas need to heal AT THE LOW DOSE. I now am trying to drop back to three or four doses and get more drops each time. Anything to keep those critters off balance. I DO SEE BENEFITS IN KEEPING GOOD LEVELS OF MMS THROUGHOUT THE DAY. I am excited by the rapid success. I am delighted by unexpected improvements. I hoped but some things had been with me so long and deep that I could only hope. I am so thankful to find such a supportive and kind site to share with. Keep up the good work. Surprises, skin, lymph swelling,edema,nails, lungs, spasms, balance, endurance, kidney, bladder weight DROPPED 12 LBS AND NO DIET. I AM EATING MY REGULAR FARE. I DON'T SEEM TO HAVE THE APPETITE I USED TO HAVE BEFORE MMS.
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Your treatments are ditto for me however I suffer w/ chronic fatigue syndrome
I believe that the mms is pushing back the infections... I have seen good results in the short time I have taken it.
I have read that viruses are implicated in MS and of course CFS is a multitude of infections, so I think until the primary infections are destroyed we are not going anywhere. Using medical grade ozone was one of the best therapies I ever did, unfortunately circumstances beyond my control prevented me from completing the course. Since chlorine dioxide falls into the same category as ozone as an oxidative therapy I welcome taking my drops. The benefit of Chlorine Dioxide is that it is not quite as oxidizing as ozone or peroxide and apparently has a more selective ability than other oxidative therapies for pathogen destruction.
I have worked on my issue for a very long time, it is my opinion that many chronic diseases are pathogenic based and these show themselves in diverse ways such as MS CFS etc. These pathogens create a environment (by disrupting proper cellular function) that make us dysfunctional. So if we eliminate the offending pathogens we can restore cell function.
In addition to the MMS I do multiple supplements including high Vit C, B complex, E, A/ mineral supplementation // antioxidants // herbals etc etc etc.
day 1 1 drop
day 2 2 drops
day 3 6 drops
day 4 8 drops
day 5 12 drops
day 6 16 drops
day 7 22 drops (big D)
day 8 rest
day 9 rest
day 10 14 drops
day 11 14 drops
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I felt MMS was really helping the dizziness and the scalp sores (and painful teeth and receding gums got better when brusing with it) but I stopped taking the oral doses when I hit major nausea at an increased 9 drops after diarrhea for a few days on 8 drops. I did not know not to increase if I was having diarrhea. Lesson learned. As I mentioned, I plan to continue MMS after I go through some cleansing and other things. I will continue to use it for my teeth. |
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