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| Anonymous Coward
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12/13/2007 1:52 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Is tihs thread still active? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 339792
12/13/2007 9:12 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
YES |
| Hard Water 
~Waiting~
User ID: 296954
12/13/2007 9:46 PM
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O.K....journeying back to the intestinal fluke...I was wondering if anyone has used the MMS in an enema? I would think that would really kill your intestinal parasites, no? I was actually thinking of doing a juice "fast" after the 1st of the year while using the MMS (am at 10 drops 2x a day now and hope to be up to the 15 drops 2 or 3 times a day then). I know from previous fasting experience that it is very important to keep the bowel moving, thus enemas and colonics are often used after the 2nd or 3rd day.
What are some of you more experienced MMSers thoughts on the enema and/ or the fasting with the MMS?
"There are two kinds of light--the glow that illuminates, and the glare that obscures." ~ James Thurber
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| Arrow
User ID: 305837
12/13/2007 10:16 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
People are passing parasites without using enemas of MMS. They are also having remarkable healing to the bowels through oral administration. I don't think that it is necessary. |
| BelgianBoy
User ID: 207955
12/14/2007 3:06 AM
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I have been taking MMS since about two weeks ago.
I went from 2 drops twice daily to 4, then 6 etc.
I did experience the flu-like symptoms and the cold-like bouts. Breathing seemed to improve. After a week I was on 10 drops and hit the ceiling with severe diarhea. I lowered intake but diarhea remained. I then stopped alltogether and started to suffer from abdominal pains. This has been going on for a couple of days now. I lost appetite and couldn't eat well for 2 days in a row. I just didn't feel hungry. I had bouts of fever. Strangely with ups and downs: 37,5°Celsius (I'm in europe !) in the moring, then no fever at noon then up again to 37,8°c in the evening, and this during 3 days.
Today I ate again with normal appetite and can feel my bowels getting active (again). The pain has subdued. I wonder what happened. Could I have catched something? There is a lot of gastro-enteritis going on in Belgium lately. Could it be connected? Or is it a reaction to MMS?
I wonder if I should start on MMS again...
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| GREY LENSMAN
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12/14/2007 11:36 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
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| BelgianBoy
User ID: 207955
12/14/2007 1:08 PM
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I agree GL. I do have to say: the first week was great. Sinuses cleared, no snotty nose in the morning. Breathing was way easier (I'm a smoker, been all my life!). I could "feel" this thing work.
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| Maureen
User ID: 340087
12/14/2007 3:13 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
If you don't want to try MMS then try some energy medicine of the tapping kind. Look on web for Gary Craig, Emotional Freedom technique or Donna Eden Energy Medicine. Don't knock it till you've tried it.
Headaches can be a sign that we have suppressed anger, we need to deal with issues kept buried within us. We think we've dealt with something but physically we have a problem. EFT will help to shift the energy and relieve the pain. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 333742
12/14/2007 6:06 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
I have been taking MMS since about two weeks ago.
I went from 2 drops twice daily to 4, then 6 etc.
I did experience the flu-like symptoms and the cold-like bouts. Breathing seemed to improve. After a week I was on 10 drops and hit the ceiling with severe diarhea. I lowered intake but diarhea remained. I then stopped alltogether and started to suffer from abdominal pains. This has been going on for a couple of days now. I lost appetite and couldn't eat well for 2 days in a row. I just didn't feel hungry. I had bouts of fever. Strangely with ups and downs: 37,5°Celsius (I'm in europe !) in the moring, then no fever at noon then up again to 37,8°c in the evening, and this during 3 days.
Today I ate again with normal appetite and can feel my bowels getting active (again). The pain has subdued. I wonder what happened. Could I have catched something? There is a lot of gastro-enteritis going on in Belgium lately. Could it be connected? Or is it a reaction to MMS?
I wonder if I should start on MMS again... Quoting: BelgianBoy
I went from never using MMS to taking 6 drops twice in a 24 hour period, which was enough to keep me in a state of chronic diarrhea for 4 full days before my stools actually started to become solid again. My suggestion is to simply decrease your dosage and take it more slowly.
Taking so much that you puke can worsen the gag reflex response to using it over time and make you want to use it even less, as your body begins to associate that smell with puking and nausea. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 324412
12/14/2007 7:16 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Is this in any way similar to the actions claimed by the vinegar and baking soda method of clearing?
Here is the Chemistry workup from an MMS page dedicated to the subject;
[link to bioredox.mysite.com]
And where would be the place to obtain the material?
Best wishes to all .. |
| baby
User ID: 340206
12/14/2007 8:00 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
I became aware of MMS on www.beating-cancer-gently.com. I listened to the audio with the author and thought, this stuff makes perfect sense. I've read both e-books and listened to four audios by now. It took me 23 days as I recall to get to 15 drops three times a day for one full week as the author recommends in FAQs on www.miraclemineral.org. I am on the maintenance dose of 4-6 drops at bedtime. We have a lemon tree so I use lemon juice to activate. It's going to be a good New Year. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 333742
12/14/2007 8:03 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
it's not going to work for everyone because not everyone is truely sick.. if you're one that takes 15 drops a day twice a day and doesn't get sick, you're probably healthy enough where you don't even need to taken it and any perceived illnesses you think you might have are just in your head.
It's the people who get reactions from just 2 or 3 drops that should keep taking it as it's clearly found things in the body that need to be taken care of. |
| Yolo
User ID: 335248
12/14/2007 8:40 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Hi:
I first started MMS at 15 right off the bat. I dove in because I had a urinary tract infection and did not want to take antibiotics...If you've had a UTI, you'll understand. It worked. The next day it was gone. But I was motivated to do this with my little brother who has/had hepatitis C, and it has appeared to clear from his body. He went to the doctor after taking it for one week, and his doctor told him his bilirubin was completely normal. A couple of things I've noticed with taking the MMS.
1) My body temperature is higher. Sometimes I get pretty hot in instances where I used to be cold.
2) I had a spot on my cheek that I knew was skin cancer, but I was going the natural route in getting rid of it. I tried a real small dab of black salve, and it didn't get all of it, and I was going to try it again when I decided to see what the MMS would to. Sure enough, it's now gone. I did help it out though by putting a little raw garlic on it, it burned a little, then turned into a small scab and then fell completely off. You can hardly tell now.
3) My family and friends who I have gotten on the MMS have a lot of diarrhea, but I've had very little.
4) The second day of starting the MMS (at 15 drops), I had a really bad bout of nausea. I tried to ignore it, but it was persistent. Then I thought back to when I mixed the MMS, and I couldn't remember even putting in the Citric Acid. I think I mixed it with plain water without the Citric Acid...Duh! Yes, I did finally throw up really hard, green bile, etc., but then I felt like a million bucks and haven't thrown up since. My mother threw up once at eight drops, but felt great afterwards also. The throwing up does not seem to ruin your day.
5) FASTING? I've done a LOT of (juice) fasting in my day, and I fully believe in its power to heal the body. If you are to fast at the same time as taking the MMS, I would remember that fasting will INTENSIFY the effects of the MMS. This is not to say that that's not good, only stronger and more powerful. Fasting seems to empower a lot of things. What I'm saying is that if you are juice fasting while taking MMS, although you may be taking 15 drops at a time, it will act like 30 drops per se in the body. When the body is not disturbed by the digestion process, it goes right to work on disease, etc, so a person could have a very powerful herxheimer reaction while fasting and taking MMS. Just something to think of.
6) Lastly, my little brother's dog, a miniature Doberman, came down with Parvo. The doctor gave her a less than 20% chance to live. My brother gave her the MMS, and she got over the Parvo. It's a beloved pet. They all cried tears of joy. The vet said that the little dogs have an even harder time getting over Parvo than the big dogs.
God bless... |
| Yolo
User ID: 335248
12/14/2007 8:56 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
UP TO TEN DRIPS. COUNTING THE CITRIC ACID DROPS IS LIKE COUNTING SHEEP. 10 REQUIRES 50 AND AS I AM MIXING TWO DOSES>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
SEEMS TO BE ON DEATHS DOORSTEP.
GONE THE OTHER WAY, CONSTIPATED.
LOOKING BACK OVER OTHERS EXPERIENCES, ALL SEEM TO HAVE DIFFERENT REACTIONS.
I THINK THATS BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH SHIT AROUND MOST PEOPLE HAVE A COMPLEX COCKTAIL OF INFECTIONS AND INFESTATIONS ALONG WITH VARYING TOXICITY.
ONE COMMON THEME OVER ALL HEALTH PROTOCLOS IS THAT CLEANING CRAP OUT, HURTS. ITS A PAINFUL PROCESS.
SEE HOW I FEEL IN THE MORNING. IF GOOD I AM UP TO 15. NEED TO CALIBRATE NY DROPPER.
GL Quoting: GREY LENSMAN 340007
Gray,
Instead of counting out 75 drops each time (for 15 drops of MMS), I would count out the number of Citric Acid drops into a measuring spoon or tablespoon and use that amount each time. It's true that counting that amount out each time is very time-consuming. Mr. Humble does it this way in one of his videos. I also read one of his question and answers regarding the MMS. Mr. Humble said it was okay to go over on the Citric Acid, but not the MMS. So, if you go over a little bit with the Citric Acid, no harm done. I don't measure it exactly. I calculate approximately six droppers full is approximately 75 drops, and it seems to work fine for me. Sometimes I'll squirt in a little extra of the Citric acid in case I didn't use enough.
Merry Christmas... |
| Yolo
User ID: 335248
12/14/2007 9:17 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
O.K....journeying back to the intestinal fluke...I was wondering if anyone has used the MMS in an enema? I would think that would really kill your intestinal parasites, no? I was actually thinking of doing a juice "fast" after the 1st of the year while using the MMS (am at 10 drops 2x a day now and hope to be up to the 15 drops 2 or 3 times a day then). I know from previous fasting experience that it is very important to keep the bowel moving, thus enemas and colonics are often used after the 2nd or 3rd day.
What are some of you more experienced MMSers thoughts on the enema and/ or the fasting with the MMS? Quoting: Hard Water
Hard Water:
Thinking about your question regarding fasting, MMS'ing and enemas. I'm a big advocate with juice fasting, big on the carrots, beets, greens, etc. You can juice fast indefinitely. It's very powerful. Juice fasting ALONE will throw you into a big toxic release, but then you add MMS, and you'll be climbing the walls provided you are not pretty cleaned out already, i.e. a lot of previous fasting, etc. It can still be done, but I would suggest going easy if you're in a pretty toxic condition, because the fasting will empower anything you take, and you'll be using two very power weapons to detox, and it can be pretty painful if you're not used to it. About an enema, I wouldn't even consider MMS by enema unless I absolutely was not getting the results I wanted by taking it by mouth. Anything that goes in rectally, goes right into the bloodstream as well as the liver. That is a powerful tool for healing, but like someone else has already suggested, I wouldn't go that route unless taking it by mouth has failed in some way.
Jim Humble states that a person really needs to get to 15 drops in order to get at parasites. Taking that amount for a deliberate amount of time, I would think that would accomplish all you're desiring.
Have a good one... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319912
12/14/2007 9:58 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
My boyfriend came home from a trip to Bangkok.
Before he left I gave him a bottle of MMS and told him to take 3 or 4 drops (without activating) in a glass of water every day. He did for 2 weeks and felt great. He also used it for mosquito bites and again it worked great.
When he came home we both stopped taking MMS for a while because we had been on it for a month more or less with very good overall results.
After a week of not taking MMS we both got sick. The signs were pain in the kidneys, headaches, fevers and some vomiting.We took it as a stalled present from Bangkok.
We decided to start on the drops again. We took 3 (without activating) in the morning and immediately felt better. After a couple of hours the headaches were back and the fever started again. We took 2 more times 4 drops with the same result.
The next morning we were back to square one only a mild diarrhea was added to the list. I got fed up and took 10 drops of MMS in water and was cured of my sickness but had stomach cramps and diarrhea for 12 hours. My boyfriend preferred to stick to the 4 drops (because of the diarrhea) and was sick for two more days until I convinced him to take 10 drops which he did and was cured instantly although having diarrhea and vomiting from the MMS.
We both still have some diarrhea but are perfectly well again.
What was so incredible was that in the instant of taking MMS I could feel the headache and fever clearing immediately. It really works in acute situations. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 339493
I wonder what would compel this person to take the MMS without activating it. Is this an alternative protocol that has been discussed previously. I thought activation was a necessary part of the process. |
| VonChillis
User ID: 308501
12/14/2007 11:32 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
My boyfriend came home from a trip to Bangkok.
Before he left I gave him a bottle of MMS and told him to take 3 or 4 drops (without activating) in a glass of water every day. He did for 2 weeks and felt great. He also used it for mosquito bites and again it worked great.
When he came home we both stopped taking MMS for a while because we had been on it for a month more or less with very good overall results.
After a week of not taking MMS we both got sick. The signs were pain in the kidneys, headaches, fevers and some vomiting.We took it as a stalled present from Bangkok.
We decided to start on the drops again. We took 3 (without activating) in the morning and immediately felt better. After a couple of hours the headaches were back and the fever started again. We took 2 more times 4 drops with the same result.
The next morning we were back to square one only a mild diarrhea was added to the list. I got fed up and took 10 drops of MMS in water and was cured of my sickness but had stomach cramps and diarrhea for 12 hours. My boyfriend preferred to stick to the 4 drops (because of the diarrhea) and was sick for two more days until I convinced him to take 10 drops which he did and was cured instantly although having diarrhea and vomiting from the MMS.
We both still have some diarrhea but are perfectly well again.
What was so incredible was that in the instant of taking MMS I could feel the headache and fever clearing immediately. It really works in acute situations.
I wonder what would compel this person to take the MMS without activating it. Is this an alternative protocol that has been discussed previously. I thought activation was a necessary part of the process. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 319912
If you've read JH's books. This is how he first discovered the affects of sodium chlorite. The helper who contracted malaria after drinking the high concentrate of water with sodium chlorite felt better but the mixture did not quite kill all the parasite. JH later discovered that it was the chlorine dioxide that was doing the work. There must be some ClO2 produced once the still suspended, undissolved sodium chlorite mixes with stomach juices. Just a guess anyway.
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| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 340375
12/15/2007 6:26 AM
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RIGHT
THE APPLIANCE OF SCIENCE. A GOOD SQUEEZE OF THE DROPPER LOADS APPROX 25 DRIPS, SO I USE THAT AS THE COUNTER. GATHERED A BIT EXTRA CITRIC ACID IS OK.
THE POINT THAT IF YOU TAKE IT AND NOTHING HAPPENS, THEN YOU HAVE NOTHING DOES NOT GEL WITH ME.
I HAVE ME, SINCE ABOUT 1980, WHEN I HAD A YELLOW FEVER JAB. I ALSO HAVE MERCURY TOXICITY AND SIX MONTHLY BRONCHITIS. MY SENSIBLE VARIED DIET HAS NO DOUBT KEPT ME GOING AND SAVED MY LIFE.
AT THIS DOSE LEVEL NOTHING BUT ENHANCED PAIN. NO TANGIBLE POSITIVE RESULTS YET BUT I FEEL A HELL OF A LOT OF ISSUES TO FIX.
ALL WESTERN PEOPLE HAVE MERCURY, ALUMINIUM, LEAD, MTBE, FLUORIDE, ASPARTAME, SODIUM NITRITE, PLASTIC FATS, POISONING ALONG WITH GLYCO PHOSPHATE, TARTRAZINE, AND DEAD CEREALS AND MANY OTHER TOXINS
THEY ALSO HAVE DEFICIENCIES IN MAGNESIUM, VITAMIN C, IODINE, SATURATED FAT, OMEGA 6 AND FIBRE AS A MINIMUM.
NO WONDER WHEN YOU START SORTING IT OUT, BOTH THE SYMPTOMS AND THE REACTIONS CAN VARY SO VERY MUCH.
TODAY, I WAS WONDERING IF CILANTRO PESTO OR JUICE WOULD HELP THIS PROTOCOL ALONG. IT STRIPS HEAVY METALS FROM THE BODY AND OTHER TOXINS. SEARCH THE CILANTRO THREADS. EVEN MADE UP A CHICKEN RECIPE FOR IT.
GL
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340374
12/15/2007 7:00 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
ALL WESTERN PEOPLE HAVE MERCURY, ALUMINIUM, LEAD, MTBE, FLUORIDE, ASPARTAME, SODIUM NITRITE, PLASTIC FATS, POISONING ALONG WITH GLYCO PHOSPHATE, TARTRAZINE, AND DEAD CEREALS AND MANY OTHER TOXINS
THEY ALSO HAVE DEFICIENCIES IN MAGNESIUM, VITAMIN C, IODINE, SATURATED FAT, OMEGA 6 AND FIBRE AS A MINIMUM.
so why do western ppl live longer!??? |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 340375
12/15/2007 7:12 AM
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THEY DONT
YOU ALSO ASSUME THAT LONGER LIFE EQUALS HEALTHIER, IT DOES NOT.
MOST INCREASES IN LONGER LIFE SPAN ARE DUE TO CLEAN WATER AND IMPROVED SANITATION.
ITS ALL DOWNHILL FROM THERE.
INSTEAD YOU SHOULD ASK YOURSELF THIS
"WHY IS MEDICINE THE BIGGEST BUSINESS IN AMERICA"
I FORGOT FROM MY LIST
MYCOPLASMAS.
MY WONDER IS. WHEN WE CAN REALLY SOLVE THESE ISSUES, IGNORING THE SPIRITUAL ELEMENT, JUST HOW LONG CAN WE REALLY LIVE
GL
greylensman@rocketmail.com |
| VonChillis
User ID: 308501
12/15/2007 10:20 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Another Update.
My friend that was treating his cat, Dublin, reported earlier this week that Dublin had died. He said the MMS had substantially reduced the size of the tumors. His guess was by about 70%. Dublin's treatment was started when the vet. told him Dublin probably wouldn't live more than a week or two. My friend thought the MMS was responsible for the extra two months of life due to the reduction in cancer tumors. Almost overnight Dublin became paralyzed and my friend decided to euthanize the pet to end it's suffering. His vet thought it was some kind of bone cancer and was surprised at Dublin's health considering the diagnosis two months earlier. Maybe we got to Dublin just too late. Who knows.
VonChillis |
| VonChillis
User ID: 308501
12/15/2007 10:53 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
THEY DONT
YOU ALSO ASSUME THAT LONGER LIFE EQUALS HEALTHIER, IT DOES NOT.
MOST INCREASES IN LONGER LIFE SPAN ARE DUE TO CLEAN WATER AND IMPROVED SANITATION.
ITS ALL DOWNHILL FROM THERE.
INSTEAD YOU SHOULD ASK YOURSELF THIS
"WHY IS MEDICINE THE BIGGEST BUSINESS IN AMERICA"
I FORGOT FROM MY LIST
MYCOPLASMAS.
MY WONDER IS. WHEN WE CAN REALLY SOLVE THESE ISSUES, IGNORING THE SPIRITUAL ELEMENT, JUST HOW LONG CAN WE REALLY LIVE
GL Quoting: GREY LENSMAN
I agree! Big Pharma has aways targeted symptoms and not cures. I feel they would love to have us all "Controllably sick" so they could sell life long regimes of medication. Guess what, they're are pretty good at what they do. Look at Merck in NJ forcing vaccinations on pre-schoolers. This kind of government involvement should be fought tooth and nail. We should never allow anyone the power to force medication on us. It's bad enough we're given choices of "Unproven" medications to choose from i.e. Phen-Phen, Vioxx and the like but at least it's OUR choice not someone elses.
Spirituality? That's already being suppressed. You might be right GL. Big Pharma might already be aware that a spiritual relationship with God or anything else could cause cures for many ailments. I'm sure they would consider that a liability. Do you suppose that if someone like Jesus Christ went around curing people Big Pharma would just stand by idly and watch? They'd probably "Crucify" him.
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| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 340432
12/15/2007 11:17 AM
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VC
I AGREE, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE "THREE SCORE AND TEN" WAS A BIT OF PROGRAMMING WRITTEN INTO THE OLD TESTAMENT.
THE HUMAN BODY IS A VERY WELL OILED MACHINE AND FUNCTIONS EVEN UNDER MASSIVE DURESS BUT ONCE ITS DEFENSES ARE BREACHED IT CAN BE HELL TO GET IT BACK INTI EQUILIBRIUM AGAIN.
RE THE AGE QUESTION
1. WHO SUPPLIES THE AGE DATA
2. SAME PEOPLE WHO TELL US THAT RP08 IS RUNNING AT 3%
3. SAME PEOPLE WHO SAY MERCURY IS SAFE, IN YOUR TEETH
4. SAME PEOPLE WHO SAY AUTISM IS NOT CAUSED BY VACCINATION
JUST ANOTHER ASPECT TO THAT PROPOSITION.
BAD FATS/PLASTIC FATS. THE BODY IS A BLOODY MIRACLE. THEN WE DUMP PLASTIC FATS IN IT. BODY REALLY DOES NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT BUT IT HAS A QUARTER MASTER. HE SAYS, STORE IT, WRAP IT UP, NEVER KNOW WE MIGHT FIND A USE FOR IT. (EXPLOITING THE BODIES DONT WASTE ANYTHING PROGRAMMING).
OBESITY ANYBODY.
I RE READ THE ORIGINAL POSTS. SOME RAPID RESULTS POSTED, SURE THAT GETS YOU FIRED UP BUT
FACT
FAST CRITTERS REACT FAST. SLOW CRITTERS REACT SLOW. PHYSICS. SO MOST PEOPLE HAVE SLOW ACTING, DRIP DRIP POISONS, VIRUSES AND MYCOPLASMAS, SO GETTING AT THEM ALL TAKES TIME. SO THE 3 DAY AIDS FIX DOES SURPRISE ME.
PARTNER IN CRIME HAS HAD A HUGE LUMP APPEAR ON HER JAY, SWOLLEN LYMPH GLANDS. I THINK THE LIVER CLEANSE DID THAT. A LOT OF JUNK DUMPED INTO THE BLOOD AT ONCE CAN CAUSE A BLOCKAGE THERE. THUS AWARENESS OF WHAT IS GOING ON IS IMPORTANT.
KILLING THE BUGS IS ONLY PART OF THE STORY. THEY DO A LOT OF PHYSICAL DAMAGE WHILST THEY ARE LIVING IN YOU. YOU GOTTA FIX THAT WHEN THEY HAVE GONE AS WELL.
ALSO SEARCHED THE POO THREADS, YEP THEY BECAME USEFULL.
NO SIGNS OF TAPEWORMS, WHITE WORMS WIRE WORMS, LIVER FLUKES OR SAILS (BILHARZIA) SO THAT LOOKS GOOD BUT JUST READ ABOVE THAT YOU NEED TO GET TO 15 PER DAY TO ZAP THEM CRITTERS.
GL
greylensman@rocketmail.com |
| Arrow
User ID: 305837
12/15/2007 12:57 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Well I'm of the mindset that people do live longer these days but they are having more chronic disease. There once was a time when many many families would loose a child. Now its not all that common.
For instance I think either I or my son would be dead if it were not for advanced obstetrical care. Having had two c sections that were not preventable by any midwifes standard. Also having had sever throat infection that would have likely killed me two times. My husband continues to live due also to a surgery for unexpected gall bladder disease. No stones. Just gangrene of the gall bladder.
Although many diseases are caused by pharmaceutical intervention they also do save lives.
I think that we are nearing a turning point. And when it comes it will change the face of medicine as we know it.
This will come through stem cell advancement and the outcome of the challenges of the plague of resistant bacteria that are happening today.
I would bring to your attention this audio report from Novabay Pharmaceutical company.
If you choose to listen to it you will see that they are investigating the function of the white blood cell and just how that cell goes about killing a pathogen.
One of the compounds they have been looking at is hypochlorus acid. Sound familiar? If you've done your homework in MMS it will be.
They have made a product using hypochlorus acid. They are also making a compound that replicates another pathogen killing chemical from the white blood cell. The call it Agonocide. or NVc-422
Here is the link: I found it quite educational. The speaker also reports that the CDC has mandated that hospitals now have to reveal to patients their facilities infection rate. I had not heard this before. I'm sure hospitals will work at keeping this information secret as long as they possibly can so it does need to be shouted from the roof tops to force compliance.
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| VonChillis
User ID: 308501
12/15/2007 2:50 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Arrow,
You have a valid point. We have come a long way. I believe the future will send us many amazing discoveries. My fear is the stiff resistance and protective measures government and Big Pharma are trying to enact. As you know, the medical establishment gives very little credit to the natural meds. and various practices like chiropractic. The science involved in the medical R&D must be mind boggling. I would only show my ignorance to try and critique the sciences involved in these areas. Like all good and large things, they need money for development. Where does it come from?
I like the MMS because it's so simple (maybe not the chemestry) but I think it shows promise. Most of our problems I believe have simple solutions but require costly actions to enact them. My question is one of pure speculation and suspicion. I find it difficult to believe that as long as sodium chlorite has been around, no one has discovered this before. There are numerous reports on ingestion of this substance but no medical studies? I would love for someone to say "Wow! this stuff really fixes many problems. We'll develop this and list all that it will cure." I don't see that happening. Quite the contrary, I see it as something that will be ignored or possibly controlled. I am of simple and limited means to think these things through. I don't have the time and resources to pound any actions into effect. Like many, I see intelligent and of high erudition minds pouring their substantiated and referenced thoughts into blogs much like this one. To what end? I have tried the MMS and my wife too. At this point in time, I have to say it worked. I put my testimonials on this site for any and all to see. If my words help just one person, I can say that I participated in something I believe is really big. Much the way one participates in a new beta version of Windows -- reporting bugs and glitches. Only here, no one is making any money off of this. I guess (besides babbling) I just don't understand the needs for genetically modified foods or stem cells or any sub atomic redirection. I think we absolutely must understand it and be able to exploit the many benefits it may produce. But, because I don't understand it I have to trust these brilliant people and their agendas. I just don't have total faith in that and I want reassurance that they've exhausted all possible measures to be sincere in their efforts.
VonChillis
BTW I've put together a dosage chart for the MMS I hope it helps. Let me know if I've made any mistakes Thx
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| Arrow
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12/15/2007 9:08 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
I agree Von Chillis, the future is uncertain. It is difficult to know who to trust so I prefer my own gut instinct at this point. My gut tells me to stock pile MMS. I will still be hopeful for the future and believe that as a human race we will evolve out of greed and the need to power control..... until I see certain evidence shown in legislation demonstrating a resurgence of freedom as well as regulations on corporate lobby I will maintain significant doubt.
Another interesting investigation is that of DCA being researched at the University of Alberta. DCA is similar in some respects to MMS. Take a look here. Marketing companies for DCA in the US were shut down. So one must mail order to Canada for it now. This site has very interesting research posted.
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12/15/2007 11:34 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
can you use Potable Aqua Chlorine Dioxide Tablets , one can buy them from Campmor |
| Anonymous Coward
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12/16/2007 6:54 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
I could feel a cold coming on. Over several hours, it took over as colds and the like do. Felt crummy, short of breath, very runny nose, headaches, coughing... was waiting for it to settle into my chest and throat and get full blown as something like this almost always does. I hardly ever get sick, but when I do, it is unmistakable.
So, I dose with 5 drops of MMS. I also against the protocol, had an espresso. Felt very little. Several hours later, and the cold is starting to get full force, I do another dose, this time without competing with anything. Dunno if this was it, or contributed, or what, but within 2-3 hours things were lifting. And around the 4th hour, the cold had for all intents disappeared and I found myself feeling not only ok, but really quite good. 0 symptoms. Too good as a matter of fact as I ended up staying up quite late because I had all this restored energy.
Ummmmmm..... MMS? I dunno, but something sure as h3ll knocked this almost full blown cold out of the water, or rather, my system. This experience has me really intrigued.
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Dealing with what a lot of other people have reported- the cold symptoms. Also, my sinuses have drained somewhat (always had problems in that area!).. typical herx'ing, feel better in some areas and a little worse in others. My food is digesting better, getting signs of the nasal passages/sinuses clearing and there are indications I'm on the mend. Been using it for around 10 days now. I'm having a tendency to eat healthier and avoid junk food, sort of a natural desire to eat healthier like the body is craving nutritious food instead of garbage.
Regimen (along with increased green veggies in diet):
MMS 7 drops 1-2x/day
Magnesium Asporotate with meals
Shatavari root powder (ayurvedic herb for Candida symptoms/leaky gut, i'm getting the feeling it works a lot like slippery elm ala the old Cayce remedies) 1/2 hour before meals, 1-2x/day
Pro-M, 2 caps w/ ea. meal
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That is just way too cool to read!
I have noticed almost since the beginning of taking the MMS
a dramatic decrease in my sweet cravings, which pretty much
used to rule my life (of course I "had to be feeding" all the
bugs in the body :).
Now I barealy even think of any deserts after the meal...
Which for me is just STUPENDOUS!!!
Also, although I still do smoke cigarettes (very light smoker, about
2-4 cigs a day), the feeling of disgust and nausea at the point
of smoking is overwhelming... I am thinking almost enough to make
me want to finally quit for good! WOW!!
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I also have the same feeling about smoking.Although I'm not addicted, I used to savor in each and every cigarette I smoked. Now that I started MMS I don't feel that pleasure anymore.It's strange, isn't it?
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See I told you!! MMS acts as our inner conscience. When I started the yeast free diet I was cooking some barley/amaranth bread with Stevia, for my sugar cravings. With MMS I don't really want to eat those anymore, makes me a little nauseous. But I crave for string beans, carrots, zucchinis and avocados. Funny huh?
Whenever I have kids I'll give them MMS so that they take their veggies (LOL) :)
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Parasites release a lot of toxins when they die, thus the term "die-off". When a body is loaded with toxins, loose stools or even diarrhea are one fast way to get rid of the toxic waste before the body is overwhelmed. Some people can develop rashes or pimples, flu like symptoms, fevers and nausea when dealing with die-off. With all the different kinds of die-off, I would take loose stools over other options.
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It's great for me; as I've been constipated most of my life as far back as I can remember - more than 50 years. I've been on MMS for about 3 months. I've not had one day with constipation. I hope this continues; even when I slow down on MMS. I can't detect anything that would indicate that I'm purging fungi or parasites; however, I'm convinced that I am. Somehow the body knows what it needs to do to remove the toxins. MMS seems to be a purgative.
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Last night was my first dose. Oddly enough It didn't change color, so I'll try covering it with a plate next time and see if it changes anything.
About 20 minutes afterwards I had a bout of hardcore sneezing that lasted 15-20 minutes and i knew that something had triggered my immune system. This is the same reaction I had when I first tried oil of oregano, like the body is trying to clear the lungs and sinuses or something.
As someone said, this stuff makes you dream vivid dreams and sleep like the dead. Strangely enough in my dream I was having crazy bowel movements, vomiting something that felt like it was sawdust and hacking up crazy mucous.
But this morning I woke up feeling more refreshed than I can remember, like I had just had the most rejuvenating sleep ever.
I'm sold. MMS is my new best friend.
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I know everyone is interested in people's reactions to MMS since this is all so new. I started taking MMS a little over 3 weeks ago. I started out very slowly - 1 drop the first night. 2 drops for several nights after that, then 3. After the first 10 days I started taking some in the am also. Now I am up to 6 drops at night and 5 in the am. When I went to 7 drops I had more detox than I wanted and went back down.
On the very first day after starting with 1 drop I could feel a difference. I felt better, more clear and I had more energy. At first I slept really well but now I have been waking up a lot earlier than I would really like.
I have done so many things in the past for my health that have put me through so many "detoxes" that I really don't want to do that any more. I am purposefully keeping myself below the detox threshold. I have had energy every single day since I have started. I have had diarrhea at times but not badly.
A couple of the other things that I have noticed is a wart on my knuckle immediately started to disappear. I have had this for at least 15 years. On the second day a pimple appeared next to it, then the wart started to diminish. Now instead of being raised and bumpy, it is flat.
Also on my big toe, there was a large rough area like a callus that never went away. This is now less than half the size. It also seems like the toenail fungus on that toe is getting better.
Right now I feel that i would keep taking the MMS at low doses just to get the energy it gives me even if I didn't think that it would "cure" me of anything.
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I am off and on with this but have had bad diarhea and stomach pains since a week before thanksgiving . Even if I stop for a few weeks the diarhea does not stop and is quite painful it is very much like the IBS I used to suffer from. I am not sure what is going on the mms does not make it go away nor does the paradophilus nor does not taking either one. I am going to take a full bottle of reg probiotic this helped clear up IBS years ago. Anyone else having this problem?
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At what dosage level were you when the diarrhea started?
I am taking both Paradophilus and MMS. I was previously pushing the doses quite aggressively. I did make it to 15 x 3, but once I did that for a full day, the next day I had nearly 20 trips to the bathroom. That went on for 2 days, but since then I decided to keep it consistently around 10 x 2 and I don't ever get any kind of headache or loose stool. Everything up to the point of 15 x 3 was pretty difficult with lots of diarrhea. Seems like in retrospect that I had to push over that initial hump of really getting rid of some bad stuff, as everything since that time is not even noticable. (again.... I am no longer trying to push an aggressive dose)
If it were me (hard to day while not feeling what you're feeling) I would probably back off to 5 x 2 or possibly less and just let it settle down.
From what I have read, it is better to keep at least a minimal dosage so that organisms aren't able to reestablish.
Also, if you are concerned about MMS wiping out your good flora, I can tell you that I have taken before and after Genova microbiology tests and my good bacteria stayed at exactly the same level while some of the bad bacteria has begun to come down slowly over a month's time. (though nothing close to the speed as it would with an antibiotic or things like grapefruit seed extract)
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Hi. I posted before that I was having stomach pains in the early morning from taking MMS. I was up to 15 drops every evening and then I'd wake up in the morning and it felt like a hole was being burned in my stomach so I stopped.
I was reading some MMS websites and here is a question and answer by Jim Humble about stomach pains:
Q. My niece and nephew ( 7 and 3) are taking 2 drops of MMS and seemed to be quite OK with it for about one week. However, now they are complaining of "sore tummies". Do you have any idea what this may mean? As I have not heard this comment before and the children are so little, I thought it would be a wise question to ask.
A. I’d stop until the sore tummies go away, and then I’d start back at only one drop for a while. I’ve never heard of sore tummies before, but the fact that they both have it would make me believe it is a parasite of some kind, or an imagination. However, I would bet on the parasite. So on second thought, don’t stop, just reduce back to one drop. If it is a parasite we don’t want to allow it to recuperate.
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I highly recommend taking it in the evening because of the awesome sleep you'll have. It's the sleep of the dead. I'd take it and then wouldn't wake up one bit until the morning.
The a.m. burning stomach pains were a problem for me. I really wish I knew what exactly was going on. I will try taking it again, but I will stay at a much lower dosage.
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I also get a burning sensation in my tummy in the morning after an evening dose, but then again, I have gastritis from 20 years of anti-inflammatory use, so it's no surprise.
Like me, you'll probably find eating something soon after waking (within 10 minutes) will stop the pain from occurring altogether. I too agree that the MMS is probably pretty hard on the stomach, especially if you have a delicate stomach to begin with.
Just eat something prior to getting that burning sensation and you'll be fine.
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Last time around I mentioned that I do acupuncture every week. For many, many, many weeks I always come back with 'weak spleen' along with 'weak liver or kidneys or both'....but it's always the spleen. (spleen = pancreas in TCM)
Today marks the first time I went into acupunture in total balance. I had no indication of weakness in the pulse reading. My therapist was quite excited and happy for me. She's very very skilled and I know she was getting a little frustrated at my lack of progress. Though, I never really gave her the full detail of just how bad my IBS symptoms and strict my dietary restrictions have to be for me to function as a normal healthy individual. She also made the comment that the winter season is usually not a season of rapid progress in acupunture, so she was also very happy to see that at a time when our bodies are more geared for hibernation mode. (unlike spring which is commonly a very progressive time of the year)
Needless to say, I was very happy to hear that as well. I must say, I feel that my abrupt improvements came along in short order only after I began my MMS treatment on November 14th, and they have followed very steadily along that timeline.
Here is my noted progress and timeline:
09-Nov - Weak spleen, weak liver, weak gallbladder (as it was week after week)
14-Nov - Started MMS
16-Nov - Weak spleen, strong liver, stomach heat (hmmm... strong liver)
30-Nov - Weak kidney
07-Dec - Traveling, no acupuncture
14-Dec - Completely balanced
I remain careful not to overstate my progress with MMS, but this just speaks volumes to me.
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I was very aggressive in dosing at first, and I went through quite a lot of trips to the bathroom. It had become rather unpleasant and I have since backed down to a consistent 10 x 2 dosage.
Anyone with major gut organism imbalances will tell you that the pains and symptoms you feel are driven by their toxic byproduct - things that hit the organs, muscles, brain, joints, etc. I really feel that the first thing MMS does is help clear the blood and take that big hit off your system. Each day feels much more bright and cheery. No more 'vicious cycle' impacting hormone production and conversion, tingly sensations in the head, brain fog, low grade fevers, stressed and broken blood vessels in the eyes, puffy and swollen parotid glands, bleeding gums, consistently dark urine, bulky snake-like foul smelling stools, etc etc. All of that seems to subside after MMS. I feel the long term issue will still be balancing the gut organisms, because if I am not extremely careful with my diet I know that I still get very prompt overgrowth of bad organisms. MMS in my experience does not seem to just miraculously clean up dysbiosis and kill all the bad guys, although the major impact is lifted through clearing these organisms settled into the blood and major organs (colon and small intenstines excluded in my humble and unverified opinion) I now have very consistently light colored urine. Even drinking 2-3 liters per day before I always had very dark yellow throughout the entire day. I imagine that my kidneys are much happier with the MMS detox over the organism byproduct. I know they have been consistently and visibily swollen (without any kind of pain) rather consisently for over a year.
I am not cured, but at the very least, I no longer worry that these organisms are destroying my liver and kidneys. I used to comment to my wife that "I might as well be drinking a case of beer every day for the impact that these guys are having on my liver and kidneys". MMS has really taken a load off my mind in that sense, but I know it will still take much caution and careful navigating through food preparation with as few restaurant visits as possible.
Here are the next 5 days of my MMS log. (which just about takes me up to the acupuncture reading of only having a congested kidney meridian) After this, I stopped capturing a log since I settled into a lower consistent dose without any noticable detox symptoms:
Day 11 – November 24, 2007 - Saturday
5AM: 15 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 8 oz water.
12PM: 10 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 8 oz water.
9PM: 13 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 8 oz water.
In summary: I had a very tired and lethargic feeling most of the day. Lower back pain from straining my back very easily in the morning. (odd) Sort of had a mild hangover feeling through the entire day. Did not really have an appetite until dinner time.
Day 12 – November 25, 2007 - Sunday
6AM: 13 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 8 oz water.
12PM: 12 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 8 oz water.
11PM: 13 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 8 oz water.
In summary: No noticeable response, other than the usual tiredness.
Day 13 – November 26, 2007 - Monday
6AM: 13 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 8 oz water.
5PM: 14 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 8 oz water.
In summary: Soft stool at 8AM, then diarrhea at 10, 10:30 & 11AM. Noticed floaters, just a little this morning. Gurgling stomach seemed to follow immediately after glutamine+probiotic. I wonder if there is a connection.
Day 14 – November 27, 2007 - Tuesday
4AM: 14 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 16 oz water.
11AM: 14 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 16 oz water.
10PM: 15 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 16 oz water.
In summary: I had quite a lot of rumbling in the stomach and a head ache some several hours later in the morning.
Day 15 – November 28, 2007 - Wednesday
7AM: 15 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 16 oz water.
5PM: 10 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 16 oz water.
In summary: I had probably the worst case of diarrhea today in memory. Had over a dozen trips. Interestingly, my parotid glands seemed to reduce almost completely. Also have been using paradophilus today and yesterday in the range of 3-4 sprays.
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I have to say, I am quite happy with my results so far using MMS for my dysbiosis & yeast overgrowth issues. I believe that with MMS and my diet approach so far is more effective than anything else I have tried - and I have tried just about everything. I want to be careful not to exaggerate this for anyone but I do stand behind that statement.
I typically get a weekly flare up of some type of symptoms that attempts to take me back down physically and mentally.
I have not had any notable flare up since starting the MMS protocol and have now reached 15 drops. I had some trouble with nausea and diarrhea through the beginning and had to back off, but that appears to be subsiding the last couple of days.
I have been taking a journal on some of the thoughts and feelings while building up the dose in case anyone wanted to read.
Please note: I have worked very hard to get myself to a very stable condition prior to discovering MMS here in Curezone. I have gotten past all of the hormone, inflammation, fatique, & brain fog type of issues. I say that to warn anyone who might still be dealing with these, as they might want to take it slower than what I have done.
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Day 1 – November 14, 2007 - Wednesday
4PM: 3 drops with 15 drops lemon and 12 oz water. Noticed the flavor just reminded me of lemony tap water, quite pleasant at this ratio. It has a hint of chlorinated scent to it. Within a few hours I thought maybe I had a relaxed but ‘alert’ feeling in the brain. I had lots of rumbling in the stomach and was slightly gassy.
Day 2 – November 15, 2007 - Thursday
5AM: 4 drops with 20 drops lemon and 12 oz water. Taste was very tolerable. I also used a small portion of the dose to brush my teeth and gargle and swish for several minutes, like when you do oil pulling. I noticed a little body odor, which to me indicates toxins coming out a bit as I slept. I noticed that my parotid glands reduced in swelling over a 12 hour period, and did not swell during my sleep. (they almost always swell as I sleep and shrink back down during the day) I consider the facial swelling at the ear/jaw line a telling sign of where I am at internally with bad organisms.
10AM: 5 hours after taking the 4 drops I had a loose stool, one that came about fairly sudden but very controllable from a timing perspective.
12PM: I realize that I have just a slight bit of nasal drip, a little stuffiness.
5PM: 5 drops with 25 drops lemon and 12 oz water.
In summary: I had 2 very soft and large volume bowel movements through the day. It seems my body was purging some toxins.
Day 3 – November 16, 2007 - Friday
5AM: 6 drops with 30 drops lemon and 12 oz water. Stomach began it’s usually gurgling and noises within 30 minutes.
2PM: Nothing eventful to note so far today.
5PM: 8 drops with 40 drops lemon and 4 oz water. Trying this evening’s dose with a smaller portion of water to see if it has any greater effect. I still have not noticed any response, even 1 hour after the dose.
In summary: I had 2 very soft and medium volume bowel movements through the day.
Day 4 – November 17, 2007 - Saturday
5AM: 9 drops with 45 drops lemon and 12 oz water. 2 hours after consuming MMS, I took a high potency probiotic of acidophilus/bifidus in the range of 200 billion. This normally does not bother my stomach in the least, but this morning it was upset, a little sick feeling. I wonder if the nausea might be related to combining MMS with probiotics.
12PM: My slight stomach ache seems to come and go and it borders on nausea, but hardly. I am feeling very tired and enjoying the extra napping.
5PM: 11 drops with 55 drops lemon and 20 oz water, sipped over a 3 hour period. No noticeable response.
In summary: I had no bowel movement through the day, likely due to things slowing down to normal speed.
Day 5 – November 18, 2007 - Sunday
5AM: 12 drops with 60 drops lemon and 5 oz water. Have not really noticed any response to the higher doses, except my urine color is showing very yellow in spite of drinking 2-3 liters per day. (I’m not taking any B vitamins) Woke up with a fairly stiff neck and back muscles still a bit inflamed.
5PM: 13 drops with 65 drops lemon and 5 oz water.
In summary: I had one completely normal bowel movement through the day. Have been noticing some skip eruptions lately, which I would normally equate to detoxification in some form. Some patches of dry, red skin also appearing on the chest. In general, I find that my symptoms are lessening and I sense a systemic improvement. Although I still feel a little sluggish or sleepy through parts of the day, but happily just take a 30 minute nap and am ready to get up and go again.
Day 6 – November 19, 2007 - Monday
5AM: 14 drops with 70 drops lemon and 4 oz water. This dose had some bite. I chugged it down so fast that I hardly noticed, but it’s really not as pleasant at this level. Seemed to quickly have a very light headache in response for a short time. I think the residual smell in the kitchen gets to me the most. After 15 minutes, feeling a slight bit of nausea.
10AM: Had diarrhea for first time since starting MMS, twice in 20 minutes. Quite a lot, but it was controllable, and so far non-disruptive at work.
5PM: 13 drops with 65 drops lemon and 4 oz water.
In summary: I had both nausea (1 time) and diarrhea (4 times) today, though it was not dramatic or disruptive. I was dragging a bit most of the day, with buzzing sensations in my feet and back muscles, a tad of blurry vision as well.
Day 7 – November 20, 2007 - Tuesday
5AM: 12 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 12 oz water. I did not sleep well, woke up nearly every hour, severely dry joints, sore neck upon waking. 3 pounds lighter in just one day. I have a sense of some pain throughout the colon/gut perhaps due to toxins coming out or perhaps a bacterial rebound. A rather unpleasant night following an unpleasant day.
10AM: 2 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 20 oz water. Sipped over 2 hours.
5PM: 12 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 4 oz water.
In summary: I had one semi-normal formed stool through the day. Tired and dragging through today. Back and neck pains. Hoarse voice. Not a happy day. Towards to end of the day, much improvement later into the night.
Day 8 – November 21, 2007 - Wednesday
5AM: 12 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 4 oz water. This drink is getting hard to tolerate. It is mostly the odor that causes a near sick feeling before even tasting. Slept very well last night. Awoke happy feeling, had diarrhea at 9:30am. Not a happy odor.
5PM: 12 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 4 oz water.
In summary: I had diarrhea 2 times today. I felt slightly better today than I have felt the last few days.
Day 9 – November 22, 2007 - Thursday
5AM: 12 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 4 oz water.
5PM: 12 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 4 oz water.
In summary: I had just about no reaction when dropping back to 12 drops the past few days. I wanted to remain here through Thanksgiving, so as not to have any reactions. I did not have any bowel movements, I assume things are slowing down to normal speed.
Day 10 – November 23, 2007 - Friday
5AM: 14 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 4 oz water.
5PM: 15 drops with ½ tsp lemon and 4 oz water.
In summary: I had a very mild day, no noticeable response to MMS. Have been feeling quite well through the day. I find the MMS taste much more tolerable after backing down from the nausea and returning to the higher dose. My stool seems to have sped up just a bit in the evening due to returning up to a 14 drop dose. My stomach also noticed the 15 drop dose only slightly, but no nausea or anything just yet.
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I started out very slowly taking one drop of MMS and 5 drops of Lemon juice with some pure grape juice and purified water in the am starting last Friday. When I increased to 3 drops on Monday, I had a very itchy large red rash that looks like a burn, break out on my chest. (I have been putting some Lanacane on it, but it is still bothering me today.) I was also was taking the proboitic LB17 and wheatgrass but have stopped these. I have just stayed at 3 drops today, but I am wondering if I should stop if this isn't going away. Has anybody else had a reaction like this?
(I forgot to mention I have had itching in my chest and jock itch for a long time. But I never had anything breakout on my chest before, so it would seem there is something in all this mixture I am taking that has upset my system. Any ideas would be appreciated!)
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I don't have the same itch on the chest area as you are experiencing. But I had red rash and itch on my thigh and abdominal area. A awhile back I had the same rash and itch on the same areas. I had skin candida (yeast) infection on those areas.
MMS brought the rash and itch back for a few days. I think what happened is this: I had candida at those areas but dormant. MMS killed candida and toxins released caused the itch and rash. It only lasted for about 3 days then it was totally gone.
I suggest you not to stop MMS. Reduce the dosage if the rash and itch is too much to bear. They should go away soon.
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This is not really uncommon ...
I remember a testimony from about 5 years ago from a guy who had worked with asbestos for years ... after he started taking sodium chlorite and drinking a grass drink, he started having small bumps (like goose bumps) appear all over his arms.
Then little particles emerged from the heads that developed on these bumps ... they were asbestos particles that had been "stored" away by the body.
Your body can produce some very strange skin reactions using this protocol. I would strongly suggest that you continue using wheatgrass/barley grass, etc... And try to drink a liter of water per day per 40lbs of body weight.
As far the MMS goes, if the skin condition is tolerable to you, then just continue it. If it is bothersome, or worsens, then consider going down by a drop. If it is a healing reaction, and you discontinue, then you will give the pathogens time to regroup and colonize again.
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I have had what is labeled Candida symptoms for years now, and tried probably every protocol known to mankind to eliminate it from my body:
- The Master Cleanse fasting,
-the "right" diet with eliminating all the sugars and molds,
-liver flushes,
-KM (the wonderful herbal preparation),
-EMs (the soil-based organisms),
-kinesiology/chiropractic approach with the use of vibrational medicines,
-all kinds of homeopathy,
-the bentonite clay,
-the grapefruit seed extract
-the neem (wonderful anti-fungal and anti-bacterial herb)
-coloidal silver
-and probably half a dozen other approaches I cannot even remember now...
They all were great, and some helped to a large degree, but none of them really eliminated all the symptoms.. I used to here, that there is no "magic bullet" in treating candida, but refused to believe it...
and am convinced I finally found one in MMS.
One of the amazing feats of this little substance, that just shows it's inherent intelligence it the natural ability to self-eliminate.
I remember doing the Master cleanse fasting (the maple syrup/lemon juice/cayenne pepper) on several occasions with very good results, and one of the things, that is being stressed very emphatically is to make sure you eliminate properly, because if you do not, it is like "sweeping the house, and moving the dust from one room to another" with no real improvements. The crud just HAS to get out.
Except in the fasting it does not happen organically, you have to make sure you induce it by some other, additional methods...
Whereas here with MMS, all you do, is just ingest it... it takes care of the rest on it's own, and all by itself. Not just the "destroying all the bad stuff", but eliminating it from your body as well. Amazing!!
That's why I LOVE all the "diarrhea" symptoms, and would not trade it for anything!!
:-)
... I have been taking it for two weeks, and took the fast route, which was not very pleasant, and looking back, I would not recommend it. As of yesterday, I was up to 14 drops in the AM and 15 in the PM... had just about every possible "herxing' (cleansing) reaction - lots and lots of nausea, feeling depressed and apathetic beyond description, feeling of complete lack of energy for anything, lots of pains in different parts of the body (where the MMS has just been "working")...
Mainly, I really hated the taste and the ingestion part, it got to be too much.
So today, I went back to 9 drops in the morning, and will not do more than 12 in the evening. So far the day has gone very smoothly, I actually have some energy left to go about my daily life, and do not recoil at the thought of drinking the MMS again.
Will probably stay at this dose for a while before moving back up.
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Same happened to me :)
My digestive system, which has been my biggest problem, feels very calm with MMS. I can even go out to eat lunch 1 or 2 times per week, and feel normal !!! (that's a BIG deal to me)
As for the reactions, well, that's another story. I had to drop from 10 drops AM and 14 PM, down to 6 AM and 11 PM. I found that is my comfort dosage.
And there are days where the reactions are hard to cope, but it usually lasts a couple of hours after MMS and I feel great after.
Tomorrow I'll turn 4 weeks of using it and I can't leave it now. My bet is I'll need at least 3 months or so to clean up my system enough to go down to maintenance dosage.
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My pH tester is very basic, no numbers, but it was well over 7 in color and oddly I started getting constipated and generally not feeling well...I had no clue what was going on. I was getting high in my dosing 10 drops 3 X per day. I started to think that perhaps the MMS had finished its job! I stopped for a few days and felt better then resumed to 3 drops per day. Yesterday I took 5 drops and all is still well.
Truly I feel GREAT and I am very thankful for MMS. Even my mom has noticed a big difference in me; she says I look beautiful and radiant!
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I have been on 15 drops twice a day since Sun. I thought I was very clean after Iodine, and being a juicer for the last 4 years, but amazed at how much acid and bugs I dumped in the last 2 weeks.Feeling quite good myself. Cleared up a lung thing that has been bothering me for months. Sinuses seem to be clearing to. Going to maintenance on Mon. mms A.M. Iodine In P.M. 5 drops each.
I will be 67 new years day, take no meds at all. Checked my B/P last night 120/60 pulse 65.
Went to 15 drops in less then 3 weeks.
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i worked up to 9 drops twice daily over a couple of weeks but some days i couldnt bare taking it 2 times so just did the 9 drops once. now whenever i think of the mms i feel sick and think i went up too fast for me, im thinking of going back onto it in a few days but just doing 3 drops twice daily for a bit and see how i feel.
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At 2 months and 2 weeks I am seeing continued improvements. I always brush my teeth with baking soda before taking the MMS. The smell and taste doesn't seem to bother me.You might try brushing with Arm And Hammer baking soda. It is good for your gums as well. LET me know if it helps with the smell. Also brushing with MMS is reducing my Peridontal pockets. I have MS and MMS has stopped my spasms in chest, legs, and hips, for the last 6 weeks.
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I have had almost a complete loss of appetite since starting the MMS, and I love to eat. Now I feel like I have to force myself to eat most of the time. I've also completely lost my sugar cravings, so I'm thinking that it's a good thing.
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Reduction of appetite is definitely related to the action of MMS ... it is not caused by the MMS itself, but it is rather that our appetites are usually inflated by the actions of pathogens within us (ie. Candida, etc....)
Numerous studies over the years have proven that a reduced caloric intake is the path to increased health and vitality, and especially longevity. Mice and other animals that are fed comparatively reduced calories lived to human-equivalents of 120 years and more, and with much more energy than their counterparts.
So much of what we eat is driven by the creatures that infest our inner terrain ... when they are removed or knocked back, our appetite lowers commensurately. I have experienced this first hand, as have many others; I myself lost 45 lbs within 3 months of first starting on sodium chlorite 4 years ago, without trying to diet.
Try to phase your diet to be more alkaline, and try to drink a liter of water per 40lbs of body weight.
If you do not feel like eating healthy foods at all, or are disinterested in eating all foods, then there may be a larger issue. As long as this is not the case, then the MMS is doing what it should.
(If you find that you are losing interest in eating meats, carbs, sweets, dairy, etc... this is not abnormal, as this is not "healthy" food - unless you live in the US government food pyramid )
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I have used it for my Crohn’s and my wife is using it for Lyme disease. It has worked well for both of us. She will require a longer time period to know if it is capable of killing all of the bacteria, but we are hopeful. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340824
12/16/2007 7:12 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
7. Excerpts from the research paper “War Against Microbes” written by the Bradford Research Institute.
“The following is a description of the characterization and mechanism of action of Dioxychlor(TM), researched and developed by American Biologies(TM), as relates to its antiviral, antibacterial, antimycoplasmal and antifungal activities. Dioxychlor(TM) has been in clinical use for over fifteen years with tens of thousands of infusions at the Amerian Biologies(TM) Intergrative Hospital and Medical Center as well as other clinics and hospitals throughout the world.
To understand fully the action of Dioxychlor on target organisms, it is necessary to describe in detail the chemical structure of this oxidant as well as the biochemical structure of substances found in these target organisms with which Dioxychlor(TM) interacts. These targets include viruses (the nucleic acides, RNA, DNA), bacteria and fungi.”
Dioxychlor(TM) is available on the Internet for sale and the entire scientific paper is available as well. The formula although somewhat weaker than MMS is the exact same chemical. (TM stands for Trade Mark).
The formula although somewhat weaker than MMS is the exact same chemical |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 340851
12/16/2007 8:34 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
UP TO 15 TODAY, PARTNER IN CRIME UP TO 20 BUT THAT DROVE HER INSANE.
STILL FEEL LIKE DEATH BUT MUST ADMIT COUGH IS GOING GONE AND LUNGS FEEL DEEPER.
PIC WORRIES THAT NO VOMIT NO SHOTS MEANS NO WORKING BUT I AM CONVINCED THAT HER LYMPTH GLAND IN THE JAW IS GOING DOWN.
THE TESTIMONIALS ABOVE SEEM TO BE VERY POSITIVE.
ME, THINK WHAT IS MAX, HOW LONG AND WHEN BACK TO MAINTENANCE, DIFFICULT I KNOW.
GL |
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