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| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 426682
5/2/2008 5:21 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
VIC
YOU JUST NEED TO CLICK ON THE LAST PAGE SHOWN AND SCROLL DOWN.
WELCOME.
THIS THREAD GENERATES A LOT OF INTEREST.
GL |
| Arrow
User ID: 367405
5/2/2008 2:20 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Vic,
I hope you have figured out the forum. I see all your posts just fine.
I have a good recommendation for your asthma but I got to run to work right now. Will post it in the next day or two. Meanwhile do a search on Tartephedreel
Arrow |
| Brother Vic
User ID: 425929
5/4/2008 2:21 AM
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VIC
YOU JUST NEED TO CLICK ON THE LAST PAGE SHOWN AND SCROLL DOWN.
WELCOME.
THIS THREAD GENERATES A LOT OF INTEREST.
GL Quoting: GREY LENSMAN 426682
Yes, I know. I did that and it is still missing. My other posts are still listed, however. Wonder what happened to my first post? |
| Brother Vic
User ID: 425929
5/4/2008 2:39 AM
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Well, this is May 4th, and I am up to three drops and am feeling very well. Still sleeping like a log but my energy is back up.
My COPD acted up yesterday and I had to use my albuteral, but today my lungs feel better again. I seem to be able to breath better -- like my lungs are bigger, if that makes any sense. Oh, well that may be because the tightness in my chest has subsided.
Still coughing up green mucus, which started soon after I started using the mms.
I feel my strength returning. Feeling more normal and more alive too.
My brain fog, which I wasn't that aware of, is lifting and I am thinking better. Just now I noticed I am typing this note without any difficulty or hesitation on my brains part happening.
I decided to stop taking my HIV meds. I hope that was a wise choice. But I can always resume them. I have stopped them before and restarted them.
I have had chronic diahrea for several years so, for me, I will be seeing if in the long run that improves as well. I hope to see dead parasites soon :)
I am also entering into this with a good mental state of mind so I have that on my side.
I have a doctor's appointment coming up in a couple of weeks so it will be interesting to see what happens when they give me the "blow" test. Not sure what that is called, but it measures your lung capacity by blowing into this contraption. I failed it so badly the last time that I was diagnosed with SEVERE copd.
You know. I am a happy fella and I don't like talking about myself so this is a labor of love, in a way, in hopes that it may help others if it helps me.
I don't want people to look at me and think I am ill when my state of mind is so positive and, the truth is, I am not afraid of death. I do, however, want to see my little boy raised.
Vic |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 427664
5/4/2008 7:59 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
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| Farmgirl
User ID: 307690
5/4/2008 5:01 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
To Brother Vic
I wanted to wish you (continued) success with your MMS - if you're interested in reading articles that relate to our health and choice to be healthy, may I suggest Adam Abraham to you. He writes wonderful articles, and has an incredible understanding of how MMS works (made a documentary with Jim Humble, we have it, really recommend it!) He also fields questions, when he has time. Here are a few of his links: www.phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/09/13/knowing-self-as-key-to-health-and-healing/
Also very good is his most recent article, www.phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2008/05/04/the-magnificent-you-missing-in-plain-sight/
Please continue posting your results, it is encouraging and informative for others. Keep up your great work! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 428018
5/4/2008 11:47 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 367405
5/5/2008 11:21 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Brother Vic,
I don't know if you have seen any of the little posts I wrote about someone who is HIV positive that I have been assisting with MMS.
After he started MMS, about 4 weeks later he went for his usual blood work. He had been off the HIV medicines for several months. He was feeling better yet his T cells tested very low after about 4 or 5 weeks on MMS. Those peoople who treat their HIV with ozone therapy know that T cell levels will go down before they go up. This is because the ozone will kill off the damaged or sick T cells. Then, after a while, in a cleaner environment, new T cells are made and the levels come up.
We were not sure if this was how it was going to go with using MMS but I prepared him for a low reading on that first test. Because so much is not known about MMS and its use with HIV I encouraged him to go by how he felt not by numbers on a test.
Sure enough, it happened. He had seriously low T cell levels. He perservered with MMS. On the next test after that, about 5 r 6 weeks later, his blood work looked so good that he said the doctors were stunned and they wanted to know what he had been doing. According to them he had been off standard HIV therapy for almost 6 months yet his blood lab results were just about normal. He had been using 6 drops of MMS 2 times a day.
After that good test review he got it in his head to stop the MMS, against my recommendation, I was still trying to get him to take it 3 times a day not 2.
Well, he stopped for about a month. He said he was tired of the nausea that it would create for him. He went and got another test and the doctors were worried and wanted him to start the HIV drugs again. Instead he has chosen to resume the MMS. Before this bad test result l he had done quite well, had resumed working and has gotten himself out of depression. He had said that the HIV drugs made him fell very bad and he was glad to find a way to get away from them. When he stopped the MMS for that month or so he did start to feel bad again, like being on the verge of a cold or flu.
I am not convinced that MMS will cure HIV as Jim Humble reports. If it does it is showing not to be a cure that comes in a short time. What this young man is showing me it that it can restore hope and strength, and can bring blood values to normal as his second test showed.
Early on in the treatment he reported that he thought he had passed parasites. Stuff that looks like rice, which is a fairly common parasite.
I suspect that your diarrhea issues will pass as time goes by. I think that the diarrhea is caused by bad microbes in the gut due to immune problems. You eventually will kill them off. People with ulcerative colitis and crohns have had this experience also.
Don't know what you are doing with the rest of your daily regimen but I recommend that you strongly consider diet changes and supplements to boost your immune function. Transfer Factor or similar products made by NOW or Solaray at a lessor cost could be considered as well as Greens. You know, those powdered green drinks you mix up in juice or water, at least 2 x a day. Lots of garlic, fresh veggies and fruits, adequate protein, as you start to develop a stronger digestive system. Vitamin D supplementation.
Looking forward hearing how you progress.
Best,
Arrow |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 425521
5/5/2008 1:01 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Brother Vic,
I don't know if you have seen any of the little posts I wrote about someone who is HIV positive that I have been assisting with MMS.
After he started MMS, about 4 weeks later he went for his usual blood work. He had been off the HIV medicines for several months. He was feeling better yet his T cells tested very low after about 4 or 5 weeks on MMS. Those peoople who treat their HIV with ozone therapy know that T cell levels will go down before they go up. This is because the ozone will kill off the damaged or sick T cells. Then, after a while, in a cleaner environment, new T cells are made and the levels come up.
We were not sure if this was how it was going to go with using MMS but I prepared him for a low reading on that first test. Because so much is not known about MMS and its use with HIV I encouraged him to go by how he felt not by numbers on a test.
Sure enough, it happened. He had seriously low T cell levels. He perservered with MMS. On the next test after that, about 5 r 6 weeks later, his blood work looked so good that he said the doctors were stunned and they wanted to know what he had been doing. According to them he had been off standard HIV therapy for almost 6 months yet his blood lab results were just about normal. He had been using 6 drops of MMS 2 times a day.
After that good test review he got it in his head to stop the MMS, against my recommendation, I was still trying to get him to take it 3 times a day not 2.
Well, he stopped for about a month. He said he was tired of the nausea that it would create for him. He went and got another test and the doctors were worried and wanted him to start the HIV drugs again. Instead he has chosen to resume the MMS. Before this bad test result l he had done quite well, had resumed working and has gotten himself out of depression. He had said that the HIV drugs made him fell very bad and he was glad to find a way to get away from them. When he stopped the MMS for that month or so he did start to feel bad again, like being on the verge of a cold or flu.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 367405
Why use MMS instead of HIV drugs, when MMS gives you worse nausea than the HIV drugs? Also, MMS is more complicated to prepare, and takes more time, and is more sensitive to timing if it is to be taken on an empty stomach. HIV drugs may have fewer side effects than MMS! |
| AJ
User ID: 428413
5/5/2008 6:24 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Can anyone tell me if they also get blurry vision, blood in stool and a foggy head and extreme fatigue? 7th day, 7 drops. Stumbled upon this a few weeks ago while trying to research parasite cleanses (possible morgellons??)and thought it might help. I'm hoping symptons above will get better as I continue to take , but also wondering if I should stop. no blood, foginess, tiredness or blurred vision prior to mms. I am optomistic about mms . any thoughts ? |
| rathmussen
User ID: 383866
5/5/2008 8:34 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Can anyone tell me if they also get blurry vision, blood in stool and a foggy head and extreme fatigue? 7th day, 7 drops. Stumbled upon this a few weeks ago while trying to research parasite cleanses (possible morgellons??)and thought it might help. I'm hoping symptons above will get better as I continue to take , but also wondering if I should stop. no blood, foginess, tiredness or blurred vision prior to mms. I am optomistic about mms . any thoughts ? Quoting: AJ 428413
That sounds not good. Some people would suggest that you might be experiencing HERX (or something) which is a massive die-off of pathogens that makes you feel terrible even though you are on your way to getting better (and maybe you are), but decrease dose or stop for awhile and see if you get better.
I can't see why this would cause blood in your stools though...get a colonoscopy and maybe a fecal analysis. Without proper testing of MMS, I wouldn't take it everyday for the rest of my life but I haven't heard of any long term health problems yet.
I find that when I take it I immediately lose weight (more comes out than I put in, if you know what I mean). It seems to definitely kill microbes. I get a little out of wack with my gut flora levels though...if it actually doesn't touch good bacteria, then maybe it leaves me with too much of a good thing. Sometimes I get some fatigue, but nothing like what you're describing.
Be careful and go get checked out! And try not to get too disturbed by all our various companion species...our bodies can do amazing things when we relax and think positively (and eat well....and exercise...and have money for supplements and doctors...and get lucky...and....) ;) |
| Arrow
User ID: 367405
5/5/2008 10:24 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Why use MMS instead of HIV drugs, when MMS gives you worse nausea than the HIV drugs? Also, MMS is more complicated to prepare, and takes more time, and is more sensitive to timing if it is to be taken on an empty stomach. HIV drugs may have fewer side effects than MMS! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 425521
He uses MMS because he feels better on it than on the HIV drugs. The HIV drugs made him feel real bad. I think he stopped mostly to test the situation. To see if perhaps he was cured, to see what his blood levels would do.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 425521
5/7/2008 12:15 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Why use MMS instead of HIV drugs, when MMS gives you worse nausea than the HIV drugs? Also, MMS is more complicated to prepare, and takes more time, and is more sensitive to timing if it is to be taken on an empty stomach. HIV drugs may have fewer side effects than MMS!
He uses MMS because he feels better on it than on the HIV drugs. The HIV drugs made him feel real bad. I think he stopped mostly to test the situation. To see if perhaps he was cured, to see what his blood levels would do.
Quoting: Arrow
Yet, you said that he quit MMS because it made him feel nauseous, even though it is less nausea than the HIV meds gave him. Most people probably cannot handle a queasy feeling once or more times a day.
Thanks for posting. Please let us know if MMS really keeps his HIV viral load undetectable all by itself. If so, that would be amazing. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430338
5/9/2008 9:13 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Has anyone bought the DVD?
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| Arrow
User ID: 428768
5/10/2008 8:31 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
I have it and its pretty good. |
| corpus
User ID: 434084
5/16/2008 12:25 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
WHAT'S UP VIC??? |
| SpaceCommand
User ID: 405656
5/18/2008 2:05 AM
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Finally after reading about MMS so much I just received it in the mail ordered with citric acid and the mixing bottle.
The first thing I did was mix six drops in a glass with 30 drops of citric acid. After three minutes I filled the glass half with water, swallowing the entire solution while brushing and even flossing with the liquid. It creates a very fresh feeling. It is probably the only usable solution killing streptococcus mutans.
I had read Chapter 7:
"As time passed and people talked to me about various problems I continued to find new uses for the MMS. All of my life I have had trouble with my teeth. Most of my teeth were missing and I wore dentures. My gums were quite soft and my teeth were somewhat loose in the gums. They often got sore and at that particular time they started to hurt and I thought I would have to have one or two pulled. Then I finally decided that I should brush my teeth with the
MMS. I used 6 drops of MMS and 2 teaspoon of vinegar swirled
together in a glass and then I waited the 3 minutes and added 1/3 glass of water and used that to brush my teeth. Again I was amazed.
All of the infection and soreness disappeared in hours. Within a week my gums had hardened up. When I finally did go to have a tooth pulled, it took the dentist a full hour to pull the tooth. My gums were so tough, and the tooth was so well imbedded into my jaw bone he simply couldn't just grab it with his pliers and pull. It wouldn't come
out. I'm not sure I should have had it pulled. It looked perfectly healthy when it was finally out. The dentist was more surprised than I was.
Since that time there have been a number of other people who began to use the MMS for oral hygiene. All that have used it have had the same results, a much healthier mouth. There have been a number of See Chapter 8, page 15 for data on obtaining MMS.
The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century
people who were able to fix their abscessed teeth merely by brushing with MMS."
Now I am ordering from binary toothpaste from Frontier Pharmaceuticals, although I am wary of fluoride. It may be all right for a brief time.
[link to www.frontierpharm.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 435417
5/19/2008 1:59 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
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| jennyjenny
User ID: 180153
5/20/2008 12:00 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Why use MMS instead of HIV drugs, when MMS gives you worse nausea than the HIV drugs? Also, MMS is more complicated to prepare, and takes more time, and is more sensitive to timing if it is to be taken on an empty stomach. HIV drugs may have fewer side effects than MMS!
He uses MMS because he feels better on it than on the HIV drugs. The HIV drugs made him feel real bad. I think he stopped mostly to test the situation. To see if perhaps he was cured, to see what his blood levels would do.
Yet, you said that he quit MMS because it made him feel nauseous, even though it is less nausea than the HIV meds gave him. Most people probably cannot handle a queasy feeling once or more times a day.
Thanks for posting. Please let us know if MMS really keeps his HIV viral load undetectable all by itself. If so, that would be amazing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 425521
Yeah that is why we stay with what is familiar - I am waiting for my first order and I am not looking forward to the awful taste - the nausea - but I accept it because I want to get beyond my mediocre health and energy levels and go to somewhere better. I am also fascinated to hear how mms works on hiv. What an awful diagnose and my heart goes out to anyone who is living with it. |
| phaelosopher 
User ID: 438787
5/24/2008 10:50 AM
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Hi Everyone,
I'm compiling some of the MMS articles from my blog into a book, to be titled, "No Miracle, Just Wonderful Chemistry". I'd like to include a chapter called, Real Life Experiences, akin to Jim's "Stories of Success". Many people have posted their own on my blog, but I wanted to extend the offer here.
It has been suggested that the book be available as an ebook as well as softcover. The pricing will be somewhat dependent on the final page count. Your input is welcomed.
In addition, the documentary DVD on MMS will soon be available on bulk spindles of 10, 25, 50, 100, and 150. No sleeves, cases, or anything else. My first order for 1,000 discs (on assorted spindle sizes) is almost all spoken for, but it only takes about two weeks for them to manufacture. They are drastically priced from the retail packaged product (from $6.50 each for 10, to $3.33 each for 150), so as to make sharing the information with many more people possible.
Some of the MMS vendors have ordered it, and will be able to include the DVD on orders over a certain price point.
First shipments are in two weeks.
Regards,
Adam...
[link to phaelosopher.wordpress.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 442033
5/29/2008 9:30 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 442119
5/29/2008 11:53 AM | | corpus
User ID: 443199
5/31/2008 9:52 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Hoping Bruce will reply.....
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Well, I'm patiently waiting to see the "documented proof that ClO2 kills all the good microflora bacteria in the gut as well as bad" as this has not been my personal actual use experience while taking acid activated sodium chlorite made chlorine dioxide almost daily for 7 months now.
However, I am very interested in getting any scientific data that quantifies how much good aerobic bacteria if any is killed versus the bad anearobic bacteria. Along those lines, I would also like actual quantifiable information about any likelihood of anything above pH7 (akaline) reacting with chlorine dioxide. Please post links to these data. Sincerely, Corpus |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 432496
5/31/2008 5:56 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
I am still waiting for just ONE person to come online and say that MMS keeps HIV viral load or HEP C viral load down to undetectable all by itself, with no other meds. I've seen no one brag about this is ANY online forum. Anyone? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 442629
6/1/2008 10:53 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
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| Arrow
User ID: 428768
6/2/2008 11:29 AM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 442629
6/4/2008 4:56 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 333742
6/10/2008 11:06 PM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
question.. you always here people poo pooing oxidants like MMS and saying that we should be taking anti-oxidants.. so what is the relation between the two? Should we be taking both? |
| kingnothing
User ID: 449935
6/11/2008 10:03 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
Hi everybody, I recently ordered some mms to boost my health. I don't have any disease that I know of. So last night I added 5 drops of citric acid to one drop of MMS, waited the 3 minutes and added the water. I didn't want to drink it all at once so I just started to sip, after about half an hour and half of the mixture, my heartbeat became really rapid and my pupils were dilated, I was really scared and after about an hour I drank a lot of orange juice to counter act the mms. Any one else had this reaction? Don't think I'm going to continue with the MMS as it scared the hell out of me. |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 449941
6/11/2008 10:15 AM | | Re: Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century | Quote |
THE MEDICAL FRAUDSTERS HEVE DELIBERATELY OBSCURED SIMPLE CHEMISTRY.
THE HUMAN METABOLISM IS OXIDATION OR SIMPLE BURNING. THIS PRODUSES ENERGY.
THE WASTE PRODUCTS ARE OXIDES.
SO YOU NEED TO CONSUME ANTI OXIDES TO SCAVENGE THE WASTE OXIDES OUT OF THE BODY.
SIMPLE
GET IT.
BY CHANGING TERMS AND MEANINGS, THE MEDICAL PROFESSION DEMONISES BOTH OXYGEN AND ANTI OXIDENTS. SUBTLE BUT STUPID.
GL |
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