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Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century update mms2 pg 51

 
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mms2 is pool shock?
and you people are ingesting it...

i'd go with zeoheal before pool shock
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Hello Godfrey,

Hi folks just joined the site would like some insight on MMS and its efficacy in treating chronic lymphocites. My wife has been suffering for the past 3-4years with a skin ailment which we originally thought was severe excezma. The health service has scratched its head, dragged its feet and p...ed into the wind for the past years and then recently they have come up with the possibility that she may have a low grade form of skin cancer termed 'Mycosis fungoides' ...uh? all I know is that she suffers with raised lymph glands, chronic itching, hard callous hands and feet which she constantly keeps under wraps as the skin on her feet and hands harden and split into deep fissures. She also has bouts of bacterial infection which target her whole skin surface, very distressing. I have very little faith in the health service or the 'wealth service' as I've now come to call it. they are very one dimensional and pay very little attention to patients. my wife is presentely scheduled to have chemo and all the other poisonous so called treatments. I firmly belive we should take care of our own health hence my reason for coming to this site...help!

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Out of all of that you can easily take care of the bacteria infection. That may help with the rest, or not, but it will help.

The main thing to keep in mind is that in order for an oxidizer to work, the condition has to be suitable for oxidation. Next, you have to deliver the oxidizer to the pathogen in a concentration that is high enough to kill it, and it has to make contact with a pathogen for enough time to work. Finally, the person has to survive the treatment.

Keep in mind that oxidants subject the person to oxidative stress. Measures should be taken to monitor for signs of oxidative stress. Blood tests are a good place to start looking for oxidative stress. An initial test will provide a baseline to compare further tests to. Since this is a topical application, the blood work probably isn't necessary, but if you decide to try an internal application the blood work is highly recommended.

MMS is a 22.4% concentration of sodium chlorite that is dangerous to handle. If you start with that, you should dilute it down to a 5% concentration that is much safer to handle. You can do everything with the 5% concentration that you can with the 22.4% solution and it is much safer to handle.

To get rid of the bacterial infection put 2.5 ml of 5% sodium chlorite in a glass, add 2.5 ml of 10% citric acid, swirl to mix and let it activate for 10 minutes. Next, add this to 500 ml of water and put it into a spray bottle. After washing the area, spray some of this on and let it air dry.

The bacteria will be immediately killed off, but it may take a day or two for the infection to heal.

Keep in mind that this is a band aide to kick start the body into healing itself. The real issues will only be corrected by figuring out what is causing the problems and addressing that. Herbs, vitamins, supplements, diet and so on will be needed to find true healing. This will get you started, but you have to go much further for true healing.

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Thanks Tom, appreciate the insight. I had already purchased some MMS and activator the 1:1 recommendation. At present we are both on 3 drops five times a day (internally) as detailed by the experts. would this compilation be appropriate for what you are suggesting we do in order to deal with any bacterial infection, and how do I reduce the MMS from 22.4% to 5%?

Many Thanks

Godfrey
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Chlorine will fuck you up so don't use this product unless you absolutely have to.
It is effective, so I am not flaming it....just saying is all.
It is, to me, kind of a last resort if all else has failed or is unavailable.
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Hello Godfrey,

If I understand you correctly, you have MMS (28% by weight and 22.4% actual sodium chlorite) and 50% citric acid.

To make 5% sodium chlorite, put 22 ml of MMS into a measuring device and add enough water to make a total of 100 ml. You now have 100 ml of 5% sodium chlorite. Use distilled water if possible.

To make 10% citric acid from 50% citric acid, put 20 ml of the 50% into a measuring device and add enough water to make a total of 100 ml. You now have 100 ml of 10% citric acid. Use distilled water if possible.

If you are ingesting that much and still have the bacterial infection, it is not getting the job done. Mix up what I outlined and spray it topically. It will work until the diet can be changed to rebuild the body.

Also, keep a journal so that you can review the effectiveness of your efforts and maintain perspective on how things are going.

Tom
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Hello #1056621,

You are correct, chlorine can screw you up...

However, chlorine dioxide and chlorous acid have as much chlorine as salt does...

I guess salt can screw you up too.

With all chemicals it is important to know what you are dealing with and to use caution when using them. These chemicals have been well studied and safe handling precautions and safe use practices are available by doing a simple search. When you stray outside of the safe use practice is when you start running the possibility of getting into trouble.

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MMS can cause a person to feel better, because it acts as an immune suppressant. When you take certain poisons, it can beat down the immune system of the body so much that it stops displaying negative symptoms. This appears to be the case the EPA-registered pesticide, chlorine dioxide (M.M.S.).

Before you begin your attacks, and claim that this is harmless, you should read in to the fact that at least one person has died from this, at which point Jim Humble decided to blame the dead victim and her grieving husband. Chlorine dioxide is known for it's harm. It will kill pathogens, and it will also kill insects. It can the capacity to seriously injury people, and kill them (though usually over an extended period).

Here is a public debate between MMS founder Jim Humble and The Health Wyze Report:

[link to healthwyze.org]
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MMS can cause a person to feel better, because it acts as an immune suppressant. When you take certain poisons, it can beat down the immune system of the body so much that it stops displaying negative symptoms. This appears to be the case the EPA-registered pesticide, chlorine dioxide (M.M.S.).

Before you begin your attacks, and claim that this is harmless, you should read in to the fact that at least one person has died from this, at which point Jim Humble decided to blame the dead victim and her grieving husband. Chlorine dioxide is known for it's harm. It will kill pathogens, and it will also kill insects. It can the capacity to seriously injury people, and kill them (though usually over an extended period).

Here is a public debate between MMS founder Jim Humble and The Health Wyze Report:

[link to healthwyze.org]
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MMS KILLS people !!

[link to www.smh.com.au]

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Well as people say the proof is in the pudding. I have taken MMS for over 2 years now and have only good thing to say about it. I have reservations about MMS 2. But the original MMS has only benefited me. It has made my life of pain go away. I can now sleep through the night pain free.

I have used it to completely eliminate dengue fever symtoms in less that 12 hrs. without them returning after only two doses one hr apart (15drop doses) a good friend had the same result using only 2 doses of 8 drops each one hr apart. I have a friend that had full blown aids was skin and bones and it now back working. Doctor say its like he never had it and are questioning there original diagnosis. So for those who are government shills trying to suppress the information about MMS and scaare people into not trying it you have been outed. just my 2 cents and two years experience using MMS. Rken
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Well as people say the proof is in the pudding. I have taken MMS for over 2 years now and have only good thing to say about it. I have reservations about MMS 2. But the original MMS has only benefited me. It has made my life of pain go away. I can now sleep through the night pain free.

I have used it to completely eliminate dengue fever symtoms in less that 12 hrs. without them returning after only two doses one hr apart (15drop doses) a good friend had the same result using only 2 doses of 8 drops each one hr apart. I have a friend that had full blown aids was skin and bones and it now back working. Doctor say its like he never had it and are questioning there original diagnosis. So for those who are government shills trying to suppress the information about MMS and scaare people into not trying it you have been outed. just my 2 cents and two years experience using MMS. Rken
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Shut your foul mouth you quack ... MMS KILLS PEOPLE

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Well as people say the proof is in the pudding. I have taken MMS for over 2 years now and have only good thing to say about it. I have reservations about MMS 2. But the original MMS has only benefited me. It has made my life of pain go away. I can now sleep through the night pain free.

I have used it to completely eliminate dengue fever symptoms in less that 12 hrs. without them returning after only two doses one hr apart (15drop doses) a good friend had the same result using only 2 doses of 8 drops each one hr apart. I have a friend that had full blown aids was skin and bones and it now back working. Doctor say its like he never had it and are questioning there original diagnosis. So for those who are government shills trying to suppress the information about MMS and scare people into not trying it you have been outed. just my 2 cents and two years experience using MMS. Rken

Shut your foul mouth you quack ... MMS KILLS PEOPLE

[link to www.smh.com.au]

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Water will kill you if you drink to much. I have read your link and while I regret this womens death there is more to this story that needs to be told. I would love to see the autopsy. I will await its release. I can only tell you my experiences with mms. They have all been beneficial. You sir can believe what ever you like. Doctors with there drugs kill thousands every year. Are they quacks and because a person has a bad reaction are their drugs immediately condemned. No they are investigated to find out why most people can take them but some have a negative reaction. MMS is very powerful and should be taken with care. Starting with a very small amount 1 drop and working your way up. Large doses produce the type of symptom this women experienced, so its safe to say that he did not follow this advise. also should someone experience this type of reaction Vit C will immediately counteract these types of symptoms. I having read your link will continue to MMS as needed as I said the benefits have been astounding.
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It seem strange that there has been no release in over 6 months of her autopsy report. I would think her husband would be eager to have his belief that MMS was the cause of her death. He posted on another forum and was asked for the repost. Nothing so far. 6 mths hmmmmmmm
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Peer reviewed studies anyone?
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I am all for more oxygen in the blood, even got an oxygen bar at home, if he wants the world to be able to get this why does he charge for the second ebooK, he could have put how to make it in the first ebook. Just another way to make money from sick people, sell them hope, you can make millions on hope
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I am all for more oxygen in the blood, even got an oxygen bar at home, if he wants the world to be able to get this why does he charge for the second ebooK, he could have put how to make it in the first ebook. Just another way to make money from sick people, sell them hope, you can make millions on hope
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If you want to know how to make it just ask. Not difficult. Sodium chlorite when you buy it is 80%. You want to make a solution that is appox 22.4 percent. So you simply add enough distilled water to make a 22.4 percent solution. 500 grams makes about 14 two ounce bottles. I buy it in Thailand for $35usd for 500 grams. easy
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I having read your link will continue to MMS as needed as I said the benefits have been astounding.
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Drink pool-cleaner ... its the same stuff ... but you are the one behind MMS and we are going to bring you down, I promise you that.
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I am all for more oxygen in the blood, even got an oxygen bar at home, if he wants the world to be able to get this why does he charge for the second ebooK, he could have put how to make it in the first ebook. Just another way to make money from sick people, sell them hope, you can make millions on hope
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Exactly. If you want to get more oxygen into the blood in a safe way, chlorophyll is known for doing that. "Chloro" in the name is not related to chlorine, by the way. Chlorophyll is responsible for the green pigment of plants, and the primary action of photosynthesis. It doesn't kill people, either.
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Forget this kind of shit. You're far better off drinking just human PISS
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I having read your link will continue to MMS as needed as I said the benefits have been astounding.

Drink pool-cleaner ... its the same stuff ... but you are the one behind MMS and we are going to bring you down, I promise you that.
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You are a joke. Do some research before you open your pie hole. Any one who has knows that you are all mouth and no brains and have not done your homework. Have you bothered to read the studies done using human and animals with Sodium chlorite. Did you know that Canada is in the last testing phases which a drug for Aids thats active ingredient is sodium chlorite activated to produce chlorine dioxide. Look up the patents for f-10 and see for yourself.

Sodium chlorite is not the same as pool chlorine. Chlorine mixes with other things in water and can create carcinogens sodium chlorite doesn't. The list of uses and studies go on and on if you care to do the research. But know its easier for you probably a paid shill by the big Pharmaceutical companies to just bash away.
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I having read your link will continue to MMS as needed as I said the benefits have been astounding.

Drink pool-cleaner ... its the same stuff ... but you are the one behind MMS and we are going to bring you down, I promise you that.

You are a joke. Do some research before you open your pie hole. Any one who has knows that you are all mouth and no brains and have not done your homework. Have you bothered to read the studies done using human and animals with Sodium chlorite. Did you know that Canada is in the last testing phases which a drug for Aids thats active ingredient is sodium chlorite activated to produce chlorine dioxide. Look up the patents for f-10 and see for yourself.

Sodium chlorite is not the same as pool chlorine. Chlorine mixes with other things in water and can create carcinogens sodium chlorite doesn't. The list of uses and studies go on and on if you care to do the research. But know its easier for you probably a paid shill by the big Pharmaceutical companies to just bash away.
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Again, any peer reviewed studies/journals about this and how it works? It's contraindications? It's mechanism of action? It's bio-availability? It's metabolic half-life?
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Sodium chlorite is not the same as pool chlorine.
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No, chlorine dioxide is... which is MMS. Stop trying to avoid the facts here. Chlorine dioxide is the same stuff used in pools, as a disinfectant for severe mold, a pesticide (EPA-registered) and to bleach flour and paper.
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Sodium chlorite is not the same as pool chlorine.


No, chlorine dioxide is... which is MMS. Stop trying to avoid the facts here. Chlorine dioxide is the same stuff used in pools, as a disinfectant for severe mold, a pesticide (EPA-registered) and to bleach flour and paper.
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Not trying to avoid any issues or fact. Maybe you should check your fact Chlorine dioxide is not the same thing as pool chlorine. Chlorine dioxide is a gas. It is only formed when sodium chlorite is mixed with an acid base. Pool chlorine in sodium hypochloride.
Sodium hypochlorite is a chemical compound with the formula NaOCl. Sodium hypochlorite solution, commonly known as bleach, is frequently used as a disinfectant or a bleaching agent.

clorine dioxide is:
Chlorine dioxide is a chemical compound with the formula ClO2. This yellowish-green gas crystallizes as orange crystals at −59 °C. As one of several oxides of chlorine, it is a potent and useful oxidizing agent used in water treatment and in bleaching.[1]

As you can see they are different chemical. with different atomic structures. MMS2 is sodium hypochlorite. I do not recommend it at this point.

But MMS the original is sodium chorite and when mixed with an acid produces Cl02 clorine dioxide.



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Cl02 clorine dioxide.
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LD50 292 mg/kg (oral, rat)
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Sodium chlorite is not the same as pool chlorine.


No, chlorine dioxide is... which is MMS. Stop trying to avoid the facts here. Chlorine dioxide is the same stuff used in pools, as a disinfectant for severe mold, a pesticide (EPA-registered) and to bleach flour and paper.

Not trying to avoid any issues or fact. Maybe you should check your fact Chlorine dioxide is not the same thing as pool chlorine. Chlorine dioxide is a gas. It is only formed when sodium chlorite is mixed with an acid base. Pool chlorine in sodium hypochloride.
Sodium hypochlorite is a chemical compound with the formula NaOCl. Sodium hypochlorite solution, commonly known as bleach, is frequently used as a disinfectant or a bleaching agent.

clorine dioxide is:
Chlorine dioxide is a chemical compound with the formula ClO2. This yellowish-green gas crystallizes as orange crystals at −59 °C. As one of several oxides of chlorine, it is a potent and useful oxidizing agent used in water treatment and in bleaching.[1]

As you can see they are different chemical. with different atomic structures. MMS2 is sodium hypochlorite. I do not recommend it at this point.

But MMS the original is sodium chorite and when mixed with an acid produces Cl02 clorine dioxide.



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Yawn.

"The best way to store chlorine dioxide is as a liquid at 4 ºC. At this state it is fairly stable. Chlorine dioxide cannot be stored for too long, because it slowly dissociates into chlorine and oxygen. It is rarely stored as a gas, because it is explosive under pressure."

Why don't you go and buy some for your swimming pool here: [link to www.tradevv.com] ?
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So.. I just received an e-mail today. The FDA is hunting down MMS (well, at least in your country the USA).

You'd better stock on it if you are of the ones that have been using it and getting good results.

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So.. I just received an e-mail today. The FDA is hunting down MMS (well, at least in your country the USA).

You'd better stock on it if you are of the ones that have been using it and getting good results.

peace, yoda
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Ah shit.

R u in D.R.?

Nice place to be.

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