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Breakthrough! MMS The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century update mms2 pg 51

 
Duncan Kunz

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WHO IS STUPID, DUNCAN KUNZ OR THE DOCTOR?
 Quoting: GREY LENSMAN

You are.
Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim?
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Not liking the sound of this.........
Chlorine Dioxide is pretty nasty stuff....
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It's also not a mineral.
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Not liking the sound of this.........
Chlorine Dioxide is pretty nasty stuff....

It's also not a mineral.
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Then don't try it then. It's not for you. It's for those who are sick and tired of mainstream medicine. So far, it looks like MMS had killed noone.
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GREY LENSMAN

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09/24/2007 12:15 PM
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SO DUNCAN SAYS

HE WOULD RATHER DIE AND HE CALLS ME STUPID.

ONE BORN EVERY DAY AND KEEPS THE DOCS IN NEW MERCS.

GL
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farmgirl

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09/24/2007 03:47 PM
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Just discovered this site this afternoon. Was not surprised to read all the sceptics' comments...:) Thought I'd contribute some anecdotal evidence (but only for those who are open to it! Sceptics need not read any further...)

My father-in-law was recommended this product by his naturpath. He was diagnosed with Sjogren's disease about a year ago and had all the debilitating symptoms: dry eyes (needed drops every few hours), dry mouth (needed to drink water with meals/food), and much lower energy level. Since taking MMS for the last month and a half, he has had an amazing recovery: no longer needs eye drops at all, sleeps like a baby at night, and has no dry mouth at all. As well, he has resumed his passion, tennis (at 71 years of age!)

He is taking approximately 20 drops a day, but started out slowly with only 2-4 drops a day. He did experience some nausea at the onset, but as toxins left his system, those symptoms also left and he feels better than he has in years.

My husband and I have been taking it as well for the last few weeks, and again, there have been some great developments - my husband's chronic eye problems (redness, itchiness) have all but disappeared, and he is sleeping more restfully. He, also, experienced some mild nausea and diahrea at the onset.

Read the literature, both Books 1 and 2, then try it for yourselves. Chances are, you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Liatris
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Hi Farm Girl - Good to hear from someone taking it. Did any of you change ANYTHING about diet, lifestyle, etc. at the same time you started the MMS ? In other words, could there be anything else that could have brought about or even added to this change ? Did anyone STOP taking a drug, even ? I am wondering which distributor you got yours from ? I assume the man Kenneth in Canada ?

Thank you,

Liatris
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My computer is so screwed up that I cannot even download the first part of Jim Humble's info. Has anyone here made the stuff as per directions ? From what i know it is 28% solution of sodium chlorite in distilled water - BUT according to the Material Safety Data Sheet on it, it s HIGHLY reactive and can cause fires and explosions in the dried form - not supposed to even put it wood or clothing or anything combustable ! Making it without blowing yourself up sounds pretty specific. Has anyone make it ?

Thanks,

Liatris
James Ellision

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09/28/2007 03:31 AM
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I HAVE READ BOUGHT IT AND ARE USING IT..........ITS WHAT IT SAYS IT IS........THE REST OF YOU JUST THINK ABOUT IT RATHER THEN ACT!

THINKING ALONE WILL NOT MAKE YOU HEALTHY......BEWARE OF THE DISINFORMATION ABOUT THIS.......

JUST MAKE AND TRY IT AND SEE THE DIFFERENCE YOURSELF.

AND BE QUICK BECAUSE ONCE PEOPLE START TO USE IT AND CURE THEMSELVES THE RAW MATERIALS WILL BECOME VERY EXPENSIVE AND OR WILL DISAPPEAR FROM THE MARKET.

DISHONEST AND LAZY INDIVIDUALS CANNOT HAVE HONEST PRODUCTIVE PEOPLE LIVING LONGER OR BEING HEALTHY!!!!!

REMEMBER:



STOP THINKING ABOUT IT AND JUST DO AND DO IT NOW!
FARMGIRL
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09/28/2007 06:51 AM
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Hey, Liatris

Nope, didn't change anything else dietwise...If you read all the literature and completely understand the chain of chemical reactions that are occurring when you take the MMS, it all makes perfect sense.

An interesting thing to add, is that I was very healthy before I started taking the drops, no issues to address, and have done a herbal detox, twice a year, for the last two years. My mother died of colon cancer, so my health awareness is certainly there. Anyhow, other than grimacing at the taste when I got up to the 15 drop dose, I have noticed no difference in anything, from BM's to tiredness, etc. My husband's eyes don't bother him at all anymore, and he's still sleeping very well.

The protocol is to initially stay at 15 drops, twice a day, for 2 weeks (if you are feeling well), then back down to 4 or 6 drops a day as a maintenance. I will stay with "the program" to see if any subtle changes are yet to occur -- they say that can happen later.

Will keep anyone who's interested posted.
farmgirl
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09/28/2007 06:55 AM
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I didn't answer your question about the distributor in Canada, yes it was Kenny out West. I agree with further comments on the site about getting the drops before the pharmaceuticals shut Dr.Humble down. :(
Liatris
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Hey FarmGirl,

Thank you for your reply. I have read so many accounts of people getting bad diarrhea that I am a bit worried to try it because I get mucous colitis by intestinal irritatants and it can take very long to heal. It is NOT only those who go fast and do not ramp up slowly on dosing who have problems. Some have serious trouble staying at only one drop. I wonder if it could help edema/water build up in the tissues. I wonder what effect(if any) it has on lymphatics.

Please do keep us posted on your progess. Really appreciate it.

Liatris
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I ordered the hard copy book rather than download it. Who knows when one's computer might go down and all that info lost?

I started taking the one drop Wednesday. The instructions say to drink the mix within the hour. Since there is an hour to drink it, I sip until it's gone. Up to 3 drops today, in 3 oz. of water. With no adverse affects, it makes you want to take it twice a day, but that might be pushing it. I have a serious health problem.

I am the one who thought a boil on the bottom was surfacing when it was not! After treating for boil for 2 weeks, I went to a holistic doctor. Made a couple of visits. I am apprehensive about using black salve because of where the growth is located. The process of using the black salve further up in order to draw it out roots and all would be very painful.

It seems reasonable to me that MMS will go through the bloodstream and attack the thing at the root while I attack from the surface with Tetrasil. Already the thing is softening. Should be competely gone in a month or two. :)
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Liatris
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Hi Anon. Cow. - Neat ! Soften that thing ! Please keep us posted on your progress !

Continued Success !

Liatris
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09/28/2007 11:39 AM
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How on earth are we who live outside the US going to get the stuff??

The US distributor, Global Light, is not so global as they do not export to other countries. They mention two UK distributors for Europe, but one of them is inactive and the other is a magazine with no mention of MMS or any other products at all.

Anyhow, where I live the sodium chlorite is not sold to the public and I suspect I would have difficulties getting the MMS bottles through customs without hassle anyway since they view the sodium chlorite so sternly.

Hmmm, what to do??
Liatris
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I called a local chemical company and they were willing to sell me USP (Pharmaceutical grade) sodium chlorite. You make a 28% solution using distilled water. Quite sure that means 28 grams of the powder to a total of 100 milliters of the liquid mixed with the sodium chlorite powder (or mayb it is granules). BUT !!! Read up on temperatures to store it at (below100 degrees F, I think is ok - but check it out) AND it should not touch certain materials like paper or wood or clothing or anything combustible because it could get so hot as to ignite a fire. Also, a dust cloud of it could cause an explosion if a spark happened nearby. I am looking into finding out more. I have heard metal and glass are ok - but they should not ave any residues in them. Also, sodium chlorite should nt be mixed with anything (?) "organic" (meaning contains carbon). I think with proper info, it is doable.
Liatris
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But, I live in the US. Maybe you could call and enquire as a business and perhaps the chemical company would sell to you.
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How on earth are we who live outside the US going to get the stuff??

Hmmm, what to do??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 304783


The next best thing to do is do is try magnesium chloride:

"The immune system needs a great deal more hypochlorous acid when disease is present. Facilitated by the MMS solution, chlorine dioxide delivers it in spades, as does magnesium chloride, but that’s another part of the health discussion."

[link to phaelosopher.wordpress.com]

This would do until we can somehow find a source of MMS for you. I suggest you read the above website page, then find out more about magnesium chloride...where to get it, how much to take, etc.
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This would do until we can somehow find a source of MMS for you. I suggest you read the above website page, then find out more about magnesium chloride...where to get it, how much to take, etc.
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Thanks, I'll check this out.
Anonymous Coward
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first: I am not sure what you regard a 'potty mouth'....
See the post immediately above your first post to me (or the one above this one). This is typical of the local "researchers" who, lacking any evidence or even the ability to lay out a coherent response like you do, sink to dirtbag-speak.


second: Looks like your insecure button got pushed.


I don't see it that way. If I were insecure about myself, I might try to hide behind the "anonymous coward" thing, too.


third: my name is anonymous coward but you can call me coward if that helps you feel better about yourself

I think that your not being able to identify yourself -- or preferring not to -- says more about you than it does about me.


fourth: I do have a pretty good understanding of how this mixture works. I have worked with sodium chlorite for about 3 years now in a lab...albeit in application to metallurgical procedures..not as a mineral supplement.


As an engineer, I know how AISI 4130 steel behaves, yet I don't know squat about it as a mineral supplement either. Since neither of us knows anything about its medicinal properties, it becomes all the more important for us to get some evidence from people who actually do understand such properties, and I doubt very seriously you'll find any of them here.

fifth: to you, the trials need to be published, peer reviewed and then ACCEPTED by the establishment BEFORE you will step up to the plate and 'risk' your 'reputation'

Perhaps it's because I was trained in college and for 30 years in aerospace to look for evidence and not wishful thinking.


you certainly could be called a coward.


I say who I am. I post with my true name, and my company, and my e-mail. I am not ashamed or embarrassed of who I am. If you equate skepticism with "cowardice" then you must equate people who don't believe in the tooth gay or Santa Claus as cowards, too.

sixth: you are the common critic that makes claims that you KNOW this a sham WITHOUT evidence at all.

Do you have an example?


BUT ..you will DEMAND evidence from those that have experienced the efficacy of the product. ...and until they can PROVE it to you on YOUR terms,...then it is a SHAM by default.

I don't demand anything, kid. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you say you have a 1998 Harley Davidson, I will accept that on its face value, because lots of people have them. If you say you have a 1952 Vincent Black Lightning, I won't believe it until I see it.

There has never in the history of the human race -- at least as far as I or any scientist knows -- a mineral or supplement which does Sodium chlorite is claimed to do. Now some fool says it will cure just about every disease extant with no evidence whatsoever, and a bunch of other naifs jump on it out of wishful thinking.


can you see the flaw in your attack of nearly everything on this forum?

I am willing to believe anything for which there is some sort of concrete evidence. Unlike most of the people on this forum I do not confuse that which is with that which I want it to be.

I hardly consider that a flaw.
 Quoting: Duncan Kunz


duncan klitz

do you demand the same level of scrutiny from big pharma that makes billions off of worker drones like you and your employer...who exist only thru the corruption and largesse of big government.

have you bothered to research the fraud of big pharmas clinical studies?

you, sir, are a know nothing moron..please leave the little minds alone to make their own decisions
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Hi Anon. Cow. - Neat ! Soften that thing ! Please keep us posted on your progress !

Continued Success !

Liatris
 Quoting: Liatris 304673


I will keep you all posted on the battle against the growth. I really think that MMS is the way to go, taken internally, and the ointment getting the thing from the outside. I'm excited.

I hope Evil Twin will do likewise before taking his skin lesion to mainstream medicine. For twenty bucks for the MMS and a bottle of vinegar, it's worth a try.

Thank you, Liatris, for your wish for my success! :)
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Just a comment about who people who are reacting badly (ie.diahrrea, etc) after taking MMS drops...my husband and I both agree that those people probably have lots of stuff going on in their systems and that's why they are reacting.

I'm sure that the fact that we have been eating very health-consciously for the last 5-10 years had alot to do with the drops not affecting us too drastically.(We do not eat only vegetarian or organic - rather, whole grains, lots of fresh fruits and vegetables, grown in our own garden, small meat portions - basically eating sensibly and exercising regularly)
As well, I have detoxed regularly (albeit gently) for the last few years.

I have not undergone any "side effects" at all, per se, but aside from his eyes clearing up and sleeping better, my husband has noticed other subtle improvements: hardly any plaque buildup on his teeth overnight (sometimes a problem), more regular bowel movements, and clearing up of his sinuses.

Because the MMS reaction works through the bloodstream, I imagine it is hitting all target areas in the body, although if there is a huge problem in the small intestine, for instance, it may all get used up there, without treating other problem areas in the body that are a lower priority (just a guess..)

I'll see if there are any more noticeable improvements as I do the 2 week course at 15 drops twice daily... will keep you posted every few days.
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Just a comment about who people who are reacting badly (ie.diahrrea, etc) after taking MMS drops...my husband and I both agree that those people probably have lots of stuff going on in their systems and that's why they are reacting.

I'm sure that the fact that we have been eating very health-consciously for the last 5-10 years had alot to do with the drops not affecting us too drastically.(We do not eat only vegetarian or organic - rather, whole grains, lots of fresh fruits and vegetables, grown in our own garden, small meat portions - basically eating sensibly and exercising regularly)
As well, I have detoxed regularly (albeit gently) for the last few years.

I have not undergone any "side effects" at all, per se, but aside from his eyes clearing up and sleeping better, my husband has noticed other subtle improvements: hardly any plaque buildup on his teeth overnight (sometimes a problem), more regular bowel movements, and clearing up of his sinuses.

Because the MMS reaction works through the bloodstream, I imagine it is hitting all target areas in the body, although if there is a huge problem in the small intestine, for instance, it may all get used up there, without treating other problem areas in the body that are a lower priority (just a guess..)

I'll see if there are any more noticeable improvements as I do the 2 week course at 15 drops twice daily... will keep you posted every few days.
 Quoting: Farmgirl 304723


Kudos, Farmgirl!

Just to let you know, there are other readers out here like me who are interested in this new protocol and looking forward to your progress reports.

Thank you!
Liatris
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Hi FarmGirl - 5a I Love Jim Carrey's energy ...Thanks for your thoughts. I dunno though because I have been reading a lot of testimonials all over the net and some people who are really sick do not get diarrhea and it seems many who report that they are well are getting the diarrhea and oddly, in Jim Humble's Part One he only mentions diarrhea once. I don't know if he just thinks people will get really put off regarding trying it or just thinks that they will think it rude of him to mention it - but all those words and only one mention of diarrhea seems all out of proportion to what is being reported here. I wonder what is going on with this. Maybe I will email Jim Humble and see what his comment is.

Nice to hear from you, again.

Liatris
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Judging by his dance, Jim Carrey obviously suffered no side effects from his MMS dose!

There are several blogs out there now with testimonials from people using MMS. One can be found at Planet Earth (lots of lyme disease victims). Hopefully I am not breaking any privacy protocol by providing a link to a question and answer page with Jim Humble that I found via this blog. It is www.healthsalon.org/304/jim-humble-answers-questions-on-the-u​se-of-MMS
and I found that it answered lots of my questions. If I've done a typo hear, just try healthsalon.org and find the link there. I've read that he is constantly bombarded with emails and just doesn't have time to read and reply to all of them, as he is still working on his end of the research.

Again, I think each individual will have a unique response to the MMS, and the more symptoms/issues that are present in their system, the more dramatic reactions will be produced. The key, as Jim Humble repeats many, many times, is to go very slowly..
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Hello All,

I am new here. I wanted to introduce you to my blog.
At www.HealthSalon.org I am endeavoring to collect as much info as I can on MMS. This blog does not sell any product. It is for information only.

I have been on MMS for about 2 weeks and currently on 12 drops 2 times a day. I intend to work up to 15 and hold that for two weeks. I am unsure if I will remain at drops indefinately as the author suggests.

I do have a couple of testimonials posted and a couple of folks who are dealing with serious disease have agreed to write a testimonial, whether good or bad when they are ready. I hope they do. We need some good antedotal evidience.

If anyone here wants to write a truthful testmonial for the site please do. You can contact me through the blog by posting a comment anywhere and I will get back to you.

I an not very impressed by the double blind studies done by pharmaceutical companies. Regardless of their studies their drugs kill and damage people and cause further chronic disease and pollute our natural waterways.

You might want to look at these links. No mention of MMS but I can see it being used in a few of the photos. The newpaper article only mentions vitamins and minerals.


www.malariasolution.org/InTheNews_December2006.html
www.malariasolution.org/

Best,
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Thomas L. Hesselink, M.D. writes on MMS and Malaria

www.bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXilus.htm

www.bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXhome.htm

You science buffs out there - please read and report what you think.

At the very end of the first link it is stated that toxic levels are unknown and
that at the time of the writing the author was aware of people taking 2 to 3 doses a week. For some years now people have been taking it in daily doses, some for extended periods of time without known symtomatic side effects.
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Video from African Clinic using MMS

www.mlivingstone.co.uk/page2.html
go to the bottom and click on the red words.
The old guy with the white beard is Jim Humble.
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I've checked out T.Hesselink's website, where, as a trained chemist, he endorses the viability of MMS as an extremely powerful method of destroying pathogens (he talks specifically about malaria, but says later that it should certainly work for other diseases). At the end of Jim Humbles Book 2 is a scientific analysis of his MMS by a Mexican researcher - well worth the read, too.

Progress report: My husband and I are still taking our 15 drops once a day (we take it before going to bed, with apple cider - no added Vitamin C - makes it go down MUCH better than with water!!:)

We are both still sleeping very well, let you know if there are any other changes. My husband did have mild diahrrea for 2-3 weeks when he hit the 15 drop level, but that has finally ended, with no difference at all in his BM's.
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I started taking the one drop Wednesday. The instructions say to drink the mix within the hour. Since there is an hour to drink it, I sip until it's gone. Up to 3 drops today, in 3 oz. of water. With no adverse affects, it makes you want to take it twice a day, but that might be pushing it.

I am the one who thought a boil on the bottom was surfacing when it was not!
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A progress report:

Day 9 on MMS finds the tumor so soft to the touch that I can barely feel it when applying Tetrasil topically to it and the surrounding tissues. I felt lousy all day Tuesday, so left off the MMS thinking that the dead cells floating around in my bloodstream made me toxic. I had a bout of diarrhea that was handled nicely with Immodium. Got back on schedule, but went back to 4 drops yesterday. After reading the posts here, I might have been further down the road had I taken 4 drops 2Xday. Will begin that today. I was waiting until the hard copy book comes. This is the ONLY way to go as far as I'm concerned.

I am extremely grateful to the OP for starting this thread. It probably saved my life.

I encourage everyone to read the website posted here so you don't have to go back to page 1. The life you save may be your own or that of someone else:

[link to phaelosopher.wordpress.com]
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