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Morbid Jane
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Vaccine Ingredients:
[link to poisonevercure.150m.com]
[link to www.vaccinesafety.edu]

Autism:
[link to www.safeminds.org]

You should see this video "Autism Every Day." I bawled like a baby!
[link to www.autismspeaks.org]
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vaccines are a necessary evil. no one gets polio or smallpox anymore thank god. let the scientists have more money so they can fix the vaccines ok?
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vaccines are a necessary evil. no one gets polio or smallpox anymore thank god. let the scientists have more money so they can fix the vaccines ok?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300425

Let the scientists have more money? Fix the vaccines? What the heck are you talking about?

Big Pharma is one of the richest industries on the planet. If they wanted to take harmful substances out of vaccines, they could've done it decades ago.

There's absolutely no reason vaccines should contain crap like mercury, viruses, aluminum, formaldehyde, etc.

Vaccines aren't even double-blind tested for efficacy or safety.

My conclusion: vaccines are a scam!
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vaccines are a necessary evil. no one gets polio or smallpox anymore thank god. let the scientists have more money so they can fix the vaccines ok?

Let the scientists have more money? Fix the vaccines? What the heck are you talking about?

Big Pharma is one of the richest industries on the planet. If they wanted to take harmful substances out of vaccines, they could've done it decades ago.

There's absolutely no reason vaccines should contain crap like mercury, viruses, aluminum, formaldehyde, etc.

Vaccines aren't even double-blind tested for efficacy or safety.

My conclusion: vaccines are a scam!
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I didn't bring up big pharma -- you did.

Vaccines are researched with public funds and public organizations. many of them non-profit, who manage to save millions of lives in the west, and now in africa - or does that bother you?
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I didn't bring up big pharma -- you did.

Vaccines are researched with public funds and public organizations. many of them non-profit, who manage to save millions of lives in the west, and now in africa - or does that bother you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300425

You have no clue what you're talking about.

Vaccines don't save lives.

I guess you didn't bother reading the OP's links.
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vaccines are a necessary evil. no one gets polio or smallpox anymore thank god. let the scientists have more money so they can fix the vaccines ok?
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Innoculations actually had nothing to do with the decline of those diseases, in fact polio is still around but has been relabeled.
There are some graffs and a film with doctors explaining this much.
[link to www.vaccination.inoz.com]
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I didn't bring up big pharma -- you did.

Vaccines are researched with public funds and public organizations. many of them non-profit, who manage to save millions of lives in the west, and now in africa - or does that bother you?

You have no clue what you're talking about.

Vaccines don't save lives.

I guess you didn't bother reading the OP's links.
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Fortunately, longitudinal data from ICDDR,Bs Matlab surveillance system were once again used to answer an important public health question on vaccination effectiveness. Nowhere else in the developing world does this type of high quality data exist from a large population over an extended period of time. As reported in the Lancet (Breimen R, et al. |PubMed| |full text|) by Rob Breiman and colleagues from ICDDRB and the Centers for Disease Control in the United States, immunization programmes do indeed save lives. The Matlab data allowed Dr. Breiman to study the impact of vaccination on over 40,000 children who were followed from 1986 to 2001 with over 50 million child-days of observation. Since the field workers record every vaccination given to these children as well as record the mortality experience of this group, it is possible to link the risk of death with the receipt of different vaccines over the decades since vaccines were being introduced. The Matlab data also include critical information that allows scientists to adjust for confounding variables (e.g. accidents, outward migration, socio-economic status) that might influence the results.



Among the many interesting findings from the study, in addition to the obvious life-saving benefits from routine DPT vaccines, was the disappearance of measles infections as a result of the routine vaccines being administered in Matlab since the mid 1980s. Unfortunately, measles continues to be a major problem in many developing countries including other parts of Bangladesh, but data from Matlab shows what benefits can be achieved with a consistent immunization programme.



Thankfully, the families of Matlab benefit from the health services offered to them. Also, fortunately, the scientific staff in Matlab maintain these high quality data that allow for careful evaluation and documentation of the benefits of these services. This critical and accurate monitoring of vaccination impact was possible only because of the ICDDR,B demographic surveillance system that has been sustained in Matlab since 1966.
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Vaccination - The Hidden Truth
[link to video.google.com]

15 speakers, including 5 medical doctors, plus researchers, parents and a registered dog breeder reveal the true, well documented answers to:

Was it vaccines that saved us?

Do vaccines prevent or cause diseases?

Can statistics be misleading?

What poisons do vaccinations contain?

What damage are vaccines causing?

Are childhood diseases really "deadly"?

Why does vaccination continue?

What are our rights?

Can damage be evaluated and countered?

What is the true key to immunity?

Presents orthodox medical research.

Fully informs in just 90 mins.

Nothing is safe from the vaccine invasion, not even our genes.
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1) Isn’t the polio virus very dangerous? The polio virus rarely makes you sick, and in the rare cases you get sick it is usually just like having a cold.

2) If the polio virus is not normally dangerous, what causes the paralysis? Epidemics of polio, in which there were cases of paralytic polio, were not recorded to occur until 1887. This is why polio is called a “20th century disease”, even though the polio virus itself has been around for a very long time. What made it start to occur? This is because what provokes it is intramuscular injections, particularly vaccinations, and before the late 1800s, intramuscular injections were never given on mass. Terms such as “provocation poliomyelitis” and “vaccine-associated poliomyelitis” are used when referring to it in medical research for this reason. Polio epidemics have always followed on from intensified vaccination programs.

3) Didn’t vaccination eliminate polio? Polio had declined from its peak in 1950 by 80-90% by the time the polio vaccine was introduced in 1956, so the vaccine was not responsible for its decline. Indeed after the vaccine was introduced, the incidence and deaths from polio increased, which was a major problem.

4) So what did eliminate polio? This is where it gets interesting. In 1958 the definition of polio was changed to make the diagnostic criteria so restrictive that it became almost impossible to call an illness polio even when the person suffers paralysis and the polio virus is present. Immediately this change occurred the number of cases of “polio” crashed, and the number of cases skyrocketed of “other” diseases, such as “viral meningitis” and “cerebral palsy” (up to 75% of these cases are actually polio). All the vaccines – for DPT, MMR, Hib, polio etc are still provoking polio to this day, but the word “polio” is very rarely used. When paralysis occurs it usually does not last more than a couple of days in which cases usually no diagnosis is given when they occur these days.

5) What about all those children that were in hospital wards in iron lungs? Iron lungs were found to be counterproductive for the treatment of polio so use of them discontinued. It’s as simple as that.
[link to www.vaccination.inoz.com]
graph- shows decline had nothing to do with inoculations
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Well, no one is recommending using vaccines from the 50's and 60's.

Vaccination programs are proven again and again to save millions of lives. Again, if there are problems, we can fix them by giving more money for research.

please stop your spreading lies and fear, it is bad karma.
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Well, no one is recommending using vaccines from the 50's and 60's.

Vaccination programs are proven again and again to save millions of lives. Again, if there are problems, we can fix them by giving more money for research.

please stop your spreading lies and fear, it is bad karma.
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No they have not saved lives or proven to, you are spreading lies and disinfo.......and there is no karma only Father God in heaven.
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Well, no one is recommending using vaccines from the 50's and 60's.

Vaccination programs are proven again and again to save millions of lives. Again, if there are problems, we can fix them by giving more money for research.

please stop your spreading lies and fear, it is bad karma.

No they have not saved lives or proven to, you are spreading lies and disinfo.......and there is no karma only Father God in heaven.
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that's even worse karma to say that! You'll certainly be spinning the wheels of dharma for a bit longer than necessary yourself now.
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Well, no one is recommending using vaccines from the 50's and 60's.

Vaccination programs are proven again and again to save millions of lives. Again, if there are problems, we can fix them by giving more money for research.
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Nothing has changed from the 1960's!

Today's Polio Vaccine still contaminated with Cancer-Causing SV-40 Nov 2002

A bombshell was dropped less than an hour ago at the Third International Conference on Vaccine Safety hosted by the National Vaccine Information Centre in Washington D.C.

Stanley Kops, a lawyer who has had his information on polio vaccines published in peer-reviewed medical journals and who has presented data at the Institute of Medicine (IOM) conference on SV-40 in mid-2002 (results published in October 2002), has produced proof positive that the oral polio vaccine has always been contaminated with SV-40, a monkey virus which has been linked by the FDA and other organisations with cancers such as mesothelioma and meduloblastoma.

Since 1963, we have been assured that polio vaccines have not contained this deadly contaminant.

Stanley Kops shows that not only is this not the case, but that the vaccine regulators who are charged with keeping our families safe, have known all along that SV-40 was never removed from vaccines.

The rate of childhood cancers have skyrocketed since the early 1960's. Have we been unwittingly exposing our children to one of the most feared illnesses by trying to protect them from polio with a vaccine that many European countries have never used because of the known dangers associated with them?

The AVN want to know what else we have not been told about vaccines?

The AVN calls for:

An immediate Australian Government investigation into how vaccines are tested and approved before they are introduced into this country.

Legislation to require the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) to conduct tests before approval of vaccines which they currently do not do.

Mandating that the Australian government, which currently spends hundreds of millions of dollars a year to fund unproven vaccines, provide funding for independent studies on all vaccines for content and contaminents.

[link to www.whale.to]
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Hi,

I am fairly new to this site - this is my first post/reply.

I am a mother of 5 - I had two, he had two and now we have one together - ages range from 4 years old to almost sixteen.

I found it interesting, with my first two kids (now ages 15 and 11) I vaccinated according to schedule - when my daughter was 4, she received a series of vaccines, including the flu shot. That same year, she was hospitalized for pneumonia, developed scarlet fever and generally had either a cold or flu like symptoms all the time.

My four year old was immunized at the hospital right after she was born - it is my understanding they will not release your child without those fist shots. Other than those, she has not received any vaccinations. She has never been sick (knock on wood). She is exposed to germs - plays with other kids, has 4 siblings..etc. We breed, train and show horses, she is exposed to more germs than most people.

I think a healthy lifestyle, including eating alot of homegrown fruits, vegetables and organic hormone free meat, plays a big part in it.

I wonder if the companies that make immunizations can force parents to immunize their children. I recently heard that if you take you child to a doctor and they are diagnosed with an illness (from a cold to cancer), a parent has to follow the hospital or doctors medical advice - for example, if a child is diagnosed with cancer and the doctor says chemotherapy is necessary, a parent does not have the option of pursuing other alternative treatments - ya know, the ones not FDA approved because they aren't money makers. The hospital can even have the child made a ward of the court and then do what they want and charge the parent or the insurance for any/all costs.
Does anyone have any info on ths?

Thanks.
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I recently heard that if you take you child to a doctor and they are diagnosed with an illness (from a cold to cancer), a parent has to follow the hospital or doctors medical advice - for example, if a child is diagnosed with cancer and the doctor says chemotherapy is necessary, a parent does not have the option of pursuing other alternative treatments - ya know, the ones not FDA approved because they aren't money makers. The hospital can even have the child made a ward of the court and then do what they want and charge the parent or the insurance for any/all costs.
Does anyone have any info on ths?

Thanks.
 Quoting: kea007 301439


damn, i hope this shit isn't true. but i've had to take my kids to the doctor a few times, and they haven't had to keep my kids in there for anything. so i've always treated them with natural medicines except for the antibiotics prescribed when they had rsv.

i'm beginning to think vaccines had something to do with them getting rsv. but they were preemies so the doctors said it had to do with respiratory development.
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Hi,

I am fairly new to this site - this is my first post/reply.

I am a mother of 5 - I had two, he had two and now we have one together - ages range from 4 years old to almost sixteen.

I found it interesting, with my first two kids (now ages 15 and 11) I vaccinated according to schedule - when my daughter was 4, she received a series of vaccines, including the flu shot. That same year, she was hospitalized for pneumonia, developed scarlet fever and generally had either a cold or flu like symptoms all the time.

My four year old was immunized at the hospital right after she was born - it is my understanding they will not release your child without those fist shots. Other than those, she has not received any vaccinations. She has never been sick (knock on wood). She is exposed to germs - plays with other kids, has 4 siblings..etc. We breed, train and show horses, she is exposed to more germs than most people.

I think a healthy lifestyle, including eating alot of homegrown fruits, vegetables and organic hormone free meat, plays a big part in it.

I wonder if the companies that make immunizations can force parents to immunize their children. I recently heard that if you take you child to a doctor and they are diagnosed with an illness (from a cold to cancer), a parent has to follow the hospital or doctors medical advice - for example, if a child is diagnosed with cancer and the doctor says chemotherapy is necessary, a parent does not have the option of pursuing other alternative treatments - ya know, the ones not FDA approved because they aren't money makers. The hospital can even have the child made a ward of the court and then do what they want and charge the parent or the insurance for any/all costs.
Does anyone have any info on ths?

Thanks.
 Quoting: kea007 301439


I don't think there is an actual law that allows doctors to take over the care of your child if you disagree with their method of treatment. That doesn't mean the doctor won't attempt to turn you in to Family Services or have your head cut off if you don't comply. I'm sure it happens all the time. Get a lawyer!
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Bumping for the Mom dealing with mandatory Hep B vaccines.

Good luck.


We need a lawyer with balls who will sue the school board-state-gov for attempted assault (touching your child), battery (piercing the flesh with a needle) and brandishing a deadly weapon (the needle itself).


I'm serious as hell.
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And again.
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Hi,

I am fairly new to this site - this is my first post/reply.

I am a mother of 5 - I had two, he had two and now we have one together - ages range from 4 years old to almost sixteen.

I found it interesting, with my first two kids (now ages 15 and 11) I vaccinated according to schedule - when my daughter was 4, she received a series of vaccines, including the flu shot. That same year, she was hospitalized for pneumonia, developed scarlet fever and generally had either a cold or flu like symptoms all the time.

My four year old was immunized at the hospital right after she was born - it is my understanding they will not release your child without those fist shots. Other than those, she has not received any vaccinations. She has never been sick (knock on wood). She is exposed to germs - plays with other kids, has 4 siblings..etc. We breed, train and show horses, she is exposed to more germs than most people.

I think a healthy lifestyle, including eating alot of homegrown fruits, vegetables and organic hormone free meat, plays a big part in it.

I wonder if the companies that make immunizations can force parents to immunize their children. I recently heard that if you take you child to a doctor and they are diagnosed with an illness (from a cold to cancer), a parent has to follow the hospital or doctors medical advice - for example, if a child is diagnosed with cancer and the doctor says chemotherapy is necessary, a parent does not have the option of pursuing other alternative treatments - ya know, the ones not FDA approved because they aren't money makers. The hospital can even have the child made a ward of the court and then do what they want and charge the parent or the insurance for any/all costs.
Does anyone have any info on ths?

Thanks.
 Quoting: kea007 301439


yes. check this story out: [link to angryscientist.wordpress.com]
and this thread: Thread: Mother Jailed for Curing Son's Melanoma!

a warm welcome to GLP
hf
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keep this on file, and research it!

[link to www.energywave.com]

homeopathy works 5a
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