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HUGE BRIGHT STAR IN THE EASTERN SKY!

 
Merlin
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This has been discussed in GLP ad nauseum over the last week or so. It's bloody VENUS!

"Venus appears dazzling in September's dawn sky. The planet pokes above the horizon about two hours before the Sun rises, and is conspicuous in the east during twilight. Shining at magnitude -4.6, it is brighter than any other point of light in the sky, and it gets higher above the horizon every day. Through a telescope, Venus' disk appears 40" across and shows a 25-percent- lit phase.

Venus, the second of the inferior planets, is almost the same size as the Earth, and is the nearest body in the sky apart from the Moon. Until recently we knew practically nothing about the surface of Venus, and there were constant references to "the Planet of Mystery". Indeed, until the radar measures of the 1960s even the rate of rotation of the planet was not known.

It was then found that Venus turns on its axis once every 243 Earth-days, making the planet's day longer than its year! Even more surprising is the fact that the rotation is retrograde. In other words, Venus spins in the opposite direction to the majority of the planets in the solar system.

Finding it - one hour before sunrise, looking east.

Link to source: [link to www.nightskyinfo.com]

And it looks huge and twinkles like a star when you first see it because, at a low angle, it's shining through masses of polluted atmosphere. It stops twinkling and gets smaller as it rises higher in the dawn sky.... then you can't see it any more anyway 'cos the sun comes up. QED
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I can't see it, the sun's too bright!!!! 5a
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This has been discussed in GLP ad nauseum over the last week or so. It's bloody VENUS!

"Venus appears dazzling in September's dawn sky. The planet pokes above the horizon about two hours before the Sun rises, and is conspicuous in the east during twilight. Shining at magnitude -4.6, it is brighter than any other point of light in the sky, and it gets higher above the horizon every day. Through a telescope, Venus' disk appears 40" across and shows a 25-percent- lit phase.

Venus, the second of the inferior planets, is almost the same size as the Earth, and is the nearest body in the sky apart from the Moon. Until recently we knew practically nothing about the surface of Venus, and there were constant references to "the Planet of Mystery". Indeed, until the radar measures of the 1960s even the rate of rotation of the planet was not known.

It was then found that Venus turns on its axis once every 243 Earth-days, making the planet's day longer than its year! Even more surprising is the fact that the rotation is retrograde. In other words, Venus spins in the opposite direction to the majority of the planets in the solar system.

Finding it - one hour before sunrise, looking east.

Link to source: [link to www.nightskyinfo.com]

And it looks huge and twinkles like a star when you first see it because, at a low angle, it's shining through masses of polluted atmosphere. It stops twinkling and gets smaller as it rises higher in the dawn sky.... then you can't see it any more anyway 'cos the sun comes up. QED
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yeah yeah we heard it all before

answer me this...
why is there so many people that have never seen this before?
I mean if its been this bright before over the years why wouldnt the people remember this?
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This has been discussed in GLP ad nauseum over the last week or so. It's bloody VENUS!

"Venus appears dazzling in September's dawn sky. The planet pokes above the horizon about two hours before the Sun rises, and is conspicuous in the east during twilight. Shining at magnitude -4.6, it is brighter than any other point of light in the sky, and it gets higher above the horizon every day. Through a telescope, Venus' disk appears 40" across and shows a 25-percent- lit phase.

Venus, the second of the inferior planets, is almost the same size as the Earth, and is the nearest body in the sky apart from the Moon. Until recently we knew practically nothing about the surface of Venus, and there were constant references to "the Planet of Mystery". Indeed, until the radar measures of the 1960s even the rate of rotation of the planet was not known.

It was then found that Venus turns on its axis once every 243 Earth-days, making the planet's day longer than its year! Even more surprising is the fact that the rotation is retrograde. In other words, Venus spins in the opposite direction to the majority of the planets in the solar system.

Finding it - one hour before sunrise, looking east.

Link to source: [link to www.nightskyinfo.com]

And it looks huge and twinkles like a star when you first see it because, at a low angle, it's shining through masses of polluted atmosphere. It stops twinkling and gets smaller as it rises higher in the dawn sky.... then you can't see it any more anyway 'cos the sun comes up. QED

yeah yeah we heard it all before

answer me this...
why is there so many people that have never seen this before?
I mean if its been this bright before over the years why wouldnt the people remember this?
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Yea hearing it from the older generations ...they are the ones who would know. Something like that would be burned into your mind and you wouldnt forget it over any amount of years. One of those "something to tell my grandchildren about" events.

The old laymen science was always the best. Good old visible observing and remembering.
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Space Weather News for Sept. 22, 2007
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MAXIMUM VENUS: In a celestial coincidence of eye-catching proportions, Venus (the "morning star") reaches maximum brightness on Sept. 23rd, the autumnal equinox. In short, northern fall is beginning with a bright light in the dawn sky. Venus is actually bright enough to see in broad daylight, but easier to find just before sunrise. Wake up early any morning in the week ahead and look east for the brilliant light of Venus.

Bonus: Like the Moon, Venus has phases, and at the moment the planet has assumed the form of a slender crescent. If you have a backyard telescope, take a look!

AURORA SEASON BEGINS: For reasons not fully understood, the weeks around the autumnal equinox produce, on average, more geomagnetic storms than any other time of year. Even the mildest solar wind stream brushing against Earth can ignite auroras. Earth is inside a high-speed solar wind stream this weekend and another is due on Sept. 27th or 28th. High latitude sky watchers should be alert for Northern Lights. (Tip: Local midnight is often the best time to watch.)

Visit [link to spaceweather.com] for sky maps, photos and more.

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answer me this...
why is there so many people that have never seen this before?
I mean if its been this bright before over the years why wouldnt the people remember this?
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I'll take this one, the reason people don't seem to recall Venus shining so brightly before, is because they are (due to this forum) having their attention called to these sort of things in a way they have not experienced before ie: paying more attention to the apearance of bright stars, having heard about planet x for intance. The jury is still out on X but one thing is certain ......Nancy's version is complete bullshit. Incoming planets would not suddenly stall and hang around in a phsuedo orbit, but would come and leave just as comets do (becase technicaly it would be a huge comet) although I concede that earthchanges are ocurring. I digress. In cunclusion it is just Venus, nothing to see here move along......
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early christians and many references are made to september being the birthday of jesus. the shepherds watched a bright star in the easstern sky! flocks are in the open from spring till autum.
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Late Sept.- Early Oct. Varies according to year.
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Eastern sky 0500 am same huge bright star in the sky from VT usa! This thing is extremley bright and does seem to pulsate. White in color! BIG BOLD DOT.

I doesn't appear to be moving. This thing is the biggest brightest thing in the sky that I have ever seen at night besides the moon!

What the heck is it?

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I googled it and found this forum interesting no? 9/23/07

"THE BIG STAR?"
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I googled it and found this forum interesting no? 9/23/07

"THE BIG STAR?"
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Wait till this hits the Main Stream News ...LOL ....do you have any idea whats going to happen then ????

See this is the thing folks ...............................KNOWING ITS GOING TO HAPPEN IS ONE THING ....BUT GOING THROUGH IT IS QUITE ANOTHER : ) LOL WOOOO HOOOO!!!!!!
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here is the correct answer you all have been waiting for....


[link to www.dustbunny.com]
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When Venus is visible, it is one of the brightest objects in the night sky, being outshone only by our Moon. The planet is so bright that many times it is reported as an Unidentified Flying Object, or UFO. Many people also mistake it for an airplane landing light until they realize that it isn't moving.
If you have a telescope, you may be lucky enough to see what the early astronomer Galileo found out when he first started using his first telescope: Venus goes through "phases" much like our own Moon. (I can remember when I first saw Venus through a telescope and thought for a moment I was looking at the Moon.) Since Venus is closer to the Sun than we are here on Earth, our view of it, and the "phase" it is in, changes depending on the positions of Earth and Venus relative to the Sun.
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I just went out and looked (Ohio)and saw it in the East.

Several years ago, I saw something that looked about 20 times as big in the Eastern sky. I posted it and consenses opinion was that it was Venus. But it was much larger than what I just looked at.
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I dont know if I'm looking at the same thing, but I see a very bright pulsing light. I'm in the middle of the U.S. and I noticed it around 5:00 a.m. It's now 6:00 a.m. and I can see Venus, but this thing is about 20-30 degrees to the south of it. It's unusually bright for a star and seems to be more eratic with the pulsing. Kinda creeps me out... hiding
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still, it looks pretty nice
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zetas right again
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Yep...its time to heat up the ovens and slaughter your dogs again.
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it is NOT venus...venus is right where it has always been


if you looked for yourself you wouldn't appear so ignorant

debunk all you will...anyone with a brain KNOWS that this is something other than NORMAL

I have never seen such a star in all my years...NEVER

it is like a halogen light...so clear and bright, it outshines all the other stars, and is well worth your time to look.
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Venus dos not a position where it has 'always been'! Planets MOVE as their orbits progress.

EVERY time any planet is bright a host of cretins like you infest GLP saying it's 'not normal', which just proves that it is!
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As I posted on the other thread - it is NOT a planet (ie Venus or Saturn); since when do planets PULSATE?! A planet appears as a static light in the sky - no light fluctuations at all. A star "twinkles". This thing in the eastern morning sky PULSATES in such a way as nothing else in the sky. Explain that...
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I also saw the star pulsate it looked like it was pulsating blue and red.I have been observing it for awhile now.
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As I posted on the other thread - it is NOT a planet (ie Venus or Saturn); since when do planets PULSATE?! A planet appears as a static light in the sky - no light fluctuations at all. A star "twinkles". This thing in the eastern morning sky PULSATES in such a way as nothing else in the sky. Explain that...


I also saw the star pulsate it looked like it was pulsating blue and red.I have been observing it for awhile now.
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Atmospheric conditions cause that. Nothing odd.
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I dont know if I'm looking at the same thing, but I see a very bright pulsing light. I'm in the middle of the U.S. and I noticed it around 5:00 a.m. It's now 6:00 a.m. and I can see Venus, but this thing is about 20-30 degrees to the south of it. It's unusually bright for a star and seems to be more eratic with the pulsing. Kinda creeps me out... hiding
 Quoting: Spliffy 763602


Spliffy, dear, did you notice the date of the thread you trawled up?

You do realise that from year to year, the planets do not appear in the same place on the same date, only the stars?

Anyway, here's a screenshot from Stellarium for mid-USA at around that time:
[link to www.geocities.com]
showing you all the many candidates for your object. Had you known your skies a little better, you could have told us where it was in relation to the VERY WELL KNOWN constellation of Orion, and it's very well known stars, eg Rigel and Betelgeuse - then there's nearby Sirius, in Canis Major.

Now I'm guessing it isn't Mars (up higher) or Betelgeuse, as surely you would have noticed the red tinge of those two. And Sirius is by far the brightest star in that region of the sky, so I'm betting on Sirius. If it's not, tell us exactly where it is in relation to the stars and planets in that diagram..
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"brighted"

= FAIL
Take your dogma and shove it!

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As I posted on the other thread - it is NOT a planet (ie Venus or Saturn); since when do planets PULSATE?! A planet appears as a static light in the sky - no light fluctuations at all. A star "twinkles". This thing in the eastern morning sky PULSATES in such a way as nothing else in the sky. Explain that...


I also saw the star pulsate it looked like it was pulsating blue and red.I have been observing it for awhile now.
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Geez, another person who stares at the sky and doesn't know a single constellation? What's happened to society over the past decade?

ALL objects twinkle when near the horizon or in a hazy atmosphere. Stars, planets, distant street lights..

The brighter planets are a tiny bit wider than the single stream of photons that comes from all stars (they are so distant, they are truly point sources). So they twinkle less.

When up above about 30°, on a night with a 'reasonably' clear atmosphere the twinkling effect is almost invisible in a planet, but still obvious in a star.. Sirius is renowned for its sparkling appearance.
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this is star venus ship.
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Jupiter is super bright for months already - which is very unusual. I do not remember any planet shining that bright for such a long period of time.
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Jupiter is super bright for months already - which is very unusual. I do not remember any planet shining that bright for such a long period of time.
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OK, let's test you out, go back three months and tell us where/when you were observing it.



As for me, Jupiter appears the same at it always has, in a clear unpolluted sky, and I've been avidly stargazing for over thirty years. And no astronomy site or forum that I have seen has mentioned it.

But I DO meet a lot of people who have never taken notice of the skies before, and then show immense surprise when they see Jupiter or Venus at their brightest, or for that matter, even Sirius. City slickers are the worst, but some country folk are equally unobservant until they have a reason to look (eg visiting a conspiracy site..).

If you've never seena nythign like it, or you don't remember, then that tells us...

..that you are trolling, you have never looked, you do indeed simply not remember, you have some macular degeneration, or a combination of all those.
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As I posted on the other thread - it is NOT a planet (ie Venus or Saturn); since when do planets PULSATE?! A planet appears as a static light in the sky - no light fluctuations at all. A star "twinkles". This thing in the eastern morning sky PULSATES in such a way as nothing else in the sky. Explain that...
It's not a planet or star. I look at them through my telescope. As of September 2 there are 7 different objects in the sky. One very bright object in the West that comes out around 8 PM and one in the East that appears around 9 PM. There are 5 others that move from east to north that hoover around the horizon line.
The all pulsate. The five around the horizon get bright and then disappear. There are two that are brilliant yellow, two that are red and one that changes colors from red to white.
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As I posted on the other thread - it is NOT a planet (ie Venus or Saturn); since when do planets PULSATE?! A planet appears as a static light in the sky - no light fluctuations at all. A star "twinkles". This thing in the eastern morning sky PULSATES in such a way as nothing else in the sky. Explain that...
It's not a planet or star. I look at them through my telescope. As of September 2 there are 7 different objects in the sky. One very bright object in the West that comes out around 8 PM and one in the East that appears around 9 PM. There are 5 others that move from east to north that hoover around the horizon line.
The all pulsate. The five around the horizon get bright and then disappear. There are two that are brilliant yellow, two that are red and one that changes colors from red to white.
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I've been watching the LARGE VERY BRIGHT object in the western sky since the end of May, and, yes, sometimes it changes colors - mostly red/white/blue - but not "twinkling" really, slower than that.

I'm 68 years old, have been a sky-watcher for a long time, never seen anything like it other than Halley's Comet in the 70's, which was about the same brightness.

It does NOT show up on Stellarium.
At this date, September 3, Venus (and Mars) sinks below the horizon just after 8 p.m., but this thing is still there, more to the north.
NO, IT'S NOT ANTARES.

It seems to just disappear later, not sinking below the horizon 'cuz it stays in the same spot, then gone. Maybe I don't watch it long enough. But stars and planets move, and pretty fast too; you with telescopes know this.


Haven't a clue...

Has anyone in more northerly latitudes seen it? I'm in S. Arizona, my Seattle friend says he doesn't see anything. (But when is the sky clear in Seattle?)

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It's a hot pixel leftover from the last refresh.