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ELECTRIC VEHICLE SURGE TECHNOLOGY NO BATTERIES NO GAS

 
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ELECTRIC VEHICLE SURGE TECHNOLOGY NO BATTERIES NO GAS
Saw this on youtube and thought it was really cool, check it out.
[link to www.youtube.com]
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This was 1994, what has happen to it. Whatever is hidden will come to light. Where is Troy Reed of Tulsa, Oklahoma today and what happen with this technology.
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09/22/2007 04:21 PM
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Pretty weird. I don't understand the source of the power driving the electric motor. I wish the inventor explained this on camera.
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09/22/2007 04:28 PM
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It appears to be a perpetual-motion type motor driven by magnetism. What's odd about it is that his demonstration car appears to run on a single 12v battery.

[link to www.kbmorgan.com]

The 1989 prototype uses a horizontal shaft with several magnets on it. Above the shaft are four vertical spring-loaded pistons with a magnet on the end closest to the shaft. Turning the hand crank spins the horizontal shaft and the magnetic spring-loaded pistons move up and down to trigger the motion of the shaft and the magnetic force field. Once the shaft is put into motion, it continues to spin until a brake is applied.

Instead of moveable pistons, the latest model of the motor uses and electronic system and stationary magnets to start and control the motion of the shaft. Consequently, the only moving part in the motor is the horizontal shaft. In the current model, the shaft turns in bearings, but Reed said the mass-produced model will not have the bearings. Instead, the shaft will be magnetically suspended inside the motor casing. Suspending the shaft means there will be nothing to wear out, or make noise, Reed said.
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Where do we stand today, I believe that what has been hidden is coming to light and would like to know more about this.
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09/22/2007 05:49 PM
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so after the USA saw Reed's invention in 1994, they immediately began planning 9/11. Right? Those bastards. Got to always keep us down and afraid or we will rise up and seize our freedom.
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09/22/2007 05:58 PM

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Pretty weird. I don't understand the source of the power driving the electric motor. I wish the inventor explained this on camera.
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the so many folks have put there trust in the the plate wating for.?
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09/22/2007 06:10 PM
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the source of the power driving the motor is the 150V that he supplies to it after spinning it a few to get it going.

It's a very low friction high efficiency motor capable of storing potential (150V by the looks of it)

Once charged it can continue to discharge with excellent efficiency.

Probably this technology has advanced the efficiency of electric car motors. No magic, and nothing beyond science here tho.

There will be friction on the road from the wheels, and it will need to be charged often.

So, the motor is pre charged, and then runs down slowly and efficiently as the construction of the car will allow.
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09/22/2007 06:33 PM
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if china finds out about this there will millions of these mass produced in a matter of months...
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Pretty weird. I don't understand the source of the power driving the electric motor. I wish the inventor explained this on camera.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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interesting, thanks for link
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Ac,you of all peaple could find this man named /fredrickgrambell 3ed.jr.
back in 1983,at the 'newage center'?/oldriver rd.Eugine or. He hung on celling this 40"1/2in.copper tubing peramid with a curze crystal inside,went to the other side of the room to a low ampage ruby red lazer beem aimd at the crystal and truned it on?i got to wait in line with alot of others and fill,smell-hear heat of 6-sparks on each hand. ibe not to sweft with use of computers now,purhaps you and others are._back then ilived in a starbus parked in back. hf
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Peswiki.com
"In around 1994, Troy Reed claimed to have a fueless, pollution-free motor with around 7 kilowatts of output, powerful enough to run a house or a car. The technology received a flurry of high-level interest, including major media. Actor and co-inventor, Dennis Weaver organized a cross-country demonstration.

The technology was apparently hampered when Troy's wife and VP of the company divorced and moved to Costa Rica. Reed admitted on tape in 1999 that he had not achieved self-sustainability.

As of 2006, the son, Mark, is doing other things, but would eventually like to resurrect the "Mach II" version of the magnet motor, for which he has the full blueprints that he drew. "
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Hell yeah! That's it! Like he said at the end this is our future.
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Let The Hundredth Monkey step up amongt us at this that we all seek-book,Ken Keyes,jr. from the living learningcenter old town coosbay or.Let There Be Light thu understanding peace. hf
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[link to www.peswiki.com]

More info, apparently it was not all it seems. It had many
technical hurdles to pass before it would have been usefull.
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Ac,you of all peaple could find this man named /fredrickgrambell 3ed.jr.
back in 1983,at the 'newage center'?/oldriver rd.Eugine or. He hung on celling this 40"1/2in.copper tubing peramid with a curze crystal inside,went to the other side of the room to a low ampage ruby red lazer beem aimd at the crystal and truned it on?i got to wait in line with alot of others and fill,smell-hear heat of 6-sparks on each hand. ibe not to sweft with use of computers now,purhaps you and others are._back then ilived in a starbus parked in back. hf
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What the fuck did you just say?
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the source of the power driving the motor is the 150V that he supplies to it after spinning it a few to get it going.

It's a very low friction high efficiency motor capable of storing potential (150V by the looks of it)

Once charged it can continue to discharge with excellent efficiency.

Probably this technology has advanced the efficiency of electric car motors. No magic, and nothing beyond science here tho.

There will be friction on the road from the wheels, and it will need to be charged often.

So, the motor is pre charged, and then runs down slowly and efficiently as the construction of the car will allow.
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I thought that is why he had the battery connected, to recharge the system??

The dude who invented this hasn't been around for ages, maybe he felt super depressed???
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09/22/2007 11:23 PM
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His name is Fredrick Gram Bell the 3ed. He showed to many back then at place called 'the new age center'in old town Eugine Or.( [link to wanttoknow.info]
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To 299505

That device is not "Anti-Gravity". It was done on MythBusters actually. Basically it came down to something to the effect that the device was ionizing the air creating wind which gave it lift.

Still really neat though.
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To 299505

That device is not "Anti-Gravity". It was done on MythBusters actually. Basically it came down to something to the effect that the device was ionizing the air creating wind which gave it lift.

Still really neat though.
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well i have not seen mythbusters but what makes you so sure theyre not lying


the device looks very antigravity to me
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BUMP!
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the device is anti gravity

it is tested by nasa in vacuum.........and is going to be used for thrust in space..........


also the device gives thrust in oil i mean when the capacitors are surrounded by nothing but oil it still gives thrust so its anti gravity not wind thrust

even do it also gives off a bit of wind .........but almost nothing they did smoke tests to show how much wind comes off

and not enough wind comes off to provide any real thrust
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bump
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[link to www.econvergence.net]

COOL like Gilligan's Island!
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To 299505

That device is not "Anti-Gravity". It was done on MythBusters actually. Basically it came down to something to the effect that the device was ionizing the air creating wind which gave it lift.

Still really neat though.


well i have not seen mythbusters but what makes you so sure theyre not lying


the device looks very antigravity to me
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take your antigravity device & go back thru your stargate and leave us alone
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You asked how it works, let me tell you.

When I was in college, one of the things that we learned about was Electro Magnetic Forces. I dreamed up one of these “magnetic motors” myself, and built a prototype not unlike the version that GM has built and posted a video about on You tube.

The key is to overcome the resistance by a power of ten, a very common theme in electronics.
I began by buying rare earth cobalt magnets, as they have a push-pull magnetic force of up to two hundred pounds.
In my original design I populated a wheel with these magnets at a 10-degree incline, to push the wheel around, when a magnet of the same polarity was to come against the polarity of the magnets on the wheel.

I immediately found the wheel would spin, without any manual assistance. However, the next step was to place the outer ring of magnets on a cam movement so that a certain percentage of the outer ring would be in position, pushing away the inner ring on the wheel. Like a cam that moves valves into and out of position on any motor, this cam would move the outer ring and power the wheel to greater speeds.

I originally connected the wheels sprocket to the sprocket of the generator with a chain drive, but I see that the GM version is using a rubber-timing belt, and this may indeed be a superior way to connect the two.
That in a nutshell is how a perpetual magnetic dynamo, or “magnetic motor” will operate.

It’s funny, but I built my prototype in 1990, and I have talked to people about it since the 80’s but no one believed that it would work and invest in this machine, but now that gas has gone so high, seems like everyone wants one, but some how they don’t seem to be going on the market.
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looks to me like a government cover up people with big money paying big government officials to put the stops to it


check out that youtube video which is over 10 years old now
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Is this the same serge technology they used in Iraq?
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So.....tell me the truth. How Many of you guys ACTUALLY-Do-Not see the WIRES on this DAMN thing (video) come on now. LOL

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