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OMG - more proof we are living in a dictatorship society - Pull 'em Up: U.S. Cities Crack Down on Baggy Pants

 
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Pull 'em Up: U.S. Cities Crack Down on Baggy Pants
By MATTHEW VERRINDER, AP ONLINE





Proposals to ban saggy pants are starting to ride up in U.S. cities. (AP Images)

It's a fashion that started in prison, and now the saggy pants craze has come full circle - low-slung street strutting in some cities may soon mean run-ins with the law, including a stint in jail.

Proposals to ban saggy pants are starting to ride up in several places. At the extreme end, wearing pants low enough to show boxers or bare buttocks in one small Louisiana town means six months in jail and a $500 fine. A crackdown also is being pushed in Atlanta. And in Trenton, getting caught with your pants down may soon result in not only a fine, but a city worker assessing where your life is headed.

"Are they employed? Do they have a high school diploma? It's a wonderful way to redirect at that point," said Trenton Councilwoman Annette Lartigue, who is drafting a law to outlaw saggy pants. "The message is clear: We don't want to see your backside."

The bare-your-britches fashion is believed to have started in prisons, where inmates aren't given belts with their baggy uniform pants to prevent hangings and beatings. By the late 80s, the trend had made it to gangster rap videos, then went on to skateboarders in the suburbs and high school hallways.

"For young people, it's a form of rebellion and identity," said Adrian Harris, 43, a founding member of the Bronx's legendary rap group Cold Crush Brothers. "The young people think it's fashionable. They don't think it's negative."

But for those who want to stop them see it as an indecent, sloppy trend that is a bad influence on children.

"It has the potential to catch on with elementary school kids, and we want to stop it before it gets there," said C.T. Martin, an Atlanta councilman. "Teachers have raised questions about what a distraction it is."

In Atlanta, a law has been introduced to ban sagging and punishment could include small fines or community work - but no jail time, Martin said.

The penalty is stiffer in Delcambre, La., where in June the town council passed an ordinance that carries a fine of up to $500 or six months in jail for exposing underwear in public. Several other municipalities and parish governments in Louisiana have enacted similar laws in recent months.

At Trenton hip-hop clothing store Razor Sharp Clothing Shop 4 Ballers, shopper Mark Wise, 30, said his jeans sag for practical reasons.

"The reason I don't wear tight pants is because it's easier to get money out of my pocket this way," Wise said. "It's just more comfortable."

Shop owner Mack Murray said Trenton's proposed ordinance unfairly targets blacks.

"Are they going to go after construction workers and plumbers, because their pants sag, too?" Murray asked. "They're stereotyping us."

The American Civil Liberties Union agrees.

"In Atlanta, we see this as racial profiling," said Benetta Standly, statewide organizer for the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. "It's going to target African-American male youths. There's a fear with people associating the way you dress with crimes being committed."

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The baggy pants with underdrawers showing in prison means...
I am available tonight.

Kids walking around like that probably have no idea what it means. It is actually a means of advertising prostitution.
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It's gross seeing some kids fricken underwear hanging out of his pants.
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Re: OMG - more proof we are living in a dictatorship society - Pull 'em Up: U.S. Cities Crack Down on Baggy Pants
But you see we are allowing this to happen, becoming a police state and we are practically welcoming it with open arms because they find a small outrage like this, and make it a crime to wear baggy pants, and we go "yahhh I hate it when they do that, so lets make it a crime!" Punishable offense. By doing this, this passive complacency to the tiny details of our rights being stripped of us, we virtually are handing them the power to own our lives on a silver platter, and you might as well thank them for turning us into a police state.
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Finally! A crackdown on the happy happ joy joy. The stranglehold on those brats just got a little tighter!
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Don't bitch when you wake up and realize you have no more freedom.
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Of all the things they can be cracking down on...
Well it seems so real I can see it
And it seems so real I can feel it
And it seems so real I can taste it
And it seems so real I can hear it
So why can't I touch it?
So why can't I touch it?


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To be fair.. those saggy pants do.. look like the wearer has taken a dump doesn't it..?!
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Re: OMG - more proof we are living in a dictatorship society - Pull 'em Up: U.S. Cities Crack Down on Baggy Pants
But is it really a crime???? Worthy of punishment, jail and fines?


And we barely bat an eye while they strip away our rights of freedom of expression, while harming no one, no crime has been committed so they are making up this stupid sh*t to control us more and more?
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"Yessir, I have a criminal record."

"Oh? And what crime were you convicted for?"

"Baggy drawers."
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Well ..I have to admit......it is fucking annoying to see pants down to the ankles.
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But is it a crime??
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norespect

Show me a person walking around with his pants down around his knees and I'll show you a FUCKING IDIOT.

Every time I see one I'm forced to make a choise;

A.) Look the other way.

B.) Laugh right in his goofy stupid face.


MommyFuckinChrist, either >get dressed< or go naked!
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noooo, you're missing the point. This doesn't have anything to do with dictatorship, it has to do with decency.

I don't care to seee some kid trying to wear his daddy's pants that don't fit him. He's not a man. Men wear clothes that fit them.

He's not cool. Cool is something everbody wants to seee and I don't know many "men" at all that wants to see andother mans draws.

Grow up boys. Wear clothes that fit. Don't belittle your women, build them up. Don't disrespect everything, learn to give respect to elders, women, and generally, everyone that has to put up with your dumb shenanaghans.
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But is it really a crime???? Worthy of punishment, jail and fines?



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Its a crime against nature, common sense, and decency.
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My point was, that they are rapidly crunching down on every aspect of our private lives, down to how we dress.

I see your point, and yes there is also a matter of decency.

But how we dress is not, and should not become, a crime.

Our freedoms are eroding away and we are welcoming that with open arms and closed eyes.
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Don't bitch when you wake up and realize you have no more freedom.
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If freedom means a bunch of punks walking around in their underwear - you can friggen keep it.
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Shewolfe:

I understand but if we don't address it all we won't address any of it. Why exclude the hanging baggies? I don't want my rights invaded at airports but if you're gonna do that why not hike the hanging baggies.

They simply don't have any business checking my id, a 54 yr old black male flying from New Orleans to Chicago. I'm not a ME religious fanatic that will kill others to further my belief.
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See, this is incredibly important.

Let the parents take care of it. Make it a taboo society-wise, sure. But don't let the government this far into our private lives.

Where we can be imprisoned based on an article of clothing we wear.

That's too much. Limited government is a myth!
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My point was, that they are rapidly crunching down on every aspect of our private lives, down to how we dress.

I see your point, and yes there is also a matter of decency.

But how we dress is not, and should not become, a crime.

Our freedoms are eroding away and we are welcoming that with open arms and closed eyes.
 Quoting: Shewolfe


Like we really, really need the fredom to show our underware in public while we are not even given the freedom to chose an unapproved medicine?
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So interestingly....the USA becomes a little bit more....like IRAN.
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Exactly.

This is about freedom.
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Exactly.

This is about freedom.
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No, its not. Its about really stupid habits in public.
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1984
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Exactly.

This is about freedom.


No, its not. Its about really stupid habits in public.
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A stupid habit according to whom? The moral standards board? That's what they have in IRAN. They establish the permissible dress code. Freedom includes hearing and seeing some things you may not personally agree with. It's such a shame that so many Americans have forgotten what freedom really is, and argue for change similar to theocratic dictatorships like IRAN.

You belong in IRAN, or North Korea, or Saudi Arabia. It's a shame people like yourself have US citizenship.
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plumbers show more butt crack than anyone else. 5a
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The baggy pants with underdrawers showing in prison means...
I am available tonight.

Kids walking around like that probably have no idea what it means. It is actually a means of advertising prostitution.
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i know and i think if they new that they would likely yank them up to their armpits.

next, get rid of backwards or crooked baseball caps. i am a youngish :-) guy (early 30s) and everytime I see this i want to first tell them how ridiculous they look and then smack it off their heads.
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"Crack Down on Baggy Pants"

Pretty self explanatory. Pull them up, nobody wants to see your crack.
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Exactly.

This is about freedom.
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No, its not. Its about really stupid habits in public.
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A stupid habit according to whom? The moral standards board? That's what they have in IRAN. They establish the permissible dress code. Freedom includes hearing and seeing some things you may not personally agree with. It's such a shame that so many Americans have forgotten what freedom really is, and argue for change similar to theocratic dictatorships like IRAN.

You belong in IRAN, or North Korea, or Saudi Arabia. It's a shame people like yourself have US citizenship.
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>....according to whom? The moral standards board?<

So, according to you moral standards are a bad thing?


I condone wearing ones pants correctly so I belong in Iran with the rest of the terrorists?

Let me make this simple for you:
.................................cupofjoe
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Pull up your damm pants I don't want to see your ass unless I ask and pay for it.

And besides, you can run from the cops much faster with your pants outta your crotch.

I don't know if it is worthy of arrest or fine, but I tell you this I see a kid coming towards me on the street with his crotch around his ankles and I think right off, he's a perfect victim, I can nail his ass and get his gun by just encouraging his pants to fall down a little more!!!
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plumbers show more butt crack than anyone else. 5a
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Correct. Throught history they have been stealth freedon fighters.

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