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Missing Hikers..Attacked by Alien..Real case......

 
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You needing to go back to school and learning how to spell.

lol solid evidence

either get the proof i ask for


LIVE VIDEO CONFESSION FROM ACTORS

or find something more beno for ya
insulting my spelling is counter productive
irrelevent
nasty
misleading and incredibly childish
if you cant help me in what i request
dont bother responding to me
i can see what your doing
along with many i hope
stop throwing it off

supply the !!!!!!new request!!!!!!!
or push off
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01/28/2010 08:28 PM
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no this is not just a video



putin stfu putin

DUDE JUST STFU !

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Case Tape 347

World Premiere
USA
2005 | 2 min
English language

screening times
July 22nd, 2005
5:15 pm
Hall Theatre
tickets available through...
admission.com Admission Ticket Network
www.admission.com
description

02-24-05: Abandoned car at Red Rock Park reveals possible missing hikers. A search of the park begins today. 2-26-05: a camcorder is found in State Park. The Red Rock Hikers, Scott Pendleton and Jennifer Fox, are still missing. If you have any information that might assist with this investigation, please contact the Tacoma Sheriff's Office at 1-323-906-2753. This is the international premiere of this clever mockumentary, when Blair Witch meets reality TV.
credits

Director: Kyle Rankin & Efram Potelle
Screenplay: Kyle Rankin, Efram Potelle
Cast: Kyle Rankin, Karen Zumsteg
Producers: Efram Potelle & Kyle Rankin
Distributor: Newborn Pictures
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 866694



LOOK LIL ASIAN MAN...
STFU !
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Obvious CGI is obvious. If anyone actually thought this was real....wow...
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01/28/2010 08:34 PM
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oh and i dont care how many people you get to provide irrelevent comment about how they laugh and squirm in the nerd seat
my apologies do anyone who may be a legitamate follower expressing personal feeling of emotional extacy when they view this lol
somethings have still need for explanation
hummmm im doubtful this is real myself
but the question im seeking is about the analysis of the film itself it is not easily discredited by conventional means
what part of that dont you get
were asking how this was done
why cant somebody give me answers to my questions
yours have been answered
why are you still interested in something that should be past interest to you i question ???????
why do you side step continually my request
im not asking if its real im asking how this is possible
this type of film fx is high grade and many wish to understand its design
it is by industry standard questionable
we are asking for
type of programmes used in its creation etc if truly that is what it is

yeh and that

LIVE PUBLIC VIDEO CONFESSION

would be helpful
something that you could do constructively to relieve your anxiety
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01/28/2010 08:37 PM
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and the continual racist comments only conclude the obvious nature of your ugly persona
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01/28/2010 08:39 PM
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what im saying now is maybe you need to STFU and let this thread be what it is meant to be for
discussion and varied opinion not just yours
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01/28/2010 08:41 PM
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personally im not intersted in you or yours so just take a deep breathe and chill out amigo
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01/28/2010 08:52 PM
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Ok, I CAN'T believe I'm saying this but, I can't disprove the authenticity of this video. There IS in fact a "Tacoma County" so for those who say there aren't are in correct ( [link to www.newbornpix.com] OR ( [link to www.google.com]

Did you miss this link?

[link to www.newbornpix.com]
 Quoting: Chaz


No, there is no "Tacoma County".

Did you actually do the research like I did and go to an official US-government site for your reference? No, you just did a Google search. Not good enough.

Here, this is a database of ALL the counties in the United States of America; it links to the US Census Bureau and has every county in the USA listed. You will not find a "Tacoma County" because it doesn't exist.

[link to censtats.census.gov]

And that is just one piece of evidence that proves that the video is FAKE.

Freaking idiots. No wonder mankind is doomed, with idiots running around all over the damn place.
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01/28/2010 09:58 PM
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this seems like some automated responce programme


the message aint getting thru

its not regeristing what the post has migrated to
which is explanation of how this was created
you continue to assume the we cannot read by the constant barrage of links to the same info
move over and let the post develop
other questions are being addressed
your living in the past
maybe you believe this is real because you just cant let it go can you hummmmmmmm
only an idiot would believe this is like saying you know all and everything in this universal arena
we dont know everything nerd
you are not the end be all of knowledge so give us all a break and stay out
you fail to see the obviious expression of interest in other people comments
so i ask myself ummm are you a friggin idiot
many anomalies are unresolved globally
alien visitation well human history is filled with it
and their is evidence if youve truly done any real serious attempt to find such
many believe because they have witnessed things personally themselves
i dont dont this is possible at all
anything is
i will say im sceptical yes but others and myself are asking different questions that you obviously seem to be
oblivious to
side stepping it by pasting this stupidlink every few comments
is at best fn annoying
anything is possible in a universe we know so little of
were it an alien from elsewhere
then logic must agree it is not an asteroid
but some type of vehicle and would therefore by logic impact not as one might expect
tho i cant say even i would know how asteroids impact
have you witnessed many?
now get your head out of this futile abusive slangging ritual and help with what i ask for or
dont bother responding here
everyone is entitled to their own opinion its a public forum
if you can believe that
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01/28/2010 10:07 PM
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and no we dont assume this as real
but in saying that we cannot discredit it as easily as you
serious investigation and analysis should have left no room for doubt
and i wouldnt be here wasting my fn time with you if this was done
but i quess the truth will present itself in time
its funny how you can impersonate a police officer
create a bogus sherriffs department
lead people on for years and not be charged arrested publically reported by any major media or minor for that matter no newspaper articles nothing
even as a hoax things still make the news
and believe me this should have
no just nothing

still more questions unanswered
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01/28/2010 11:44 PM
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the way i see it is everybodies assuming this video to come from tacoma but the actors dont actually mention this only stating they are in red rock state park
now my angle is that this infomation about tacoma has been added after the event which in itself cannot be subjected as fact unless this person/editor also comes forth
i mean anything could have anything added later to throw us off the trail
even some clever links to a bogus movie firm connection
oh not saying the company is fake but it is very easily to make things appear as you wish
in this day and age
and if this is in fact real and there is some cover up of facts then
this would be a good way to hide the truth
by asociating this to a legitamite film company
i mean are we even certain that this is where it took place ? no that cannot be definativly ascertained
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01/29/2010 01:01 AM
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LIKE YOU KNOW THIS WHOLE FILM IS BEING DISCREDITED BY THE ADDED FOOTAGE AT THE BEGINNING AND END
WHAT ABOUT THE ACTUAL FOOTAGE ITSELF IT DOESNT ADD UP
STILL SEARCHING
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01/29/2010 06:24 AM
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im not asking if its real im asking how this is possible
this type of film fx is high grade and many wish to understand its design
it is by industry standard questionable
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How is it possible?
Have you been to a movie theater in the last 20 years?
Once again, this was made by guys who were already working in Hollywood at the time.
Efram Potelle has subsequently won awards for special effects work.

What is your basis for saying this by "industry standard questionable"?

You have been given more than enough information to pursue your research on the film. Why don't you try contacting Potelle or Rankin if you want to know what software was used?
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Ok, I CAN'T believe I'm saying this but, I can't disprove the authenticity of this video. There IS in fact a "Tacoma County" so for those who say there aren't are in correct ( [link to www.newbornpix.com] OR ( [link to www.google.com]

Did you miss this link?

[link to www.newbornpix.com]


No, there is no "Tacoma County".

Did you actually do the research like I did and go to an official US-government site for your reference? No, you just did a Google search. Not good enough.

Here, this is a database of ALL the counties in the United States of America; it links to the US Census Bureau and has every county in the USA listed. You will not find a "Tacoma County" because it doesn't exist.

[link to censtats.census.gov]

And that is just one piece of evidence that proves that the video is FAKE.

Freaking idiots. No wonder mankind is doomed, with idiots running around all over the damn place.
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happy content member of the human race not
tacoma does exist and so does red rock state park
true they are not in the same place however it was interesting to see many things in tacoma with the name red rock associated on google earth
coincidence ?
now if we are to study the footage alone
it gives us only one reference

red rock state park

why are so many people asuming without question without investigation into extra details obviously added after the event
this is not a professional appraoch to any real serious attempt/investigation period
so something to consider

but hey im only looking at the facts not the disinformation
and if iam an idiot for contributing my views
then so be it
dont create forums for open discussion or partake of
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01/29/2010 06:35 AM
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I was doing a little searching and I found that Tacoma County where this was supposed to take place is in Washington State. It was supposed to be in Red Rock National Park, and when I looked it up that is in Arizona. There is no Red Rock National Park in Tecoma County! also if you go to the "police website" (follow the link) [link to www.newbornpix.com]
you'll find on the page that "Lowell Scientists confirm the "meteorite" poses no public heath threat." I found that Lowell Observatory is in Arizona not Tacoma County Washington. This seems a little strange to me.
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interesting indeed
coincidence?
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Ok, I CAN'T believe I'm saying this but, I can't disprove the authenticity of this video. There IS in fact a "Tacoma County" so for those who say there aren't are in correct ( [link to www.newbornpix.com] OR ( [link to www.google.com]

(Please at the very least, read the last paragraph)!

I work in film (nothing real major but I've done my share), but I have worked with some of the biggest production companies creating SPX, CGI, Photoshop etc... The recorder used in this video makes it extremely hard to create a truly believable photoshop/CGI opportunity. The sound created by the impact is perfect and going through over 100 still images, there's no sign of altering.

HOWEVER - What doesn't add up is when the creature "attacks". It does appear to jump out from behind the rock and not from the crack. Although that's extremely hard to truly tell for sure.

I'm not saying I believe this is a real video, but I am saying that if it's a hoax that it's truly one of the best ever made. There's no changes in the quality of the video, no 'hiccups' of any kind and if you take the time to break it down in to still images, it's truly amazing.

As I'm writing this I just received a call back from a friend who works for Sony, who does miracles with CGI and he was dumbfounded as well. This is either THE best hoax EVER created or it's the real deal.

I'm only about 90 minutes away from Tacoma and will do some further research. Has anyone tried calling the number at the end of the video or searched for the individuals online at all?

I JUST setup an email address for anyone willing to dig further in to this with me. If it's real, then WOW. If it's a hoax then WOW (still). I have created "hoax" UFO & alien videos (actually almost got in BIG trouble for one such video. It actually made the news - oops lol). It's VERY hard to believe something like this would happen, but if you know A LOT about CGI, photoshop AND creating fake videos with a primitive camera as they were using, you'd know that this is an extremely amazing hoax (if it's a hoax).

The email I set up is casetape347@yahoo.com - PLEASE email me with ANY additional still photos you may have taken from the video and/or ANY other info/research you've conducted. This is EXTREMELY important to me, even if it's a hoax and I GREATLY appreciate the help!

You make a lot of claims, my dear. Please establish your credentials before anyone wastes their time responding to you.
 Quoting: XPMarksthe

why would you ask someone to give their credentials when you mock everyone who believes this to be real
all the while riding your pony screaming ive got solid proof this is fake?

i do not trust you
coincidence?
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[link to www.theatrejunkies.com]

Karen Zumsteg/Executive Production Manager
karen@theatrejunkies.com

"Acting is a way of breathing life into great stories and sharing them with others. Passion and generosity live here. There's no place I'd rather be." -Karen Zumsteg

A Delaware native, Karen began her career in this City of Angels building her technique at the Larry Moss Studio with Michelle Danner and Larry Moss. Contributing to this strong foundation was voice study with Patsy Rodenburg, Brian Drillinger, and Kevin Quinn, and movement with Jean-Louis Rodrigue and Kristof Konrad.Colleagues from these classes became collaborators for a gaggle of short films, one being THE BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG IT, a 48 Hour Film Project where Karen first got to know fellow Junkies Chris Stone and TJ Thyne. Additional film standouts include two features - POPE DREAMS with Julie Hagerty and Stephen Tobolowsky and THE NEXT RACE co-starring Bailey Chase - and short films like CASE TAPE 347 with Project Greenlight directors Kyle Rankin and Efram Potelle and BLIND LUCK opposite Michael Sorvino.
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i also find it odd that so many people accept so readily
a photo that could be pasted from anywhere anytime onto anything anywhere anytime
without question as real
and than on the other hand say oh that video is fake
when the film cannot be professionaly discredited by fx professionals
really every other testimony of the film is just the average mans personal opinion
people whom have no industry background or trade

all except MR E
whom seems to be the most knowledgable person here on cg and fx video manipulation
his statement alone should make people reconsider
am i the only person who considers this

coincidental?
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I'd like to point out that there is also ZERO exif data. If there was any photoshop work done there would be some sort of exif data traceable. Yes, I know exif data is primarily for photography but there's also zero -

Frame counts
Bit rates
Audio codec
Video codec

Care to explain that????
 Quoting: MR. E 859037

this is a legitamate line of questioning that needs researching further
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[link to www.theatrejunkies.com]

Karen Zumsteg/Executive Production Manager
karen@theatrejunkies.com

"Acting is a way of breathing life into great stories and sharing them with others. Passion and generosity live here. There's no place I'd rather be." -Karen Zumsteg

A Delaware native, Karen began her career in this City of Angels building her technique at the Larry Moss Studio with Michelle Danner and Larry Moss. Contributing to this strong foundation was voice study with Patsy Rodenburg, Brian Drillinger, and Kevin Quinn, and movement with Jean-Louis Rodrigue and Kristof Konrad.Colleagues from these classes became collaborators for a gaggle of short films, one being THE BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG IT, a 48 Hour Film Project where Karen first got to know fellow Junkies Chris Stone and TJ Thyne. Additional film standouts include two features - POPE DREAMS with Julie Hagerty and Stephen Tobolowsky and THE NEXT RACE co-starring Bailey Chase - and short films like CASE TAPE 347 with Project Greenlight directors Kyle Rankin and Efram Potelle and BLIND LUCK opposite Michael Sorvino.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548017

this is just another photo which means very little to me
give me a video tv promo live interview where once this woman admits to this as a hoax
photo evidence is just to unreliable as final say
surely in five years of industry profession this woman has been
asked
interviewed
questioned on this hoax

even the boy in the ballon made television news and various talk shows magazines newspapers worldwide for a month
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01/29/2010 07:25 AM
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and if that is legit
maybe someone can email said party and arrange for this thing to be put in the done with basket
because until then the questions outweigh the answers
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we want video confession

chanting chanting chanting

the natives are restless

supply or fly
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this is just another photo which means very little to me
give me a video tv promo live interview where once this woman admits to this as a hoax
photo evidence is just to unreliable as final say

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Yet apparently you're very willing to accept something off of youtube as reliable.

Why do you need a live interview of Karen Zumsteg admitting it's hoax? Isn't the fact that she is still alive and well and acting in LA evidence under her real name evidence enough?

You have to agree that's the woman in the video, right?

What's your thought process here? That if you went to see her theater company in LA she would actually be a holographic projection by the CIA?
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cant believe im asking for this info five years down the track
i cant find any news on this hoax
no not one freakin thing anywhere about this hoax being reported news

why cant any of these pro fakers provide just one
official disclosure link pref
the police report

it is against the law
highly illegal to impersonate police
and police deptments

why was noone charged ?
its hard to cuff something thats not there perhaps
tell me im wrong


i want to believe this isnt happening
because ive seen things that would make ya daddy cry

why is there no official police report?
statements or arrests made public?

surely something must exist in some form
surely if you have followed this since the beginning
you would be able to provide something official
not just a webpage photo

this is not normal!!!!!!!!


there are no coincidences
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this is just another photo which means very little to me
give me a video tv promo live interview where once this woman admits to this as a hoax
photo evidence is just to unreliable as final say



Yet apparently you're very willing to accept something off of youtube as reliable.

Why do you need a live interview of Karen Zumsteg admitting it's hoax? Isn't the fact that she is still alive and well and acting in LA evidence under her real name evidence enough?

You have to agree that's the woman in the video, right?

What's your thought process here? That if you went to see her theater company in LA she would actually be a holographic projection by the CIA?
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lol nothing suprises me in this era of deception

just want to see her alive and breathing literally:)
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tell me im wrong
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You're wrong.
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its kinda like when your child has been injured and your not there all the people in the world telling you shes ok wont matter
you need to see them before your eyes
i know that a bit much to ask but im meeting you half way by asking for a live video of this woman confessing
even if it is just some random tv jounalist probing her
lol i mean that in a respectful way
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if you can provide something of this nature
police reports anything official that can be crossed referenced with authorities please be my guest
im hoping you can
but like i said im doubtful
these people by all logic should have police records
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just want to see her alive and breathing literally:)
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this gets stranger the more i probe into this

so many inconsistencies

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