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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 243809
10/3/2007 4:03 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Guys theres no real point arguing with Barls Knarkley, after all as he keeps on saying about himself, 'He' understands all the 'science' better than most others on here.
Barls and his other Moon Landing proponents can't let it sink into their brains that 'Science' has nothing to do with the faking of the Moon Landings.
Thats why I've always ignored for quite a while now of not reading anything posted by Barls and his kind. Quoting: SpaceCadet
This anal retentive shill also feels compelled to dissect every sentence of every post with his never-ending BS.
I guess that's part of being a "professional." |
| Barls Knarkley
User ID: 177477
10/3/2007 4:05 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
So you accept that some of the Apollo systems were real. Can you specify which ones were obviously faked, and why?
[ link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
Why? Just LOOK at this laughable POS.
How fucking gullible do you think we are, anyway?
I'm going to cut and paste my response to this from the last Moon hoax thread from a week ago.
With your vast knowledge of spacecraft design, can you tell me specifically what is wrong with that photo? In your answer, address the fact that the lunar lander never had to operate in an atmosphere, so aerodynamics were irrelevant.
Also explain why, if it such an obviously shoddy stage prop, that NASA publically released the photo with this level of detail in it. If they spent billions on a hoax, why couldn't they spend a bit more on prop design? Given that there are stated technical reasons for the lander to be the way it is, reasons that were discussed publicly well before the lander ever flew, then you have on the one hand an assertion that the best-kept hoax secret in human history was so incompetent as to let such 'shoddy' props be seen by everyone, or on the other hand just possibly your understanding of spacecraft design is deficient. I'm sure you'll dispute that, so let's get down and dirty with the details. You first. |
| Barls Knarkley
User ID: 177477
10/3/2007 4:10 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
This anal retentive shill also feels compelled to dissect every sentence of every post with his never-ending BS. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 243809
Which you, as a dedicated preadolescent GLP troll, never, ever address. Because you can't. You just spew ad hominems and pout about how evil Mom and Dad, I mean the gubmint, really are. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 243809
10/3/2007 4:12 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
So you accept that some of the Apollo systems were real. Can you specify which ones were obviously faked, and why?
[ link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
Why? Just LOOK at this laughable POS.
How fucking gullible do you think we are, anyway?
...Also explain why, if it such an obviously shoddy stage prop, that NASA publically released the photo with this level of detail in it.
Only NASA would know the answer to that, just like they're the only ones who know where those 26,000 "missing" boxes of original Apollo video tapes went (but they want to emphasize, THEY'RE NOT LOST.)
Maybe they think we're as gullible as you do? |
| SpaceCadet
User ID: 16644
10/3/2007 4:14 AM
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This anal retentive shill also feels compelled to dissect every sentence of every post with his never-ending BS.
Which you, as a dedicated preadolescent GLP troll, never, ever address. Because you can't. You just spew ad hominems and pout about how evil Mom and Dad, I mean the gubmint, really are. Quoting: Barls Knarkley 177477
Name calling won't get you anywhere now Barls, don't worry Barls I have no urge to argue with you about anything. I get my entertainment from having a good, hearty laugh at the lunacy of the 'Moon Landings' & the guys like yourself that try to defend the 'Truth' of it all. |
| Barls Knarkley
User ID: 177477
10/3/2007 4:30 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Name calling won't get you anywhere now Barls Quoting: SpaceCadet
There's always a first time, I guess:
Lame sarcasm is like warm coke, you feel like spitting it back in the face of the person who gave it to you. I did. Quoting: SpaceCadet
That is the kind of uppity slime that gets people booted in the face in real life. That's why I hate geeks. I used to feel sorry for them when they got their anoraks dragged through the mud. Not any more. Quoting: SpaceCadet
You're not a shill, you are a too stupid to be a shill. You are a really nasty, twisted, venomous, humourless little fucker who must have been trained in the hydrochloric acid environment of BA or Clavius. The MO is simply not to address the issues and waste human being's time. I believe geeks (like robots) should have rights by the way, not many though. Quoting: SpaceCadet
The other observation I'd make is that both the geek leaders Windley and Plait have the same nasty, twisted yank talk show host style. Having seen videos of them, they are very clearly both effeminate homosexuals (Plait is obvious). There is nothing wrong with being a homosexual but I believe it may explain the 'behind the keyboard' aggression. Quoting: SpaceCadet
I notice you sound like a clone of all the other little drones with exactly the same phrases and quasimodo personality. Quoting: SpaceCadet
The stupidity of the geek mind is like a bottomless pit. Using heavy material for both the dirt and mylar would have done the trick.
This is impossible to the geek mind. Quoting: SpaceCadet
Sorry for the abusive language by the way. Quoting: SpaceCadet
No, you're not. Spare me.
I don't think it's helpful to behave toward a Clavius or BA clone spouting prepared arguments in a uniform linguistic style as if one is dealing with an honest, decent or independent human being. Quoting: SpaceCadet
Clavius and BA are front websites for NASA with attached forums where some of the lowest creatures on the planet congregate. They behave like venomous sneering slimeballs even when there is no one there to insult !! An amazing phenomenon. Quoting: SpaceCadet
You pathetic moron, you wouuldn't know a logical fallacy if it stole your donny osmond cd collection. Clavius geek language 101 Quoting: SpaceCadet
Geeks should have annual checks to see whether there existence is worthwhile. You are a very stupid creature. Quoting: SpaceCadet
Looks like our big, smart ass playground bully Barls Knarkley is just a horrible wee girl like his bum pals Plait and Windley. What a surprise. Quoting: SpaceCadet |
| SpaceCadet
User ID: 16644
10/3/2007 4:33 AM
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Very funny Barls, sorry to say your've got the wrong guy, where 'exactly' did you take all these quotes from that you quote I said, me thinks you are a deceiver and a very bad liar.
They all sound like things IDW has said, your've been a very, very bad Barls trying to mislead people, are you going to say your sorry? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 243809
10/3/2007 4:37 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Barls certainly is "professional", isn't he?
A one-man, tireless 24/7 NASA-defending, debunko-spewing wizard of rhetoric and master of the arcane. |
| Barls Knarkley
User ID: 177477
10/3/2007 4:38 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Dang. You are entirely correct, it was spacedout that came out with those gems. I pasted the quotes from a thread in which someone else had posted my previous list.
I apologise unreservedly. It was not my intention to misattribute quotes to you. |
| Barls Knarkley
User ID: 177477
10/3/2007 4:45 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Barls certainly is "professional", isn't he?
A one-man, tireless 24/7 NASA-defending, debunko-spewing wizard of rhetoric and master of the arcane. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 243809
And you are a juvenile troll full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. You can't back up your empty assertions of fraud; all you can do is sliing insults. Yawn. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 243809
10/3/2007 4:51 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Barls certainly is "professional", isn't he?
A one-man, tireless 24/7 NASA-defending, debunko-spewing wizard of rhetoric and master of the arcane.
And you are a juvenile troll full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. You can't back up your empty assertions of fraud; all you can do is sliing insults. Yawn. Quoting: Barls Knarkley 177477
Hey, at least I'm not naive and gullible enough to believe in the crap you sling.
And at least I'm honest enough not to be recruited as a paid liar.
How do you live with yourself? It's amazes me the people who are completely and utterly devoid of conscience. |
| Barls Knarkley
User ID: 177477
10/3/2007 4:56 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Hey, at least I'm not naive and gullible enough to believe in the crap you sling. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 243809
No, you just refuse to even try to back up your points or explain why I am wrong.
Because you can't. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 243809
10/3/2007 5:00 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Tell us how you live with yourself, shill... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 243809
10/3/2007 5:22 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Very funny Barls, sorry to say your've got the wrong guy, where 'exactly' did you take all these quotes from that you quote I said, me thinks you are a deceiver and a very bad liar.
They all sound like things IDW has said, your've been a very, very bad Barls trying to mislead people, are you going to say your sorry? Quoting: SpaceCadet
Hey, give the guy a break. His only intent was to write "SpaceCadet" 15 or 20 times in substitution of the person he was really quoting.
Why would anyone believe a single word from a prevaricator like this? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 295520
10/3/2007 5:24 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Another success for threadspoilers (tm)
It takes two to get into ad-hominems. When will posters learn to counter ad-hominens with respectful, polite, but deadly accurate riposte? Nothing shuts them up quicker.
Lets see if we can get thread back on track.
There is obvious evidence that the Moon Landings were faked, and that the hoax was global. Like 911.
For me, the success rate of the Apollo missions coupled with the inability of technology to do anything even fractionally as ambitious in space since is a huge red flag. Then you have the 'protesteth too much' William Karel ('no goy were harmed in the making of this move' snigger snigger) 'documentary' featuring Donald 'aspartame' Rumsfeld and Missus Kubrick... 'Dark Side of the Moon' it's called - nothing to do with Pink Floyd....
>>>Anyone into the moon hoax must check this out<<<
But of course there is real evidence. The moonwalks are obvious wire-jobs. Photos leaked out of the set.
Q How could the moon landings and 911 have been faked? Surely the story would have leaked out somewhere?
A By the time of the Moon Landings the Zion/Mason/Bolshevick axis had control of banking, governments, security, and media.
Ashkenazi Jews created Zionism and Communism and are deep in Freemasonry.
Meanwhile mainstream stats have Jewish population stable at 15+ million in the decades before WW2 and stable at 14 million in the decades after 1970. So how come we have an official 6 million cull?
Global Hoaxes are stock in trade of this so-called NWO.
Read the Protocols - leaked blueprint - and see for yourself if they did not predict the transitions of the 20th century. Read also about Albert Pike. Check out the astronaut interview video with Armstrong Aldrin and Collins.
A Music Biz manager I know had lunch with Armstrong (and his minder) once. Talk about Apollo was forbidden.
Anyway, go do your own research if you are not up to speed on all of this. I am late with a mix.... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 292560
10/3/2007 5:25 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
who the hell knows? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 243809
10/3/2007 5:35 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
who the hell knows? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 292560
Nobody, unless you do your own observing, investigating and analysis.
Those who sub-contract their thinking out to self-styled "experts" and the MSM get what they deserve. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 302256
10/3/2007 8:14 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
"Given what I mentioned above, it is obvious that NASA never claimed any such thing. Either you misunderstood what someone else has told you, you were given incorrect information, or you are just making stuff up off the top of your head."
Those were my thoughts exactly.
The moon hoax believers have go to be the most obstinate and willfully obtuse crackpots in all of woo-woodom.
They'll say any damn fool thing without spending a minute investigating it.
Nothing you can say or do will ever convince them to change their mind. If you took them to the moon and showed them the lunar landers, they'd say they were put there by unmanned probes. |
| Barls Knarkley
User ID: 28648
10/3/2007 8:15 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Hey, give the guy a break. His only intent was to write "SpaceCadet" 15 or 20 times in substitution of the person he was really quoting.
Why would anyone believe a single word from a prevaricator like this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 243809
I cut and pasted the list from this page:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
If you look at it, you will see that the list, being itself a quote, did not preserve the original quote tags from the earlier thread in which I compiled the list. I searched for the page using SpaceCadet's name, and you will see that he is quoted elsewhere on the page. Given I couldn't find the original list on a cursory search, I thought I was recreating it by reinserting the quote tags. It was lazy, and, as it turns out, embarrassingly mistaken. I have confused SpaceCadet and spacedout in the past, I should have known better and checked more thoroughly. It was stupid of me. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 302256
10/3/2007 8:32 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
"Given what I mentioned above, it is obvious that NASA never claimed any such thing. Either you misunderstood what someone else has told you, you were given incorrect information, or you are just making stuff up off the top of your head."
Those were my thoughts exactly.
The moon hoax believers have go to be the most obstinate and willfully obtuse crackpots in all of woo-woodom.
They'll say any damn fool thing without spending a minute investigating it.
Nothing you can say or do will ever convince them to change their mind. If you took them to the moon and showed them the lunar landers, they'd say they were put there by unmanned probes. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 243809
10/3/2007 8:38 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Nothing you can say or do will ever convince them to change their mind. If you took them to the moon and showed them the lunar landers, they'd say they were put there by unmanned probes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 302256
We already decided that the lunar lander was a third grade art project:
[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
If this ridiculous photo doesn't change YOUR mind that the whole thing was faked, then nothing will. |
| Barls Knarkley
User ID: 28648
10/3/2007 8:40 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
For me, the success rate of the Apollo missions Quoting: Anonymous Coward 295520
Let's compare Apollo with the Space Shuttle. If you include Apollo 1, Skylab and the Apollo-Soyuz mission, Apollo had 16 missions (48 crewmembers) with three fatalities and one aborted mission. the Shuttle has had 119 missions (827 crewmembers) with 14 fatalities and 2 mission failures. The fatality rate for Apollo is thus 6.25 percent and the mission failure rate is 12.5 percent. The Shuttle fatality rate is 1.69 percent and the mission failure rate is 1.68 percent. Which system has proven to be more reliable?
coupled with the inability of technology to do anything even fractionally as ambitious in space since Quoting: Anonymous Coward 295520
Money, and perhaps jaded sensibilities or failures of imagination, have been the reasons that nothing has gripped the public since Apollo. Technical capacity has nothing to do with it. The Space Station contains technology that was undreamt of during Apollo. It just has what most people would consider a boring mission. By analogy, Concorde was also a miracle of sixties technology. It is now no longer operating, primarily due to economic reasons. Does that mean that the fact recent technologically advanced aircraft like the new Airbus can't reach supersonic speeds, that therefore Concorde was a hoax?
Then you have the 'protesteth too much' William Karel ('no goy were harmed in the making of this move' snigger snigger) 'documentary' featuring Donald 'aspartame' Rumsfeld and Missus Kubrick... 'Dark Side of the Moon' it's called - nothing to do with Pink Floyd.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 295520
You can take the mockumentary seriously if you want. Please, tell as many people outside the GLP conspiracy bubble about your belief in it as you want. Please. Most regular people are capable of seeing the joke, and would take your credulousness as an amusing sign of the shortcomings of your position.
But of course there is real evidence. The moonwalks are obvious wire-jobs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 295520
Got an example you'd care to examine?
Photos leaked out of the set. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 295520
Link? |
| Barls Knarkley
User ID: 28648
10/3/2007 8:43 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
We already decided that the lunar lander was a third grade art project:
[ link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
If this ridiculous photo doesn't change YOUR mind that the whole thing was faked, then nothing will.
Oh, look, you've trotted out your picture yet again without having the fortitude to answer my request, which I now thoughtfully provide yet again:
With your vast knowledge of spacecraft design, can you tell me specifically what is wrong with that photo? In your answer, address the fact that the lunar lander never had to operate in an atmosphere, so aerodynamics were irrelevant.
Also explain why, if it such an obviously shoddy stage prop, that NASA publically released the photo with this level of detail in it. If they spent billions on a hoax, why couldn't they spend a bit more on prop design? Given that there are stated technical reasons for the lander to be the way it is, reasons that were discussed publicly well before the lander ever flew, then you have on the one hand an assertion that the best-kept hoax secret in human history was so incompetent as to let such 'shoddy' props be seen by everyone, or on the other hand just possibly your understanding of spacecraft design is deficient. I'm sure you'll dispute that, so let's get down and dirty with the details. You first. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 243809
10/3/2007 9:03 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
We already decided that the lunar lander was a third grade art project:
[ link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
If this ridiculous photo doesn't change YOUR mind that the whole thing was faked, then nothing will.
Oh, look, you've trotted out your picture yet again without having the fortitude to answer my request, which I now thoughtfully provide yet again:
With your vast knowledge of spacecraft design, can you tell me specifically what is wrong with that photo? In your answer, address the fact that the lunar lander never had to operate in an atmosphere, so aerodynamics were irrelevant.
Oh, there's nothing wrong with a warped-walled, dented aluminum and gold duct-taped patched lunar lander.
Certainly nothing that some fiberglass and Bondo couldn't fix.
My 1969 AMC Hornet had a better chance of making it to the moon.
Why NASA tried to con us with this ridiculous contraption is beyond me. But then again, these are the same guys who didn't think we'd notice that the rocks and sand under the lunar lander remained undisturbed.
You're too funny, defending laughable crap like this. You're really ready to carry this bullshit to the bitter end, aren't you?
Not the way I'd care to spend every moment of free time, but to each his own I guess. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 307072
10/3/2007 9:27 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Dammit! I've just notices that I accidentally repeatedly pasted the NASA link instead of the quote tags. Wow, that looks professional. D'oh. Quoting: Barls Knarkley 177477
Whats the matter? DOnt you get paid when you make errors?
Hehe only joking, a bit of GLP humour there, keep going this is very interesting. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 307072
10/3/2007 9:42 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Moon landings Hoax or Not, im undecided, but would the US Gov (especially of that era) be capable of hoaxing it? I think so. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 243809
10/3/2007 9:48 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Moon landings Hoax or Not, im undecided, but would the US Gov (especially of that era) be capable of hoaxing it? I think so. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 307072
If they'd do that in 1969, imagine what they're capable of today.
With Bush and the neocons in office, that would be damn near anything. |
| Barls Knarkley
User ID: 28648
10/3/2007 9:58 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Oh, there's nothing wrong with a warped-walled, dented aluminum and gold duct-taped patched lunar lander. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 243809
Okay, that's something we can work with. Important phrases we will come back to later include "warp walled" and "duct tape".
I'm going to take a slightly different tack here. I am one hundred percent certain that you will evade the question, in which case I'll just redefine it as rhetorical and press on regardless.
Can you explain why the 'warped walls' in that shot can not be part of a functional lunar lander? Ordinarily, I'd explain why it could, in fact was part of the LM. I'd like to hear specifically why you think it's impossible. Please give me something more than "just look at it, it's stoopid". Is it too flimsy? Does it not provide enough protection? Does it offent your sense of aesthetics and thus is functionally broken as well? What clinches it for you as proof of fakery?
While you're at it, can you answer my second question about why NASA didn't just make it look like something out of Buck Rogers? |
| FreshLaundry
User ID: 307097
10/3/2007 10:46 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Barls, if the government did hoax the moon landings -- big if I know, but lets say they did -- do you think that the people have a right to know or would they be justified in covering it up?
This post pending review.
[link to kindagamey.com] |
| Barls Knarkley
User ID: 28648
10/3/2007 10:58 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
I'm going to say the same thing to you that I said to the last AC - could you please answer my questions before trying to change the subject? Because otherwise it just looks like you are scared that your assertions can't stand up to scrutiny. |
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