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| nomuse
User ID: 316502
10/23/2007 9:45 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
So, IDW, there is no possible evidence you would accept that a person in another state (me) opened a computer and stuck a probe on it?
This is reproducible. Want more photographs? Notarized statements? A public demonstration? Is there any evidence that would satisfy you?
If there is no evidence that could change your mind, your belief is not scientific.
Oh, by the way, please do cut the ground plugs off all your appliances. It will make other people happy.
There is no electronic need for earth ground (outside of radio). Earth ground is there entirely to protect the user against electrical faults, including external events such as lightning strikes.
There is a need in electrical circuits for a return path. It is common in certain circles to refer to this as "ground" as well.
If you knew basic electronics, you'd know the standard symbols for earth ground, electrical ground, and chassis ground were different. That is because there is no electronic need for them to be interconnected. The reasons for the usual interconnection are safety.
But harken back to that motherboard installation you quoted. You focused on the standoffs, which are important; they keep the OTHER pins and exposed copper of the motherboard from shorting out across the metal chassis. I'm sure neither of us thinks that grounding is good for the positive power leads!
But you skipped right by the informative instruction to touch the chassis to bleed off your own static charge. This works because the chassis is usually held to earth ground. That is to say, there is a near-infinite sink for whatever static potential you might be carrying around.
And in most computers, that same reasoning applies to the large copper ground bus laid out over most of the free areas of the circuit boards. It is electrically neutral, and shares that same neutral point with the equipment your computer wishes to share data with; monitors, printers, other devices with their own ground.
Which can in some circumstances lead to ground loops -- a sometimes problem in computing, a bane of audio (TTL +5 is hard to contaminate and opto-isolators make it impossible. Milivolt audio signals, on the other hand...!) |
| IDW
User ID: 316305
10/23/2007 9:49 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
It seems to me the truely gifted people who have examined the apollo hoax all have suspicion.
yea,you and richard c hoagland!! less talk and more evidence, that it was a hoax....so far i havent seen any,any at all.
all i hear from you is panic,clear paranoia and ignorance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 264194
And you are lying asshole, aren't you |
| IDW
User ID: 316305
10/23/2007 9:54 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
lol. what are you talking about!?
phil plait explaining the way that uneducated hoaxbelievers are wrong...and you see a smoking gun!!
read the last two posts by hazzard,and then seek help,you are clearly not well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 264194
That phil plait is employed at all is a smoking gun, He is by far the most inept and laughable professional in any field I have ever encountered. The fact that he is employed is suspicious in of itself.What I was refering to is the circle jerks you have over there with me as the subject of conversation when I post here, you know, when you organize your attacks? You'd be suprised how much of that garbage I have amassed. |
| nomuse
User ID: 316502
10/23/2007 9:56 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
However, a true scientist will test their assumptions. I physically cracked the case of my desktop computer and verified my assumption.
I sincerely doubt IDW will dare to do the same. Instead, all he seems up to is calling other people liars.
I am not going to ruin a computer because you are a moron. A true scientist does not do something incredibly stupid to prove a point. Quoting: IDW 316305
You can't think of a way to check which way a wire is connected without a multimeter?
And you can't figure out how to use a multimeter safely, either?
You seriously claim you know what you are doing here? |
| idw
User ID: 316305
10/23/2007 9:57 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
So, IDW, there is no possible evidence you would accept that a person in another state (me) opened a computer and stuck a probe on it?
This is reproducible. Want more photographs? Notarized statements? A public demonstration? Is there any evidence that would satisfy you?
If there is no evidence that could change your mind, your belief is not scientific.
Oh, by the way, please do cut the ground plugs off all your appliances. It will make other people happy.
There is no electronic need for earth ground (outside of radio). Earth ground is there entirely to protect the user against electrical faults, including external events such as lightning strikes.
There is a need in electrical circuits for a return path. It is common in certain circles to refer to this as "ground" as well.
If you knew basic electronics, you'd know the standard symbols for earth ground, electrical ground, and chassis ground were different. That is because there is no electronic need for them to be interconnected. The reasons for the usual interconnection are safety.
But harken back to that motherboard installation you quoted. You focused on the standoffs, which are important; they keep the OTHER pins and exposed copper of the motherboard from shorting out across the metal chassis. I'm sure neither of us thinks that grounding is good for the positive power leads!
But you skipped right by the informative instruction to touch the chassis to bleed off your own static charge. This works because the chassis is usually held to earth ground. That is to say, there is a near-infinite sink for whatever static potential you might be carrying around.
And in most computers, that same reasoning applies to the large copper ground bus laid out over most of the free areas of the circuit boards. It is electrically neutral, and shares that same neutral point with the equipment your computer wishes to share data with; monitors, printers, other devices with their own ground.
Which can in some circumstances lead to ground loops -- a sometimes problem in computing, a bane of audio (TTL +5 is hard to contaminate and opto-isolators make it impossible. Milivolt audio signals, on the other hand...!) Quoting: nomuse 316502
THE MOTHERBOARD OF A COMPUTER IS NOT GROUNDED, AND ANY ATTEMPT TO DO SO WILL INSTANTLY DESTROY IT IF THE POWER SUPPLY IS CONNECTED. I HAD THOUGHT THIS SUBJECT HAD BEEN SETTLED, BUT BEING THE IDIOT YOU ARE YOU CANNOT SEE THE FUTILITY IN YOUR EFFORTS. |
| IDW
User ID: 316305
10/23/2007 10:00 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
However, a true scientist will test their assumptions. I physically cracked the case of my desktop computer and verified my assumption.
I sincerely doubt IDW will dare to do the same. Instead, all he seems up to is calling other people liars.
I am not going to ruin a computer because you are a moron. A true scientist does not do something incredibly stupid to prove a point.
You can't think of a way to check which way a wire is connected without a multimeter?
And you can't figure out how to use a multimeter safely, either?
You seriously claim you know what you are doing here? Quoting: nomuse 316502
I not only know what I am doing, I have proved beyond doubt that you have no idea what you're[i/] doing! Face it, fucktard, youre blowhard bullshit cant pass when I'm around. |
| IDW
User ID: 316305
10/23/2007 10:05 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
There is a need in electrical circuits for a return path. It is common in certain circles to refer to this as "ground" as well. Quoting: Nosense
The slang use of the term "ground" as the negative side of a dc circuit refers to the NEGATIVE SUPPLY SIDE. The negative IS NOT the return path,, that is the most common misconception about electricity that exists, proving youre nothing but a copy and paste no nothing blowhard. |
| IDW
User ID: 316305
10/23/2007 10:14 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Come on you ignorant cocksucker, post some other rediculous fucking bullshit. Unless you admit you were wrong, dont expect anything but rhetorical, sarcastic and deraugatory comments, because thats all your dishonesty and your ineptitude have earned. |
| nomuse
User ID: 316519
10/23/2007 10:25 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
There is a need in electrical circuits for a return path. It is common in certain circles to refer to this as "ground" as well.
The slang use of the term "ground" as the negative side of a dc circuit refers to the NEGATIVE SUPPLY SIDE. The negative IS NOT the return path,, that is the most common misconception about electricity that exists, proving youre nothing but a copy and paste no nothing blowhard. Quoting: IDW 316305
Same difference. Yeah, but your strange theory of electronics has no movement of positive charge carriers anyhow, so what are you on about?
"Negative battery terminal" is stupidly limited when talking about circuits that may have multiple voltages and multiple loops. "Return path" is the simplest way to express the situation.
Oh, and blowhard, do you know what AC stands for? Please, please try to tell me the neutral line in an AC circuit is attached to "the negative supply side!"
By the by, I think I found the problem in the forum software. It doesn't like certain image sites. |
| nomuse
User ID: 316519
10/23/2007 10:29 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
So....you are either too incompetent to trace a simple bit of wiring, or too incompetent to use a multimeter safely, or scared you might find out you were wrong, or too lazy to actually do something you lied about and claimed to do...
Heck, or maybe all of the above!
Show ME a photograph of you putting a tester on your computer. Otherwise you are incompetent in basic electronics as well as a liar (since you claimed you did it already).
The link to my SECOND test is posted. |
| IDW
User ID: 316305
10/23/2007 10:31 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
There is a need in electrical circuits for a return path. It is common in certain circles to refer to this as "ground" as well.
The slang use of the term "ground" as the negative side of a dc circuit refers to the NEGATIVE SUPPLY SIDE. The negative IS NOT the return path,, that is the most common misconception about electricity that exists, proving youre nothing but a copy and paste no nothing blowhard.
Same difference. Yeah, but your strange theory of electronics has no movement of positive charge carriers anyhow, so what are you on about?
"Negative battery terminal" is stupidly limited when talking about circuits that may have multiple voltages and multiple loops. "Return path" is the simplest way to express the situation.
Oh, and blowhard, do you know what AC stands for? Please, please try to tell me the neutral line in an AC circuit is attached to "the negative supply side!"
By the by, I think I found the problem in the forum software. It doesn't like certain image sites. Quoting: nomuse 316519
You are one of few people I have ever read that I can honestly claim that I have never learned a single thing from. Youre posts can be counted on to be off the top of your head misinterpretations of what you cannot[i/] possible understand, and I have proved it. Until you admit you were wrong about grounding motherboards and your latest dc negative is the return path bullshit, you'll get no meaningful or positive interaction out of me. Youre just one of nameless rabble of misfits the federal government employs to lie on the internet, and you suck[i/] at it! |
| IDW
User ID: 316305
10/23/2007 10:37 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
So....you are either too incompetent to trace a simple bit of wiring, or too incompetent to use a multimeter safely, or scared you might find out you were wrong, or too lazy to actually do something you lied about and claimed to do...
Heck, or maybe all of the above!
Show ME a photograph of you putting a tester on your computer. Otherwise you are incompetent in basic electronics as well as a liar (since you claimed you did it already).
The link to my SECOND test is posted. Quoting: nomuse 316519
You must be responding without reading the posts. What kind of intelligent response is possible from an airhead that trys not to listen to your side of an arguement, while at the same time answers to it. A computer costs around 600usd , and a multimeter set on impedance will destroy a motherboards sensitive circuitry. Youre a fuckhead. I dont know what you could possibly do for a living other than flip burgers or bus tables. I think its a goddamned discrace to all of us that you ARE employed in the capacity that you are. WHere did they get you, off a park bench somewhere? Ive met children in their single digits that have a better grasp on reality than you do. |
| nomuse
User ID: 316519
10/23/2007 10:38 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
You are one of few people I have ever read that I can honestly claim that I have never learned a single thing from. Quoting: IDW 316305
Your stubborn ignorance is not my fault.
You have an interesting definition of "honesty," though. You've changed your story to agree with the facts I first presented to you, many, many times in the past. A careful read through this thread alone will show several places where you stated the wrong thing, were corrected, obfusticated for several pages, then slid sideways until you could start claiming the idea was yours all along.
Youre posts can be counted on to be off the top of your head misinterpretations Quoting: IDW 316305
Top of the head or cut and paste? Make up your mind.
Until you admit you were wrong about grounding motherboards Quoting: IDW 316305
I make one simple and limited claim. My motherboard is grounded. Prove it isn't or shut up.
you'll get no meaningful or positive interaction out of me. Quoting: IDW 316305
This is a change how?
Youre just one of nameless rabble of misfits the federal government employs Quoting: IDW 316305
I am not currently on State or Federal payroll. What I am hired to do is, among other things, get electronics right. There are literally thousands of people who can vouch that I knew what I was doing when I worked in their facility. |
| nomuse
User ID: 316519
10/23/2007 10:43 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
You must be responding without reading the posts. What kind of intelligent response is possible from an airhead that trys not to listen to your side of an arguement, while at the same time answers to it. A computer costs around 600usd , and a multimeter set on impedance will destroy a motherboards sensitive circuitry. Youre a fuckhead. I dont know what you could possibly do for a living other than flip burgers or bus tables. I think its a goddamned discrace to all of us that you ARE employed in the capacity that you are. WHere did they get you, off a park bench somewhere? Ive met children in their single digits that have a better grasp on reality than you do. Quoting: IDW 316305
Usual IDW rant, as he attempts to hide the fact that HE CAN'T TRACE A SINGLE WIRE.
Boy, what brilliance! What competence! All this blather about how expensive his broken-down POS computer that can't even open images, and about how a properly applied multimeter must fry any circuit it comes near (as if! -- want some links about basic computer troubleshooting?) is all to hide the fact that he can't OPEN his computer and LOOK to see which wire connects to what.
Oh, the hell with it. He's too blinded by ego to be worth spending more time on. I just got my second ATmega168 in the mail today, and I'm going to spend the rest of my eve wiring it up. |
| IDW
User ID: 316305
10/23/2007 10:47 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
You are one of few people I have ever read that I can honestly claim that I have never learned a single thing from. Quoting: IDW
Your stubborn ignorance is not my fault. Quoting: NoUse
Stubborness is not always a bad thing, and ignorance, well , no one who knows me would make that claim. You know me pretty well, so we can assume its a willful lie on your part.
You have an interesting definition of "honesty," though. You've changed your story to agree with the facts I first presented to you, many, many times in the past. A careful read through this thread alone will show several places where you stated the wrong thing, were corrected, obfusticated for several pages, then slid sideways until you could start claiming the idea was yours all along.
Top of the head or cut and paste? Make up your mind. Quoting: NoUse
Copy and paste editted to your own words, sometimes changing the basic meaning, and outright misinterpretations and diametrically opposed "facts".
Until you admit you were wrong about grounding motherboards Quoting: IDE
I already have, youre just too hardheaded and utterly stuupid to admit it, so youll pile on dozens of other lies defending the original mistake.
I am not currently on State or Federal payroll. What I am hired to do is, among other things, get electronics right. There are literally thousands of people who can vouch that I knew what I was doing when I worked in their facility. Quoting: NoUse}
I make one simple and limited claim. My motherboard is grounded. Prove it isn't or shut up.
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Name ONE, and then tell us who you are where we can confirm it! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74444
10/23/2007 10:50 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
The List is positively BRIMMING with new one-liners.
Thanks for all the contributions, IDW and Nomuse. |
| IDW
User ID: 316305
10/23/2007 10:51 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
You must be responding without reading the posts. What kind of intelligent response is possible from an airhead that trys not to listen to your side of an arguement, while at the same time answers to it. A computer costs around 600usd , and a multimeter set on impedance will destroy a motherboards sensitive circuitry. Youre a fuckhead. I dont know what you could possibly do for a living other than flip burgers or bus tables. I think its a goddamned discrace to all of us that you ARE employed in the capacity that you are. WHere did they get you, off a park bench somewhere? Ive met children in their single digits that have a better grasp on reality than you do.
Usual IDW rant, as he attempts to hide the fact that HE CAN'T TRACE A SINGLE WIRE.
Boy, what brilliance! What competence! All this blather about how expensive his broken-down POS computer that can't even open images, and about how a properly applied multimeter must fry any circuit it comes near (as if! -- want some links about basic computer troubleshooting?) is all to hide the fact that he can't OPEN his computer and LOOK to see which wire connects to what.
Oh, the hell with it. He's too blinded by ego to be worth spending more time on. I just got my second ATmega168 in the mail today, and I'm going to spend the rest of my eve wiring it up. Quoting: nomuse 316519
You are by far the most irrelevant person ive ever engaged. Youve wasted too much of my time , and the best I can tell that was your goal. You make strawman arguements and defend them past the point of reason. Youre an idiot. |
| IDW
User ID: 316305
10/23/2007 10:53 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
The List is positively BRIMMING with new one-liners.
Thanks for all the contributions, IDW and Nomuse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444
Here's a new one for you:
Phil Plait and his band of idiots proved Apollo was a hoax. |
| IDW
User ID: 316305
10/23/2007 10:58 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
I am not currently on State or Federal payroll. Quoting: NoUse
Not currently huh? DId they have a problem with your little threat? I heard they did. In fact I hear youre on probation.
Is that true, or were 'they' just telling me that to pacify me? LMAO!
No golden parachute for you, either, a kick in the crotch. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74444
10/23/2007 11:01 PM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
You are by far the most irrelevant person ive ever engaged. Quoting: IDW 316305
Then you haven't looked in the mirror lately. What IS your relevance? If you are correct, why do you spend your time on a forum which you claim is
1) populated by nothing but government shills specifically here to waste your time?
2) Using super-secret forum tech to make your posts selectively disappear when 'normal' people view them? Or are you going to finally admit you were wrong about that, and it was merely your way of using the search engine that kept preventing you from finding your own threads?
3) Is a fringe board anyway?
What do you hope to accomplish? Why aren't you using your extensive powers to get the word out in much more effective ways? Is it because you'd sudden;y be engaging people who's PROFESSION your impugning, and are terrified of challenging your ideas thus;y?
Youve wasted too much of my time , and the best I can tell that was your goal. Quoting: IDW 316305
The best I can tell, you've done nothing but waste time, ever. You continue to post wild claims without evidence, and more importantly, without consequence. You should have hurried your book along, it would have been much more effective. But, then, you usally take the lazy way out. Heck, you won't click programs ON YOUR OWN COMPUTER to test your own claims. The Windows Calculator was a great example of IDWthink in action.
You make strawman arguements and defend them past the point of reason. Youre an idiot. Quoting: IDW 316305
And yet ANOTHER irony meter! You're on a roll, IDW! Keep it up! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3222
10/24/2007 12:34 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
The slang use of the term "ground" as the negative side of a dc circuit... Quoting: IDW 316305
Oh joy!
Just like when he claimed power was a slang term; back in the "10^5" debate.
Another IDW wiggle: claim than a perfectly ordinary use of a word is "slang" so that he can try to wriggle out of being wrong. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3222
10/24/2007 12:44 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
THE MOTHERBOARD OF A COMPUTER IS NOT GROUNDED, AND ANY ATTEMPT TO DO SO WILL INSTANTLY DESTROY IT IF THE POWER SUPPLY IS CONNECTED. I HAD THOUGHT THIS SUBJECT HAD BEEN SETTLED, BUT BEING THE IDIOT YOU ARE YOU CANNOT SEE THE FUTILITY IN YOUR EFFORTS. Quoting: idw 316305
Why do all the standard pin-outs of the connectors to motherboards have pins marked "ground"?
e.g. [link to www.hardwarebook.info] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3222
10/24/2007 12:49 AM | | IDW
User ID: 316602
10/24/2007 1:55 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
THE MOTHERBOARD OF A COMPUTER IS NOT GROUNDED, AND ANY ATTEMPT TO DO SO WILL INSTANTLY DESTROY IT IF THE POWER SUPPLY IS CONNECTED. I HAD THOUGHT THIS SUBJECT HAD BEEN SETTLED, BUT BEING THE IDIOT YOU ARE YOU CANNOT SEE THE FUTILITY IN YOUR EFFORTS.
Why do all the standard pin-outs of the connectors to motherboards have pins marked "ground"?
e.g. [ link to www.hardwarebook.info]
This is a different definition of ground,it DOES NOT refer to an earth grounding. In the literature you posted , ground is refered to as a common return path and not an Earth grounding like your butt ranger buddy claimed. A "return path" which CANNOT be negative in potential.
If the "ground" is positive, is a return path to the power supply.Negative would be a source, not a return path. Motherboards are not Earth grounded. We have already covered this. If you think the pins marked "ground" in a power supply to motherboard cable are grounded to the metal chassis and therfor to the Earth, youre wrong. Theyre not. If that were the case it would be easier just to ground the motherboard to the case when you screw it in.
You just dont understand what youre reading. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316602
10/24/2007 2:01 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
The best I can tell, you've done nothing but waste time, ever. You continue to post wild claims without evidence, and more importantly, without consequence. You should have hurried your book along, it would have been much more effective. But, then, you usally take the lazy way out. Heck, you won't click programs ON YOUR OWN COMPUTER to test your own claims. The Windows Calculator was a great example of IDWthink in action. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444
Then flake off. Its a simple solution. I wouldnt miss you, I have enough from you already to prove youre nothing but an arrogant and equally ignorant shill. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3222
10/24/2007 2:12 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
This is a different definition of ground,... Quoting: IDW 316602
Yeah, the one where you get to make the distinction (quibble) that makes you appear to be correct.
The reason why you'd not ground direct to the case is the lack of a common connection point would lead to possible ground loops.
[It's the same reason why some audio junkies will get electricians to modify their brand-new thousands of dollar amplifiers to have a common ground point.] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3222
10/24/2007 2:15 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
In the literature you posted...
You just dont understand what youre reading. Quoting: IDW 316602
It is clear from your reply that you did not read anything at the link I posted. I guess that's how you get away with not understanding, by simply not reading. |
| IDW
User ID: 316602
10/24/2007 2:35 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
This is a different definition of ground,...
Yeah, the one where you get to make the distinction (quibble) that makes you appear to be correct.
The reason why you'd not ground direct to the case is the lack of a common connection point would lead to possible ground loops.
[It's the same reason why some audio junkies will get electricians to modify their brand-new thousands of dollar amplifiers to have a common ground point.] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3222
I do not just appear to be correct, I am. That is the difference between you and I. |
| IDW
User ID: 316602
10/24/2007 2:38 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
In the literature you posted...
You just dont understand what youre reading.
It is clear from your reply that you did not read anything at the link I posted. I guess that's how you get away with not understanding, by simply not reading. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3222
I read it, and I understood it. You read it, and thought you understood it.
Explain how a "return path" could possibly be negative.
Whats a positive ground in a dc circuit, and whats the difference between a positive 'grounded' automobile and a negative grounded one. |
| nomuse
User ID: 316630
10/24/2007 3:33 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
On a +/-12V supply (you'll see these in amplifiers) which of the three leads is the "negative" lead?
In an AC circuit, which lead is the "negative" lead?
If I strap a load across two of the phases of three-phase system to get 240 volts, which lead is the "negative" lead?
When the 90v ring signal is sent down the telephone wires, which lead becomes the "negative" lead? |
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