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| IDW
User ID: 316817
10/25/2007 1:57 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
1) What's stopping you from mounting your anti-Moon-Landing lawsuit? You've claimed you've had the goods on NASA for years, and are 100 percent certain you can *PROVE in a court of law* that the Moon Landing was hoaxed -- going so far as to erect truly titanic evidentiary requirements (photos of FOOTPRINTS on the Moon, fer cryin' out loud). Why haven't you filed your case?
I can't really sue NASA, can I? Besides, does NASA or the federal government actually have the money to pay back the American people, assuming I could? DO you really think I am an anarchist bent on destroying cvilization?
2) You have claimed you are not a public figure, but you have also claimed you have an anti-Moon-Landing Book coming out any moment now. Which is true? If you DO have the book, which publishing house is producing it and when? Do you HAVE an ISBN number? According to you, I know everything about you anyway, so it can't hurt to confirm what you've claimed. (Then again, if I DID know everything about you and your book already, what nefarious reason would I have for asking?)
I dont have an anti moonlanding book coming out. I have a truth about the moonlandings book coming out. I intend to present both sides of the debate honestly. Other than that, I am unwilling to give the specifics of how, when and where the book wil be published.AGain, I do not intend to present an unbalanced or dishonest representation of the facts. You will be heard.
3) You claimed on numerous occasions, that the board was "selectively visible," only allowing certain people to see certain threads. Since you were taught how to effectively use the search engine, and have now managed to find threads every time, will you admit that you were wrong about that "100 percent confirmed fact" you were so sure of and repeated so very often?
No, I won't, because I am not. The main piece of circumstancilal evidence confirming that is your dwelling on it. |
| nomuse
User ID: 316856
10/25/2007 2:00 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
That's REALLY going to work on conspirators facing time for embezzlement in the billions of dollars, lying to Congress and the American People, and, oh yes, multiple acts of MURDER.
Are you really as stupid as your posts make you look?
The purpose of requiring sworn testimony in court is not to make criminals testify against themselves. The 5th Amendment protects them anyway. Rather, the goal is to extract the truth from (a) all the innocent people who nonetheless have some knowledge of the crime's elements or circumstances, and (b) people who, though somewhat guilty themselves, can be persuaded (with immunity) to testify against the bigger criminals. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 314242
Did you stop one sentence in?
The hoax as described (not by me!) is capable of purchasing lifetime silence from people. It is described as being so compartmentalized that most of the people involved in the space program even knew it was a hoax. It is described as being able to brainwash even their own astronaut corps. And it is described as being willing to commit murder, up to the present day, to preserve it's secret.
I am having trouble imagining someone remaining silent because of these pressures, yet folding before a lawyer. But then, I've always had trouble with imagining that not one person would make a deathbed confession or anonymous tip. |
| IDW
User ID: 316817
10/25/2007 2:08 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
That's REALLY going to work on conspirators facing time for embezzlement in the billions of dollars, lying to Congress and the American People, and, oh yes, multiple acts of MURDER.
Are you really as stupid as your posts make you look?
The purpose of requiring sworn testimony in court is not to make criminals testify against themselves. The 5th Amendment protects them anyway. Rather, the goal is to extract the truth from (a) all the innocent people who nonetheless have some knowledge of the crime's elements or circumstances, and (b) people who, though somewhat guilty themselves, can be persuaded (with immunity) to testify against the bigger criminals.
Did you stop one sentence in?
The hoax as described (not by me!) is capable of purchasing lifetime silence from people. It is described as being so compartmentalized that most of the people involved in the space program even knew it was a hoax. It is described as being able to brainwash even their own astronaut corps. And it is described as being willing to commit murder, up to the present day, to preserve it's secret.
I am having trouble imagining someone remaining silent because of these pressures, yet folding before a lawyer. But then, I've always had trouble with imagining that not one person would make a deathbed confession or anonymous tip. Quoting: nomuse 316856
You want the truth? You cant HANDLE the truth. Quoting: Jack Nicholson
Nomuse, honestly from my perspective it is easy to see you know youre defending a lie, and even though you do not realize what it is you are ultimately serving, you know you are profitting from it personally. Many people dont really need any more than that to go along with a lie. Youre not alone. Your are working hard to maintain your own enslavement. You are a slave. You have no free will. To have an independant opinion in deference to the one you defend here is not possible for you. |
| IDW
User ID: 316817
10/25/2007 2:14 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
KISSINGER, remember him? He kept Nixon on a leash and dicated both foriegn and domestic policy. Did you know THAT? Who do you think killed Kennedy? WHY?
I bet you didn't think Nixon was on anyones leash, did ya?
Kennedy was the last president to yank at that leash. There is your answer. There is your truth. The instant Nixon went against this agenda he was destroyed. |
| IDW
User ID: 316817
10/25/2007 2:17 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
In other words, the discontinuation of the moonfraud and the Nixon administration were directly related.
The fact that Nixons henchmen committed burgulary was NOT known to him, and he DID NOT give the order, as many to tis day believe. Guess who did. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317105
10/25/2007 2:22 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Reproduce the event, or it remains BS. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316817
10/25/2007 2:24 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Reproduce the event, or it remains BS. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317105
NASA:It'll be at least a decade before we can solve the cosmic radiation problem. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316817
10/25/2007 2:26 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Ever wonder why Apollo, Nixon, and the Vietnam war all ended when they did? What do you think Nixon had to do with it?
THINK! Its easy. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74444
10/25/2007 2:27 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
I can't really sue NASA, can I? Quoting: IDW 316817
Sure you can. And if you really have all the evidence you say you do: shut up and get on with it.
Besides, does NASA or the federal government actually have the money to pay back the American people, assuming I could? Quoting: IDW 316817
So, instead, you crow about it on a message board? That's the best your superior intellect can come up with?
And, really, if you win the case, they'll find a way to pay for it. I *severely* doubt the fiscal health of the nation will affected by your case. So get to it!
DO you really think I am an anarchist bent on destroying cvilization? Quoting: IDW 316817
Geez -- overdrama much? You think if you HAD a case that you could bring before a court, it would DESTROY CIVILIZATION?
That ego of yours knows no bounds.
I dont have an anti moonlanding book coming out. I have a truth about the moonlandings book coming out. Quoting: IDW 316817
Potato, potato.
I intend to present both sides of the debate honestly. Quoting: IDW 316817
Unmitigated bullshit. Let's see you DEBATE the pro-moon-landing side, then. In fact, present a debate, with your super-intelligentness on both sides. Present the case FOR the Moonlanding (using your unique IDWlogic, I am sure), and the present the case against it. Let's SEE that brain in action! I'd like to see what YOU think a valid pro-Moon-Landing argument actually LOOKS like, from your point of view.
Other than that, I am unwilling to give the specifics of how, when and where the book wil be published. Quoting: IDW 316817
Because you are L-Y-I-N-G.
AGain, I do not intend to present an unbalanced or dishonest representation of the facts. You will be heard. Quoting: IDW 316817
I believe it when I see it.
No, I won't, because I am not. Quoting: IDW 316817
Then how have you been able to find the thread every time, since the search engine was properly demonstrated to you?
The main piece of circumstancilal evidence confirming that is your dwelling on it. Quoting: IDW 316817
My main piece of circumstantial evidence proving that:
a) IDW's 100 percent certain claim is worth precisely nothing.
b) IDW doesn't admit it when he's proven wrong.
c) IDW's arguments stating that those who oppose him are "know nothing dullard shill(s) who has yet to prove me wrong, once" are utterly wrong.
I'm dwelling on it, because it is a clear, unmistakable example of your intellectual dishonesty, IDW.
Were you intellectually honest, you would have admitted this glaring oversight in logic of yours, and thus deprived this particular argument of all its teeth. But because you keep denying it, you demonstrate that your appearing right is far more important that truth -- that this IS all about YOUR ego, and nothing more. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74444
10/25/2007 2:29 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Reproduce the event, or it remains BS. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317105
Reproduce the Wright Brothers flying at Kitty Hawk. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317105
10/25/2007 2:31 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Reproduce the event, or it remains BS. |
| nomuse
User ID: 316856
10/25/2007 2:32 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
I testified against a man who will get out and has threatened to retaliate, and I will do so again. I have quit a job and tore up the checks when I did not agree with what the company did. And I am not unusual.
For some reason it seems comforting for some people to believe that the vast majority of humanity are bleating sheep who would gladly push another sheep into the wolf's jaws just to get to their feed a little faster.
I do not believe so. I happen to believe that most people do have a moral center, a place beyond which they will not go.
People every day put up with extreme discomfort for the things they believe in. Teachers in inner-city classrooms. Scientists in lonely vigils in remote corners of the world. Artists who struggle merely to survive, and who have no hope (and little desire) to ever be commercial.
This is one of the things that sickens me about the Apollo Hoax. It is this assumption that out of so many people, over so many years, not one would dare give up a cushy job, or face some veiled threat over the phone, to go public.
It also shows a deep misunderstanding of, not just the kinds of people we are talking about, but people in general.
In the hoax believer world, are there no people who believe strongly in what they do? Who take joy in their accomplishments? Who challenge themselves and live for the next challenge? Are there no people who pulled off the engineering stunt of that generation and lived for the challenge and exult in the accomplishment?
Because that's the sort of people we are talking about here. Space Scientists at the cutting edge of human exploration of space. Engineers at the tops of their field. Test pilots at the top of their game.
And the hoax believers think they can be satisfied with a paycheck. No, worse -- that NASA can trample their dream, remove their challenge, make their accomplishment meaningless, and these sorts of men and women -- to a man, to a woman! -- will sit back and say "Well, actually, my job is more important."
In a pig's ear.
Anyone who believes that kind of crap, has never done anything challenging in their life. Anyone who believes that sort of crap about their fellow man, can't be trusted to watch a parking space for another human being. |
| nomuse
User ID: 316856
10/25/2007 2:34 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Reproduce the event, or it remains BS.
Reproduce the Wright Brothers flying at Kitty Hawk. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444
That's been done, but not quite. They got three things wrong;
They used modern software to check their design.
The pilot had flown before; was in fact an experienced test pilot.
They knew it could be done; it wasn't a first flight.
Oh, so Kitty Hawk must be a fake, then. Failed the insane qualifications of the "test of reproducibility." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317105
10/25/2007 2:35 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Reproduce the event, or it remains BS. |
| nomuse
User ID: 316856
10/25/2007 2:40 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
And no reply yet on my list of three;
Trieste.
Kon-Tiki.
Amundsen.
Not one of the three has ever been replicated. One of these three voyages of exploration went somewhere that has never again been visited, not in the forty-three years since.
The second used a mode of transport that has never again been duplicated.
The third was not only the only time men and dogs journeyed to the South Pole over the ice (and returned), it also visited a place that was not visited again for forty years.
But I hereby offer the standard hoax-believer's escape clause; just disbelieve in all of them. It's simpler that way. |
| IDW
User ID: 316817
10/25/2007 2:43 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Sure you can. And if you really have all the evidence you say you do: shut up and get on with it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444
There is not precedent for such a lawsuit succeeding. First you have to get past a branch of the same government youd be going after.
So, instead, you crow about it on a message board? That's the best your superior intellect can come up with?
And, really, if you win the case, they'll find a way to pay for it. I *severely* doubt the fiscal health of the nation will affected by your case. So get to it! Quoting: 74444
How, by making the people foot the bill for thier own compensation?
Geez -- overdrama much? You think if you HAD a case that you could bring before a court, it would DESTROY CIVILIZATION?
That ego of yours knows no bounds. Quoting: 74444
Perhaps. Even though I might not be successful in prosecuting my suit to fruition, the publicity on the internet would be emmense.EVERYONE has an opinion about the moonlandings, and most of them agree with my basic premise. It would empower our enemies to finish us off, which is thier goal. Its why they sent you to piss me off.
ANd yes, anarchy could be the result.It would prove to the people that thier government does not serve the interests of this nation, but of an international conspiracy.Believe it or not most do still believe out government is American.
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I intend to present both sides of the debate honestly. Quoting: IDW
Unmitigated bullshit. Let's see you DEBATE the pro-moon-landing side, then. In fact, present a debate, with your super-intelligentness on both sides. Present the case FOR the Moonlanding (using your unique IDWlogic, I am sure), and the present the case against it. Let's SEE that brain in action! I'd like to see what YOU think a valid pro-Moon-Landing argument actually LOOKS like, from your point of view. Quoting: 74444
NASA has a well funded propaganda campaign defending thier side of the debate, they dont need me on thier side. Besides, when I started out on this journey I was playing devils advocate, my intent was to reveal to myself the truth.I went up against NASA's team and came away convinced they were lying to me.
Because you are L-Y-I-N-G. Quoting: 74444
And coming from you that has what meaning? If a liar calls you a liar, I mean? How do you know this? Isnt it alie to emply even that you do?
Your posts are always arguemenative and unproductive for either side of the debate. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74444
10/25/2007 2:44 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Thanks, Nomuse. I can see that the argument goes cleanly over 105's head.
Hey, drop me mail sometime. Wouldn't mind yakking with you about other subjects.
privacyisstillgood@yahoo.com |
| IDW
User ID: 316817
10/25/2007 2:45 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Nomuse, Kontiki was a redoing of a theorized journey of the past that archaeologists have confirmed took place. It WAS a reproduction.Thor whats his mane, I read the book, flying fish and glowing water and all. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316817
10/25/2007 2:45 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
heirdall? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316817
10/25/2007 2:47 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
The deep sea journey can be reproduced as well |
| IDW
User ID: 316817
10/25/2007 2:51 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
NASA has a well funded propaganda campaign defending thier side of the debate, they dont need me on thier side. Besides, when I started out on this journey I was playing devils advocate, my intent was to reveal to myself the truth.I went up against NASA's team and came away convinced they were lying to me. Quoting: IDW
I know thier representatives have lied about me, it is no great lapse of reason to assume they were lying about other things as well. And proving it repeatedly to yourself that they were is convincing, compelling an almost impossible to rationalize withen the context that thier mission was one of honesty and integrity. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317105
10/25/2007 2:54 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Reproduce the event, or its all BS. |
| IDW
User ID: 316817
10/25/2007 2:55 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Thanks, Nomuse. I can see that the argument goes cleanly over 105's head.
Hey, drop me mail sometime. Wouldn't mind yakking with you about other subjects.
privacyisstillgood@yahoo.com Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444
Would you mind recieveing a private communication from myself?
There are things you need to know that cannot be revealed here on this forum. You're digging a hole to bury our nation, and beating yourself over the head with the shovel. You do not represent what you think you do. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74444
10/25/2007 3:05 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
There is not precedent for such a lawsuit succeeding. First you have to get past a branch of the same government youd be going after.
How, by making the people foot the bill for thier own compensation? Quoting: IDW 316817
Wait. You've been crying Apollo lawsuit for YEARS, but when someone says to go for it, you're NOW suddenly equivocating? NOW you're suddenly talking about CONSEQUENCE? What is THAT about?
Perhaps. Even though I might not be successful in prosecuting my suit to fruition, the publicity on the internet would be emmense.EVERYONE has an opinion about the moonlandings, and most of them agree with my basic premise. Quoting: IDW 316817
As usual, citing you're lovely lack of sources: SIX percent of people agree with you. But that's neither here nor there.
So, go do it! Why isn't your publicity on the Internet immense ALREADY? C'mon, I double dog dare ya!
It would empower our enemies to finish us off, which is thier goal. Quoting: IDW 316817
What? That makes no sense. You are claiming that your publishing your findings and having your court case would weaken America and cause enemies to finish us off? Then WHY did you make the claims IN THE FIRST PLACE?
Its why they sent you to piss me off. Quoting: IDW 316817
I cannot piss you off. Only you can do that.
And, once again, no one sent me. I'm just an average dude who, somehow, despite being completely outclassed by your ultra-intelligence, still seems to logically nail you to the wall just about every time I'm on. Tell me, if you're so hyper-intelligent, how can an average joe keep DOING this to you?
ANd yes, anarchy could be the result.It would prove to the people that thier government does not serve the interests of this nation, but of an international conspiracy.Believe it or not most do still believe out government is American. Quoting: IDW 316817
You'd think Bush's non-election, the Iraq war, and spiralling deficits, among other serious issues, would have done it, then.
I think your ego is about seven times the size I thought it was, and THAT'S saying something. Hate to tell you this, but huge multi-million dollar movies about the JFK assasination didn't cause the collapse of civilization, either. You are overstaing the consequences of your Apollo case by HUGE leaps and bounds.
And, again, if you REALLY thought this would be the consequence, why do YOU keep insisting about the court thing?
NASA has a well funded propaganda campaign defending thier side of the debate... Quoting: IDW 316817
Which, as you so constantly remind everyone, is full of fifth-rate incompetent intelligences who doesn't know a single shred of anything about physics, rocketry, astronomy, geology, or math and who keep always falling into the traps you so cleverly lay for them.
You can't have it both ways. You've said you're more intelligent than any oppoent you've had. You say that you plan to present both sides of the argument.
I double dog dare you again. Present a Pro-Moon-Landing argument that is IDWApproved. I feel very confident you can't accomplish this feat.
they dont need me on thier side.
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According to you they DESPERATELY need you on their side. Everyone else is completely incompetent! You've said so yourself!
Besides, when I started out on this journey I was playing devils advocate, my intent was to reveal to myself the truth.I went up against NASA's team and came away convinced they were lying to me. Quoting: IDW 316817
I believe that as much as the claims that I just *happened* to pick the exact relativity question that appeared on your physics test. You never went up against anyone actually IN NASA. You went up against the Bad Astronomer, and the Clavius guy. Over on Clavius, my opinion, you had your ass ROYALLY handed to you. And I wouldn't have known that existed without you crowing about it.
And coming from you that has what meaning? If a liar calls you a liar, I mean? How do you know this? Isnt it alie to emply even that you do? Quoting: IDW 316817
If you HAD a book, you would be crowing about it, right along with all the other crap you crow about. It, unlike your other claims, would be a REAL accomplishment. You've been promising the book for years, but whenever pressed for details, you balk. You used your fictional book to prop up your flagging credibility. But your lack of details shows that it is more likely that no such book exists, is forthcoming, nor has a publishing house behind it, nor has had a single page written yet.
So, yes. Until you can prove otherwise, you are lying about the existence of your book. You can prove me wrong, easily, if what you are saying is true. But you won't, suggesting the claims about your book are false.
In other words, you're L-Y-I-N-G.
Your posts are always arguemenative and unproductive for either side of the debate. Quoting: IDW 316817
They are plenty productive for mine. It goes to credibility, your Honor. |
| nomuse
User ID: 316856
10/25/2007 3:06 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Ever wonder why Apollo, Nixon, and the Vietnam war all ended when they did? What do you think Nixon had to do with it?
THINK! Its easy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 316817
Apparently not so easy.
A quick look at the dates shows that the landing was in 1969 and interest peaked shortly after. There was little public interest by 1972.
Which was good, because Nixon was in trouble from 1972, the draw-down started in 1969, and by 1973 the majority of US troops were withdrawn from Vietnam, leaving only a scattering of in-country advisers and embassy guards.
1965 saw the build-up in Vietnam (during Johnson), the Apollo series started in 1961, and Nixon arrived in office in 1969.
Ford came to power in 1974 (and pardoned Nixon).
Perhaps one could make sense of it this way: Johnson was ignoring the Apollo Program in 1965, hoping that with the build-up of American troops he could bring home a victory in Vietnam. When Nixon took over, he reversed Johnson and as he started the draw-down, put pressure on the Apollo Program to bring home a political victory.
Unfortunately the public was fickle, and when Watergate surfaced in 1972 the real powers that be turned on him. The Apollo program was rather quickly ended with Apollo 17, that same year.
Unfortunately they did the job too well. Nixon witnessed the Paris Peace Treaty of 1973 and the end of open American military involvement, but wasn't there to be kicked around any more by 1974, and Ford was already taking some of the heat meant for him with his ill-thought-out pardon, and the biggest disgrace of Vietnam was still to come; 1975 and the fall of Saigon.
Which actually sounds about as tightly-planned and carefully reasoned as any government ever manages. Which is to say; it is oddly plausible. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74444
10/25/2007 3:07 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Would you mind recieveing a private communication from myself?
There are things you need to know that cannot be revealed here on this forum. You're digging a hole to bury our nation, and beating yourself over the head with the shovel. You do not represent what you think you do. Quoting: IDW 316817
Sure. Just last time I gave you the email address, you claimed I was lying and never sent anything.
And, if I am, as you have claimed, an agent for the NSA, why would you want to reveal anything to me? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74444
10/25/2007 3:09 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Would you mind recieveing a private communication from myself?
There are things you need to know that cannot be revealed here on this forum. You're digging a hole to bury our nation, and beating yourself over the head with the shovel. You do not represent what you think you do.
Sure. Just last time I gave you the email address, you claimed I was lying and never sent anything.
And, if I am, as you have claimed, an agent for the NSA, why would you want to reveal anything to me? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444
Oh, and lest I forget, last time you said I LIED about the address, without actually TESTING it yourself.
Where have I heard THAT one before? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316817
10/25/2007 3:10 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
what makes any of you think you actually know the truth about anything you havent independantly confirmed to yourselves? Have you found humans to be basically honest, or inherently dishonest? Did anyone ever tell you the defining characteristic of humans is not that they think, all animals do, and its not that they communicate, or even use tools.SOme naimals do these things.
the defining characteristic of humans beings the differentiates them from all other lifeforms is that they knowingly misrepresent reality to each other.
DO you think you can handle the truth?
I think so.
There are those who would have you believe otherwise, and you are afraid of the truth, the only thing that can possibly set you free from your bondage, which is self imposed. The truth is simple , you are the master of your own reality.And I am the master of it as well. Together, we create our reality.We should strive to make this realitybetter for all of us. |
| IDW
User ID: 316817
10/25/2007 3:11 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Would you mind recieveing a private communication from myself?
There are things you need to know that cannot be revealed here on this forum. You're digging a hole to bury our nation, and beating yourself over the head with the shovel. You do not represent what you think you do.
Sure. Just last time I gave you the email address, you claimed I was lying and never sent anything.
And, if I am, as you have claimed, an agent for the NSA, why would you want to reveal anything to me? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444
Because I think you need to know that you are not destroying an enemy, but yourselves. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317105
10/25/2007 3:12 AM | | Re: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!?? | Quote |
Reproduce the event, or it remains BS. |
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