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Transient Solar Shockwave Detected by ACE on 9/27 - GLP discussed this event on 9/26 - This is a must read!

 
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Transient Solar Shockwave Detected by ACE on 9/27 - GLP discussed this event on 9/26 - This is a must read!
It is now apparent that this shockwave has had a global and not localized effect. My research regarding this subject pointed toward a localized effect that would have been on grand scale. I was wrong. The shockwave has had a quanative affect on Earth. There has been an increase worldwide of volcanic activity as well as large earthquakes. Since the shockwave hit Earth there have been 12 earthquakes of magnitude 6 or higher. The unexpected eruption of the Yemeni volcano is also another anomalous signal.

The question that begs answering is the origin of the shockwave. When you look at the SOHO picture of the incoming shock wave it does not take a astrophysics degree to come to the conclusion that this shockwave origin was not our Sun. Thus the notation of this shockwave being a 'transient' one.
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

Where did this shockwave originate and are there more incoming? These are the quetions that I am attempting to answer.

On 9/26/2007 this thread details what NOAA is now acknowledging.
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Here is what NOAA had to say regarding the transient solar shockwave.

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HERE'S AN EXCERPT FROM THE REPORT AS ISSUED BY NOAA

Geophysical Activity Summary 26/2100Z to 27/2100Z:
The geomagnetic field was initially quiet. However, a weak shock was
seen at ACE at 1054Z, followed by an increase in magnetic field
strength and density as well as a small increase in velocity. There
were some extended intervals of southward Bz and as a result there
was a period of minor to major storm level activity from 1500-1800Z.
Conditions declined to active to minor storm levels for remainder of
the period (1800-2100Z). Although the observations are not yet
conclusive the disturbance appears to be from a transient structure
in the solar wind, rather than from a recurrent structure. The
greater than 2 MeV electron flux at geosynchronous orbit reached
high levels during the past 24 hours.

ALSO THIS REPORT FROM NEW ZEALAND ISSUED A FEW DAYS PRIOR TO THE RECENT M7.4 AUCKLAND EARTHQUAKE

Mt Ruapehu Eruption: 25 September 2007

Mt Ruapehu erupted on Tuesday evening at 8.26pm and produced two lahars, a
moderate eruption column to about 15 000 feet, with ashfall and rock fall
across the summit of the volcano. Following are summaries of various
aspects of the eruption.


Seismic Summary:

The explosive eruption occurred at 8:26pm and was accompanied by an
earthquake that lasted for 8 minutes. A record of the air blast recorded
at Whakapapa Village showed that the explosive part of the eruption lasted
for no more than 1 minute and occurred at the start of the eruption
sequence. As determined by the Ruapehu Eruption Detection System (EDS),
the earthquake was magnitude 2.9. The explosion earthquake was preceded
by about 10 minutes of minor earthquake activity that was recorded only at
the Dome Shelter seismograph and weakly at another seismograph 2
kilometres away. This initial activity was too small and of too short a
duration to provide a useful warning of the impending eruption. Following
the eruption there was an increase in the level of volcanic tremor by a
factor of about 10, but this gradually declined to normal levels within 24
hours. No further volcanic earthquake activity has occurred since the
eruption.


Eruption Deposits:

A ballistic (rock fall) apron extends north from the lake, and actually
exceeds the ash fallout zone. Typically ash travels further than the
heavier ballistics, however in this case the ballistic rocks were ejected
with sufficient force to out travel the lighter ash material. Some
well-travelled ballistics made it to within a couple hundred metres of the
Far West T bar. Many of the ballistic rocks appear to have formed impact
craters, while others appear to have later melted their way into the
snow/ice. No ballistic rocks were seen over Mangaturuturu Glacier, to the
west, an indication of the strong directionality of the blast. The
ballistics comprises various rock types, from old andesitic flows (from
1945 and 1995/96 eruptions), a variety of tephra, and vent-fill debris.
There is evidence for hydrothermal sealing of the vent prior to the
eruption. A number of sulphur-bearing rocks show evidence of the sulphur
having been molten on ejection, indicating vent temperatures at the base
of the lake in excess of 119 °C.

Crater Lake:

The northern vent is vigorously discharging gas at present, with strong
sulphur slick formation, and white frothy, gas-rich patches at the
surface. A much less active discharge was observed over the usually more
active southern vent area.

The lake is a uniform grey colour, being well mixed. Prior to the eruption
the lake temperature was 13° C, it is now 19° C. Lake level is 1-2 m
below the outlet, but appears to be higher than yesterday (consistent with
heating and melt water inflows).

Lahars:

Scientists from GNS Science and Massey University have visited the Lahar
deposits. The Whakapapa ski field lahar travelled approximately 1 km down
the ski field, reaching half-way down the Far West T-bar to an altitude of
c. 2100 m. The deposit is about 30 m wide and consists of grey ashy snow,
with fragments of rime ice and scattered rocks. Initial estimates suggest
the lahar travelled at 20-30 km/hr.

A snow slurry lahar also travelled down the Whangaehu River, leaving a
deposit c. 80 m wide and 1-3 m thick near the Round-the-mountain-track
bridge 7 km from Crater Lake. The deposits comprise dirty granular snow
with a small percentage of Crater Lake water and mud, and scattered ice
fragments and pieces of rock. The deposits thin rapidly downstream, with a
thickness of c. 40 cm at the bund (10 km), 30 cm at the Wahianoa aqueduct
(23 km), and 10-20 cm at the Rail gauge (28 km). Data from flow monitoring
equipment suggests a complex flow process, as they show evidence of two
and at times three phases of flow - two depositional and one erosional.

Summary:

This eruption is similar to the 1969, 1975 and 1988 eruptions. It's
smaller than the 1969 and 1975 events, but larger than 1988. All evidence
available to date indicates the eruption was hydrothermal in nature.

We cannot rule out the likelihood of a future eruption and lahars at Mt
Ruapehu in the next few days to weeks and as such people should follow
Department of Conservation guidelines for access to the mountain. Any
future eruption may also be strongly directional towards the summit
plateau and hence the risk for that area remains high.

The alert level remains at 2 (Minor eruptive activity) and will continue
to be re-assessed.

END OF REPORT...
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Re: Transient Solar Shockwave Detected by ACE on 9/27 - GLP discussed this event on 9/26 - This is a must read!
Wasn't there something similar before the tsunami as well?

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Wasn't there something similar before the tsunami as well?

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There was a rather unusual gamma ray burst prior to the 2004 Sumatra earthquake and the subsequent tsunami. Precisely it was on December 23, 2004.

Scroll down and click on the burst and it will give you a description of it.
[link to grb.sonoma.edu]


The shockwave mentioned here is of an unknown origin. In the case of the gamma ray burst we know when that happened.
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Wasn't there something similar before the tsunami as well?

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There was a rather unusual gamma ray burst prior to the 2004 Sumatra earthquake and the subsequent tsunami. Precisely it was on December 23, 2004.

Scroll down and click on the burst and it will give you a description of it.
[link to grb.sonoma.edu]


The shockwave mentioned here is of an unknown origin. In the case of the gamma ray burst we know when that happened.
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GRB 041223 was long burst, with emission lasting just over two minutes. There were many small peaks of emission during the main burst. Scientists speculate that the smaller peaks are due to the energy from the event hitting and lighting up clouds of gas and dust surrounding the GRB's progenitor star.

Swift is currently (Dec. 24, 2004) not yet automatically moving to view bursts. So 4.5 hours after GRB 041223 was detected, Swift was manually commanded to move to put the burst in the field of the X-ray telescope. For the first time, Swift detected a fading afterglow in X-rays.

Several other observatories report detections of an afterglow in infrared and optical as well.
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Re: Transient Solar Shockwave Detected by ACE on 9/27 - GLP discussed this event on 9/26 - This is a must read!
didn't a "cosmic ray" do something else recently around iapetus? yes i recall it was a cosmic ray.
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no,that was a sea ray that got the crock guy
not a cosmic ray!
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Re: Transient Solar Shockwave Detected by ACE on 9/27 - GLP discussed this event on 9/26 - This is a must read!
please watch the movie under LASCO
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
either one
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Re: Transient Solar Shockwave Detected by ACE on 9/27 - GLP discussed this event on 9/26 - This is a must read!
Supernova 1987A in the Large Magellanic Cloud was supposed to hit us in 1985. Nothing was said then about any shock from that supernova explosion. Do you think this could be it - taking into account both pictures?

Sept 25 0918 [link to soho.nascom.nasa.gov]

Sept 25 0942 [link to soho.nascom.nasa.gov]

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Oh yea, some good old doom!!
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Re: Transient Solar Shockwave Detected by ACE on 9/27 - GLP discussed this event on 9/26 - This is a must read!
didn't a "cosmic ray" do something else recently around iapetus? yes i recall it was a cosmic ray.
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The Cassini space craft experienced some problems and NASA had to do a reboot on the computer systems. All non essential power systems were shut down and the craft was restored to working conditions. I am not aware of a cosmic ray having caused this issue though. NASA never did state what was the exact cause of the problem.
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Re: Transient Solar Shockwave Detected by ACE on 9/27 - GLP discussed this event on 9/26 - This is a must read!
OP, your first SOHO pic and the shock wave were not related.


Many of those similar 'paths' have found their way into SOHO's FOV, sometimes 2 at a time, showing up neither in line, nor parallel to each other, as one would expect of shockwaves.


Let's consider the characteristics of that image.

1. It's localized in size, width, not exactly spread out, or presenting other characteristics of a shock wave.


2. It occurred somewhere between the SOHO spacecraft and the sun....no where in the near vicinity of earth.


3. IF it were a shockwave, based on the direction of it's curve, it's moving from left to right in the FOV, way out in space, no where near heading towards earth.

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