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APOLLO REALITY: How, and where NASA faked the lunar orbit, landing and lift off.

 
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This web page will show how, and where NASA faked the lunar approach, lunar landing, and lunar take off, for all the Apollo Moon landing video's. Contrary to what many believe, the sequences were not shot in a desert, Hollywood studio, or Area 51. There may have been the odd picture taken at Area 51, and a few Apollo pictures that were taken in some remote desert, but the majority of stills and video were performed at Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia. Scientist's at NASA knew in the early 60's that a manned mission to the Moon was impossible within 8 years, and a plan to fake the Moon landings was put into operation. NASA's fake Moon pictures were taken at various locations such as KSC, JSC, LRC, and of course the odd one or two desert locations. I would also like to point out to that the art of faking both still photographs and movie film is as old as photography and film itself. The 1930's film "King Kong" showed a huge gorilla scaling up the Empire State building. If it's on film are we led to believe it's real? No of course not, but that is exactly what PAN's, (Pro Apollo Nutters) are claiming. Their ridiculous debunking claim is that digital manipulation of photographs and film was not available back in the 1960's, but they did not have digital artifacts back in 1930 when the film "King Kong" was made.

Langley is NASA's space research facility, and staff are sworn to secrecy. All files pertaining to the Apollo (fake Moon missions) are stored there and not due for declassification until 2026. Other artifacts including the burnt out Apollo 7 capsule which killed Grissom, Chaffe and White. They have the facilities to perform anything, fake backgrounds, simulated orbiters etc. First piece of evidence is the large 250 foot traverse crane shown below. Notice fake Moon crater surface created beneath the crane.

This crane was PURPOSELY built in 63/64 to perfect the lunar landing as close as possible to the real thing, and used to suspend both astronauts, and the LM itself. It enabled movement of the astronauts and LM in all directions, ie, up down, left right, forward and reverse. The trial runs were so good, and with NASA, fully aware that a Moon landing was impossible, opted to use the setup for faking the alleged cine film of lunar landing, and take off, whereby the flag is blown over.

According to Bobby Braun and other NASA officials the idea was to teach the astronauts how to land a rocket propelled LM. However NO ROCKET POWERED LM WAS EVER SUSPENDED FROM THIS CRANE. In any case anyone with the slightest gumption knows that it is IMPOSSIBLE to control a rocket engine. If the PAN's disagree, then perhaps they could direct me to a video or film showing how the feat was, or could be accomplished. The landings were controlled purely by traverse and lowering of the LM in the same way as a conventional crane.

Below are more pictures showing mock LM suspended from this crane. In the center picture note the circular objects on the ground floor. The vast expanse of ground area beneath this crane was ideal for creating mock lunar landscapes. In reality the area was covered with gray ash, (possibly from some coal fired power station or boiler house), or plain cement. The circular objects were then raised by crane to create authentic looking Moon craters, as shown later.

The far right picture above is a time lapse sequence taken at night. Notice spotlights on crane gantry, and how it illuminates the ground surface. The mock LM was traversed full length of crane, and simultaneously lowered at the same time in order to create an authentic looking lunar landing, when viewed from within the mock LM itself. Power supply to the mock LM was by cable from crane tower. This enabled a large fan, (fitted beneath the mock LM), to create the dust scatter effect of a rocket engine as it descended to the fake Moon surface. The film shown to public of the LM supposedly blasting off from the Moon's surface was also created beneath this crane at LRC. The mock LM was simply attached to the crane, and hoisted very rapidly at the same time a pathetic looking blast off sparks was enacted beneath it. The film was then speeded up for showing to the public, and it is interesting to note that the camera filming this sequence cut short once the LM had reached the crane maximum height. In other words WHY didn't the camera continue to film the LM until it was out of view? Quite simply because it was not possible to do under the circumstances in which the "lift off" was faked.

The above pictures were taken by Bob Nye on June 20 1969, one month before Armstrong, err, supposedly stepped on the Moon. Picture on right shows the lander hovering above fake Moon crater surface beneath the crane. Believe me folks this is how it was done, even if Pro Apollo Nutters say no way. Picture on left, taken at night, looks like a realistic Moon setting, although I am in no doubt that some out there will actually say this photo is the Moon. I have heard so much BS from the Pro Apollo Nutters nothing would surprise me. The light source seen in left picture is the same light source that highlights Buzz Aldrin in the controversial picture of him allegedly on the Moon. Those lights are fixed at top of crane gantry, as shown in earlier picture.

The picture shown left shows Armstrong at the site in January 1970. This is 6 months after he supposedly landed on the Moon, and likewise Apollo 12 had done the same. Evidently he returned to the simulation site 6 months later to figure out how he could do it, having conned the world into believing he actually did land on the Moon 6 months before this picture was taken.

Pictures below show how astronauts were suspended from the crane in order to simulate low gravity. They eventually settled for an upright position with the astronaut suspended by strong elastic/bungee cord, so that his feet were only just touching the ground, the same way as a baby bouncer. You can try it yourself by placing a given weight at the end of an elastic band. As the astronauts walked in a given direction, the overhead crane moved in the same direction. This enabled the astronauts to literally float along in a crude "Moon walk" fashion.

There is a classic piece of film, and I have only ever seen it once. It shows two astronauts supposedly on the Moon, but one astronaut is following behind the other in a dead straight line, and at a fixed distance. Two partners in a strange desolate place would not walk in such a stupid fashion, and so far apart. It's obvious both are following a given line/route, ie, the line or route in which the two overhead cranes are forcing them to follow. In the pictures below, it can be seen how astronauts were suspended from this crane. It is interesting to note that high backward leg swing in far left picture. That high backward leg swing is identical to the back leg swing in the Apollo 17 photo of Harrison Schmitt supposedly tripping up on the Moon (shown right). In another video sequence of Apollo 17 astronauts supposedly cavorting on the Moon, one of them is actually suspended 2 feet horizontally off the ground. This sequence lasts for a couple of seconds, so how do NASA officials explain that, and why is it that no one else has passed comment on this totally absurd picture shot? It's clear evidence that person in space suit is suspended from wires, or some other line. The center picture shows astronaut suspended via a tubular spring to create the "bounce effect" as though they were walking in reduced gravity on the Moon.

Picture on left is a view taken from top of the Langley crane, looking down onto fake lunar surface created beneath.

Picture right shows Donald Hewes beneath the Langley crane. Hewes created the fake lunar surface, and was heavily involved in the fake lunar landing and lift off video's.

Still not convinced? Then maybe this NASA archive, dated 26 August 1969, and copied word for word, will change your mind. It relates to Donald Hewes, who oversaw operations/filming with the fake landing and take off. Read it, then think hard about it. Why were NASA phaffing around with fake lunar landscapes, one month AFTER Armstrong supposedly pulled it off for real? Answer, to make the fake film look ever more realistic, when future, higher quality images were broadcast to an already gullible audience.

Looking down from the top of the gantry on to the simulated Lunar Surface. James Hansen writes: "To make the simulated landings more authentic, [Donald] Hewes and his men filled the base of the huge eight-legged, red-and-white structure with dirt and modeled it to resemble the moon's surface. They erected floodlights at the proper angles to simulate lunar light and installed a black screen at the far end of the gantry to mimic the airless lunar "sky." Hewes personally climbed into the fake craters with cans of everyday black enamel to spray them so that the astronauts could experience the shadows that they would see during the actual moon landing." (p. 375) From A.W. Vigil, "Piloted Space-Flight Simulation at Langley Research Center," Paper presented at the American Society of Mechanical Engineers, 1966 Winter Meeting, New York, NY, November 27 - December 1, 1966. "Ground-based simulators are not very satisfactory for studying the problems associated with the final phases of landing. This is due primarily to the fact that the visual scene cannot be simulated with sufficient realism. For this reason it is preferable to go to some sort of flight-test simulator which can provide real-life visual cues. One research facility designed to study the final phases of lunar landing is in operation at Langley. ... The facility is an overhead crane structure about 250 feet tall and 400 feet long. The crane system supports five-sixths of the vehicle's weight through servo-driven vertical cables. The remaining one-sixth of the vehicle weight pulls the vehicle downward simulating the lunar gravitational force. During actual flights the overhead crane system is slaved to keep the cable near vertical at all times. A gimbal system on the vehicle permits angular freedom for pitch, roll, and yaw. The facility is capable of testing vehicles up to 20,000 pounds. A research vehicle, weighing 10,500 pounds fully loaded, is being used and is shown [in this picture]. This vehicle is provided with a large degree of flexibility in cockpit positions, instrumentation, and control parameters. It has main engines of 6,000 pounds thrust, throttle able down to 600 pounds, and attitude jets. This facility is studying the problems of the final 200 feet of lunar landing and the problems of maneuvering about in close proximity to the lunar surface." Published in James R. Hansen, Spaceflight Revolution: NASA Langley Research Center From Sputnik to Apollo, (Washington: NASA, 1995), pp. 373-378.

We now go inside the Langley Research Center complex itself to see how they faked the lunar approach and close orbit of the Moon's surface. We've all seen the film supposedly taken from the LM as it approached the Moon, and then begin to orbit. The speed at which it changes from approach to lunar orbit is utterly ridiculous, as any craft traveling at that speed would crash straight into the Moon. No one could control a craft in such as way as shown in the film, and in reality no one did. The following pictures show exactly how it was done.

Size does matter believe me, especially when NASA want to create a fake lunar surface as shown in the above picture on left. It literally dwarfs the two men stood in front of it. It's unbelievable the time, trouble and expense that NASA incurred purely to fake the lunar missions. It was of course done purely to convince the world they were the leaders in space. This very large picture, and others were used in conjunction with a rail mounted camera, which also focused on a large rotating PLASTER PARIS model of the Moon, ) shown on the right).   NASA knew, (after Kennedy's speech in 61), that a lunar landing before 1970 was impossible. Realizing this they had no option but to fake the missions. A program was launched at LRC to design props/backgrounds etc. to convince the media they had achieved the goal set by Kennedy. The pictures above were scanned from a book, hence the poor quality, however the following pictures are from NASA.

The high resolution picture above left shows a 20' diameter sphere which can be rotated from below. In the left of that picture can be seen a huge blank placard. This is the scene before LRC staff began work on converting the sphere to an authentic looking Moon complete with craters, ( for lunar approach), and the placards were to be lunar orbit. Notice also the rail track around placards, (there were 3 placards in all). Note moving trolley on that track. The camera was mounted on that trolley. It first began to film the rotating sphere, (lunar approach), it then swung around and began scanning the fake lunar surface on placard, (lunar orbit). The picture above right shows the sphere after modeling work. Pretty impressive eh? Notice how background is in the dark. Remove that bloke from the picture and you could EASILY pass this photo as being taken by the Apollo command module circling the Moon. It is evident that there were many people involved in the faking of Apollo, and NASA claim that if it were faked someone would have spoken out by now. Well LRC staff are sworn to secrecy, and they must have been 100% in favor of the fakery, otherwise they would not have participated in the first place.

The two pictures above show how LRC made "plaster paris" copies of the Moon craters on the placards. They are checking that the craters are exactly to scale and layout, as craters shown on the lunar photographs previously taken by high magnification telescope. Notice the sphere in left hand picture after modeling work. This sphere had a light inside it which was translucent on the outside, hence the appearance. The large placards with Moon craters was also backlit. Turn off all your lighting, and you end up with the picture shown below left. This is how the Moon would look in the void of space if you could get close enough to it, however no one, not even Armstrong could get anywhere near to the real thing.

NASA claim that picture on the right is far side of Moon, taken by Apollo 8. Compare this sphere with one shown above in left hand pic. It speaks for itself does it not? In all of these pictures notice the black background. This of course made it easier for touching  up photo's to ensure that background space was indeed black.

These two pictures prove that you do not need pressurized suits to create an authentic Moon approach or orbit. Take a film whilst approaching the plaster paris model, and it would be enough to convince a gullible audience that film was taken whilst approaching the Moon.

This final picture shows Charlie Duke (pointing), and John Young, at the simulator controls for lunar approach/orbit. The picture on TV screen is reminiscent of the pictures we saw on our TV screens.

We were told it was the Moon, but the picture showing on TV screen in photograph is not the Moon. It is a camera filming the plaster paris model of Moon.

Both John Young and Charlie Duke were heavily involved in faking of the Apollo Moon missions.

So there you have it. I have shown how NASA faked lunar approach/orbit, and lunar landing/take, so next time you see a film on TV of any Apollo craft supposedly approaching, orbiting, landing on, or taking off from the Moon, you will know exactly how it was done.
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APOLLO INSIDER: Detailed info of how Moon videos were faked

Many assume that all the fake Moon stills and video were shot in a remote studio in the Nevada desert, this however is untrue. Both video and still shots were taken at many different places, and the actual videos were indeed shot in remote desert locations many years before the actual mission dates. One of the places chosen by NASA and the USGS, was Chezin Chotah in the Hopi Butte volcanic field. The USGS (United States Geological Society) was heavily involved in assisting NASA to perfect the fake Moon scenarios -- after all they were being funded by none other than NASA. As previously explained, the planning and preparation of faking the Moon missions began way back in the mid 60's, it was not something which NASA suddenly decided to do prior to the Apollo 8 mission. There were 8 simulated tests known as AAP Test 1 to AAP Test 8. AAP stands for Apollo Application Systems. The picture shown below is just such a test at Chezin Chotah. Note that astronauts are suited up for the simulation. The live audio/video was then transmitted by narrow beam microwave link to the ADF (Astronauts Data Facility), at 4th Street, East Flagstaff, over 85 miles away. Microwave link was used so that no one could intercept the communication, had they used radio wave link, there was the possibility that someone might eavesdrop on the conversations. Note the crew are congregating around a large boulder shown just below center of photograph. This is the split boulder, (Tracy's Rock), where Apollo astroNOT Jack Schmitt had his picture taken for the Taurus Littrow valley shot on the Moon.

Security around the area was, as to be expected very tight. NASA needed to be 100% certain that no one would accidentally stumble upon their fakery. This was achieved in various ways. A helicopter hovered above the area on the lookout for any vehicle which may possibly enter the area. If any vehicle was seen that posed a threat, a signal was sent to the 'trespass vehicle nearest the threat' which would then intercept the approaching individuals, and turn them away.

Trespass vehicles were placed on all approaching vehicle tracks some distance from the test site. The staff on 'trespass vehicles' had view scopes to assess the threat posed to the Apollo test. One such trespass vehicle is shown left, with 'heavy man' James Crossan ready to turn any individuals away, he's even scowling at the cameraman as though he shouldn't be there.

The two pictures below show the microwave link between remote desert location, and the ADF at Flagstaff, Arizona.

The weird looking vehicle shown below was the mock LM, which was moved around differing parts of the desert. Note triangular window to give astroNOTS the impression they were in the Lunar Module. The astroNOTS had to recite what they saw from the window. These conversations were monitored at ADF many times over, until the simulation sounded real enough to the staff at the ADF. Picture on the right is a view from the mobile LM simulator, looking across Hopi Butte.

Here's another weird looking vehicle used by NASA in faking the Apollo Moon missions. Called Molab it to was used in remote desert locations to relay information to other nearby vehicles.

AstroNOTS went to many different places from the mid 60's right up until the end of Apollo in 1972, for their so called training simulations. This picture shows just one such place, known as Blackhawk Slide. It is easy to see why they used such sites for taking fake Moon pictures. Just remove those few shrubs in the foreground, (should take about half an hour), and you have your perfect Moon setting, not only that but you already have your 'orange soil' in place ready for Mr. Schmitt to quote his famous remark "There's orange soil here, orange soil on the Moon." Both Cernan and Schmitt were here on 6 Oct 1972 to record their 'Moon Game'.

Finally the diagram below shows how the whole lot was put together to function as though astroNOTS were on the Moon, when in all sense and reason they were in some remote desert here on planet Earth. As explained previously, the astroNOTS conversations were transmitted by microwave link, so the only person/persons who could monitor the conversations were based at ADF in Flagstaff. Therefore the statement made by many PAN's that radio amateurs monitored the Apollo conversations from their garden shed, is nothing more than pure, unadulterated BS. All the monitored conversations from the tests, are now in the possession of the ALSJ, (a subsidiary of NASA). ALSJ of course will insist that the audio tapes are genuine tapes from the Apollo Moon missions. Sheesh.
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APOLLO FAKE: How Michael. J. Tuttle faked the Apollo Moon pictures

This web page will reveal how Michael J Tuttle manipulated, (doctored), pictures from the so-called Apollo training simulations, then posted them on NASA web sites as being genuine pictures taken on the Apollo Moon missions.  I regularly get e-mail from PAN's claiming that digital manipulation of photo's was not available back in 1969. Sheesh. People have been creating fake photographs ever since the camera was invented, and who is saying the pictures were taken back in 69 anyway? PAN's cannot seem to get it into their pea-sized brains the fact that THE MAJORITY OF NASA's FAKE MOON PICTURES WERE CREATED IN THE MID 90's. Ninety five percent of NASA's fake Moon pictures on their web site WERE NEVER SEEN PRIOR TO THE LAUNCH OF THE INTERNET. They had to produce a considerable number of fake Moon pics, otherwise the public would want to know why there were so few. I would also like to point out to the PAN's that NOT ALL fake Moon pictures were digitally manipulated. The controversial picture of Aldrin has not been digitally tampered with, and there were a number of pictures taken in the fake Moonscape scene at Langley, which did not require any alteration to pass it off as a Moon picture.

The task was handed to Michael J. Tuttle in 1994, and here is how he did it using early versions of Adode Photo shop.

This beach photograph was taken from Tuttle's web site. Let's do some PIXEL TRICKS manipulation with the image, using Photoshop, and the same tactics as Tuttle to make a fake Moon picture.

First turn the image into an 8 bit grayscale.

Next black the sky using spray or paint infill.

We now reverse the orientation of image.

By now you should get where I am coming from, and where I'm going too. If that person with hand glider were not in the pic, and the ruffled sand were smoothed out a bit, you would have a TYPICAL NASA FAKE MOON PICTURE. All you need to do is paste your astroNOT where you want him. The few blades of grass can easily be erased, its just that I do not need to go the whole hog to get my point across.

Notice total absence of tire tracks directly behind the Moon buggy rear wheel. The Moon buggy and it's shadow have been pasted onto photograph, OR if buggy was genuinely in the picture, it's been placed/lowered there by some crane.

The two pictures below are from a NASA web site. It shows how the images were altered from the original scene. The picture left appears to have a dark sunset at top section, whilst the picture on right shows differing textures between sky line, foreground and pasted mountains. Now before idiotic PAN's begin e-mailing me suggesting I doctored the photo's, I will repeat. THE PICTURES ARE FROM A NASA ARCHIVE SITE. Incidentally Tuttle has owned up to digitally altering photographs for NASA, (see APOLLOFEEDBACK). For years PAN's, and NASA, have denied the Moon photo's were fake. Now the truth is out NASA may as well admit defeat. The game is definitely up.

Come along Mr. Tuttle you know full well what appears here is the truth. You also created the 360 degree landing site FAKE shots.

Hundreds of questions have been put to NASA regarding the alleged Moon photographs, and not once have they replied with a logical explanation. One of those questions was:- "Why are some Moon photographs in color, whilst others are in monochrome?" According to NASA no expense was spared with Apollo, so why the difference, why aren't ALL the photographs in color?

The answer to that question is quite simple. A few color photographs were taken during the Apollo 11 to Apollo 17 period. Those photographs were for publicity/press coverage. However in later years, when the Internet came into existence, the public wanted to see more photographs from those Apollo missions, and of course none were available. NASA therefore instructed Tuttle to "conjure up" some authentic looking Moon pictures. Using the method shown above, it was easier to compose a picture in 8 bit grayscale, and in any case if Tuttle left the original colors, in the picture, it would be obvious the surface was nothing more than sand. In the fake Apollo 14 shot with Shepherd holding the flag, the surface is sandy colored, simply BECAUSE IT IS SAND. That is why Moon boot footprints show up so well.
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APOLLO DATA: Misleading data from the Moon missions

The following data was taken from "One Small Step" by Tim Furniss, and the "McGraw Hill Encyclopedia of Space & Technology"

APOLLO 8: Mission duration 147 Hrs: Moon orbits 20 Hrs: Journey time 127 Hrs

APOLLO 10: Mission duration 192 Hrs: Moon orbits 64 Hrs: Journey time 128 Hrs

APOLLO 11: Mission duration 195 Hrs: Moon orbits 62 Hrs: Journey time 133 Hrs

APOLLO 12: Mission duration 143 Hrs: Moon orbits 90 Hrs: Journey time 53 Hrs

APOLLO 13: Mission duration 143 Hrs: Moon orbits 1 Hr: Journey time 142 Hrs

APOLLO 14: Mission duration 216 Hrs: Moon orbits 68 Hrs: Journey time 148 Hrs

APOLLO 15: Mission duration 295 Hrs: Moon orbits 148 Hrs: Journey time 147 Hrs

APOLLO 16: Mission duration 266 Hrs: Moon orbits 128 Hrs: Journey time 138 Hrs

APOLLO 17: Mission duration 302 Hrs: Moon orbits 150 Hrs: Journey time 152 Hrs

Apollo 8 took 20 hours to complete 10 Moon orbits, which equates to an average time of 2 hours per orbit! Transferring the data to other missions results in vastly differing journey times to and from the Moon, which does not make sense. So Apollo 12 got to the Moon in 26.5 hours, and yet Apollo 17 took 76 hours, how come? Did it get held up in a 'coned off' section of the galaxy on its way to and from the Moon? For crying out load, it takes the space shuttle 66 Hrs to reach the ISS which is only 185 miles above Earth. NASA claim Apollo 13 encountered a problem 55 Hrs into duration time when it was over 200,000 miles from Earth. Sheesh. NASA also claim the Apollo missions traveled to Moon by 'trans lunar orbit'. This is complete and utter nonsense, as it defies all laws of physics in relation to the way objects move in space. The only way to travel in space is by orbiting the planet from where the spacecraft was launched. On each orbit the spacecraft is moved out a little further from the planet which it is orbiting. You can imagine it as giro circles, or the groove on a vinyl record, moving from the center of record to the outer edge, the center part being the heavenly body, (planet), from which the spacecraft was launched. That's why it takes the shuttle 66 hrs to reach the International Space Station 185 miles above Earth.

The Apollo mission for each of these astronauts, (or astroNOTS as Ralph René calls them), was their FIRST and ONLY experience of space travel, apart from Shepard's 15 minute sub orbital space hop, which was limited experience of weightlessness. Anders, Bean, Haise, Swigert, Mitchell, Shepard, Irwin, Duke, Schmitt, Roosa, Worden, Mattingly and Evans. The last three of this list allegedly performed deep space walks, (125,000 miles from Earth), on the return mission. Would someone who has had no space experience whatsoever be assigned to such a complex, and dangerous mission in deep space, and why phaff around doing space walks outside the capsule exposing one's self to highly dangerous cosmic radiation, not to mention the possibility of something going wrong, when getting back to planet Earth would be the top priority? Shouldn't those listed have had some sort of experience in low Earth orbit before such a challenging and complex mission?

THE TRUE FACTS SURROUNDING ALL APOLLO MISSIONS

Apollo 8 did 92 Earth orbits. Apollo 10 did 121 Earth orbits. Apollo 11 did 123 Earth orbits. Apollo 12 did 154 Earth orbits. Apollo 13 did 90 Earth orbits, with the so called problem occurring whilst in Earth orbit. Apollo 14 did 136 Earth orbits, without Alan Shepard on board. Apollo 15 did 186 Earth orbits. Apollo 16 did 168 Earth orbits, and finally Apollo 17 did 191 Earth orbits.

NASA used Apollo to further the time that astronauts could spend in Earth orbit, with the view to constructing a space station, however they conned the world into believing they were making Moon landings. This is confirmed by the mission duration times before, and after the Apollo program. The last Gemini mission prior to Apollo did 59 Earth orbits in 94.5 hours. Following on from the last Apollo mission in Earth orbit, (Apollo 17), Sky lab 2 launched in May 73 did 404 orbits in 672 hours before crashing back to Earth. Apollo missions fill the gap between Gemini's 59 orbits, and Sky lab's 404 orbits.
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APOLLO TRUTH: The reason behind NASA's fake Moon missions

When testing the feasibility of humans in space, tests were first conducted using animals. No animal however was used to test a return Moon journey.
If a Moon landing was possible, in reality it was not, then surely it would make logical sense to send the astronaut who had the most space experience on the first Moon mission. An astronaut who had experienced long duration's of weightlessness in Earth orbit. Apollo 11 was Armstrong's second and final space mission, which of course was in low Earth orbit.

When mankind ventures into new, unknown territory, with great risks attached, the first person who makes that journey would, in all sense and reason, accompany the second person, or persons on a return journey for guidance, and essential procedures to prevent any mishaps occurring. Neither Armstrong, Aldrin, or any other Apollo astronaut for that matter accompanied fresh astronauts on that new journey. It is astonishing that all missions managed to land safely and take off again without a hitch, but they never got anywhere near to the Moon, which would of course explain why this was so.

Astronauts with the most space experience should be first in line for any round trip to the Moon, being a return journey of 500,000 miles. However for many of the Apollo astronauts, the alleged Moon landing was their FIRST AND ONLY space mission, which seems somewhat odd. Those first timers were also manning the communication consoles at mission control during other Apollo missions. There were in fact TWO communication links on all Apollo missions. The first was LAUNCH CONTROL, who communicated with the astronauts from the moment of launch, up until they were in Earth orbit. Once in Earth orbit, communication to the astronauts was transferred to those "limited few in the know" who were manning MISSION CONTROL. They had to do it this way so that LAUNCH CONTROL would not wise up to the fact that they were not going to the Moon at all. For what other reason would they have two separate communication links, and why is this practice not operated today?

In 1968, NASA Chief Astronaut Deke Slayton, (one of the main perpetrators of faking Apollo), visited the film set of "2001 Space Odyssey", in the UK He referred to it as NASA East, and it was here that he got the idea for filming the mock lunar module, and command module separation and docking. Film of the alleged booster stage falling away from module was also sequenced on Kubrick's film set. Think about it, how could you install a camera in the center part of a rocket booster engine without it being burned to a crisp? It can only be done on a film set, and why is it we only see this sequence, albeit repeated for each Apollo mission, only on the Moon missions, and not on any other space mission? TV pictures allegedly beamed back to Earth showing the lunar module separation, were razor sharp color images, why therefore were the TV transmissions from the Moon gray and fuzzy, after all they were supposedly transmitted across the same distance in space?

In Tim Furniss's book "One Small Step", there are numerous references to mechanical, electrical, and other problematic failures in practically EVERY Gemini and Apollo mission. It's unbelievable that the USA ever got into space at all, let alone to the Moon and back, which of course they did not. Many NASA space problems and failures continued long after the Apollo program, and still continue today. If NASA could achieve such amazing feats over 34 years ago, then space technology has gone backwards instead of forward.

In the 80's, at the height of the Reagan's Star Wars program, a shuttle was launched into space , and it's on board computer was programmed to "lock on" to a laser beam projected from the top of a 2,000 foot high mountain somewhere in the states. Unfortunately all distance measurements programmed into the shuttle's computer were registered as miles, consequently the "lock on" device aboard the shuttle began scanning the globe searching for a 2,000 mile high mountain. Unable to locate one, the shuttle turned on it's back, and began scanning outer space to search for the immortal 2,000 mile high mountain.

In the 90's, an American shuttle due to dock with the Mir space station, had a fuel leak, and was spraying out fuel as it approached Mir. Russia refused the shuttle to come anywhere Mir, until the leak had been repaired, in case the spewing fuel damaged the stations sensitive solar panels. Following the collapse of Communism in 1989, NASA scientists were allowed full access to Russia's space program and technology, under Communism this was highly top secret technology. What NASA scientists discovered shocked them. Russia had perfected a rocket engine which was 20 years ahead of anything that NASA had at time. This only reinforces the fact that Russia was way ahead of the USA in technology, and always had been. Even today NASA has to continually rely on Russian rockets to deliver cargo to the International Space Station because of ongoing problems with their shuttle.

Admittedly Russia has had the occasional problem/failure, however their problem/failure rate is substantially lower than that of the USA. Russia was of course the first in space with sputnik, an animal, a man, a woman, a space walk, and finally a space station. They were the first in everything to do with space. The USA were paranoid at the Soviet successes in space, as it could not be seen that a Communist country was leading the world in this new found technology.

It was after Shepherd's 15 minute sub orbital "space hop", that JFK made his now infamous speech that America should commit itself to landing a man on the Moon, and returning him safely to Earth, within 8 years. A bold, brash, and somewhat ridiculous statement to make following a 15 minute space hop a mere 69 miles above Earth, after all the Moon was over 250,000 miles away. Scientists knew there and then that it was an impossibility, but Kennedy had said it, and the USA would face ridicule if they could not achieve it.
By the mid to late 60's, NASA realized a Moon landing was totally impossible within 8 years. Top NASA officials met in secret, and decided the only option was to fake the Moon landing in 1969, in the hope that they would get there shortly after, whereby they could shroud the earlier faked missions with genuine Moon photographs and film.

Many point to President Richard (Tricky Dick) Nixon as the main culprit behind the biggest lie ever inflicted on society. This however is incorrect because the idea's and planning which went into faking the Moon missions began in the early 60's, following Kennedy's now infamous speech to Congress. It was therefore L.B. Johnson who had the most inside knowledge and plans to fake the Moon mission, and it was he who made most of the Apollo material classified, with a declassification date of 2026. Nixon took office shortly before Apollo 11, but continued the lies under guidance from the CIA in order to boost American pride which was at an all time low. Every US President from LBJ up to Dubya Bush are fully aware that the Moon missions were faked, but the CIA has the upper hand when it comes to American security, and pride of place in space technology.

Getting to the Moon and back is, of course, a long way into the future, and could not be achieved today, even with a joint international effort to share the cost. NASA faked Apollo so as not to face ridicule over JFK's speech, and to convince western civilization that they were better than the USSR in space technology, when in reality they were not. Now nearly 40 years on, they are making themselves a worldwide laughing stock with their ridiculous pictures on the Apollo web sites. One does not have to be a photographic expert to spot that the pictures are 100% fake.

NASA's feeble excuse for not returning to the Moon is because they cannot afford it. The Apollo program allegedly cost $25 billion, at a time when the USA was heavily involved in the Vietnam war, that alone cost them $250 billion, 10 times the cost of Apollo. They have not been involved in anything as big as Vietnam since, so why this feeble excuse, especially as technology has increased four thousand fold since 1969? If NASA's Moon landings were genuine, then getting to the Moon and back should be far easier today than what it was back in 1969. It would cost the same, or less than what Apollo cost, because the technology, ie, tried and tested methods, along with drawings and equipment etc., has apparently already been done. The reason they cannot return is because they never went there in the first place. One cannot return to a place one has never visited.

In 1981, long time skeptic of the Apollo Moon missions, Bill Kaysing appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show, detailing how NASA had conned the American people into believing that they had landed men on the Moon. A national survey at the time by the program makers showed a staggering 60% of Americans believed the Moon landings were faked. We have moved on a further 27 years, and still there are those who believe NASA lies.

Bill Kaysing has offered to appear on a live TV debate with any of the Apollo astronauts, NASA officials, or even the whole lot of them together, verses him on his own, to answer questions, and debate the authenticity of Apollo. Think about this, if these astronauts had indeed been to the Moon, and NASA truly landed men on the Moon as they claim, then they have absolutely nothing to fear, and could demolish Bill Kaysing's theory in less than 5 minutes. Not only that, but they would make him look ridiculous in front of millions of people, however both astronauts and NASA continually decline for any such meeting/debate on television. That just about sums it up in a nutshell, THEY CANNOT ANSWER HIS QUESTIONS. More recently Kaysing has accused NASA of murdering the 3 astronauts in the Apollo 1 fire because they would not go along with any faking of Moon missions. This is a very libelous statement to make if it were untrue. Has NASA taken any legal action to sue Kaysing for labeling them as murderers? No of course not because (A) The statement may be true, (B) If it were not true any legal action would bring into question the authenticity of the alleged Moon landings, and that is something that NASA do not want.

The TV series "From the Earth to the Moon", showed just how easy it was to create a Moon landscape, as well as simulated gravity. The film was identical in every way to the original Apollo films, and yet this series was filmed in a TV studio. The film makers even used the same scene from the faked Apollo 17 pictures, and even used the same Moon buggy, which was supposedly LEFT ON THE MOON.

There are many, many visual signs in the photographs and film, which point to the fact that they are not genuine, likewise there are many irregularities in the alleged Moon mission data, statements made describing each mission, and comments made by the astronauts. Scientific evidence, namely deadly radiation, also proves that they could not have landed on the Moon, and returned safely to Earth.

It is not mankind's greatest achievement as we were told back in 69, but possibly the biggest scam, con, hoax, call it what you like of the last century. NASA refuse to answer any questions regarding Apollo, and likewise the astronauts are reluctant to talk about their alleged Moon missions, as shown in the acknowledgments section of Tim Furniss's fictional book entitled "One Small Step".

You can tell by Armstrong's actions, and the look on his face during pre launch interview, that he knows he is not going anywhere near the Moon, and has been forced to tell lies in front of millions of people. He is nervous, stumbles over his words, and looks down at the table in front of him like some little boy who has been told off by his teacher. This was to hide his guilt from the camera, hardly the behavior of a man about to make history. The guilt is also clearly visible on the faces of all three astronauts whilst in the quarantine chamber aboard Hornet. All three struggle to raise a smile, but are unable to keep it up. There faces quickly return to a sullen look as if to say "We should not be conning the American people in this way".

There is an old saying that "A liar needs a good memory". Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat.

Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald in 1994. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit 26 years earlier.

During the 60's and 70's, many Third World countries were drifting towards Communism, and the USA regarded any increase in Communism, no matter how small, as a direct threat to their democracy. The USA, under the guidance of the CIA, would pull out all the stops, and do practically anything, to halt this sway towards Communism, no matter how bizarre a plan was put forward. At this time Russia was, and still are, way ahead of the USA in space technology. The CIA assumed that those countries drifting towards Communism were impressed with the Soviet space success rate, when in reality they were simply ridding their countries of corrupt democratic governments.

The CIA also surmised that working class people in the countries moving towards Communism were of low intelligence, and therefore gullible enough to believe anything. Again this is untrue, as Cuban schools have, since 1969, always taught the Apollo Moon landings as fake. If the USA could impress the world with a super human technological feat, it may turn the tide, and convince those countries that a democracy like the USA was the way forward.

It was of course a pathetic move by the CIA, who was ill informed at the time, and did not consider the future implications, because they now cannot find a way to follow on from Apollo. When questioned why no Moon missions have taken place since Apollo, NASA make feeble excuses that they cannot afford it. The real truth of the matter is that they do not have the technology to accomplice such a feat in the year 2007, and certainly would not have had it back in 68, when Apollo 8 supposedly orbited the Moon.

The most baffling aspect of all this, is how astronauts like Armstrong and Aldrin could have been led astray by such a scenario. Both are highly trained fighter/test pilots, and could not therefore be classed as dumbos, moreover they are highly intelligent personnel with a highly skilled job. How could they possibly go along with such a scam, which would undoubtedly be exposed in later years? Many believe they and the other astronauts, were influenced by mind expanding drugs, which were extremely common at about this time. However I have found no evidence to support this claim. The only real way to find out would be to speak to Armstrong or Aldrin direct, and of course this is impossible. Armstrong, and other Apollo astronauts still alive, have strict instructions not to discuss the authenticity of the Moon landings with any reporter, or investigative journalist.

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APOLLO FACTS
Facts surrounding the Apollo missions

FACT: Neil Armstrong is now suffering with mental illness. A direct result of him putting his name forward as the foundation stone for the biggest lie in history. OR it could be that he has become paranoid by the overwhelming number of web sites, exposing him as a liar.

FACT: Rumor has it that Apollo 12 astronaut Pete Conrad was going public about the fake Moon landings on the 30th anniversary back in July 1999. He was killed in a motorcycle accident one week before the 30th anniversary.

FACT: It takes the space shuttle 66 hours to reach the International Space Station which is a mere 185 miles above Earth. NASA claim Apollo 13 was 55 hours into it's duration from lift off when it encountered a problem at a distance of 200,000 miles from Earth. Sheesh.

FACT: On his web site, world celebrity Uri Geller states that NASA's Apollo Moon pictures have been crudely faked, and asks WHY? Uri however is friendly with Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell, so we may ask WHY does he not ask Mitchell himself why the photos were faked?

FACT: President Lyndon Johnson made certain Apollo files classified, with a declassification date of 2026. This is so those involved in the Apollo scam would be long dead and gone, and no one alive to blame. One need not wait 19 years for the truth behind Apollo, as it is already well known.

FACT: In the early 60's NASA officials, realizing that a manned Moon landing was totally impossible before 1970, met in secret behind closed doors. It was at that meeting they agreed upon a decision to fake Apollo 11, in the hope they would get to the Moon later on, and then shroud the earlier faked pictures for genuine Moon pictures. The reality is they never succeeded with any mission.

FACT: Arthur C. Clarke referred to Apollo 11 as a "Hole in History". Historian A.J.P. Taylor referred to it as "The biggest nonevent of his lifetime".

FACT: NASA had not perfected the lunar landing craft in time for Apollo 11. In 2007 they are still trying to get a rocket to land and take off again, 38 years after Apollo was supposed to have done just that.

FACT: Film footage taken inside the capsule of ALL Apollo missions, shows a light blue haze, and curvature of Earth through capsule window, when they were supposedly half way to the Moon, and in the blackness of space. This proves that capsule was only in Earth orbit.

FACT: Moon pictures on NASA's web sites are fake, with backdrop scenes pasted. The pictures reveal a black line penciled in where background meets daylight sky, which was blacked out completely.

FACT: The LM used on latter missions, was the same spec as the first mission, ie, no modifications. It would have therefore been impossible to carry the rover vehicle to the Moon in the same confined LM, even if it collapsed into a more compact form.

FACT: The lunar rover had inflatable tires which would have exploded if pre-inflated, and there was no air on the Moon to inflate them. Pro Apollo NUTTERS claim the rover had solid wire mesh tires. Yes the rover in the museum had these fitted in the mid 70's when they realized pneumatic tires could not have functioned on the Moon. NASA have had 38 years in which to clear up the plainly obvious mistakes within the Apollo program. Each time some one brings up a query NASA correct it and say nothing, ie, they cannot say why the anomaly was there in the first place. Anyway I have pictures of the rover supposedly on the Moon and it has the SAME tires AND tire valves as the one they used at KSC. In other words it is the SAME one. Early close up pictures of the rover on Internet have CHANGED since the blunder was exposed on this web site.

FACT: It would have been impossible to have a water cooled space suit on the Moon, when outside temperature was already at boiling point of water, there would be no where for the heat to dissipate.

FACT: The LM was suspended from a huge traverse crane based at Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia, and was gently lowered at the same time it traversed over a mock Moon surface created beneath it. Check picture on REALITY site, and Channel 4 video "As it Happened" .

FACT: Trainee astronauts were also suspended from this huge traverse crane in a horizontal position to simulate reduced gravity. Check picture on REALITY site with the NASA web site picture of Harrison Schmitt tripping up. The unusual high backward leg swing is identical in both pictures.

FACT: Film footage allegedly taken by Apollo 8 as it supposedly circled the Moon, is the SAME film used for the Apollo 11 mission, except that film is reversed and run backwards, look for "tadpole like" mountain range. What NASA did was to film the mock lunar surface at LRC, traveling in one direction, then reverse camera, and film surface traveling in opposite direction, as shown in video's.

FACT: Film footage showing Apollo missions allegedly circling the Moon, was taken by a rail mounted camera which slowly moved toward a rotating plaster paris model of the Moon.

FACT: James Lovell was reading from a prewritten script in the simulator when he did the voice over for the above film, and referred to the Moon as being "essentially gray, no color, looks like plaster of paris". It was indeed plaster of paris he was referring to, hence the smirk on face of Michael Collins after this remark.

FACT: Anyone who believes the Moon landings must be "essentially green".

FACT: Michael J. Tuttle who composed the fake Moon pictures, used mountain background scenes from the astronaut training sessions in Iceland, and other places, to paste on the genuine simulation pictures. He also digitally composed the 360 degree panoramic shots of fake Moon landing sites for use by NASA. His URL speaks for itself. The majority of NASA's fake Moon landing pictures were taken/composed in the mid 90's, AND NOT in the late 60's as many are led to believe. This was because suspicion was aroused at the time regarding the limited number of photo's available. NASA had to do something rapidly because of the onset of the Internet.

FACT: The Saturn V rocket had shed 97% of its weight upon reaching Earth orbit. The remaining 3% was the space capsule placed in Earth orbit.

FACT: Earth is 250,000 miles from the Moon, yet reflected sunlight from its surface is strong enough to illuminate the darkness on planet Earth. Anyone hovering above surface of Moon would be blinded by the high intensity light reflected back.

FACT: In the mid 60's, Alan Shepherd was removed from ALL space missions due to vertigo and meniere's disease. No one in such a poor state of health would be assigned to such a dangerous and complex mission. He was not even on the Apollo 14 mission, which in itself was only in Earth orbit.

FACT: Alleged Moon rock is basalt rock found here on Earth. NASA made it radioactive by "baking it" in a radiation oven. If it is genuine Moon rock, then it was brought back by a scoop and return probe.

FACT: The monitored radio/data signals were either transmitted from Earth and reflected back by bouncing signal of the Moon, or were transmitted via a leased channel. If a valuable source of monitoring equipment was left on Moon, then it would be used today, and not shut down in the 70's.

FACT: In a TV interview with journalist Sheena McDonald back in 1994, the NASA Administrator, Dan Golden, (alias Dan Dare), openly admitted that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, until they can overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He managed to say this without any mention of the Apollo missions 25 years before, which supposedly went 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit.

FACT: Neil Armstrong has NO momentos or photographs whatsoever from his alleged Moon mission, however he has plenty from his test pilot days. There are no photographs of Armstrong supposedly on the Moon, because Armstrong, knowing the saga was fake, refused NASA permission.

FACT: In 1969 computer chips had not been invented. The maximum computer memory was 256k, and this was housed in a large air conditioned building. In 2007 a top of the range computer requires at least 64 Mb of memory to run a simulated Moon landing, and that does not include the memory required to take off again once landed. The computer on board Apollo 11 had 32k memory.

FACT: When Apollo astronauts were not in space, they were manning mission control communication for other Apollo missions, this was to limit the number of persons in the know. There were in fact two communication links to every Apollo mission. First was launch control who dealt with communication at lift off, and reentry, however once in Earth orbit communication was handed over to the limited few astronauts manning mission control. Check it yourself on film coverage released at the time. Collins, Duke, Aldrin, Lovell, Shepherd, Schmitt, Cernan etc, are all there on various missions. Lovell himself admitted that there were two communication links to the astronauts.

FACT: It would have been impossible for the astronauts to get from the Lunar Module to the conical space capsule, as this section was occupied by the 3 large reentry parachutes, which ejected from the conical end.

FACT: In 2007 NASA does not have the technology to land a man on the Moon, and return them safely. It may be possible in the future, but such a feat is still many, many years away.

FACT: Buzz Aldrin believes he has suffered brain damage as a result of his trip to the Moon. He knows darned well that he never went anywhere near the Moon, and so could not have suffered brain damage in the way he alleges. Aldrin was the only Apollo astronaut who went public, and talked about the Moon landings during the 70's and 80's. The guilt, remorse, and stumbling over awkward questions put to him by the media, have put an intolerable strain on him. His psychological damage is the result of keeping it bottled up for 38 years, instead of getting it off his mind. In Aldrin's book "Return to Earth", he makes a remark that all 6 of them have been made to look fools. Make of this what you will.

FACT: Deadly radiation in space beyond the magnetosphere, make space travel impossible. Scientists have not yet found a way to protect astronauts from this deadly radiation.

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These are emotional subjects for those wh were witness to the events you call fake. anyone who lies long enough will convince those that have no knowledge of the event being lied about, but those that understand....... Well you cannot undermine that. Many people have tried to rewrite history throughout the ages....many have succeded in convincing the masses..... Those that know in actuality, must endure that fallacy created by those that come after.

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These are emotional subjects for those wh were witness to the events you call fake. anyone who lies long enough will convince those that have no knowledge of the event being lied about, but those that understand....... Well you cannot undermine that. Many people have tried to rewrite history throughout the ages....many have succeded in convincing the masses..... Those that know in actuality, must endure that fallacy created by those that come after.

I'm certain that you come after!

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 Quoting: scimitar 306875

You're certain that I come after what? The faked 1969 Apollo lunar missions? Wrong, I watched it live on TV. We were let out of school just so we could see it.

Matter of fact, I recently watched the entire Apollo 11 mission from a 1999 taped 30-year retrospective.

But this time, I watched it with a much more critical eye, noticing things like undisturbed rocks and sand under the lunar lander, crazy and uneven lighting situations that couldn't have come from a single source, no communications dish deployed outside the LM, a phony liftoff from the moon that wasn't even shown even though a camera was left on the lunar surface (they cut from Armstrong saying 3, 2, 1, start engines to the LM being about 100 ft. off the ground.) Then they showed this incredibly gorgeous color picture of the LM linking up to the command module after we just watched three hours of the crappiest B&W moon footage imaginable.

The whole thing was ridiculous beyond belief.
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Fuckin' A, great post.
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you posts above seem to know alot>>>tell were is the first 12 min. that got cut out of the show?
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[photos here] [link to apollodata.bravehost.com]

APOLLO DATA: Misleading data from the Moon missions

The following data was taken from "One Small Step" by Tim Furniss, and the "McGraw Hill Encyclopedia of Space & Technology"

APOLLO 8: Mission duration 147 Hrs: Moon orbits 20 Hrs: Journey time 127 Hrs

APOLLO 10: Mission duration 192 Hrs: Moon orbits 64 Hrs: Journey time 128 Hrs

APOLLO 11: Mission duration 195 Hrs: Moon orbits 62 Hrs: Journey time 133 Hrs

APOLLO 12: Mission duration 143 Hrs: Moon orbits 90 Hrs: Journey time 53 Hrs

APOLLO 13: Mission duration 143 Hrs: Moon orbits 1 Hr: Journey time 142 Hrs

APOLLO 14: Mission duration 216 Hrs: Moon orbits 68 Hrs: Journey time 148 Hrs

APOLLO 15: Mission duration 295 Hrs: Moon orbits 148 Hrs: Journey time 147 Hrs

APOLLO 16: Mission duration 266 Hrs: Moon orbits 128 Hrs: Journey time 138 Hrs

APOLLO 17: Mission duration 302 Hrs: Moon orbits 150 Hrs: Journey time 152 Hrs

Apollo 8 took 20 hours to complete 10 Moon orbits, which equates to an average time of 2 hours per orbit! Transferring the data to other missions results in vastly differing journey times to and from the Moon, which does not make sense. So Apollo 12 got to the Moon in 26.5 hours, and yet Apollo 17 took 76 hours, how come?
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The figures for Apollo 12 are wrong; the mission duration was actually 244 hours. How could it possibly have taken the same time as Apollo 13, when the latter didn't even orbit the Moon, and the former landed and had two EVAs? It just shows how much thought went into this.

As for the missions orbiting the Earth, if they had, the spacecraft would have been the brightest objects in the night sky after the Moon and Venus. Interesting that no one noticed them.
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As for the missions orbiting the Earth, if they had, the spacecraft would have been the brightest objects in the night sky after the Moon and Venus. Interesting that no one noticed them.
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There are many interesting things that no one noticed until decades later.

We were young, trusting and naive.
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These are emotional subjects for those wh were witness to the events you call fake. anyone who lies long enough will convince those that have no knowledge of the event being lied about, but those that understand....... Well you cannot undermine that. Many people have tried to rewrite history throughout the ages....many have succeded in convincing the masses..... Those that know in actuality, must endure that fallacy created by those that come after.

I'm certain that you come after!


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 Quoting: scimitar 306875

One lie, one reality.
History is just what it says it is, a mans story.
Apollo was a hoax, and it is childish to defend such a story.
Killing a bear bare handed would have been childs play compared to this. Its a rediculous hoax that the intelligent need only study for a few hours to detect its falseness.
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[As for the missions orbiting the Earth, if they had, the spacecraft would have been the brightest objects in the night sky after the Moon and Venus. Interesting that no one noticed them.
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One lie leads to another and another, it never ends. This is just another in a hardrive of lies I have compiled as told by NASA shills. Depending on the orbital apogee and perigee, the spacecraft would appear like a tiny speck of light, and nowhere near as bright as venus, you fucktard. The ISS isnt that damned bright and how big is it, fool? Shut your fucking sickening lying mouth already, the hoax has been exposed and no one believes it anymore. Who is your intended audience?
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Watch the Apollo 11 lift-off from the Moon: The Eagle Has Landed 1969
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Eagle-Apollo 11 lift-off from Moon, Astronaut & Houston mention 'going down the Model Moon TV railway-track'!


At 18:39, it makes mention of a 'vertical rise', however it is clearly seen that it is only a 'horizontal rise sideways' & no vertical upward rise at all, as if the camera is travelling horizontally on a tv film rail-way track.

At 18:50, Neil Armstrong says, "We've gone right down US 1"

At 18:54, Houston Control replies, "Eagle-Houston, your've gone right down the track, everything is looking great"

Here below that site previously mentioned:
[link to www.geocities.com]

You can see where this part of the supposed Eagle-Apollo 11 lift-off from the Moon was filmed. It was actually filming an artificial large Moon model, with a movie railway track right next to it.

Armstrong & Houston Control put this reference to how this tv shot was really done, in the tv scripted conversation, to possibly no doubt be picked up on by someone later on!
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Applause for the expose of these fraudulent, lying NASA people.
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"The Truman Show" vintage 1969

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An Apollo photo with a hot-spot and 'fall off' in brightness towards the edge of the picture. Note also that all shadows converge to a point on the central axis of the image.

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We want our fucking money back.
Every paid shill should be indicted for perpetrating a fraud. The statute of limitations has ran out on the fraud itself, leaving the real perps untouchable. But the shills who are covering up the crime today like phil plait and Jay "weasely" arent, making them conspirators after the fact and liable to prosecution under existing law. After all the crap these two peices of human shit have shoveled my way, I want to see just that. The statute of limitations hasnt ran out on a crime commited today.
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And... Nasa "lost"the original films of the moonlanding???
The Japanese have a satilite in orbit around the moon now. They could have a look now?
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10/08/2007 11:45 AM
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"You're certain that I come after what? The faked 1969 Apollo lunar missions? Wrong, I watched it live on TV. We were let out of school just so we could see it."

Where did you go to school?
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10/08/2007 11:46 AM
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We want our fucking money back.
Every paid shill should be indicted for perpetrating a fraud. The statute of limitations has ran out on the fraud itself, leaving the real perps untouchable. But the shills who are covering up the crime today like phil plait and Jay "weasely" arent, making them conspirators after the fact and liable to prosecution under existing law. After all the crap these two peices of human shit have shoveled my way, I want to see just that. The statute of limitations hasnt ran out on a crime commited today.
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Give it a rest, ya lunatic.

You hoax believers are the least rational woo-woos I can recall.
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10/08/2007 12:10 PM
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An Apollo photo with a hot-spot and 'fall off' in brightness towards the edge of the picture. Note also that all shadows converge to a point on the central axis of the image.

[link to aulis.com]

[link to www.aulis.com]
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A great site for people who know nothing about optics and photograpy...

and perspective, and reflexions...
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"You're certain that I come after what? The faked 1969 Apollo lunar missions? Wrong, I watched it live on TV. We were let out of school just so we could see it."


I repeat. Where did you go to school?
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10/08/2007 10:01 PM
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Re: APOLLO REALITY: How, and where NASA faked the lunar orbit, landing and lift off.
We want our fucking money back.
Every paid shill should be indicted for perpetrating a fraud. The statute of limitations has ran out on the fraud itself, leaving the real perps untouchable. But the shills who are covering up the crime today like phil plait and Jay "weasely" arent, making them conspirators after the fact and liable to prosecution under existing law. After all the crap these two peices of human shit have shoveled my way, I want to see just that. The statute of limitations hasnt ran out on a crime commited today.



Give it a rest, ya lunatic.

You hoax believers are the least rational woo-woos I can recall.
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So I am a lunatic? Your know where the root of that word originates, even? I'd say your a LUNARtic. This only serves to ilustrate why I want to see you prosecuted. This kind of libel is all you have to respond with. You're guilty as hell of exactly what I said you are, and if you dont like it SUE ME.

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