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3rd quarter earnings season starts TOMMOROW!!!!

 
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3rd quarter earnings season starts TOMMOROW!!!!
TIMMMMMMBERRRRR

if we get a total crash it'll
happen in the next 3 weeks



Profit Outlook Grows Even Grimmer For Third Quarter


As earnings season kicks off Tuesday with Alcoa's results, analysts have been lowering their already bearish forecasts for the third quarter.

The result: corporate earnings are expected to be the weakest in five years and could actually show an overall decline.

The grimmest outlook, as expected, is in the financial services sector following profit warnings by Citigroup, UBS, Washington Mutual and Merrill Lynch.

Still, while analysts predict a brutal third quarter, they believe earnings will rebound in the fourth quarter. And many market watchers continue to predict that even third-quarter results won't be as bad as forecast, leading to some "upside surprises."

The picture will become more clear as the market digests the first wave of third-quarter reports this week. On Tuesday, Alcoa will be the first of the Dow 30 companies to release its results. The aluminum producer, which announced last week that it will take a charge ahead of the sale of some business units, is expected to post a modest increase in profit.

General Electric, another Dow component and the parent of CNBC and CNBC.com, will report its results on Friday. Others on this week's calendar include Costco Wholesale on Wednesday and PepsiCo on Thursday.

The recent upheaval in the financial markets, which marked by a lack of liquidity in the credit markets this summer, is having a predictable impact on the financial services sector, which makes up about 28% of the earnings in the Standard & Poor's 500 Index. That soft spot is skewing the outlook for the nation's largest companies.

"You cannot have a good quarter without the financials," said Howard Silverblatt, senior index analyst at Standard & Poor's.

Thomson Financial is predicting earnings growth of 0.8% in the third quarter before rebounding to double digits in the fourth. However, the forecast could turn negative as financial services analysts are still in the process of lowering their quarterly estimates, according to John Butters, director of earnings research at Thomson Financial.

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S&P is even less optimistic, expecting profits to decline about 1.6% in the third quarter before swinging back to a profit of more than 10.8% in the fourth quarter.

But, as in past quarters, the estimates could prove too pessimistic.

"I think the estimate for this quarter...is probably too low," said David Spika, vice president and investment strategist of WHG Funds, in an interview on CNBC's "Power Lunch." "The fear of what was going to happen in the financial sector, I think, caused analysts to ratchet down their estimates too far."

Spika expects to see good earnings out of the energy and technology sectors as well as some of the basic materials companies and others in industries exposed to foreign growth.

"I think we’re going to see earnings surprises to the upside - not double-digit levels - but to the upside, and I think the market’s going to be pleased," Spika said.

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The financial services sector has been rocked by turmoil in the credit markets, and will likely post weak profit. Revenue from mortgages and refinancing has shrunk, hurt by a soft housing market, rising default rates, and a liquidity crunch. Liquidity pressures also caused losses in fixed-income investments and dealt a body blow to merger and acquisition activity.

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Re: 3rd quarter earnings season starts TOMMOROW!!!!
Any bets on how many 10's of billions in excess profits without returning it into new plants will be reported by the oil companies, again ?

It's not believable that they can't afford to build more plants. the cost, a billion or so per plant. Excess profits per quarter are staggering, all together exceeding 100 billion per quarter.
Time frame to build they say is about 5 years. I say bull caca. So many people looking for lucrative work who can be put to work en masse to get fast completion. I've seen it done.
The oil companies' lies wouldn't fool a 10 year old.
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Re: 3rd quarter earnings season starts TOMMOROW!!!!
and by the way i'm on record predicting
a total crash based on this chart, and
this chart alone!!!!

lol...

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Re: 3rd quarter earnings season starts TOMMOROW!!!!
16.8% decline annualized!!, just
getting started



Slipping imports reflect slowing economy

The falloff of goods from toys to kitchen tiles flowing into the L.A., Long Beach and other ports stuns observers.
By Ronald D. White and Leslie Earnest, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
October 9, 2007
Cargo containers crammed with foreign-made goods that were supposed to set a record in August at major U.S. ports took an unexpected turn, with imports sinking 1.4% in another sign of the slowing of the economy.

Imports of items as diverse as toys and tiles could also be lower in September and October, when retailers will be stocking shelves for the holidays, because shell-shocked shoppers are expected to continue to pull back.

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The falloff "reflects the consumer-demand-driven weakness in the U.S. economy," said Paul Bingham, an economist with Global Insight, a research firm that monitors cargo movements for the nation's top retailers.

The slump in oceangoing imports unloaded at the 10 largest U.S. container ports in August was the first drop since Global Insight began its monthly Port Tracker report in 2005. The number stunned some port watchers.

"When I first saw these numbers, I called the researchers and asked them if they had left a column out of the spreadsheet. I thought it was a typo," said Craig Shearman, vice president of the National Retail Federation, which pays Global Insight to conduct the trade research.

In Fountain Valley, Gary Bedrosian wasn't surprised. The owner of Bedrosian Tile & Stone said he had cut orders by about 15% this year compared with 2006 because new-home construction has plummeted.

"Anybody doing business for the housing market has to be off," he said.

When the Commerce Department on Thursday issues its report on international trade for August, both imports and exports are expected to decline after having jumped in July, according to Global Insight.

The firm said exports would far outpace imports -- no doubt because of the weak U.S. dollar, which makes foreign products more expensive.

"The dollar has depreciated so much that American goods are more competitive," said Sung Won Sohn, chief executive of Hanmi Bank in Los Angeles. On the other hand, the import decline "tells you about what retailers are thinking about the holiday shopping season. They've cut back orders."

"Some of our bank customers who are retailers catering to the Hispanic population -- they are having tough times," Sohn added. "They're ordering less because they're not selling as much."

Retailers have been planning for sluggish holiday sales based on recent blows to shopper confidence from high energy costs, a soft employment picture and pricey mortgages.

In addition, slowing home sales mean that furniture, light fixtures and the like are gathering dust in overseas warehouses.

The change has been clearly reflected at the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach -- by far the nation's busiest gateway for container cargo trade.

From 1997 through 2006, the number of containers handled by the twin ports grew by about 10% a year -- from 6.5 million 20-foot containers to 15.8 million. But through August, the two ports were running less than 1% ahead of last year's record pace of imports and exports.

"It doesn't appear that there will be any real growth this year," said Don Snyder, director of trade relations for the Port of Long Beach.

Imports of building materials plunged 20% in the second quarter from year-earlier figures, the most recent period for which detailed statistics are available. Furniture imports fell 17%, clothing declined 10% and footwear was down 8%, he said.

At the Los Angeles facility, the "ongoing slow-to-flat season is reflective of the weak holiday growth in the retailers' expectations. It would have to be a pretty terrific October to change the overall pattern here," said Jim MacLellan, director of trade services.

Rick Edgley, owner of Tile Matters in Fountain Valley, said his suppliers had little reason to ship in more tile.

"The tract [housing] business is relatively dead," he said. "Vendors I know, they have lots of standing inventory. So if I had to guess, they're not buying any more for a while."

Charlie Woo, owner of Megatoys in downtown Los Angeles, said he had seen shoppers closing their wallets lately, though he added "that may be due more to concerns over the product recalls from China."

Van Nuys-based MGA Entertainment, one of the world's largest privately owned toy companies, expects to experience slight sales growth this year. But Chief Executive Isaac Larian said that was only because the company made two acquisitions this year, involving Ohio-based Little Tikes and a German manufacturer of large dolls named Zapf Co.

"Remove those and our business would be flat this year," said Larian, whose company is known for making the Bratz line of dolls. Still, Larian said he expected consumers to rebound after Thanksgiving, leading to a shortage of merchandise because retailers have overreacted.

Economists keep a sharp eye on consumer spending, which accounts for about 70% of the nation's economy. Given the pressure on consumers' budgets, economist Scott Hoyt expects modest spending growth through the year.

"As long as we continue to have at least decent job gains with tight labor markets, then we'll have enough growth and wage income to support positive spending growth," said Hoyt, with Moody's Economy.com.

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Oct. 9 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. retail sales in September rose at the slowest pace in five months as consumers cut back spending, suggesting that results for the holiday season may be the worst in five years.
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Re: 3rd quarter earnings season starts TOMMOROW!!!!
yesterday, someone posted an article about Chase and BoA expecting a $3,000,000,000 dollar loss for the 3rd quarter. Should be interesting. This whole thing is like a ticking time bomb to me....





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