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CIA caught in another drug bust

 
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WORLD EXCLUSIVE
Oct 08, 2007
by Daniel Hopsicker


Seventeen months after an American-registered DC9 airliner was busted with 5.5 tons of cocaine, a major international scandal is brewing over a second drug trafficking incident in Mexico's Yucatan involving an American-registered jet owned by a dummy front company of the kind usually associated with the CIA.

A weekend visit to “Donna Blue Aircraft Inc” of Coconut Beach FL., the company which FAA records show owned the Gulfstream II business jet (N987SA) which crash-landed with 3.7 tons of cocaine aboard in Mexico’s Yucatan two weeks ago, has revealed that the company’s listed address is an empty office suite with a blank sign out front.

There was no sign of Donna Blue Aircraft, Inc., at the address listed at the Florida Dept. of Corporations, 4811 Lyons Technology Parkway #8 in Coconut Beach FL.

However, there were, oddly enough, a half-dozen unmarked police cars parked directly in front of the empty suite.

Phone calls to Butters Development, the industrial park's leasing agent, went unreturned.

Moreover the brief description of Donna Blue on its Internet page, apparently designed to “flesh out the ghost a little,” is such a clumsy half-hearted effort that it defeats the purpose of helping aid the construction of a plausible “legend,” or cover, and ends up doing more harm than good...

For example, the website features a quote from a satisfied Donna Blue Aircraft customer. Unfortunately his name is “John Doe.” And the listed phone number is right out of the movies: 415.555-5555.

Its known in the trade as "sloppy tradecraft."


"Its My Party and I'll Bust Who I Want To"

The biggest clue to date to the true identity of the individuals or organization operating behind the dummy front of "Donna Blue Aircraft" may lie in its initials, "DBA," for "doing business as."

It is the kind of cute nomenclature for which "the boys" are known to be fond.

For the Bush Administration, which recently launched a PR offensive announcing major gains in the multibillion-dollar anti-drug effort in preparation for asking Congress for a $1 billion Plan Colombia-type aid package to help Mexico fight drug traffickers, the controversy could not have come at a worse time.

The billion dollars in proposed U.S. aid, Mexican newspapers pointed out, will only be used to target drug traffickers with no obvious ties to American intelligence.

Leading to this extraordinary skepticism is the fact that recent investigations into downed drug planes have suffered, on both sides of the U.S.-Mexican border, from a certain murkiness.


New Scientific Discovery Links Drug Planes to Quarks
Mexican authorities and the American DEA have apparently concluded that Mankind’s knowledge of the ownership of large commercial and business jets busted carrying multi-ton loads of narcotics is governed, like the understanding of the movement of subatomic quarks, by Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle.

The more influential the listed owner of the plane is, the more uncertain the identification becomes. The whole business, suggested a story which ran on the Associated Press, quickly moves beyond the realm of human ken…

“How the U.S.-registered Gulfstream ended up in the hands of suspected drug traffickers remains a mystery,” reported the Associated Press.

How indeed? Let’s take a look.

When the company’s principals, Joao Luiz Malago and Eduardo Dias Guimaraes, both Brazilian, forcefully denied that they still owned the plane, claiming it had been sold several weeks earlier to two American pilots in Florida, officials at the DEA (which sent a six-man team to the Yucatan crash site) the FBI, and the FAA were all conspicuous by their silence.

Since then, there has been a growing perception expressed in the Mexican press that the owners of both of the American-registered drug plane’s seem to enjoy an apparent immunity from prosecution.


Set a Straw Man Up, Set a Straw Man Down

“The proprietary company of the unit, Donna Blue Inc. Aircraft (DBA), is another mystery and probably it is a ghost company,” reported Mexico City’s La Reforma.

Indications point to the conclusion that their skepticism is justified.

Increasing suspicion even more was the suggestion, in a report of a committee of the European Parliament, that in addition to having been used in drug trafficking the Gulfstream II had flown CIA rendition flights to Guantanamo.

Unnamed authorities quoted in Associated Press accounts dismissed this report, saying there was no evidence the plane flew renditions, but failed to address the fact that Guantanamo is highly restricted airspace, and any plane landing there can be presumed to be working for the U.S. Government.

What has raised the crash-landing of the Gulfstream II drug plane with U.S. Government connections to the level of real outrage is its extraordinary similarity to the DC9 airliner caught a year and a half ago, after which the planes’ registered owner suffered no ill consequences from having his airplane caught with 5.5 tons of cocaine onboard.

There are “wonderful similarities,” Mexican newspaper Por Esto reported drolly, “between the Gulfstream which crash-landed in the tiny hamlet of Tixkokob and the DC9 busted in Ciudad del Carmen which help explain why, despite the fact that almost 18 months has passed, the American owner of the DC9 has not been charged with no crime.”


Ghost Fleets of Ghost Planes owned by Ghost Companies
The reference is to information contained in a series of articles in the MadCowMorningNews detailing connections between the DC9 and the national Republican Party, like its unpaid use flying current Florida Republican Senator Mel Martinez around the state during his last week blitz before his election to the Senate in 2004.

The DC9’s owner was identified in FAA documents as Royal Sons’ Inc., owned by Frederic Geffon of St. Petersburg.

Yet despite the fact that Geffon back-dated sales documents and then had them faxed to the FAA several days after his DC9 was already in the news for the big bust, no action has been taken against Geffon, or any other owners of the plane.

Geffon claimed he had sold the DC9, several weeks before it was caught, and identified the buyer as an “airplane broker” in California who investigation revealed has no history of selling airplanes.

The circumstances of the subsequent “investigations” share many similarities. The governments involved—Mexico, the United States, Venezuela, and Colombia—all appear unable to agree on who owned the planes when they were busted.

In both cases Mexican authorities were quick to arrest individuals who authorities labeled crew members on the drug flights.


The Third Rail, The Big Taboo, & The Big Fix

But the plane’s ownership has been made to appear “murky,” although the owners of the planes at the time they were caught are clearly named in FAA documents. And both plane’s American owners appear to be escaping Scot-free.

Could the confusion be deliberate?

An aviation executive in Venice thought so. "When it comes to registering airplanes, it’s the Wild West out there," he explained. “An airplane is a mobile, big ticket item. Yet there are no airport police doing ramp checks, or checking N numbers at airports.”

“The FAA system for registering airplanes is little-changed from when it was started back in the good ol boy days of the 1930’s. Each plane has a paper folder, for example, stuffed with all correspondence regarding airworthiness and ownership relating to that plane.”

“Its an antiquated system which some feel is kept deliberately in place to encourage a certain ambiguity when a plane is interdicted. When a change of registration is mailed in, the FAA places a plane’s folder in what they call “suspense.”

“That’s a tremendous inducement to anyone with a chance of having a plane nabbed to keep floating sales in progress. The CIA, for example, is very adept at keeping files on its planes “in suspense.”

An airplane associated in some way with the U.S. Government, said an aviation source with a smirk, would have definite advantages for a drug smuggler.


Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on...

The first incident—the DC9 “Cocaine One” saga studiously ignored in the American press, save for an error-filled apologia in the plane’s owners hometown St. Petersburg Times—dropped from sight quickly with no apparent serious ramifications.

Two weeks ago in the Yucatan, events took a similar turn. And both incidents now seem headed for similar outcomes.

Today only elements of the “wised-up” Mexican press are crying foul.

After being owned for nearly a decade by ARI, Air Rutter International, the Gulfstream apparently changed hands-- at least two, and by one account, three--times in recent weeks.

However the MadCowMorningNews has learned new details that throw suspicion on the claim that two American pilots in Fort Lauderdale Florida could have paid $2 million cash, as described by Donna Blue execs, for the Gulfstream II business jet...

It's a deadly game of musical chairs. What will happen when the music stops?
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link?
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We all need to remember that.
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Link to article:

[link to www.madcowprod.com]
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Mad Cow Productions...great investigative journalism.
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That's why they always wear sunglasses. They're high on dope and don't want anyone to see their dilated pupils and bloodshot eyes.
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So basically the OP has no evidence whatsoever who owns the company, just that it supposedly:

involving an American-registered jet owned by a dummy front company of the kind usually associated with the CIA.

And it is "usually associated with the CIA" cuz the OP says so...

You do realize anyone with more than half a brain can set up a dummy corporation, right?

rolleyes
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Same thing happened pre-911 with Jeb Bush and Catherine Harris, supporting a bogus airline business that was busted for heroin but never charged. Later it was discovered that the money from these illegal trades and discoveries helped fund the 911 attacks.

Anyhoo...that's what I learned.
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Same thing happened pre-911 with Jeb Bush and Catherine Harris, supporting a bogus airline business that was busted for heroin but never charged. Later it was discovered that the money from these illegal trades and discoveries helped fund the 911 attacks.

Anyhoo...that's what I learned.
 Quoting: Sireen 301765


I don't suppose you have a link...
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Same thing happened pre-911 with Jeb Bush and Catherine Harris, supporting a bogus airline business that was busted for heroin but never charged. Later it was discovered that the money from these illegal trades and discoveries helped fund the 911 attacks.

Anyhoo...that's what I learned.


I don't suppose you have a link...
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Hey Snakiepoo,

Thanks for bumping this thread.
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The CIA is the biggest drug cartel in the world.
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The CIA is the biggest drug cartel in the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4776


of course, COCAINE intelligence agency.
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I don't suppose you have a link...
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Hey Snakiepoo,

Thanks for bumping this thread.
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Glad to do it...

I enjoy showing when people make idiotic assumptions and declarative statements without so much as a shred of evidence...

hi
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Why does it make any diff. law enforcement,nationwide, are all connected, all gov entities are all connected, prosecutor's, judge's, that why were having huge problems worldwide, because we back our corruption up with forces, total assholes, they all do it, that makes them ALL conspirator's FELON'S
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[link to gadgetopia.com]

Donna Blue Aircraft: Are you interested in what a CIA front Web site looks like? Look no further than Donna Blue Aircraft.

we are in this business over 20 years, attending South, North and Central america, with outstanding service, we are today most trusted company in this market. our customer loyality make us different.

A little, underwhelming, for an organization the size of the CIA, don’t you think?

According to this article, Donna Blue is a company front for the CIA which exists to hold aircraft registrations for planes which have a tendency to crash in Central America with large amounts of cocaine on-board.
The article is very interesting for spy junkies, but I’m just interested in the Web site angle of it. Who knew that Web site development could be considered sloppy tradecraft? I mean, this thing is so bad it could probably blow an operation in and of itself. If someone was doing background checks on Donna Blue, I have to think this site would work against them

You know, if the CIA needs better fake Web sites set up for their front companies, I know a good company that does this type of thing.

++++++++++++++

Wow! This website deserves its own thread.

[link to donnablueaircraft.com]
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What the OP is trying to say is that there are 3 incidents where tons of coke was recovered, yet no one is going to jail as of yet.
You would think that with all the innovations in crime detecting they would have someone in a matter of weeks.
Any body with some brain power would realize that something stinks.
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To me it seems like the site was set up to turn potential customers away. Why do legit business when special deliveries are more profitable
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Does anybody need more proof this Snakeairlines twerp is a government paid shill?

Thought not!
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Seventeen months after an American-registered DC9 airliner was busted with 5.5 tons of cocaine, a major international scandal is brewing over a second drug trafficking incident in Mexico's Yucatan involving an American-registered jet owned by a dummy front company of the kind usually associated with the CIA.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 131380


A) Posted a week ago

B) bsflag

the plane HAD belonged to a company that had chartered it a few times to the CIA (MAYBE!), and it had flown twice to Guantanamo for unknown purposes.

But it HAD been sold weeks before being found in Mexico.
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I don't suppose you have a link...
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Hey Snakiepoo,

Thanks for bumping this thread.


Glad to do it...

I enjoy showing when people make idiotic assumptions and declarative statements without so much as a shred of evidence...


 Quoting: SnakeAirlines

do you have information that would prove differently?
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if the cia hadn't been involved so much in the past, perhaps it would be easy to shake involvement now, however; that's not the case. the cia would need to prove its innocence just as the average citizen now does.

iran/contra affair? remember?

odd that the one supposed to have sent heroin home through vietnam is heading things in columbia against drugs. odd history's they have.
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The CIA is the biggest drug cartel in the world.


of course, COCAINE intelligence agency.
 Quoting: dude in florida


Cocaine Importing Agency
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why do you think USA is offering 1 billion dollars to Mex afther this 2 catches???

ask about the 205 million dollars from drug, cleaned by USA and Mexico
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You would think that with all the innovations in crime detecting they would have someone in a matter of weeks.
Any body with some brain power would realize that something stinks.
 Quoting: ? 307103

Well said. Yeah they nailed Osama in the matter of hours for doing 9/11 but yet never found him even though they have satelittes covering the planet that can read the writing off a dime.

All I have do do is think about myself and know there is nothing I can do that they couldn't trace in minutes.

The billion dollars in proposed U.S. aid, Mexican newspapers pointed out, will only be used to target drug traffickers with no obvious ties to American intelligence.
They use our tax money to "fight the drug war" and all they are really doing is using it to get rid of their competition.

Let's see the government is fighting wars on terrorism and drugs and the problems always get worse. I don't suppose anyone holds them to any standards to get the job done. I mean if I was a complete incompentant fool I'd get fired from my job. Why isn't it the same with the Government and I mean all government. Like education. If the schools keep putting out morons then someone's head should roll.
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You would think that with all the innovations in crime detecting they would have someone in a matter of weeks.
Any body with some brain power would realize that something stinks.

Well said. Yeah they nailed Osama in the matter of hours for doing 9/11 but yet never found him even though they have satelittes covering the planet that can read the writing off a dime.

All I have do do is think about myself and know there is nothing I can do that they couldn't trace in minutes.

The billion dollars in proposed U.S. aid, Mexican newspapers pointed out, will only be used to target drug traffickers with no obvious ties to American intelligence.
They use our tax money to "fight the drug war" and all they are really doing is using it to get rid of their competition.

Let's see the government is fighting wars on terrorism and drugs and the problems always get worse. I don't suppose anyone holds them to any standards to get the job done. I mean if I was a complete incompentant fool I'd get fired from my job. Why isn't it the same with the Government and I mean all government. Like education. If the schools keep putting out morons then someone's head should roll.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 310211

With the internet, it is now SO OBVIOUS that the Zionist Jews are behind all these alphabet criminal organizations from the top 'leadership' positions.
(not to mention the entire gov't)
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The war on drugs is as fraudulent as the war of terror.
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Maybe the CIA should call their newest flights full of drugs SnakeAirlines.

This guy is so obvious a shill I don't think he cares who knows. That's weird! That's stupid!
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Mensa, Arkansas.
Clinton.
See, it's a word association game.
Hillary.
Get it?
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NTSB - Aviation Accident Database Query
[link to www.ntsb.gov]

Gulfstream II, N987SA

No record found.
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snake eyes - you really want to think twice before accusing daniel hopsicker of making 'idiotic assumptions'

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