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| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
 Australia
10/22/2007 9:57 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
In a natural disaster, it will take at least 3 days for rescue personnel to be called, packed, and travel distance to the area. You will need to be prepared for that amount of time.. minimum. It may even take longer for rescue. Some places in Mississippi in Katrina... it was weeks.
Without any preparation for a PlanetX scenario... you should have at least the minimum of a month per each. It would be wise to have extra.
If you are preparing as you should, and have ANY inkling that a diaster, such as Planet X could occur... should you not prepare accordingly? It is up to you. But the Bird Flu would be the clear and present danger.
I hope this answers your question. Quoting: NightWisp
Having supplies for a disaster depends on your location and the nature of the disaster, that being said having 30 days of food and water on hand is best considered minimum, however for one person thats 60 litres or 20 gallons of water, not practical for your car, so aim for 5 days in your car and 30 days at home, minimum.
Now as for Planet X, according to Nancy's version 90% of EVERYTHING dies, looking at the mechanics of flipping the earth and completely rearranging the earth's surface I would suggest 98% is a closer figure, that includes, plants, insects, animals, birds and humans.
If you want to prepare for Planet X type doom I would suggest you do nothing, panic sex for some or just kiss your arse goodbye. |
| The Lone Ranger 
Zeta Destroyer
User ID: 314292
 New Zealand
10/22/2007 10:14 PM
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Above is me ... I got logged out writing that.
Very inspiring and profound words my words friend! NO QUESTION where your orientation lies. STO through and THROUGH!
Oh boy!!
:you_a_loon:
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread!! |
| The Lone Ranger
Zeta Destroyer
User ID: 314292
New Zealand
10/22/2007 10:17 PM
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They constantly, and have been for 5 years at GLP , claiming "all is normal" ... move along. This is plain wrong, and very arrogant at the least.
Of course, "debunkers", in general, have NOT said that.
We have certainly said things like: "The Moon is in it's NORMAL orbit.", etc, but "all is normal" is NOT the debunker story. It is just easy for you to PRETEND it is, so you can use it as a strawman-- easy to knock down.
Nancy makes claims. If they are false, we say so and show why. You screech "PAID" and ignore the facts presented.
That's pretty much how it goes. Kinda like the way you just shrieked that "zetas" don't talk about poleshift dates. They did, and do, and I showed the relevent passages. You just continue your usual prattle and ignore the fact that I was right. Quoting: Menow 146659
Luserboy........ :Memo2u:
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 255583
 Canada
10/22/2007 10:47 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
They constantly, and have been for 5 years at GLP , claiming "all is normal" ... move along. This is plain wrong, and very arrogant at the least.
Of course, "debunkers", in general, have NOT said that.
We have certainly said things like: "The Moon is in it's NORMAL orbit.", etc, but "all is normal" is NOT the debunker story. It is just easy for you to PRETEND it is, so you can use it as a strawman-- easy to knock down.
Nancy makes claims. If they are false, we say so and show why. You screech "PAID" and ignore the facts presented.
That's pretty much how it goes. Kinda like the way you just shrieked that "zetas" don't talk about poleshift dates. They did, and do, and I showed the relevent passages. You just continue your usual prattle and ignore the fact that I was right. Quoting: Menow 146659
Right. I never said everything is normal. Big changes are happening, but they have nothing to do with Nancy and her imaginary zetas and planet x. The moon is where it should be, so is the sun, and obviously, the earth is not halted in orbit. As usual, it is all or nothing for these sheep. If you don't blindly believe Nancy, you are in denial and paid to debunk. What a crock of shit.
For your information, I have been prepared to survive 4 months on my own since the early 80s. And that doesn't mean stock piling and saving seeds. In a real disaster, especially one of the magnitude proposed by Nancy, stock piling and seeds are useless. Have you ever wondered what would happen if you were caught away from home when a disaster occurs? What good is all that food and supplies? Unless you can carry that all with you wherever you go, there is a good chance you will just be spending money you don't need to spend, unless you plan on staying in your bunker your whole life in case something happens.
I have integrated knowledge into my life style and it comes naturally to me now. My life has been simplified, my needs are very few, and I am not afraid of fending for myself. I have organized disaster prevention and community organization during times of crisis. I don't just come on the net and spew shit. I actually DO things. Not that I expect imminent doom, but I have lived in some places that are very disaster prone, and after a particularly scary one that I lived through, I realized that in such situations we are on our own. Humans really need a lot less than we think to survive. Mostly, we need to keep our wits about us.
I am not the scientific type, I have studied anthropology, mysticism and metaphysics for most of my life and I am a healer. I know with my brain that Nancy is full of shit. My academic education tells me so. On a spiritual level, I can see the negativity generated by Nancy and the way it hooks onto others and affects their energy. She is like a detour in the road, she takes people off their path and leads them into dark forests where some will be lost or eaten by wolves.
So if it smells like shit, looks like shit and all tests suggest it is shit, then I am comfortable concluding zeta talk is indeed bullshit. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 303421
 United States
10/23/2007 3:56 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
""In 2002, I asked Don Croft to give me his opinion about Zeta Talk and the prediction of the impending passage of Planet X in 2003. Don said that "cbswork", an ex-Illuminati trained psychic (more properly called an Illuminati 'oracle') said that Zeta Talk was a NASA/CIA disinformation operation. He indicated that Nancy, the lady who uploads the info at Zeta Talk was under mind control.
Personally, I always felt that Nancy was (and is) an honest and sincere person. She very much believes, I assume, that the information she is posting at Zeta Talk is true and accurate (and most of it is, as I've already stated, with the glaring exception of the non arrival of Nibiru in 2003-not a small matter). If she is under mind control, then she is unaware of it; as people who are put under mind control have no conscious way of knowing they are victims of mind control. Nancy's story is probably far more complicated than any of us know. I won't judge or condemn her. I always found her to be sincere and motivated to help humanity. "" |
| ***ZetaMax***
Getting The Truth Out
User ID: 266466
United States
10/23/2007 6:37 AM
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In a natural disaster, it will take at least 3 days for rescue personnel to be called, packed, and travel distance to the area. You will need to be prepared for that amount of time.. minimum. It may even take longer for rescue. Some places in Mississippi in Katrina... it was weeks.
Without any preparation for a PlanetX scenario... you should have at least the minimum of a month per each. It would be wise to have extra.
If you are preparing as you should, and have ANY inkling that a diaster, such as Planet X could occur... should you not prepare accordingly? It is up to you. But the Bird Flu would be the clear and present danger.
I hope this answers your question.
Having supplies for a disaster depends on your location and the nature of the disaster, that being said having 30 days of food and water on hand is best considered minimum, however for one person thats 60 litres or 20 gallons of water, not practical for your car, so aim for 5 days in your car and 30 days at home, minimum.
Now as for Planet X, according to Nancy's version 90% of EVERYTHING dies, looking at the mechanics of flipping the earth and completely rearranging the earth's surface I would suggest 98% is a closer figure, that includes, plants, insects, animals, birds and humans.
If you want to prepare for Planet X type doom I would suggest you do nothing, panic sex for some or just kiss your arse goodbye. Quoting: Prof-Rabbit 148352
I would suggest 98% is a closer figure
This opinion is worth less than one of my daughter's full diapers.
If you want to prepare for Planet X type doom I would suggest you do nothing
This sentence contradicts itself. To "prepare" is to ACT, to do "nothing" is the OPPOSITE. This sentence cancels itself OUT - as does it's POSTER.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
ZetaMax |
| Boomerang
User ID: 299985
 United Kingdom
10/23/2007 7:17 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
""In 2002, I asked Don Croft to give me his opinion about Zeta Talk and the prediction of the impending passage of Planet X in 2003. Don said that "cbswork", an ex-Illuminati trained psychic (more properly called an Illuminati 'oracle') said that Zeta Talk was a NASA/CIA disinformation operation. He indicated that Nancy, the lady who uploads the info at Zeta Talk was under mind control.
Personally, I always felt that Nancy was (and is) an honest and sincere person. She very much believes, I assume, that the information she is posting at Zeta Talk is true and accurate (and most of it is, as I've already stated, with the glaring exception of the non arrival of Nibiru in 2003-not a small matter). If she is under mind control, then she is unaware of it; as people who are put under mind control have no conscious way of knowing they are victims of mind control. Nancy's story is probably far more complicated than any of us know. I won't judge or condemn her. I always found her to be sincere and motivated to help humanity. "" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 303421
Is Nancy under mind control by human forces rather than Zeta? Good point. How do the Nancy followers know this not to be the case and have you thought about this scenario?
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"Humans really need a lot less than we think to survive. Mostly, we need to keep our wits about us."
I second that, I know from personal experience how little food and water is actually required to survive. I would still want a few pills to put myself out of the misery though. Imagine.......well I truly believe one cannot imagine....... just what a state the planet would be in post catastrophes. |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
Australia
10/23/2007 7:52 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
I would suggest 98% is a closer figure
This opinion is worth less than one of my daughter's full diapers. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
I've got 4 kids and changed enough nappies, I'd much rather be the nappy than zeta-bull which is the contents of said nappy.. |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
Australia
10/23/2007 8:09 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
I second that, I know from personal experience how little food and water is actually required to survive. I would still want a few pills to put myself out of the misery though. Imagine.......well I truly believe one cannot imagine....... just what a state the planet would be in post catastrophes. Quoting: Boomerang
Remember Nancy claims Px will stop the earths rotation, completely rearrange all of the tectonic plates then restart the earth's rotation.
The earth is 7/10ths water, at the equator that water is moving at 1,100 MILES PER HOUR, SO YOU STOP THE EARTH SPINNING AND THE WATER WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE!
All of the water will move at the same time! straight across the ground surface, THEN Nancy says you flip the earth "upside down", now all that water will try to go "top to bottom", THEN you start the earth spinning again, there goes the water over all the continents for a THIRD TIME!
Not forgetting the ripping apart of the tectonic plates across the entire earth at the same time!
Plus the complete removal of the atmosphere!
Plus being pounded by meteors both large and small.
Now would you like to explain how you can survive trillions of tons of sea water at 1,100 mp/h ?
Breathing without an atmosphere? |
| Boomerang
User ID: 299985
United Kingdom
10/23/2007 8:30 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
"Now would you like to explain how you can survive trillions of tons of sea water at 1,100 mp/h ?"
Easy!Be off planet and far away.
Seriously, Nancys supporters should address these problems using logic and common sense. I dare say that there could be pockets of survivors, look at airline crashes Etc. some walk away unscathed while the guy sitting next to them is dead. Until, or if it ever happens, we just can't say for sure. I must say that Nancy makes claims that contradict my own observations with regard to the status quo of the universe.
Edit to add:
without arguments.......what do you all believe is the possible cause of the earth changes? Global warming? The cause? Man or other?
From the evidence that I have seen, I do NOT believe that man is the culprit completely, obviously there must be some impact from our activities, but not to account for what we are seeing. Is there truth in other planets warming? If there is, what is the cause? |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
Australia
10/23/2007 9:06 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
Edit to add:
without arguments.......what do you all believe is the possible cause of the earth changes? Global warming? The cause? Man or other?
From the evidence that I have seen, I do NOT believe that man is the culprit completely, obviously there must be some impact from our activities, but not to account for what we are seeing. Is there truth in other planets warming? If there is, what is the cause? Quoting: Boomerang
The one universal constant is change, how can we see changes in our planet but not consider that the other planets must change also? We know with reasonable certainty that Mars once had water, so there was change.
Humans have accelerated the changes we see on earth, the industrial revolution brought machinery, with this machinery humans have changed the balance, consider oil, by 1970 America had used half of all the easily recoverable oil on that continent and went from an exporter to an importer.
Somewhere between 2001 and 2005 50% of the WORLDS easily recoverable oil had been used up, now think of the trillions of tons of oil that went to power the internal combustion engine, where did the pollution go?
America currently has 6% of the worlds population but uses 25% of the worlds nett energy daily, factor in 6.5 billion people on the planet, why would people try and hide from the obvious?
The last is easy, how will we explain to our children why we polluted the planet so badly and left nothing for them? by ducking the issues and pointing the finger elsewhere.
The children of tomorrow must live in what we do today. |
| ***ZetaMax***
Getting The Truth Out
User ID: 19293
United States
10/23/2007 9:23 AM
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I second that, I know from personal experience how little food and water is actually required to survive. I would still want a few pills to put myself out of the misery though. Imagine.......well I truly believe one cannot imagine....... just what a state the planet would be in post catastrophes.
Remember Nancy claims Px will stop the earths rotation, completely rearrange all of the tectonic plates then restart the earth's rotation.
The earth is 7/10ths water, at the equator that water is moving at 1,100 MILES PER HOUR, SO YOU STOP THE EARTH SPINNING AND THE WATER WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE!
All of the water will move at the same time! straight across the ground surface, THEN Nancy says you flip the earth "upside down", now all that water will try to go "top to bottom", THEN you start the earth spinning again, there goes the water over all the continents for a THIRD TIME!
Not forgetting the ripping apart of the tectonic plates across the entire earth at the same time!
Plus the complete removal of the atmosphere!
Plus being pounded by meteors both large and small.
Now would you like to explain how you can survive trillions of tons of sea water at 1,100 mp/h ?
Breathing without an atmosphere? Quoting: Prof-Rabbit 148352
The Flunkster here explains why the die-off would indeed be 90% - but fails because he ignores the fact that this has happened before, and that there is eyewitness accounts handed down among indigenous peoples for thousands of years. There is indeed water movement, AND HUGE flood tides, but they DON'T travel at 1,100 mp/h.
Plus the complete removal of the atmosphere!
And this is just so wrong - nowhere has this been stated but here. Prof-Rabbit wins the award for being the most reckless and incompetent of the debunkers. Even Circuit Breaker and Menow are more careful and "objective" than this BUM. Lone Ranger is annoying - but he's not even trying to be opaque. Prof-Rabbit wins the bottom of the barrel prize.
See this link - which the Flunk-Bummy is AFRAID to discuss:
ZetaMax - Book Report: "Red Earth, White Lies - Native Americans and the Myth of Scientific Fact"
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
ZetaMax |
| ***ZetaMax***
Getting The Truth Out
User ID: 19293
United States
10/23/2007 9:27 AM
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I would suggest 98% is a closer figure
This opinion is worth less than one of my daughter's full diapers.
I've got 4 kids and changed enough nappies, I'd much rather be the nappy than zeta-bull which is the contents of said nappy.. Quoting: Prof-Rabbit 148352
Four kids huh? Shilling pays well Down Under, I see.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
ZetaMax |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
Australia
10/23/2007 10:08 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
I second that, I know from personal experience how little food and water is actually required to survive. I would still want a few pills to put myself out of the misery though. Imagine.......well I truly believe one cannot imagine....... just what a state the planet would be in post catastrophes.
Remember Nancy claims Px will stop the earths rotation, completely rearrange all of the tectonic plates then restart the earth's rotation.
The earth is 7/10ths water, at the equator that water is moving at 1,100 MILES PER HOUR, SO YOU STOP THE EARTH SPINNING AND THE WATER WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE!
All of the water will move at the same time! straight across the ground surface, THEN Nancy says you flip the earth "upside down", now all that water will try to go "top to bottom", THEN you start the earth spinning again, there goes the water over all the continents for a THIRD TIME!
Not forgetting the ripping apart of the tectonic plates across the entire earth at the same time!
Plus the complete removal of the atmosphere!
Plus being pounded by meteors both large and small.
Now would you like to explain how you can survive trillions of tons of sea water at 1,100 mp/h ?
Breathing without an atmosphere?
The Flunkster here explains why the die-off would indeed be 90% - but fails because he ignores the fact that this has happened before, and that there is eyewitness accounts handed down among indigenous peoples for thousands of years. There is indeed water movement, AND HUGE flood tides, but they DON'T travel at 1,100 mp/h.
Plus the complete removal of the atmosphere!
And this is just so wrong - nowhere has this been stated but here. Prof-Rabbit wins the award for being the most reckless and incompetent of the debunkers. Even Circuit Breaker and Menow are more careful and "objective" than this BUM. Lone Ranger is annoying - but he's not even trying to be opaque. Prof-Rabbit wins the bottom of the barrel prize.
See this link - which the Flunk-Bummy is AFRAID to discuss:
[link to tproxy.guardster.com]
If the link doesn't work search for this thread:
ZetaMax - Book Report: "Red Earth, White Lies - Native Americans and the Myth of Scientific Fact"
Who gives a rats bum about Indians with a flood story! So you saved up and bought another book, should we be impressed with your library of two books? what has that to do with simple logic and common sense?
Put some water in a jar and swish it round, now stop moving the jar, what happens to the water? keeps going round? congratulations you now understand a common basic feature of fluids! |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
Australia
10/23/2007 10:15 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
Four kids huh? Shilling pays well Down Under, I see. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
Hey shit for brains! I also have a totally blind wife, if I'm keeping you amused and your getting the attention you crave then send me some money so I can fix my car. So you say you have a baby, you must have frightened the baker since you can't get pregnant with a vibrator, no one with half a brain would bend you over a chair, let along take a load off. |
| Boomerang
User ID: 299985
United Kingdom
10/23/2007 10:16 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
I disagree about the MAIN cause of global warming but that's a whole can 'o worms in itself. I will hopefully get the opportunity to share the reasons why I disagree at a later date.
For now, I have to say that I would agree that a sudden halting of planet earth would lead to the 'slosh' effect. What would prevent the momentum of the water from moving along merrily as before? We are rotating at over 1000 MPH. Im sure we can all agree about that? Or have the Zetas slowed earth gradually over time? |
| User # 78/68
User ID: 304244
Canada
10/23/2007 10:24 AM
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"Now as for Planet X, according to Nancy's version 90% of EVERYTHING dies, looking at the mechanics of flipping the earth and completely rearranging the earth's surface I would suggest 98% is a closer figure, that includes, plants, insects, animals, birds and humans.
If you want to prepare for Planet X type doom I would suggest you do nothing, panic sex for some or just kiss your arse goodbye."
This guy would suggest???
He's already bastardized everything he has written about and he wants people to believe his numbers???
I don't think so!
Prof-Rabid flunked out of College AND University, yet he claims understanding of such complex things as the dynamics of ALL of the Earth changes and things deep inside other people's minds (he alludes to the fact he has some kind of psychology degree).
This guy is a liar ... through and through ... his poor children!!! |
| User # 78/68
User ID: 304244
Canada
10/23/2007 10:28 AM
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"Hey shit for brains! I also have a totally blind wife, if I'm keeping you amused and your getting the attention you crave then send me some money so I can fix my car. So you say you have a baby, you must have frightened the baker since you can't get pregnant with a vibrator, no one with half a brain would bend you over a chair, let along take a load off."
Shilling is getting to this guy ... just like it did to the other GLP shill who came "out" last week. He certainly does act like a scared kid, doesn't he? |
| Menow
User ID: 182583
United States
10/23/2007 11:57 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
The Flunkster here explains why the die-off would indeed be 90% - but fails because he ignores the fact that this has happened before, and that there is eyewitness accounts handed down among indigenous peoples for thousands of years. Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
Sez who? Nancy's "evidence" of past poleshifts is just as contrived and trumped-up as are her astronomical claims. The references are more obscure, so they are harder to disprove, but they are bullshit, none the less. She takes a story or myth and modifies it to fit her purposes. All it takes to see this is for us to bypass our disbelief that a little old lady would lie, shamelessly.
When you face the fact that "zetas" are lying in astronomical claims, you will have come long way toward acquiring any level of credibility in this discussion. As it is, you have NO semblence of balance in your assertions. |
| NightWisp
User ID: 313622
United States
10/23/2007 12:07 PM
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Four kids huh? Shilling pays well Down Under, I see.
Hey shit for brains! I also have a totally blind wife, if I'm keeping you amused and your getting the attention you crave then send me some money so I can fix my car. So you say you have a baby, you must have frightened the baker since you can't get pregnant with a vibrator, no one with half a brain would bend you over a chair, let along take a load off. Quoting: Prof-Rabbit 148352
*************
Prof. I am sorry that your wife is blind. One day.. maybe they will find a way to help her.
((hugs))
Wispy |
| Menow
User ID: 182583
United States
10/23/2007 12:08 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
This guy would suggest??? Quoting: User # 78/68
You are one nasty, pathetic, excuse for a Human Being. |
| NightWisp
User ID: 313622
United States
10/23/2007 12:35 PM
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This is What ST says...
Greetings: sasha: User ID: 315702
Hi st in bg, i see nancy lieder finally came out and talked
about the bush clones, who she said are actually brothers, I believe we only know about 2 of the 14 she mentioned, i think are jeb bush and george bush
junior.
**Hmmm !!
Now i don't understand how they actually grew these clones,
**Such Containers Created/Grown ... Of Which They Have "Limited Knowledge" Would Be "Replicants" ... Not Clones !! ... As "Replicants" Describes Processes Which Are Only Taken So Far ... Whereas "Cloning" ... Is Of More
Advanced Stages/States !!
were all 14 boys born of barbera and kept secret, or were they actually grown in laboratories and how long would they take to create?
**Those Who Were Replicants ... Were Of Cell Samplings Of The Original Matrix ... Grown In/Under Laboratory Conditions !! ... As To Growth Time ... This Would Vary !!
Isn't their hospital records or any evidences that these being's are here on earth,
**Since They Were Not "Born" In A Hospital ... There Would Be No Records !! ... There Are However ... "Other Evidences" !!
do these replica's just live in hiding kind of lifestyles, never go out, and basically kind of like we use in terrestrial terms under house arrest?
**No ... They ... "Interchange" As It Were !!
Another question, is Wisconsin going to experience many sink wholes due to the ripping of the north american continent?
**The Whole Of The Surface Of Terra/Earth ... Will Be Rearranged & Reconfigured !! ... As To Sinkholes Due To ... Ripping & Tearing ... This Would Be Consistent ... With The Rearrangement ... Amongst Other Phenomena
Observed Of The Landmasses !!
Is the continent currently being tugged at a diagonal pull like nancy says it is, from the presence of planet x?
**The "Effect" Is Being Felt !! ... And The Greater It Will Be ... The Closer The Approach !! ... There Are Those Who Are Doing Their Best ... To Hold Things Together On The Planet ... Until The Actual "Main Changes" Take
Effect !! ... Though It Is A Daunting Task ... As Their Neighbors On Terra/Earth ... Do Not Give Much In Cooperation !!!
Nancy claims to have had out of body experiences and
met with the puppet master and learned of the bush clones 2 years ago and she claims the reason that she is talking about it now is because their could be another possible switch between the current replica george bush junior in the white house, is this true?
**No !! ... This Was That Which Was Created ... After The Fact !!
Nancy claims to have flown in flying saucers, met little grey aliens and is in contact telepathically, is this true,
**It Was Possible Earlier On ... However Any Connections Were Severed !!
because i believe earlier in this thread you said nancy was from the cia spreading disinfo along with correct info as to confuse people to think this old lady is crazy in her claims to have someone to blame for where this crazy info is coming from?
**What Has Been Represented As Coming From ... The "Zetas" ... Is Of A Governmental Program !! ... This Was Originally Set Up ... To Gain Informations/Reactions, Ect. ... On The Possibility Of ... What Would Happen If Something(s) Of A World Threatening Nature(s) ... Would Become Known !! ... To Gage Public Reactions To Such An Event(s) ... And To Determine What Steps Would Need To Be Taken ... To Insure That Mass Panic, Death & Destructions ... Would Not Take Place ... Before The Actual Event(s) Transpired !!
**The Program Was Constructed ... There Was The Need To Have ... A "Figurehead" ... Someone Who Could Be Looked Upon As Well ... "Someone's Grandmother" ... Someone Who Could Be Trusted ... Along With Dismissed ... If There Was The Need !! ... So The Person Was Selected ... & The Job
Position Filled !!
**Enter The Threat Of A True Impeding Disaster To Terra/Earth ... The Approach Of Nibiru !! ... The Program Is Already Set Up & In Place !! ... The Spokesperson Is There ... So Why Not Use This Same Program ... To "Get
The Word Out" ... About What Is To Occur ... What Is To Happen !! ... Do To Newly Changed/Established Rules ... It Has To Be Done In The Form Of Distortion ... To Prevent The Very Things Which Are Feared ... The World Wide Panic, Death, Destruction !! ... Presenting This Information
... In A Believable/Non-Believable Way ... As Information Coming From Extraterrestrial Beings !! ... As Those Termed "Zetas" Are Very Popular ... As To Recognition ... These Were The Ones Chosen ... Rather Then ... Plejarans, Dinoids, Draconians, Sirians, Silurians, Ect. ... Do To
Non-Recognitions & Greater Misunderstandings Of Their Natures/Beings !!
**Understand That Yes ... There Is What May Be Termed: "Deception" Happening ... Do To The Nature Of The Impeding Threat !! ... And Most Everything That Is Happening On Terra/Earth Of Your "Current Linear
Expression" ... Has It's Roots Of ... The Knowing ... Of What Is To Come !! ... With Very Few Exceptions ... All Government Heads On Terra/Earth ... Know Of Nibiru ... And What Is At Stake !! ... So They Are Playing Their
Roles & Their Parts !! ... Of This ... The Public Is To Be Kept Distracted At All Costs ... With ... Business As Usual !!
**Of Their Spokesperson Being Crazy ... No !! ... There Is Purposeful Intent !! ... It Is To Disseminate Information In Such A Way ... As To Not Alarm The Public !! ... So Of The Thought ... Better That This Individual Is Looked Upon As Being Mad ... Then Chaos Happening Throughout Your Planet !! ... This Is Using Believability/Non-Believability ... To One's Advantage !!!
**The Main Sources Of Informations That They Have ... Are Governmental ... And Of Terrestrial Natures ... Versus ... Extraterrestrial Ones !! ... Along With That Which We Have Shared Here ... & In Other Locations ... & By
Other Means !!
I's that the message the cia wants out, cause they know it's actually out their, but wanted to use 2003 as a date as to make a fool out of nancy?
**We Shall Say "Government" ... As We May Have Stated This One "Organization Branch" Previously ... We Meant This Only As A "Placeholder" To State/Say ... "Government(s)" ... As There Are Many Branches ... Just Of That Of The United States So Involved ... Along With Those Throughout The Planet ... On Which You Reside !!
**The Linear Date Of 2003 ... Was An Incorrect Gusstimate !! ... This Was A Terrestrial Gusstimate ... Of Which They Have Technology That Is Limited
... In Making Such Calculations !! ... Even We Have To Constantly Calculate & Recalculate Our Estimations ... Do To The Many Variables Involved ... Which Flux & Ebb !! ... So From One Moment To The Next ... Things Can Change
!!
**As The Linear Date Of 2003 Was Incorrect ... This Of Course Was A Big Letdown ... To Those Who Planned For This Certainty !! ... So Rather Then Admitting The Error ... And Blowing The Whole Program ... The Invention Of
"The White Lie" Was Created !! ... So As To ... "Patch The Hole In The Dike" To Speak ... And To Keep Those Who Followed The Program From Abandoning It !!
Those pictures of planet x floating around the internet, on youtube , on nancy's websight, on other websights,
are some of them real?
**Both "Real & Fake" Photographs ... Have Been Released To The Public !! ... This Is According To The Newly Established Rules ... That Informational Release Would Be Only ... If Such Informations Could Be Readily Dismissed
... As Being False !! ... Which May Include All Forms Of Attack ... Upon Materials & Persons ... To Make Them/It ... Look Ridiculous Of Natures & Not To Be Believed !!
Nancy claims to be highly service to other,
**This Is A 3rd Density Invention ... That Has Been Promoted !! ... Of Which Fractuates The Energies & Ideas ... Into 2 Camps ... Good/Bad ... Good/Evil ... Positive/Negative & So Forth !! ... Of 4th Density ... We
Consider The Whole Energies !! ... Things Are Not So ... Clearly Defined !! ... As It Has Been Said ... There Are "Many Shades Of Grey" ... And Each & Everything ... Needs To Be Weighed Accordingly ... All Things Need To Be
Considered ... Of The Actions & Interactions ... Before Judgment(s) Can Be Made !!
yet she can be grumpy here and their.
**Well ... You Are Dealing With The Terrestrial Form ... And Of Trying To Attempt ... To Keep The Program Running !! ... As This Is What The Person Was Recruited For ... And This Is Their "Job" !! ... So Anything In
Deference ... Any Further Clarity To ... Messages In A Distorted Manner ... Would Not Be In Alignment ... With That Which Is Being Promoted ... And It's Intent !!
Does nancy lieder speak with the nice and gentle aliens who are truthful , or the other kind who spread disinfo?
**Well We Only Know ... She Doesn't Speak To Us !! ... Nor For Us !! ... As To The Disinformation ... We Have Explained ... This Is Not Of Our Doing ... Rather It Is ... Of Terrestrial Natures !!
Thanks for reading ,
**You Are Most Welcome !!
hope to here from you soon,
**Yes Indeed !!
Josh.
Farewell For Now !!
ST In BG |
| Menow
User ID: 144427
United States
10/23/2007 1:41 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
This is What ST says...
Nancy claims to be highly service to other,
**This Is A 3rd Density Invention ... That Has Been Promoted !! ... Of Which Fractuates The Energies & Ideas ... Into 2 Camps ... Good/Bad ... Good/Evil ... Positive/Negative & So Forth !! ... Of 4th Density ... We
Consider The Whole Energies !! ... Things Are Not So ... Clearly Defined !! ... As It Has Been Said ... There Are "Many Shades Of Grey" ... And Each & Everything ... Needs To Be Weighed Accordingly ... All Things Need To Be
Considered ... Of The Actions & Interactions ... Before Judgment(s) Can Be Made !!
ST In BG Quoting: NightWisp
"**This Is A 3rd Density Invention ... That Has Been Promoted !!"
As I have said before, this pressured focussing on STO/STS is a spiritual trap. An intentional one. |
| ***ZetaMax***
Getting The Truth Out
User ID: 266466
United States
10/23/2007 10:56 PM
| | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
I second that, I know from personal experience how little food and water is actually required to survive. I would still want a few pills to put myself out of the misery though. Imagine.......well I truly believe one cannot imagine....... just what a state the planet would be in post catastrophes.
Remember Nancy claims Px will stop the earths rotation, completely rearrange all of the tectonic plates then restart the earth's rotation.
The earth is 7/10ths water, at the equator that water is moving at 1,100 MILES PER HOUR, SO YOU STOP THE EARTH SPINNING AND THE WATER WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE!
All of the water will move at the same time! straight across the ground surface, THEN Nancy says you flip the earth "upside down", now all that water will try to go "top to bottom", THEN you start the earth spinning again, there goes the water over all the continents for a THIRD TIME!
Not forgetting the ripping apart of the tectonic plates across the entire earth at the same time!
Plus the complete removal of the atmosphere!
Plus being pounded by meteors both large and small.
Now would you like to explain how you can survive trillions of tons of sea water at 1,100 mp/h ?
Breathing without an atmosphere?
The Flunkster here explains why the die-off would indeed be 90% - but fails because he ignores the fact that this has happened before, and that there is eyewitness accounts handed down among indigenous peoples for thousands of years. There is indeed water movement, AND HUGE flood tides, but they DON'T travel at 1,100 mp/h.
Plus the complete removal of the atmosphere!
And this is just so wrong - nowhere has this been stated but here. Prof-Rabbit wins the award for being the most reckless and incompetent of the debunkers. Even Circuit Breaker and Menow are more careful and "objective" than this BUM. Lone Ranger is annoying - but he's not even trying to be opaque. Prof-Rabbit wins the bottom of the barrel prize.
See this link - which the Flunk-Bummy is AFRAID to discuss:
ZetaMax - Book Report: "Red Earth, White Lies - Native Americans and the Myth of Scientific Fact" [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Who gives a rats bum about Indians with a flood story! So you saved up and bought another book, should we be impressed with your library of two books? what has that to do with simple logic and common sense?
Put some water in a jar and swish it round, now stop moving the jar, what happens to the water? keeps going round? congratulations you now understand a common basic feature of fluids!
DEAR READER,
I told you that Prof-Rabbit would be afraid to discuss the compelling testimony of thousands of years of Native American tradition. His extremely RACIST and profoundly UGLY comments about these proud people shows the dark heart and selfish intents of this conscience-less debunker.
I bet he has the same contempt in his heart for the aboriginal peoples that share the same continent his ancestors invaded and conquered - mercilessly.
How can anyone with true love for humanity - ALL HUMANITY - possibly find anything inviting about this "man's" words. He's as corrupt as they come.
Sincerely,
***ZetaMax***
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
ZetaMax |
| ***ZetaMax***
Getting The Truth Out
User ID: 266466
United States
10/23/2007 11:02 PM
| | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
The Flunkster here explains why the die-off would indeed be 90% - but fails because he ignores the fact that this has happened before, and that there is eyewitness accounts handed down among indigenous peoples for thousands of years.
Sez who? Nancy's "evidence" of past poleshifts is just as contrived and trumped-up as are her astronomical claims. The references are more obscure, so they are harder to disprove, but they are bullshit, none the less. She takes a story or myth and modifies it to fit her purposes. All it takes to see this is for us to bypass our disbelief that a little old lady would lie, shamelessly.
When you face the fact that "zetas" are lying in astronomical claims, you will have come long way toward acquiring any level of credibility in this discussion. As it is, you have NO semblence of balance in your assertions. Quoting: Menow 182583
I've noticed you've avoided these Native American reports as well. What's the matter Menow, AFRAID????
ZetaMax - Book Report: "Red Earth, White Lies - Native Americans and the Myth of Scientific Fact"
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
ZetaMax |
| Menow
User ID: 146757
United States
10/23/2007 11:03 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
DEAR READER, Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
What a sleazy bastard. You're a pure waste of skin, lawyer. |
| Menow
User ID: 146757
United States
10/23/2007 11:05 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
I've noticed you've avoided these Native American reports as well. What's the matter Menow, AFRAID???? Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
Unlike you bunkers, I don't expound in areas where I have no expertise. |
| ***ZetaMax***
Getting The Truth Out
User ID: 266466
United States
10/23/2007 11:14 PM
| | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
This is What ST says...
Nancy claims to be highly service to other,
**This Is A 3rd Density Invention ... That Has Been Promoted !! ... Of Which Fractuates The Energies & Ideas ... Into 2 Camps ... Good/Bad ... Good/Evil ... Positive/Negative & So Forth !! ... Of 4th Density ... We
Consider The Whole Energies !! ... Things Are Not So ... Clearly Defined !! ... As It Has Been Said ... There Are "Many Shades Of Grey" ... And Each & Everything ... Needs To Be Weighed Accordingly ... All Things Need To Be
Considered ... Of The Actions & Interactions ... Before Judgment(s) Can Be Made !!
ST In BG
"**This Is A 3rd Density Invention ... That Has Been Promoted !!"
As I have said before, this pressured focussing on STO/STS is a spiritual trap. An intentional one. Quoting: Menow 144427
This paradigm is NOT black and white - sandwiched between the extremes are the UNDECIDED which make up the majority of souls here on earth.
Read my signature and contemplate it why don't you!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
ZetaMax |
| ***ZetaMax***
Getting The Truth Out
User ID: 266466
United States
10/23/2007 11:16 PM
| | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
I've noticed you've avoided these Native American reports as well. What's the matter Menow, AFRAID????
Unlike you bunkers, I don't expound in areas where I have no expertise. Quoting: Menow 146757
Indeed, the FEAR is *STRONG* with this one!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
ZetaMax |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 255583
Canada
10/24/2007 12:14 AM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20 | Quote |
STFU Maxipad. I have very close ties with natives. They have oral history and tradition, and I believe they are much more than legends. What I have a problem with is when white guys with no grasp of the cultural context and imagery of native beliefs twist those stories to try to prove their own claims and beliefs. Don't get me started! People like Whitley Strieber and Graham Hancock make me sick. They take gems of knowledge and totally bury them, interpreting the knowledge these stories and traditions contain in order to further their own stupid claims. So much real knowledge is lost in the process, and stupid marketing schemes take over. You apparently read a few books and are twisting things to support Nancy. Give it a rest. |
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