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17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 258519
10/26/2007 11:32 AM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

I say wow on the embedded photo and omg 3x
Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
10/26/2007 11:32 AM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

How to find the comet.

[link to www.tulsaworld.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 270444
10/26/2007 11:36 AM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Some people here say that this comet won't hit Earth.
The Earth is to small and the comet is even smaller.
The odds are so high thatr it's not woth mentioning, they say.
So, no impact this time.

Some of these same people agree that this comet got hit with something, like an meteor.
Think about that.

They say the odds are to high to even worry with them(comet hitting Earth), but they say the comet got hit by something even smaller than the comet and that collision caused the brightening of the comet.

OK...
FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 11:37 AM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

I say wow on the embedded photo and omg 3x
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 258519

Tempel was much nearer to the earth when NASA hit it, I would not worry, it's even farer away from earth than the sun ...
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 11:42 AM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Some people here say that this comet won't hit Earth.
The Earth is to small and the comet is even smaller.
The odds are so high thatr it's not woth mentioning, they say.
So, no impact this time.

Some of these same people agree that this comet got hit with something, like an meteor.
Think about that.

They say the odds are to high to even worry with them(comet hitting Earth), but they say the comet got hit by something even smaller than the comet and that collision caused the brightening of the comet.

OK...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 270444


Some? I'd say some say it will hit because GLP is the ONLY place where people think it will hit based on nothing.

And comets have brightened in the past, just not as much.

Seriously why are people trying to find a reason to tell everyone they're going to die? There are plent of independent observers and observatories out there and not one acts like GLP...

...get over it.
FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 11:46 AM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

199381 can't you figure Holmes is extraordinary to the extreme but this must not mean it's dangerous?
You have a strange manner to downplay the significance only cause it makes you afraid obviously ...
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 11:50 AM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

199381 can't you figure Holmes is extraordinary to the extreme but this must not mean it's dangerous?
You have a strange manner to downplay the significance only cause it makes you afraid obviously ...
 Quoting: FreeFlow


First off, I'm confused since you yourself believe its not going to hit.

And what I'm emphasising is the need for none of this doomsaying. What you've got going is good. It is very interesting event and should be observed but whats better? What you've been doing or the thread being bombarded by irational armageddonists?
FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 11:57 AM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Maybe the PTB would love to do another tho this time immense false flag and blame it on the comet, lol.
Would give them the excuse for martial law through another door ...

So some of the aramaggedonists as you call them are here to shove that false threat inti our minds.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 12:01 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Those I complain about aren't a threat in the sense people will ignore what is happening but in the sense that people won't look at the science you've presented fully.

It is an interesting topic such as why is it bright, has anyone seen it.

I know doomsayers are expected here at GLP but still... argh...
FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 12:04 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Yes I can understand you ..
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 158854
10/26/2007 12:05 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

I wonder if the other sites which have images will show the same glowing debris or dust effect like this one does:

:holmes:
 Quoting: FreeFlow



Sure, because google information is free flowing.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 12:06 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Yes I can understand you ..
 Quoting: FreeFlow


Well this has got to be the first time where the OP isn't the doomsayer lol!

Just amking sure.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 112249
10/26/2007 12:07 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

maybe it was not a comet at all
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317642
10/26/2007 12:10 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

spaceweather.com encourages amature astronomers to observe this comet, simply because they know it will soon return to normal comet status with tail and it will progressively dim, then they can say "we told you so" and then forget about it, and make all you woo woo's look really stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317655
some people, it just goes over their heads...most people aren't afraid the comet will hit earth, tho many are talking about it being an omen, and with good reason. not everybody understands omens and such, that's ok. you can go hang on the $$ threads... or the old wore out 911 threads.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317642
10/26/2007 12:13 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Plus I wish these people would kill themselves if they want the world to end so bad... save everyone else having to dbunk them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 199381
only half your ears and brain don't work, the end of the world only means the end of the stupid bushstyle world.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317642
10/26/2007 12:18 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

199381 can't you figure Holmes is extraordinary to the extreme but this must not mean it's dangerous?
You have a strange manner to downplay the significance only cause it makes you afraid obviously ...
 Quoting: FreeFlow
i was thinking the dbunkers sound fear based. they keep focusing in on the few who think it will impact, but impact doesn't seem to be what most people are actually thinking about the comet, it's more of a sign, accompanies the radical and dangerous things that have been happening in the world. they need to go hang out on the $$$threads, not where there is creative thinking.
FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 12:18 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

For all who couldn't see it yet, including me, ;(

Periodic Comet Holmes (17P) is currently located in east-central Perseus. Although this finder chart shows the northeastern horizon at dusk, the comet will be easier to spot late at night, when Perseus is more nearly overhead. Click on image for a larger view.
[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]


.... the end of the world only means the end of the stupid bushstyle world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317642


......... it's more of a sign, ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317642

Yep and yes!
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 12:22 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

ignificance only cause it makes you afraid obviously ...
i was thinking the dbunkers sound fear based. they keep focusing in on the few who think it will impact, but impact doesn't seem to be what most people are actually thinking about the comet, it's more of a sign, accompanies the radical and dangerous things that have been happening in the world. they need to go hang out on the $$$threads, not where there is creative thinking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317642


Oh I'm willing to talk and think creative on a lgical level in this case, but theres some crap to filter. And I know its actually the minority that thinks impact (and so far JUST on GLP) but I just have beef with them always, nothing to do with fear ALTHOUGH I can see where you're coming from with that notion.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317642
10/26/2007 12:22 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Those I complain about aren't a threat in the sense people will ignore what is happening but in the sense that people won't look at the science you've presented fully.

It is an interesting topic such as why is it bright, has anyone seen it.

I know doomsayers are expected here at GLP but still... argh...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 199381
it just ain't your thing. you have no knowledge of all the prophecies that concern certain comets. i would find it dull to hang out on a brain surgery thread, or the $$$threads, but i'm not going to try and debunk them, cause i dont know shit about the subjects. and besides, one mans doom is anothers rescue.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 12:25 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

it just ain't your thing. you have no knowledge of all the prophecies that concern certain comets. i would find it dull to hang out on a brain surgery thread, or the $$$threads, but i'm not going to try and debunk them, cause i dont know shit about the subjects. and besides, one mans doom is anothers rescue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317642


I do know about the subject which lets me do debunking.

And I'm probably going to get a smack for asking this but was does the $$$ mean?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 260371
10/26/2007 12:26 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

not allowed to post links to GLP-hating sites
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 12:27 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Even though I'm not religious I'm more inclined to hear out those who think the comet is an omen because its on a different level but the impact theory by itself is bad science which is on my level to debunk.

Omens, no problem.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 158884
10/26/2007 12:29 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Its pretty simple.


Holmes is already "passed" earth and was millions of miles away at its closet point.

"Any" threat at all would be from debris of the tail, which that too is millions of miles away and the earths orbit is also pulling earth further away.

The "only" thing that should be in discussion is the anomolous behavior.

Most of you people on this forum would rather panic sex and claim death is near instead of research into something.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 306227
10/26/2007 12:30 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

What must be the general volume of the mass that we can view for it to show up this large? This must be a MASSIVE ball of low density material, yet very bright.


it isn´t anything special really, unless you have the equipment to zoom in on it...

see,

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

just a speck, that was nothing before.

nothing like mcnaught.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 306227

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
about dbunkers
User ID: 317642
10/26/2007 12:32 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

the thing is, a place like glp attracts thousands of people from all over the world, with all kinds of ideas. to debunk, you really need to be an expert on the subject youre debunking. nobody knows everything. if people want to speculate on things, what harm is it to you? there are threads i think are absurd, i just dont go there, let them have their fun. if you think about it, the debunkers sound as illogical as the ones they are debunking. and if you find yourself so disturbed by a thread, why not get your hard facts in order and start a thread of your own?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 306227
10/26/2007 12:34 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

the thing is, a place like glp attracts thousands of people from all over the world, with all kinds of ideas. to debunk, you really need to be an expert on the subject youre debunking. nobody knows everything. if people want to speculate on things, what harm is it to you? there are threads i think are absurd, i just dont go there, let them have their fun. if you think about it, the debunkers sound as illogical as the ones they are debunking. and if you find yourself so disturbed by a thread, why not get your hard facts in order and start a thread of your own?
 Quoting: about dbunkers 317642


whoooo are you, woooowooooo woooowoooooo, i really want to know.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317642
10/26/2007 12:37 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Even though I'm not religious I'm more inclined to hear out those who think the comet is an omen because its on a different level but the impact theory by itself is bad science which is on my level to debunk.

Omens, no problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 199381
there ya go. people who have focused on the impact thing have not noticed the amount of omen talk on various threads about this comet. there are mystical people in the world and on this forum, it's natural, and it is good to be diverse from just $talk or 911 talk. that's what glp's about, out of the box thinking. if a person were to study on this omen angle, they might find theirselves curious to learn more. theres gonna be a % of illogical or woo woos, that's the world.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 12:38 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

I will admit my revious posts are rant like but thats just because I'm way past trying to use real research and arguments.

Point taken lol!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317642
10/26/2007 12:38 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

the thing is, a place like glp attracts thousands of people from all over the world, with all kinds of ideas. to debunk, you really need to be an expert on the subject youre debunking. nobody knows everything. if people want to speculate on things, what harm is it to you? there are threads i think are absurd, i just dont go there, let them have their fun. if you think about it, the debunkers sound as illogical as the ones they are debunking. and if you find yourself so disturbed by a thread, why not get your hard facts in order and start a thread of your own?


whoooo are you, woooowooooo woooowoooooo, i really want to know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 306227
why do you want to know? and if i told you my real name, would you know me then? what would you like to know?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317642
10/26/2007 12:39 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

I will admit my revious posts are rant like but thats just because I'm way past trying to use real research and arguments.

Point taken lol!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 199381
you be cool babe. i respect a person who can take a point.
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