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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 235208
10/26/2007 4:53 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
is it visible in the UK? |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 4:55 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Did you folks see this pic already? It looks really weird and no other image I know of showed a glowing debris cloud so far:
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 4:55 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Apparently outbursts have happened previously, of course this being the largest. It could just be that whatever causes these that this comet just had more inside to be let out? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 4:56 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Did you folks see this pic already? It looks really weird and no other image I know of showed a glowing debris cloud so far:
:holmes: Quoting: FreeFlow
Would that be its tail? Kind of going sideways. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 4:59 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Would that be its tail? Kind of going sideways. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 199381
Doesn't look like a normal tail, rather like stuff blown up by an explosion, of course that would be left behind during it's movement and eventually form something similar to a tail I suppose.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| GOAT
User ID: 316477
10/26/2007 5:01 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I paint pretty pictures |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 5:01 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Doesn't look like a normal tail, rather like stuff blown up by an explosion, of course that would be left behind during it's movement and eventually form something similar to a tail I suppose. Quoting: FreeFlow
If the comet is supposed to stay bright for a few weeks, after it has fade we still might get various dots of this dust left from its path of orbit.
But of course I doubt we'd see it like the comet now.
As for the UK? No idea honestly... nothing yet. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 5:04 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
.......
As for the UK? No idea honestly... nothing yet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 199381
Here's a sky map where to see it + another puzzled writer, lol:
[link to www.eaas.co.uk]
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 307406
10/26/2007 5:08 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Holy cow!!!
 
Could this thing reach Earth in less than a week if it suddenly is now heading for us? I'll be looking north in 2 hours. |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/26/2007 5:09 PM
 | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Dudes, the scientist in that yahoo article is a big lier.
He claims the comet has a coma, but no tail! BS!
As a comet nears the inner solar system, heat from the sun vaporizes some of the ice on the surface of the nucleus, spewing gas and dust particles into space. This gas and dust forms the comet's coma. Radiation from the sun pushes dust particles away from the coma. These particles form a tail called the dust tail.
[link to www.nasa.gov]
So where's a coma there's a tail.
We're not seeing the tail because the view from our vantage point is relatively on the same line with the comet and the tail is behind it. THIS THING IS COMING OUR WAY. Maybe there'll be no hit since the Earth moves, the comet moves and paths could diverge. But they're obviously hiding something.
This is just my opinion. No need to get inquisitorial on me anyone. thanx |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 5:09 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Holy cow!!!
Could this thing reach Earth in less than a week if it suddenly is now heading for us? I'll be looking north in 2 hours.
There has been no news what so ever of it getting brighter because its getting closer. And its impossible to cover up because of the many many independent observers so AGAIN no its not going to hit us. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 5:10 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Holy cow!!!
Could this thing reach Earth in less than a week if it suddenly is now heading for us? I'll be looking north in 2 hours.
Only if it had a super duper ultra propulsion system, it's currently about at the same distance from earth as the sun.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 5:11 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Dudes, the scientist in that yahoo article is a big lier.
He claims the comet has a coma, but no tail! BS!
As a comet nears the inner solar system, heat from the sun vaporizes some of the ice on the surface of the nucleus, spewing gas and dust particles into space. This gas and dust forms the comet's coma. Radiation from the sun pushes dust particles away from the coma. These particles form a tail called the dust tail.
[ link to www.nasa.gov]
So where's a coma there's a tail.
We're not seeing the tail because the view from our vantage point is relatively on the same line with the comet and the tail is behind it. THIS THING IS COMING OUR WAY. Maybe there'll be no hit since the Earth moves, the comet moves and paths could diverge. But they're obviously hiding something.
This is just my opinion. No need to get inquisitorial on me anyone. thanx
It won't hit because you can't silence to many other observers...
It might just be so bright that the light engulfs the tail. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 5:14 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
We don't see the tail for two reasons, first it's to far away from the sun to form a distinct one and second, the explosion is so much brighter that it outshines any tail if even there.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 5:18 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
We don't see the tail for two reasons, first it's to far away from the sun to form a distinct one and second, the explosion is so much brighter that it outshines any tail if even there. Quoting: FreeFlow
Thats what I thought and just said however it was already in the back of my mind, did you mention that theory previously? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317794
10/26/2007 5:18 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Why isn't Hubble releasing pictures of it? If it's so cool and such a normal comet, I would think they would show off pictures. The only pictures we are getting are amateur while scientist scratch their heads. Quoting: ricker
Good point that. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 5:22 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
We don't see the tail for two reasons, first it's to far away from the sun to form a distinct one and second, the explosion is so much brighter that it outshines any tail if even there.
Thats what I thought and just said however it was already in the back of my mind, did you mention that theory previously? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 199381
Not that I am aware of, I thought it's just common sense + adding up what I know of comets ...
I mean if the tail was barely visible before and now Holmes has brightened by a factor of a million then we can't expect to see one anyway, lol.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Jinx
User ID: 317705
10/26/2007 5:28 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
So what is the consensus... is it going to hit us, or not... and if so, when? |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/26/2007 5:30 PM
| | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
We don't see the tail for two reasons, first it's to far away from the sun to form a distinct one and second, the explosion is so much brighter that it outshines any tail if even there. Quoting: FreeFlow
I disagree with your second point.
Radiation from the sun pushes dust particles away from the coma. These particles form a tail called the dust tail.
[link to www.nasa.gov]
As bright as the nucleus+coma would be, the gas and dust trailing behind would be visible. UNLESS the nucleus+come lies between our viewpoint and the trail. In that case the tail and the nucleus+come would look like a round planet like object with the atmosphere formed by the tail stretching back and the coma and the "core" by the even brighter nucleus. Exactly what we're seeing. |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/26/2007 5:30 PM
| | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
We don't see the tail for two reasons, first it's to far away from the sun to form a distinct one and second, the explosion is so much brighter that it outshines any tail if even there. Quoting: FreeFlow
I disagree with your second point.
Radiation from the sun pushes dust particles away from the coma. These particles form a tail called the dust tail.
[link to www.nasa.gov]
As bright as the nucleus+coma would be, the gas and dust trailing behind would be visible. UNLESS the nucleus+come lie between our viewpoint and the tail. In that case the tail and the nucleus+come would look like a round planet like object with the atmosphere formed by the tail stretching back and the coma. While the "core" being formed by the even brighter nucleus. Exactly what we're seeing. |
| ricker
User ID: 316964
10/26/2007 5:30 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
So what is the consensus... is it going to hit us, or not... and if so, when? Quoting: Jinx 317705
I doubt it. The question is was it man made? I vote man made |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/26/2007 5:30 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
So what is the consensus... is it going to hit us, or not... and if so, when? Quoting: Jinx 317705
Not going to hit and even the off beat users think its just an omen. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 301459
10/26/2007 5:38 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
somebody probably already said this, but just to be sure ...
ZETAS RIGHT AGAIN!
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| Teliao
User ID: 130291
10/26/2007 5:42 PM
 | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Dudes, the scientist in that yahoo article is a big lier.
He claims the comet has a coma, but no tail! BS!
As a comet nears the inner solar system, heat from the sun vaporizes some of the ice on the surface of the nucleus, spewing gas and dust particles into space. This gas and dust forms the comet's coma. Radiation from the sun pushes dust particles away from the coma. These particles form a tail called the dust tail.
[ link to www.nasa.gov]
So where's a coma there's a tail.
We're not seeing the tail because the view from our vantage point is relatively on the same line with the comet and the tail is behind it. THIS THING IS COMING OUR WAY. Maybe there'll be no hit since the Earth moves, the comet moves and paths could diverge. But they're obviously hiding something.
This is just my opinion. No need to get inquisitorial on me anyone. thanx
Perhaps the "coma" was causes by something else? I've read repeatedly that comets produce tails as they come inside Jupiter's orbit due to discharged electric potential accumulated away from the sun, as this comet stays inside said orbit, I would not expect much of one. Anyone know if it has exhibited a tail in he past?
Plus, we are between the sun and Holmes so an ion tail would not be visible curently...
"There is no separation, only miss-communication" |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/26/2007 5:42 PM
| | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
The gaseous cloud surrounding the comet's core has more than doubled in radius during the past 24 hours.
What is happening to this comet? It remains a mystery.
If expansion of the spherical cloud continues, Holmes could soon become a naked eye disk rather than a dimensionless point of light. Stay tuned!
[link to spaceweather.com] |
| ricker
User ID: 316964
10/26/2007 5:46 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
The gaseous cloud surrounding the comet's core has more than doubled in radius during the past 24 hours.
What is happening to this comet? It remains a mystery.
If expansion of the spherical cloud continues, Holmes could soon become a naked eye disk rather than a dimensionless point of light. Stay tuned!
[ link to spaceweather.com]
Gulp!! Keep telling yourselves that's a comet. Whatever it is, I like it. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 310532
10/26/2007 5:49 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Hey! That's no comet! |
| Teliao
User ID: 130291
10/26/2007 5:50 PM
| | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
The gaseous cloud surrounding the comet's core has more than doubled in radius during the past 24 hours.
What is happening to this comet? It remains a mystery.
If expansion of the spherical cloud continues, Holmes could soon become a naked eye disk rather than a dimensionless point of light. Stay tuned!
[ link to spaceweather.com]
Gulp!! Keep telling yourselves that's a comet. Whatever it is, I like it.
Whatever it is, it's been "around" for a while. Just sleeping I suppose... *grin*
"There is no separation, only miss-communication" |
| pin-a-traitor
User ID: 317823
10/26/2007 5:51 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317719
10/26/2007 5:59 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
The thing about this "comet" that blows my mind is just how perfectly round it is. |
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