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17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'

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Teliao
User ID: 130291
10/26/2007 6:02 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

The thing about this "comet" that blows my mind is just how perfectly round it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317719

If you'd been flipping through space for untold millions of years bumping into dust and the like, you'd be pretty damn round too!

.....roundness of the nucleus or the coma?
"We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of the dream."

"People often tell me motivation doesn't last. I tell them bathing doesn't either. That's why I recommend it daily!"-Zig Zigler

We are here on Earth to do good to others. What the others are here for, I don't know.- W. H. Auden

"If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, 'thank you,' that would suffice."--Meister Eckhart
89446
User ID: 252155
10/26/2007 6:03 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Gulp!! Keep telling yourselves that's a comet. Whatever it is, I like it.
 Quoting: ricker


Yup, one could say it's too perfectly round to be a comet:

[link to spaceweather.com]

That "outburst", "explosion", gasseous emission is quite symetrical.
89446
User ID: 252155
10/26/2007 6:10 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

OK, let's call it the King of Terror and get it over with. It looks.... E-VIL. LOL
Teliao
User ID: 130291
10/26/2007 6:12 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Gulp!! Keep telling yourselves that's a comet. Whatever it is, I like it.


Yup, one could say it's too perfectly round to be a comet:

[link to spaceweather.com]

That "outburst", "explosion", gasseous emission is quite symetrical.
 Quoting: 89446

Seems more indicative of a mass charge event than am impact or random "ice vein" exposure unless it was a catastrophic failure across a several km distance which then begs the question what the hell could have caused that?

Don't tell me, the Zetas shot it in the ass! Ha!
"We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of the dream."

"People often tell me motivation doesn't last. I tell them bathing doesn't either. That's why I recommend it daily!"-Zig Zigler

We are here on Earth to do good to others. What the others are here for, I don't know.- W. H. Auden

"If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, 'thank you,' that would suffice."--Meister Eckhart
Teliao
User ID: 130291
10/26/2007 6:16 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

OK, let's call it the King of Terror and get it over with. It looks.... E-VIL. LOL
 Quoting: 89446

Damn-it Jim! I'm an astronomer not a prophet!
"We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of the dream."

"People often tell me motivation doesn't last. I tell them bathing doesn't either. That's why I recommend it daily!"-Zig Zigler

We are here on Earth to do good to others. What the others are here for, I don't know.- W. H. Auden

"If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, 'thank you,' that would suffice."--Meister Eckhart
89446
User ID: 252155
10/26/2007 6:23 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Seems more indicative of a mass charge event than am impact or random "ice vein" exposure unless it was a catastrophic failure across a several km distance which then begs the question what the hell could have caused that?

Don't tell me, the Zetas shot it in the ass! Ha!
 Quoting: Teliao


Well I finally got an orbit diagram. This comet is allegedly beyond Mars! But Jupiter is on the opposite side from it, so there's no way it could be the cause of this.

To have such a big and bright "atmosphere"/"coma" that far away... and growing! Well, WTF is an understatement. That coma must be hundreds of millions of miles in diameter.
FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 6:26 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

I only wonder why this pic looks quite different from those perfect round halo pics on spaceweather:



holmes
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
Teliao
User ID: 130291
10/26/2007 6:28 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

To have such a big and bright "atmosphere"/"coma" that far away... and growing! Well, WTF is an understatement. That coma must be hundreds of millions of miles in diameter.
 Quoting: 89446

Perhaps it developed it's own personal solar wind?
"We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of the dream."

"People often tell me motivation doesn't last. I tell them bathing doesn't either. That's why I recommend it daily!"-Zig Zigler

We are here on Earth to do good to others. What the others are here for, I don't know.- W. H. Auden

"If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, 'thank you,' that would suffice."--Meister Eckhart
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316477
10/26/2007 6:28 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

It's obviously rotating which is giving it a symetrical appearance.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316477
10/26/2007 6:30 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

I only wonder why this pic looks quite different from those perfect round halo pics on spaceweather:



:holmes:
 Quoting: FreeFlow


That picture looks like it was taken through light cloud cover to me.

I'm just making an educated guess, as I've seen pictures like that before.(Through cloud cover)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317810
10/26/2007 6:33 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

bump for doom
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 208180

I love DOOM...bring it on....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 247321
10/26/2007 6:34 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Comets bring energy. It will not hit earth -it is hear to help many -wake up
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 203764
10/26/2007 6:36 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

a fuckin space ship i tell ya
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 279081
10/26/2007 6:41 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

What you are seeing in the photo posted by Freeflow ...is obviously an impacter...this comet has been hit by something, most likely a fast moving asteroid...the debris look alot like the debris when our probe hit that comet awhile back, notice the debris showering out. This is most definatly an impact of some sort between the comet and an asteroid.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 279081
10/26/2007 6:44 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Cracked it open like an egg and the coma is leaking into space.
FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 6:46 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

What you are seeing in the photo posted by Freeflow ...is obviously an impacter...this comet has been hit by something, most likely a fast moving asteroid...the debris look alot like the debris when our probe hit that comet awhile back, notice the debris showering out. This is most definatly an impact of some sort between the comet and an asteroid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 279081

Yep!
Looks like a grand version of the NASA Tempel-1 experiment ...
Remember they were so puzzled about the huge increase the brightness at the spot where it was hit and throw out a huge glowing cloud .
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 166694
10/26/2007 6:50 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

I only wonder why this pic looks quite different from those perfect round halo pics on spaceweather:



:holmes:
 Quoting: FreeFlow

17P/Holmes is evolving toward a Earthlike planet, it is in accretion phase currently. The huge "eruption" was caused by the impact form large space rock.
89446
User ID: 252155
10/26/2007 7:01 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

I think by corroborating what we have by now (including that scientist saying it could look as big as the Moon) and adding this opinion of an independent astronomer, we have cracked the case:


Holy smoke! This is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. Reminiscent of Comet IRAS-Araki-Alcock back in '83, yet strangely different. I wonder what it will do next?

Jimmy Westlake,
Stagecoach, Colorado USA
Oct. 25, 2007

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

Comet IRAS-Araki-Alcock (C/1983 H1) was a small comet that, in 1983, made the closest approach to the earth (about 5,000,000 km) of any comet in 200 years.

During the closest approach the comet appeared as a circular cloud about the size of the full moon, shining at a naked eye magnitude of 3-4.

It displayed no discernible tail and swept across the sky at an incredible speed of some 30 degrees per day.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
89446
User ID: 252155
10/26/2007 7:03 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

What if the slight difference is that it's.... heading bulss-eye towards us??? Oh the doom... hiding 5a
* <----star of destiny
User ID: 279402
10/26/2007 7:11 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

It is lookin more and more that this could be the real deal "the star of destiny" for a world ....a little more and we shall see. But one thing is for sure ...If this gets world wide notice even from people who could give a shit less about the stars and it reaches the MSM (Main Stream Media) then you know this is it. The period at the end of the sentence in this book of life.

I am praying that it is ...because i want from from this slave factory known as modern "civilization". We need a kinder, gentler world with lots more love. And that is what the next world will be. No more of this bullshit of survival of the fittest (the dumbest) and no more dog eat dog (fool eat fool) and no more law of the jungle (law of the cowards).
* <----star of destiny
User ID: 279402
10/26/2007 7:11 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

It is lookin more and more that this could be the real deal "the star of destiny" for a world ....a little more and we shall see. But one thing is for sure ...If this gets world wide notice even from people who could give a shit less about the stars and it reaches the MSM (Main Stream Media) then you know this is it. The period at the end of the sentence in this book of life.

I am praying that it is ...because i want freedom from this slave factory known as modern "civilization". We need a kinder, gentler world with lots more love. And that is what the next world will be. No more of this bullshit of survival of the fittest (the dumbest) and no more dog eat dog (fool eat fool) and no more law of the jungle (law of the cowards).
allan
User ID: 317847
10/26/2007 7:14 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Its lord lucan
Moonscapes
User ID: 274922
10/26/2007 7:15 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Damn-it Jim! I'm an astronomer not a prophet!
 Quoting: Teliao


Hahaha! Thanks for the laugh - that phrase brought back some good memories!! hf
Do not dismiss your dreams.
To be without dreams is to be without hope.
To be without hope is to be without purpose.
Teliao
User ID: 130291
10/26/2007 7:18 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Damn-it Jim! I'm an astronomer not a prophet!


Hahaha! Thanks for the laugh - that phrase brought back some good memories!! hf
 Quoting: Moonscapes

*grin*

You are most welcome hf
"We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of the dream."

"People often tell me motivation doesn't last. I tell them bathing doesn't either. That's why I recommend it daily!"-Zig Zigler

We are here on Earth to do good to others. What the others are here for, I don't know.- W. H. Auden

"If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, 'thank you,' that would suffice."--Meister Eckhart
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317719
10/26/2007 7:22 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

I only wonder why this pic looks quite different from those perfect round halo pics on spaceweather:



:holmes:
 Quoting: FreeFlow



Man this pic reminds me of my hemorrhoids...
Moonscapes
User ID: 274922
10/26/2007 7:23 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

It is lookin more and more that this could be the real deal "the star of destiny" for a world ....a little more and we shall see. But one thing is for sure ...If this gets world wide notice even from people who could give a shit less about the stars and it reaches the MSM (Main Stream Media) then you know this is it. The period at the end of the sentence in this book of life.

I am praying that it is ...because i want from from this slave factory known as modern "civilization". We need a kinder, gentler world with lots more love. And that is what the next world will be. No more of this bullshit of survival of the fittest (the dumbest) and no more dog eat dog (fool eat fool) and no more law of the jungle (law of the cowards).
 Quoting: * <----star of destiny 279402


Star, I know what you mean when you say this. I empathize with you.
Do not dismiss your dreams.
To be without dreams is to be without hope.
To be without hope is to be without purpose.
FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 7:26 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Star, I know what you mean when you say this. I empathize with you.
 Quoting: Moonscapes

I absolutely concur too!
grouphug
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
Michael
User ID: 181321
10/26/2007 7:26 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

OK, let's call it the King of Terror and get it over with. It looks.... E-VIL. LOL

Damn-it Jim! I'm an astronomer not a prophet!
 Quoting: Teliao



1rof1
Q
User ID: 128638
10/26/2007 7:39 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

The image reveals the ***comet's increase in size*** during a seven-hour period.

[link to cometography.com]

This image is composed of two images obtained by G. W. Kronk of comet 17P/Holmes on 2007 October 25, after it had undergone a brightness outburst of 12-13 magnitudes.

To the naked-eye, the comet's brightness did not seem to change during this period. Each image is a combination of 38 images obtained over a period of two minutes using a 20-cm Meade SCT, an f/3.3 focal reducer, and a MallinCam Hyper video camera.
Teliao
User ID: 130291
10/26/2007 7:39 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

It is lookin more and more that this could be the real deal "the star of destiny" for a world ....a little more and we shall see. But one thing is for sure ...If this gets world wide notice even from people who could give a shit less about the stars and it reaches the MSM (Main Stream Media) then you know this is it. The period at the end of the sentence in this book of life.

I am praying that it is ...because i want freedom from this slave factory known as modern "civilization". We need a kinder, gentler world with lots more love. And that is what the next world will be. No more of this bullshit of survival of the fittest (the dumbest) and no more dog eat dog (fool eat fool) and no more law of the jungle (law of the cowards).
 Quoting: * <----star of destiny 279402

Like I've always asked..."Where is that earth grazing catastrophe to put all this petty BS into perspective?"

Curious, in your vision did the star of destiny just appear as a sign? Or did it come close?...real close.
"We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of the dream."

"People often tell me motivation doesn't last. I tell them bathing doesn't either. That's why I recommend it daily!"-Zig Zigler

We are here on Earth to do good to others. What the others are here for, I don't know.- W. H. Auden

"If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, 'thank you,' that would suffice."--Meister Eckhart
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