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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 298377
10/26/2007 7:44 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I am not sure if I am the first one to think this but didn't Nostradamus say something about a comet during this time? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 298377
10/26/2007 7:46 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Found something:
2 Q41 --A comet or supernova blazes for seven days during a future nuclear war or act of nuclear terrorism that forces a future pope to change his abode. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317818
10/26/2007 7:47 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Did you folks see this pic already? It looks really weird and no other image I know of showed a glowing debris cloud so far:
:holmes: Quoting: FreeFlow
That is THE WOW SHOT for a comet. An astro photographers wet dream come true.
It's activity is totally unheard of.
WOW!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 298377
10/26/2007 7:49 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Found another:
Mabus then will soon die, there will come
A horrible undoing of people and animals:
At once vengeance one will see vengeance,
One hundred hands, thirst, famine, when the comet will run. |
| * <----star of destiny
User ID: 279402
10/26/2007 7:52 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
It is lookin more and more that this could be the real deal "the star of destiny" for a world ....a little more and we shall see. But one thing is for sure ...If this gets world wide notice even from people who could give a shit less about the stars and it reaches the MSM (Main Stream Media) then you know this is it. The period at the end of the sentence in this book of life.
I am praying that it is ...because i want freedom from this slave factory known as modern "civilization". We need a kinder, gentler world with lots more love. And that is what the next world will be. No more of this bullshit of survival of the fittest (the dumbest) and no more dog eat dog (fool eat fool) and no more law of the jungle (law of the cowards).
Like I've always asked..."Where is that earth grazing catastrophe to put all this petty BS into perspective?"
Curious, in your vision did the star of destiny just appear as a sign? Or did it come close?...real close. Quoting: Teliao
Well you see that's the thing. It all depends on what we as a people do. The masses of humanity. We can no longer fight wars ...we can no longer wage wars against nature and each other. All wars must stop. But it always comes down to this. When the sign (star) appears it could spell a horrible terrible end too terrible to imagine. Worst than anything science can tell us. OR it can be just a beautiful sign in the sky and it can be told to us why it's there as part as a beautiful story ...like a poet telling a poem. IF the human race makes the right decisions. We must choose a global peace and a global love and it must be emphasized to us by someone that really understands why all this is happening and it has nothing to do with any particular religion ......But there is some truth in all religions as to why its here.
Look for the similarities and commonalities in all religions and in science and in all beliefs and when you find the similarities and commonalities then you will understand why. But why is really easy to see. Its all about war and peace. We need peace now and no more beating of the war drums and no more destruction of our planet.
When peace comes it comes like a tidal wave ...a tidal wave that starts as a "star" in the sky that doesnt go away ...ever...it just gets bigger and bigger until human DECISION decides if it stops ....And i for one DO believe in miracles. It will take a miracle to stop it. But miracles do happen and remember this .....there cant be any miracles without love and peace. None at all.
Peace is NO JOKE. Peace is extremely serious stuff. Eventually a whole world's survival depends on it. This could very well be that eventuality. The war business must go out of business.
Love will rule ..one way or another it will.
P.S- no technology will save us from this ...EXCEPT the technology which allows us to communicate why but ultimately it depends on the decision of the mind, heart and soul....in each individual. The least those in power can do is put the message of why out to the world ...That is the least they can do ...and lets see what happens. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 150812
10/26/2007 7:56 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
So that is what I saw this morning. It was foggy, but I could see the full moon and this bright thing in the east. Even the street light polution wasn't enough to mask it's brightness. That was pretty cool. I'll have to look for it tomorrow morning too. |
| Q
User ID: 128638
10/26/2007 7:57 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This is a good post
======================
[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]
Future prospects (by Alan MacRobert). "My bet is this comet will ***stay bright for a long while***. The yellow-white color is dust reflecting sunlight, and dust is what keeps a comet bright. As opposed to gas (comet gas is green and blue), which blows away quickly in the solar wind. Also, the brilliant stellar nucleus and the inner-coma fan suggest that the nucleus us still producing a lot of dust. This comet won't fade out soon.
*
Thursday Oct. 25: "This object is amazing!" posted Brian Cudnik of Houston, Texas, on the Yahoo CometChasing group after coming in from his telescope on the evening of the 24th. "I have just observed it with an 8-inch f/10 Cassegrain, boosting the power up to 163x then to 508x.... The bright inner coma seems displaced off-center toward position angle 315°. The inner coma opens up into a fan toward position angle 300°, and I have noticed one ripple, akin to the hoods/ripples seen in Comet Hale-Bopp ten years ago. The coma is uniform in brightness, aside from this fan-shape material emanating from the central condensation, and has a well-defined edge." He measured the coma to be 69 arcseconds wide using using the drift method. "The entire object has a nice yellow-white color; no sign of any tail. The apparent magnitude is +2.8 (estimated using Alpha Per at +1.9 and the other two bright stars adjacent to it at +3.0 each) and has remained rather steady all evening." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317818
10/26/2007 7:58 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I only wonder why this pic looks quite different from those perfect round halo pics on spaceweather:
:holmes:
That picture looks like it was taken through light cloud cover to me.
I'm just making an educated guess, as I've seen pictures like that before.(Through cloud cover) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 316477
That's really funny!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahha
The telescope would more than likely be focused way beyond the clouds.
You would never be able to see a defined out line of a cloud while focused on a comet.
It's like focusing on the moon through tree branches and leaves. You never see them, it just block out some of the light and can make for a blurry image. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317857
10/26/2007 8:07 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
It has been disrupted ..... Humor me here with these trival things we know
BE SURE TO READ AND TELL ME NOTHING IS OUT THERE ~~~!
..... Pioneer 10 left Earth in 1972 to make history in the outer solar system. Why isn't the little probe where it's supposed to be? [link to www.planetary.org]
for the reading crowd
August 31, 2007
Read a letter from the Executive Director of The Planetary Society.
"I'm writing this emergency letter to bring you up to date on what we've accomplished, and to ask for your immediate help— to ensure that we can complete this project, solve this mystery, and perhaps change what every scientist on Earth thinks about basic physics.
Something strange is happening in the outer reaches of our solar system. The Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft are not where they are supposed to be. These missions, launched in 1972 and 1973, have covered hundreds of millions of kilometers, heading toward the edge of our solar system. But something is holding them back. Each year, they fall behind in their projected travel by about 5,000 kilometers (3,000 miles).
Jet Propulsion Laboratory scientist John Anderson and his colleagues have been searching for an explanation since 1980. But as of yet, they have found nothing conclusive; no spacecraft behavior or previously unknown property of the outer solar system can explain the deceleration of the Pioneer spacecraft. Scientists are being forced to consider the unthinkable: something may be wrong with our understanding of the laws of physics. An important line of inquiry will be to study mounds of Doppler (velocity) data and spacecraft status data (like temperatures) that have been unavailable to researchers—but that is about to change. ....Whether it turns out to be an annoying spacecraft effect or a revolution in physics, the Pioneer Anomaly is a mystery that must be solved as we continue to explore the universe around us.
[link to www.planetary.org]
Pioneer Anomaly Project Update
A Letter From the Project Director
by Slava G. Turyshev
March 28, 2007 More On This Project
March 28, 2007: A Letter from the Project Director
March 6, 2006: The Final Attempt to Contact Pioneer 10
June 1, 2006: Data Saved!
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Dear Members of The Planetary Society:
First of all, thank you very much for your continuing support for our efforts to identify the nature of the Pioneer anomaly. In this letter, I would like to provide you with some details on our current work.
As of March 2007, the existence of the anomaly is confirmed by seven independent investigations using different navigational codes -- the signal is present in the Doppler data received from both Pioneers 10 and 11. The most important question now is to identify the cause of this anomalous frequency drift discovered in the Pioneer data......
[link to www.planetary.org] |
| Teliao
User ID: 130291
10/26/2007 8:16 PM
 | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Well you see that's the thing. It all depends on what we as a people do. The masses of humanity. We can no longer fight wars ...we can no longer wage wars against nature and each other. All wars must stop. But it always comes down to this. When the sign (star) appears it could spell a horrible terrible end too terrible to imagine. Worst than anything science can tell us. OR it can be just a beautiful sign in the sky and it can be told to us why it's there as part as a beautiful story ...like a poet telling a poem. IF the human race makes the right decisions. We must choose a global peace and a global love and it must be emphasized to us by someone that really understands why all this is happening and it has nothing to do with any particular religion ......But there is some truth in all religions as to why its here.
Look for the similarities and commonalities in all religions and in science and in all beliefs and when you find the similarities and commonalities then you will understand why. But why is really easy to see. Its all about war and peace. We need peace now and no more beating of the war drums and no more destruction of our planet.
When peace comes it comes like a tidal wave ...a tidal wave that starts as a "star" in the sky that doesnt go away ...ever...it just gets bigger and bigger until human DECISION decides if it stops ....And i for one DO believe in miracles. It will take a miracle to stop it. But miracles do happen and remember this .....there cant be any miracles without love and peace. None at all.
Peace is NO JOKE. Peace is extremely serious stuff. Eventually a whole world's survival depends on it. This could very well be that eventuality. The war business must go out of business.
Love will rule ..one way or another it will.
P.S- no technology will save us from this ...EXCEPT the technology which allows us to communicate why but ultimately it depends on the decision of the mind, heart and soul....in each individual. The least those in power can do is put the message of why out to the world ...That is the least they can do ...and lets see what happens. Quoting: * <----star of destiny 279402
Thankyou for the reply. Interesting you say that it comes like a tidal wave that begins as a star. I've dreamt of repeated tidal waves and one star that glows bright for a little while then makes for the ocean like a salt starved lemming!
As to peace...."Go before me and become perfect"
"There is no separation, only miss-communication" |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 270791
10/26/2007 8:18 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Its roughly 8:20 right now where is this thing at in the sky. Can it be seen right now with binoculars? |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/26/2007 8:19 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Its roughly 8:20 right now where is this thing at in the sky. Can it be seen right now with binoculars? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 270791
Do you know where to look at?
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
10/26/2007 8:21 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Outside of a terrific sight this comet shows one thing, when it comes to new sights in the cosmos nothing stops the amateur astros from showing it to the world, the same would go for Nancy's delusion, you would not be able to suppress such a finding. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317818
10/26/2007 8:23 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
What's escape velocity for the solar system?? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 304493
10/26/2007 8:27 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I finally saw it last night. Naked eye, it looks like just another star. Would never have noticed it, if I didn't know where to look, or what I what I was looking for. Through binoculars, it's a little more impressive. You can tell it's not a star, it looks like a fuzzy spot, rather than a pinpoint like the surrounding stars.
Still, not as impressive as all that. I'm just wondering what all those medieval artists were looking at when they drew huge moon-sized comets with tails that arced halfway across the sky, as in the following link:
[link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317818
10/26/2007 8:29 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Its roughly 8:20 right now where is this thing at in the sky. Can it be seen right now with binoculars?
Do you know where to look at? Quoting: FreeFlow
Hopefully you know where the pole star is. Look to the north east of it. Well lets put it this way. Look one notch up to the north and a couple clicks east. If you have some binoculars it will look like a big golden star.
This is going by the pics I've seen already.
Hell yeah yall GO GET US SOME GLP PICS!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 270791
10/26/2007 8:30 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I don't really know where to look but the full moon is partialy hidden by clouds so I don't think i'll get to see it due to overcast. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 173687
10/26/2007 8:33 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
history repeating itself as this has been brightening and fading for years. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317818
10/26/2007 8:34 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I could but it'll take me two hours to set up and maybe another half hour to get a good polar alignment.
I'm to lazy and need a place well away from the light pollution so I can build my observatory. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 304493
10/26/2007 8:39 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I could but it'll take me two hours to set up and maybe another half hour to get a good polar alignment.
I'm to lazy and need a place well away from the light pollution so I can build my observatory. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317818
I'm glad Copernicus and Kepler didn't have that kind of attitude. If they did, we'd all still be under the belief that the universe revolves around the Earth, and that the Earth was flat! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317818
10/26/2007 8:44 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I'm just wondering what all those medieval artists were looking at when they drew huge moon-sized comets with tails that arced halfway across the sky, as in the following link:
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
We have had comets like that in our life time. Alot lot of them are recent relitivly speaking.
I think it was comet hyacatakia(murdered the spelling on that one)
Any way it had a freaking tail from a little north of (straight up, I forget what to call it in astronomical terms) to half way to the ecliptic and I know it was more than that.
Thats a tail almost across the WHOLE sky.
iT WAS FAINT but you could see it and it didn't last that long. It was a quick passing comet that put on one HEll of a show. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317818
10/26/2007 8:45 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Didn't need a telescope for it either
Just look up!
It was a really good one! Google it. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 300516
10/26/2007 8:50 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Is it getting brighter? If it is, then it shall reach closest to us October 31st 2007 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 304493
10/26/2007 8:51 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317882
10/26/2007 8:52 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
... Scientists are being forced to consider the unthinkable: something may be wrong with our understanding of the laws of physics. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317857
Duh...ya think...maybe? ((picture of little guy falling on floor laughing)) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317818
10/26/2007 8:54 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I could but it'll take me two hours to set up and maybe another half hour to get a good polar alignment.
I'm to lazy and need a place well away from the light pollution so I can build my observatory.
I'm glad Copernicus and Kepler didn't have that kind of attitude. If they did, we'd all still be under the belief that the universe revolves around the Earth, and that the Earth was flat! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 304493
They were probably rich too and didn't have all to tech we have. It takes time to set it up RIGHT!
And I have a day job that wears me the fuck out.
So no this little star comet is not worth my time, when I know many others are on this like white on rice. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 304493
10/26/2007 8:56 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
... Scientists are being forced to consider the unthinkable: something may be wrong with our understanding of the laws of physics. ...
Duh...ya think...maybe? ((picture of little guy falling on floor laughing)) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317882
Until 'physicists' and so-called modern science can unify the theories of gravity and the electroweak force, don't trust any scientist as far as you can throw him. Except maybe Steven Hawking, that would be funny to see him thrown across the room. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317886
10/26/2007 9:00 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 304493
Thanks for helping me out there. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317886
10/26/2007 9:02 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
ZENITH
I remembered   Sorry about that. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317886
10/26/2007 9:19 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I just went out to do a rough search for it and it's behind a tree and coming up with the FULL MOON.
I'd say in about three to four hour it will reach the zenith and then start to set from there.
So really I won't be able to see for about another hour and a half to two hours.
It 's just a dot in the sky like a star. It's no big show.
All yalls talk about it did give me a big woody about though |
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