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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 281305
11/7/2007 5:25 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Do you have a larger copy of this image?
Unfortunately not but here's the link to all pics, maybe I am missing a button there:
[ link to www.flickr.com]
Thank you very much! I have gone out three nights viewing Holmes and plan on going out tomorrow night. This has been a great show! |
| GREY LENSMAN 
User ID: 322583
11/7/2007 6:00 AM
 | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
THUNDERBOLTS ISSUES REPLY. EXPLAINS THAT THIS COMET IS ELECTRICAL AND ACTING AS EXPECTED.
QUOTE
Comet Holmes In The
Electric Universe
By Michael Goodspeed
Thunderbolts.info
11-7-7
"It's a mystery to me how comets work at all."
--Donald Brownlee, principal investigator of NASA's Stardust Mission
No phenomenon in the observed Universe has been a source of more continuous surprises than comets. In fact, despite the exterior confidence by astronomers and astrophysicists that "all is well" in mainstream cometology, researchers have been so baffled by unexpected discoveries that conventional comet theory no longer exists! "We have now had four close encounters with comets, and every one of them has thrown astronomers onto their back foot." -Stuart Clark, New Scientist, September 09, 2005.
Yet comets are still touted as "Rosetta Stones" allowing us to decipher the formation of the solar system. The "dirty snowball" hypothesis, considered theoretical bedrock for decades, has failed resoundingly at predicting comet behavior and, more recently, comet composition.
The most dramatic surprises began in 1986 with the discovery of negatively charged ions in the coma of Comet Halley, the signatures of energetic electrical activity, and the absence of water on the nucleus. In subsequent years, comets have produced a steady stream of "mysteries" that have left astronomers groping for answers:
1. Highly energetic supersonic jets exploding from comets' nuclei.
2. The inexplicable confinement of these jets into narrow filaments, spanning great distances, up to MILLIONS of miles, defying the behavior of neutral gases in a vacuum.
3. Jets occurring on the dark sides of comet nuclei.
4. Comet surfaces with sharply carved relief -- the exact opposite of what astronomers expected under the "dirty snowball" model.
5. Unexpectedly high temperatures and X-ray emissions from cometary comas.
6. A short supply or complete absence of water and other volatiles on comets' nuclei.
7. Mounting evidence for the production of the OH radical in cometary comas, due to charge exchange with the Sun (the process that misled astronomers into thinking they were seeing evidence of water removed from the surface.)
8. Mineral particles that can only be formed under extremely high temperatures -- the last thing one would expect from a chunk of dirty ice arriving from the outermost reaches of the solar system.
9. Comets flaring up while in "deep freeze," beyond the orbit of Saturn.
10. Comets disintegrating many millions of miles from the Sun.
11. Comet dust particles more finely and evenly divided than is plausible for sublimating "dirty ices."
12. Ejection of larger particles and "gravel" that was never anticipated under the idea that comets accreted from primordial clouds of ice, gas, and dust.
13. The unexplained ability of a relatively minuscule comet nucleus to hold in place a highly spherical coma, up to millions of miles in diamater, against the force of the solar wind.
All the above findings pose enormous problems for the "dirty snowball" model; all are predictable features of the electric model. Nevertheless, the odds are pretty good that you have never even HEARD of the electric comet hypothesis (although had you lived in the 19th century, when astrophysical journals frequently discussed the electric properties of comets, you might have). This is because the space sciences throughout most of the 20th century have been constructed on the theoretical assumption that bodies in space are electrically neutral. An electric comet would strike at the foundations of the theoretical sciences today.
The Electric Universe views comets as negatively charged bodies moving through the radial electric field of the Sun, the most positively charged object in the solar system. The most energetic cometary displays occur with comets that spend the most time in the outer regions of the solar system, where they acquire a strongly negative charge. As they race toward the Sun, moving into a more positively charged environment, the nucleus will be subjected to increasing electrical stresses, eventually beginning to discharge.
But what might occur with a shorter-period comet that does not move on a highly elliptical orbit? It happens that presently, we are witnessing an excellent example accompanied by many enigmas. In the past two weeks, the Comet Holmes 17P has made international headlines with an energetic outburst that has left astronomers speechless. The website skyandtelescope.com has called it "the weirdest new object to appear in the sky in memory." "For no apparent reason," the comet began to increase in luminosity, rapidly brightening from 17th magnitude to about 2.5 -- approximately a million-fold increase in brightness. This is the not the first such outburst by the comet -- its discoverer Edwin Holmes witnessed a similar brightening in 1892 followed by a second eruption 2-and-a-half months later.
In the span of a few days, the comet's coma grew to such an enormous and bright disk that it could be seen with the naked eye, though it never gets as close to the Sun as the planet Mars, and when it suddenly erupted, it was moving AWAY from the Sun.
As the structure of the coma has clarified itself, jets have appeared streaming away from the center. The source of the jets is entirely enigmatic, if not preposterous through the lens of the usual comet assumptions.
"This is truly a celestial surprise"..."Absolutely amazing", said Paul Lewis, director of astronomy outreach at the University of Tennessee.
The reason for astronomers' amazement is that, given the comet's distance from the Sun, solar heating cannot offer a plausible explanation for the eruption. Worse than that, it has been moving AWAY from the Sun! So now, astronomers trying to explain these anomalies have begun grasping at straws. After a bit of hair tearing, the most common speculation is that the source of the outburst is "sinkholes" in the comet nucleus. But the trivial, almost immeasurable, gravity of a comet could hardly justify this "explanation" -- no force is available to cause the surface to "sink"!
The only other "explanation" could be that another object struck the comet, a scenario that, by the astronomers' own estimates, is virtually inconceivable.
If, however, cometary displays are almost exclusively due to electrical stresses, the question remains as to why a comet moving AWAY from the Sun might exhibit a sudden discharge. In the case of Comet Holmes, one might suppose that neither the conventional view of comets nor the electric hypothesis can explain what we're seeing. But in fact, the electric view, based on new knowledge of the solar system environment, does offer a plausible interpretation of Holmes' behavior.
In its most recent visitation, the comet Halley provided an important clue. As it moved away from the Sun out beyond the orbit of Saturn, Halley experienced a major eruption that not only remains unexplained today, but seems to have conveniently slipped from astronomers' memory. Other comets such as Hale-Bopp began erupting "prematurely," while still in the icy depths beyond Jupiter's orbit. And numerous comets have exhibited unpredictable outbursts exceedingly difficult to explain in terms of an evaporating chunk of ice. And several comets have, quite unexpectedly, exploded into fragments. (See When Comets Break Apart,
[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
In electrical terms, such unpredictable behavior can be related to the breakdown of the plasma sheath that forms around a charged body in space. This behavior is well documented in the laboratory. A plasma sheath insulates the charged body from the charge of the surrounding plasma, and across the wall of the sheath, called a "double layer," there is a strong electric field. But when that wall breaks down, the result can be an explosive instability with accompanying electric discharge. In other words, the charged body may exhibit little unusual behavior until the breakdown occurs.
Such a breakdown can be provoked as one plasma sheath penetrates into another. This phenomenon seen in the laboratory draws our attention to the structure of the Sun's plasma environment and to the unique plasma sheaths of the planets themselves. Wherever our probes have taken us, we have found new levels of structure, all with electrical implications. Within the "magnetosphere" of Venus, astronomers were amazed to find coherent ropes or "stringy things." The New Horizons probe found curious cellular blobs moving down the vast plasma tail of Jupiter. The Sun itself is immersed in plasma structure with boundaries and double layers, a laboratory in space for intense investigation today.
So what might have happened to Comet Holmes? It is not a typical comet. The eccentricity of its orbit is minimal. It is always outside the orbit of Mars and inside the orbit of Jupiter. In fact, it is virtually as close to being an asteroid as it is to being a comet. And astronomers are slowly realizing that the distinctions between asteroids and comets are not as clear as they had once believed. Occasionally, asteroids sport cometary tails, like the asteroid Chiron, which was seen to develop a tail while orbiting between Saturn and Uranus around 1988 and 1989. It is now officially classified as both an asteroid and a comet. Since the electrical stresses on Holmes would be minimal, much like those on asteroids with modestly elliptical orbits, it is not unreasonable to assume that its plasma sheath remains largely undisturbed -- unless it penetrates into or is penetrated by another sheath with sufficient differential across its double layer to cause an explosive breakdown.
It's interesting to note that the diagram of Holmes' orbit shows that it crossed the ecliptic (the plane of the planets movement around the Sun) quite close to the time of its closest approach to Mars. So it is certainly conceivable that Mars' own plasma sheath, by penetrating that of Holmes, provoked the fateful breakdown. Though this would not qualify as a coherent hypothesis today, it is the kind of issue raised by the electric model that is systematically ignored by mainstream astronomers.
As of this writing, the space science community has fallen virtually mute on the enigma(s) of Comet Holmes. Comet science is in an undeniable state of crisis, and nothing short of an intellectual revolution will save officialdom from irredeemable embarrassment. It is the hope of the electric specialists that the failures of the standard comet model, so nakedly obvious in the face of discovery, will inspire astronomers and astrophysicists to reconsider the real-world disciplines of electrodynamics and experimental plasma science -- disciplines that should never have been excluded in the first place.
For a review of the electric comet, see the index of comet pages on the Thunderbolts site:
[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
UNQUOTE
GL
greylensman@rocketmail.com |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90967
11/7/2007 6:04 AM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90967
11/7/2007 6:13 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
shady-shade
User ID: 313741
11/5/2007 3:11 PM
Comet 17/P Holmes and Nostradamus..
Quote
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The cloud will make two suns appear:
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When the great pontiff changes his abode.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90967
11/7/2007 6:14 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
:D |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 315357
11/7/2007 6:18 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Why Space Weather stop updating information? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 306018
11/7/2007 6:22 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
June 2011 we will meet the debris cloud or roughly there after.
Thats using the 2km/s data given for the clouds expansion speed.
im at work, so haven't got time to write out the math to show you, but, in 2011 we will, if it survives the journey interact with the gas / debris cloud. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90967
11/7/2007 6:34 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
We are Works-in-Progress every single one of us. Shit, even on a cellular level, every single cell in the body is completely replaced every 24 hours. ...
bipolardaily.blogspot.com/2007/10/true-self.html |
| *~Cosmogenesis~*2012
User ID: 322946
11/7/2007 6:36 AM
 | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Comet Holmes In The
Electric Universe
By Michael Goodspeed
Thunderbolts.info
11-7-7
"It's a mystery to me how comets work at all."
--Donald Brownlee, principal investigator of NASA's Stardust Mission
No phenomenon in the observed Universe has been a source of more continuous surprises than comets. In fact, despite the exterior confidence by astronomers and astrophysicists that "all is well" in mainstream cometology, researchers have been so baffled by unexpected discoveries that conventional comet theory no longer exists! "We have now had four close encounters with comets, and every one of them has thrown astronomers onto their back foot." -Stuart Clark, New Scientist, September 09, 2005.
Yet comets are still touted as "Rosetta Stones" allowing us to decipher the formation of the solar system. The "dirty snowball" hypothesis, considered theoretical bedrock for decades, has failed resoundingly at predicting comet behavior and, more recently, comet composition.
The most dramatic surprises began in 1986 with the discovery of negatively charged ions in the coma of Comet Halley, the signatures of energetic electrical activity, and the absence of water on the nucleus. In subsequent years, comets have produced a steady stream of "mysteries" that have left astronomers groping for answers:
1. Highly energetic supersonic jets exploding from comets' nuclei.
2. The inexplicable confinement of these jets into narrow filaments, spanning great distances, up to MILLIONS of miles, defying the behavior of neutral gases in a vacuum.
3. Jets occurring on the dark sides of comet nuclei.
4. Comet surfaces with sharply carved relief -- the exact opposite of what astronomers expected under the "dirty snowball" model.
5. Unexpectedly high temperatures and X-ray emissions from cometary comas.
6. A short supply or complete absence of water and other volatiles on comets' nuclei.
7. Mounting evidence for the production of the OH radical in cometary comas, due to charge exchange with the Sun (the process that misled astronomers into thinking they were seeing evidence of water removed from the surface.)
8. Mineral particles that can only be formed under extremely high temperatures -- the last thing one would expect from a chunk of dirty ice arriving from the outermost reaches of the solar system.
9. Comets flaring up while in "deep freeze," beyond the orbit of Saturn.
10. Comets disintegrating many millions of miles from the Sun.
11. Comet dust particles more finely and evenly divided than is plausible for sublimating "dirty ices."
12. Ejection of larger particles and "gravel" that was never anticipated under the idea that comets accreted from primordial clouds of ice, gas, and dust.
13. The unexplained ability of a relatively minuscule comet nucleus to hold in place a highly spherical coma, up to millions of miles in diamater, against the force of the solar wind.
All the above findings pose enormous problems for the "dirty snowball" model; all are predictable features of the electric model. Nevertheless, the odds are pretty good that you have never even HEARD of the electric comet hypothesis (although had you lived in the 19th century, when astrophysical journals frequently discussed the electric properties of comets, you might have). This is because the space sciences throughout most of the 20th century have been constructed on the theoretical assumption that bodies in space are electrically neutral. An electric comet would strike at the foundations of the theoretical sciences today.
The Electric Universe views comets as negatively charged bodies moving through the radial electric field of the Sun, the most positively charged object in the solar system. The most energetic cometary displays occur with comets that spend the most time in the outer regions of the solar system, where they acquire a strongly negative charge. As they race toward the Sun, moving into a more positively charged environment, the nucleus will be subjected to increasing electrical stresses, eventually beginning to discharge.
But what might occur with a shorter-period comet that does not move on a highly elliptical orbit? It happens that presently, we are witnessing an excellent example accompanied by many enigmas. In the past two weeks, the Comet Holmes 17P has made international headlines with an energetic outburst that has left astronomers speechless. The website skyandtelescope.com has called it "the weirdest new object to appear in the sky in memory." "For no apparent reason," the comet began to increase in luminosity, rapidly brightening from 17th magnitude to about 2.5 -- approximately a million-fold increase in brightness. This is the not the first such outburst by the comet -- its discoverer Edwin Holmes witnessed a similar brightening in 1892 followed by a second eruption 2-and-a-half months later.
In the span of a few days, the comet's coma grew to such an enormous and bright disk that it could be seen with the naked eye, though it never gets as close to the Sun as the planet Mars, and when it suddenly erupted, it was moving AWAY from the Sun.
As the structure of the coma has clarified itself, jets have appeared streaming away from the center. The source of the jets is entirely enigmatic, if not preposterous through the lens of the usual comet assumptions.
"This is truly a celestial surprise"..."Absolutely amazing", said Paul Lewis, director of astronomy outreach at the University of Tennessee.
The reason for astronomers' amazement is that, given the comet's distance from the Sun, solar heating cannot offer a plausible explanation for the eruption. Worse than that, it has been moving AWAY from the Sun! So now, astronomers trying to explain these anomalies have begun grasping at straws. After a bit of hair tearing, the most common speculation is that the source of the outburst is "sinkholes" in the comet nucleus. But the trivial, almost immeasurable, gravity of a comet could hardly justify this "explanation" -- no force is available to cause the surface to "sink"!
The only other "explanation" could be that another object struck the comet, a scenario that, by the astronomers' own estimates, is virtually inconceivable.
If, however, cometary displays are almost exclusively due to electrical stresses, the question remains as to why a comet moving AWAY from the Sun might exhibit a sudden discharge. In the case of Comet Holmes, one might suppose that neither the conventional view of comets nor the electric hypothesis can explain what we're seeing. But in fact, the electric view, based on new knowledge of the solar system environment, does offer a plausible interpretation of Holmes' behavior.
In its most recent visitation, the comet Halley provided an important clue. As it moved away from the Sun out beyond the orbit of Saturn, Halley experienced a major eruption that not only remains unexplained today, but seems to have conveniently slipped from astronomers' memory. Other comets such as Hale-Bopp began erupting "prematurely," while still in the icy depths beyond Jupiter's orbit. And numerous comets have exhibited unpredictable outbursts exceedingly difficult to explain in terms of an evaporating chunk of ice. And several comets have, quite unexpectedly, exploded into fragments. (See When Comets Break Apart,
[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
In electrical terms, such unpredictable behavior can be related to the breakdown of the plasma sheath that forms around a charged body in space. This behavior is well documented in the laboratory. A plasma sheath insulates the charged body from the charge of the surrounding plasma, and across the wall of the sheath, called a "double layer," there is a strong electric field. But when that wall breaks down, the result can be an explosive instability with accompanying electric discharge. In other words, the charged body may exhibit little unusual behavior until the breakdown occurs.
Such a breakdown can be provoked as one plasma sheath penetrates into another. This phenomenon seen in the laboratory draws our attention to the structure of the Sun's plasma environment and to the unique plasma sheaths of the planets themselves. Wherever our probes have taken us, we have found new levels of structure, all with electrical implications. Within the "magnetosphere" of Venus, astronomers were amazed to find coherent ropes or "stringy things." The New Horizons probe found curious cellular blobs moving down the vast plasma tail of Jupiter. The Sun itself is immersed in plasma structure with boundaries and double layers, a laboratory in space for intense investigation today.
So what might have happened to Comet Holmes? It is not a typical comet. The eccentricity of its orbit is minimal. It is always outside the orbit of Mars and inside the orbit of Jupiter. In fact, it is virtually as close to being an asteroid as it is to being a comet. And astronomers are slowly realizing that the distinctions between asteroids and comets are not as clear as they had once believed. Occasionally, asteroids sport cometary tails, like the asteroid Chiron, which was seen to develop a tail while orbiting between Saturn and Uranus around 1988 and 1989. It is now officially classified as both an asteroid and a comet. Since the electrical stresses on Holmes would be minimal, much like those on asteroids with modestly elliptical orbits, it is not unreasonable to assume that its plasma sheath remains largely undisturbed -- unless it penetrates into or is penetrated by another sheath with sufficient differential across its double layer to cause an explosive breakdown.
It's interesting to note that the diagram of Holmes' orbit shows that it crossed the ecliptic (the plane of the planets movement around the Sun) quite close to the time of its closest approach to Mars. So it is certainly conceivable that Mars' own plasma sheath, by penetrating that of Holmes, provoked the fateful breakdown. Though this would not qualify as a coherent hypothesis today, it is the kind of issue raised by the electric model that is systematically ignored by mainstream astronomers.
As of this writing, the space science community has fallen virtually mute on the enigma(s) of Comet Holmes. Comet science is in an undeniable state of crisis, and nothing short of an intellectual revolution will save officialdom from irredeemable embarrassment. It is the hope of the electric specialists that the failures of the standard comet model, so nakedly obvious in the face of discovery, will inspire astronomers and astrophysicists to reconsider the real-world disciplines of electrodynamics and experimental plasma science -- disciplines that should never have been excluded in the first place.
For a review of the electric comet, see the index of comet pages on the Thunderbolts site:
[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90967
11/7/2007 6:45 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
"Theoretical physics is a science locally isomorphic to mathematics"
Unknown
wavelength of light (air vs. water) [link to www.physicsforums.com]
Lighting Below the WavesAs a result of the change in density between air and water, light rays are refracted ... Each color is a wavelength of light. Most people will remember this ...
www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/lighting_below_the_waves.html
Water memory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaWater memory is a concept, basic to homeopathy, which holds that water is capable of retaining a "memory" of particles once dissolved in it. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_memory
Ties of Blood and Water - Memory Alpha - De Star Trek WikiTies of Blood and Water ... Afkomstig van Memory Alpha, de Vrije Star Trek Encyclopedie. " [link to memory-alpha.org] ...
memory-alpha.org/nl/wiki/Ties_of_Blood_and_Water
holograms
cruise4
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Maybe Gravity is erroneous.... everythings a magnet. |
| GRAVITY
User ID: 322950
11/7/2007 6:56 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
"Theoretical physics is a science locally isomorphic to mathematics"
Unknown
wavelength of light (air vs. water) [ link to www.physicsforums.com]
Lighting Below the WavesAs a result of the change in density between air and water, light rays are refracted ... Each color is a wavelength of light. Most people will remember this ...
www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/lighting_below_the_waves.html
Water memory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaWater memory is a concept, basic to homeopathy, which holds that water is capable of retaining a "memory" of particles once dissolved in it. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_memory
Ties of Blood and Water - Memory Alpha - De Star Trek WikiTies of Blood and Water ... Afkomstig van Memory Alpha, de Vrije Star Trek Encyclopedie. " [ link to memory-alpha.org] ...
memory-alpha.org/nl/wiki/Ties_of_Blood_and_Water
holograms
cruise4
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Maybe Gravity is erroneous.... everythings a magnet.
GRAVITY ALWAYS WINS! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90967
11/7/2007 7:02 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
What Are We Ignoring About Breathing?
by the late Taizan Maezumi Roshi
Usually we say there are three essentials in life: clothes, shelter and food. Breathing, the most important essential, is not mentioned. Not only do we ignore our own breathing, but we often ignore the breathing of other creatures. Animate and inanimate beings are all breathing. Breathing is a most important dharma. Without this very body, the dharma can't be appreciated. We must be aware of how this so-called body and mind exist. It is the most mysterious, subtle dharma; everything comes out of it.
We humans usually breathe fifteen to eighteen times per minute. We may think that we breathe only through the nostrils or lungs, but actually our whole body breathes. When we meditate, the frequency of our breathing can slow down to one to two times per minute. A baby breathes one to two times per minute in the mother's womb. So when you cultivate your breathing, your breathing rate becomes just about the same as a baby's in the mother's womb.
I have been learning about qi gong, an ancient Chinese energy practice dating back some 4,000 years. This practice and wisdom is based on the actual experiences of our ancestors. The Chinese character qi has three main implications. First, "mist" or ether"; second, "breath"; and third, "to give." When the top part of this character is written with two strokes, it means "to take." So there is the implication of giving and taking, of balancing. Gong is the way in which we deal effectively with qi in order to derive the most benefit. How can we live in the best way, using and maintaining this precious energy to benefit all of life?
Qi is energy. All of us have this energy, and yet some are healthy and some are sick. There is no good or bad energy, no right or wrong energy. Energy is energy. How do we deal with this energy in the way that best takes care of this so-called body and mind? We say body and mind are one. When we don't understand this as a basic guideline for practice, an unhealthy condition occurs. Sometimes we suffocate ourselves. There is boundless, literally immeasurable, energy to cultivate. The life of each of us is constantly appearing and disappearing in each moment. Life, each moment, is always brand new-this is the way to breathe. So, what are we ignoring about breathing?
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90967
11/7/2007 7:07 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
breathing zone
Maybe science is erroneous then....as it... sta-ta-tessss>>
What body system helps humans breathe? (Respiratory.) ...
[link to www.sciencenetlinks.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90967
11/7/2007 7:15 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
The Open Door Web Site : Biology : Animals which Breathe through ...
Large animals which breathe through their skin also use blood to transport oxygen to their tissues and to bring carbon dioxide to the surface of the body. ...
www.saburchill.com/chapters/chap0022.html
Evaluation of Corneometry (Skin Hydration) and Transepidermal ...The TEWL value is a measure of the rate of water lost through the skin (in g/h·m2) .... Also, questions regarding variability, age, body location, and breed ...
jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/134/8/2110S
clock
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 303465
11/7/2007 7:17 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Where did I read about a 33 degree angle toward the ecliptic?
I do't know. anyway this thing keeps registering more and more wierd stuff.
Check this out from an astronomy site...
A preliminary analysis, performed by astronomers Pierre Bastien and Rene Doyon from Universite de Montréal and the Centre de Recherche en Astrophysique du Quebec (CRAQ) clearly shows a bright elongated feature surrounding the more luminous comet's coma. This elongated feature, probably a cloud of dust and gas, which resembles a small tail, is going out at position angle of 145 degrees (+/- 5 deg), measured from north and going east. This direction makes an angle of about 33 degrees relative to the Sun-comet direction. Although the images display tantalizing evidence of a tail, the direction of the feature does not point directly in the direction opposite to the Sun, as expected.
I don't feel there is any real evidece of a Planet X, maybe all the so-called prophetic warnings are about some kind of spectacular celestial display only.
Still unless this thing shows up in daylight I think the hoopla on this one will fizzle out.
--wondering-- |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2007 7:19 AM | | Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2007 7:22 AM | | Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2007 7:23 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Oh yea..
Not to ignor the breathing thing.
Interestingly in ancient Hebrew ( the part of the old testament was suposed to be writen in ) the name for the first man we read as Adam was actually Ha'a'dam; which when translated means 'breather'.
Another wierd notation collective history.
--wondering-- |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2007 7:33 AM | | FreeFlow
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11/7/2007 7:43 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Maybe Gravity is erroneous.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 90967
You can say that loud, I would say official science is even deliberately erroneous ...
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 303465
11/7/2007 7:46 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Oh yea..
Not to ignor the breathing thing.
Interestingly in ancient Hebrew ( the part of the old testament was suposed to be writen in ) the name for the first man we read as Adam was actually Ha'a'dam; which when translated means 'breather'.
Another weird notation collective history.
--wondering-- |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90967
11/7/2007 7:47 AM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 322750
11/7/2007 7:56 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
can some kind person repost the picture of the green head and the blue tentacles...i can't seem to find link anymore...
thanks! |
| FreeFlow
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11/7/2007 8:18 AM | | observant
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11/7/2007 8:23 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Thanks, GL
The electric universe makes more sense to me now. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
11/7/2007 8:23 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Or was it this one you are looking for?
[link to www.spaceweather.com]
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| boy
User ID: 322514
11/7/2007 9:59 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
the "cube" pictures were photoshopped fake creations, no legitamite astronomy site or blog has touched blatant fakes like that, nor has any other recognized amateur astronomer taken similar "cube" pics.
I concur, probably it was created by the same method as the fishy symmetrical pic which resulted in a cross appearing in the center, namely by mirroring it on two square axis. Quoting: FreeFlow |
| boy
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11/7/2007 10:02 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
when this thing touches us i advise people to use their hearts and souls and not their brains to understand what is going on. Mortal brains are far too weak to understand what is going on. But within the heart and soul is the answer to it all .....use your heart and i promise you will be ok.
Peace and love : ) Quoting: * <--- Star of Destiny 279402 |
| boy
User ID: 322514
11/7/2007 10:05 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Saxon, FreeFlow.
I'm inclined to sway towards your 'show of ages' thoughts.
We are in the last days, the final throw of mankinds dice, the few days left before celestial slap down lands on us..
What can we do ? well, make peace with ourselves and others, finish up and tidy up, and ride the coaster as it rolls under us.
Those that come out the other side will be so cleansed, that even the mere memory of this shit hole will be wiped from the face of creation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 322671 |
| Gridkeeper
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11/7/2007 10:14 AM
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