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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318481
10/28/2007 11:23 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
how big is now, to the naked eye. skies are clearing here and it gets dark in about an hour and a half, so I'm gonna have a look see I think. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316369
10/28/2007 11:26 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Could this be the real reason for the space shuttle mission? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318518
10/28/2007 11:29 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Just my two cents on a couple things.
First, I thought Hubble was 'in orbit' so what is all this about MOVING it?
Second, concerning the tail and the explosions... it COULD be that something hit it, it's proximity in the solar system and gravitational effects from sun/planets has caused a shift and compromised it's structure, or enough heat was finally gathered to effect it's structure as well. Either way, something happened to the small structure and it is now emitting a 'cloud'. Couldn't this cloud (which is getting bigger) be the tail that we are looking for and therefore it is traveling AWAY from us. The cloud of debris is dissipating and therefore getting visually bigger.
Just putting in a possibility there. Quoting: A_G1RL |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318518
10/28/2007 11:31 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Could this be the real reason for the space shuttle mission? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 316369 |
| Starseeder
User ID: 316037
10/28/2007 11:33 AM
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Could this be the real reason for the space shuttle mission? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 316369
NASA and mythology go hand in hand. I advise you to read about the myth of Perseus and Medusa. It is said that the blood of the Gorgon (one of her eyes is the star Algol) was a powerful poison and also able to raise the dead... Ressurection is a reccuring theme in recent shuttle missions.
Simplicity is the key to Heaven. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/28/2007 11:33 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Could this be the real reason for the space shuttle mission?
makes me wonder..how silent it's been new wise about the comet, and the hubblecraft and it's strange movements. and that "comet" is just plain not normal. i'm not a woo woo type, but this ones got me woo wooing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318518
Well all its done is gotten slightly brighter so what is there to report?
Its brighter, still bright... still bright... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318518
10/28/2007 11:34 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
To put that in perspective, there are 6 billion people on earth multiply that by 4 times.
Now take just one of those people and compare them to the size of the number of people on earth x 4.
This is an incredibly small mass. How can it be as large as Jupiter and still be 1.9 magnitude and easily visible to the naked eye?
There is another variable, it is not as simple as a colision, there is additional energy added from an external source. Or the comet is not a comet and it is a unknown structure doing an unknown task. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318530 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275504
10/28/2007 11:36 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Could this be the real reason for the space shuttle mission? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 316369
THEY ARE WORKING ON HARMONEY |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/28/2007 11:37 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
what i keep thinking about this something hit it theory is that the object doesn't appear to have lost any mass or density from what i can see in the photos. something that would make a cloud around it as big as jupiter would seem to have had to lost considerable mass. i'm no scientist tho. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318518
I'm thinking of it like this, a dusty ball... I mean REALLY dusty and then its hit at fast speed by (since we can't find it) a marble... thats alot of dust being hit. |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
10/28/2007 11:41 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Question is, what effect will this have on the earth, if any?
Why is there no distinct tail, also? Is it moving towards us, or away from us?
This is a very interesting and odd occurrence, again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 164765
The last quote I have seen about it's direction is that the comet is approximately face on to earth, so the tail would be directly behind, this will change over the coming weeks.
Orbital Java applet here;
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/28/2007 11:50 AM
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The last quote I have seen about it's direction is that the comet is approximately face on to earth, so the tail would be directly behind, this will change over the coming weeks.
Orbital Java applet here;
[ link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
The dust tail always points away from the comet's direction of movement. Given the amount of visible stuff this comet is churning out, there should be a tail. Unless the comet is not moving or it's not on the orbit NASA claims it is. Whatever option you choose, something unusual is going on. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/28/2007 11:59 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
It's acting alot like Tempel 1.
My thought is that it's had an object thrust into it, natural or artificial. Quoting: SPIDER
Exactly!!!
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| movie buff
User ID: 291938
10/28/2007 12:05 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Relax guys. My brother's sister-in-laws husband works for George Lucas. They are currently secretly filming Star Wars VII and the special effects guys decided it would be great for them to build a 1:1 scale sized Death Star and blow it up.
FEMA didn't want them to do it in low earth orbit, so they had to go farther out.
George Lucas is scheduled for a press conference on Friday to clear up the confusion, and to go ahead and announce the new movie.
Geez. All this panic over a special effects movie.
[link to www.lucasfilm.com] |
| Kat Mama
User ID: 293826
10/28/2007 12:31 PM
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Let's not forget that NASA is a government agency. They are going to spin and not be straight with us - unless it's to their advantage.
Sure would be nice to have true scientists we could rely on to tell us - the "little guy" - the truth about these things instead of having to figure it out on our own.
CONDEMNATION without INVESTIGATION is the HIGHEST form of IGNORANCE |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318518
10/28/2007 12:33 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Relax guys. My brother's sister-in-laws husband works for George Lucas. They are currently secretly filming Star Wars VII and the special effects guys decided it would be great for them to build a 1:1 scale sized Death Star and blow it up.
FEMA didn't want them to do it in low earth orbit, so they had to go farther out.
George Lucas is scheduled for a press conference on Friday to clear up the confusion, and to go ahead and announce the new movie.
Geez. All this panic over a special effects movie.
[ link to www.lucasfilm.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318518
10/28/2007 12:37 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Let's not forget that NASA is a government agency. They are going to spin and not be straight with us - unless it's to their advantage.
Sure would be nice to have true scientists we could rely on to tell us - the "little guy" - the truth about these things instead of having to figure it out on our own. Quoting: Kat Mama |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/28/2007 12:39 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Well the conspiricy theories thus far seem to include the either of following.
- Its not a comet
- It is a comet but was hit by something of ours
- Or both the above |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318587
10/28/2007 12:43 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
One can only wonder what happened TO IT, since we know the universe is full of alive and intelligent Beings who might want to blow it up, just to see what happens.
Know what I mean?
Scientific curiosity. |
| ricker
User ID: 316964
10/28/2007 12:45 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
What the heck does this mean? I found it on cloudynights website:
"like so many others, this comet has been a real thrill. The only problem has been the bright moon. Or so I thought. Holmes is so bright and easy to find it is no problem but while looking at the comet something strange happened. A big flash of white and when I looked away from from the eyepiece there, way up several thousands of feet, in the bright moonlight were about 40 white pelicans migrating through but spiraling in a big circle and appearing right around the comet for 30 seconds or so and then drifting off to the south. Very bright in that moonlight of the 26th, and adding to the magic and grandeur of this interesting and incredible comet!
" |
| ricker
User ID: 316964
10/28/2007 12:47 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
What the heck does this mean? I found it on cloudynights website:
"like so many others, this comet has been a real thrill. The only problem has been the bright moon. Or so I thought. Holmes is so bright and easy to find it is no problem but while looking at the comet something strange happened. A big flash of white and when I looked away from from the eyepiece there, way up several thousands of feet, in the bright moonlight were about 40 white pelicans migrating through but spiraling in a big circle and appearing right around the comet for 30 seconds or so and then drifting off to the south. Very bright in that moonlight of the 26th, and adding to the magic and grandeur of this interesting and incredible comet!
" Quoting: ricker
This person was in the state of Minnesota by the way if you were wondering |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/28/2007 12:51 PM
| | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Well the conspiricy theories thus far seem to include the either of following.
- Its not a comet
- It is a comet but was hit by something of ours
- Or both the above Quoting: Anonymous Coward 199381
And your theory is? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 315680
10/28/2007 12:54 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Red-Elk Speaks
IT IS TIME TO PREPARE
THERE IS STILL HOPE!
THE SKY IS NOT YET RED
NOTE TO ALL: All medicine people that I personally know (All North and South America) have received the same orders as we 12 Inner Heyoka have: "You have one year to prepare."
As of June 13th, 2007 ALL are now going into semi-retirement to prepare ourselves and our families to what will lie ahead at the end of that year.
(Use this knowledge as you see fit.) r.e. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 297882
10/28/2007 12:56 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I have been told that it is Nibiru, transforming itself once more into a 3 Dimensional Planet. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 166812
10/28/2007 12:56 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Could be its PX, but TPTB are still trying to cover up its appearence, for as long as possible... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318597
10/28/2007 12:57 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
The dust tail always points away from the comet's direction of movement. Given the amount of visible stuff this comet is churning out, there should be a tail. Unless the comet is not moving or it's not on the orbit NASA claims it is. Whatever option you choose, something unusual is going on. Quoting: 89446
FFS DUDE, THE TAIL POINTS AWAY FROM THE SUN! How many times do you have to be told this before you comprehend this ? So, if a comet was moving AWAY from the sun, it would be moving INTO its own tail, as the solar winds push the particles AWAY from the sun.
Moving TOWARDS the sun, the tail would be behind it.
Now, as its in orbit, where ever the comet is, what ever it is doing, the tail will always be pointing away from the sun.
Clear ? Good. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 166812
10/28/2007 12:57 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I have been told that it is Nibiru, transforming itself once more into a 3 Dimensional Planet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 297882
hehe; funny timing there. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 166812
10/28/2007 12:58 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
The dust tail always points away from the comet's direction of movement. Given the amount of visible stuff this comet is churning out, there should be a tail. Unless the comet is not moving or it's not on the orbit NASA claims it is. Whatever option you choose, something unusual is going on.
FFS DUDE, THE TAIL POINTS AWAY FROM THE SUN! How many times do you have to be told this before you comprehend this ? So, if a comet was moving AWAY from the sun, it would be moving INTO its own tail, as the solar winds push the particles AWAY from the sun.
Moving TOWARDS the sun, the tail would be behind it.
Now, as its in orbit, where ever the comet is, what ever it is doing, the tail will always be pointing away from the sun.
Clear ? Good. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318597
Ya that was a pretty stupid post :) |
| ricker
User ID: 316964
10/28/2007 1:00 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I have been told that it is Nibiru, transforming itself once more into a 3 Dimensional Planet.
hehe; funny timing there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 166812
I thought according to theories out there that Planet X would have been coming from the other direction?? |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/28/2007 1:01 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
FFS DUDE, THE TAIL POINTS AWAY FROM THE SUN! How many times do you have to be told this before you comprehend this ? So, if a comet was moving AWAY from the sun, it would be moving INTO its own tail, as the solar winds push the particles AWAY from the sun. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318597
I beg to differ here, only the ion tail points away from the sun, the dust tail mainly points back from the direction of travel
[link to www.solarviews.com]
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/28/2007 1:09 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Well the conspiricy theories thus far seem to include the either of following.
- Its not a comet
- It is a comet but was hit by something of ours
- Or both the above
And your theory is? Quoting: 89446
Mines not really conspiricy based, more of a dusty ball unluckily getting hit... and I mean REALLY dusty. |
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