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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 235208
10/28/2007 2:54 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
It could be deliberate yeah!!
They got their tunnels and supplies sorted, all they gotta do is play a little space billiards and kaboom heres the second coming we promised ya! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 235155
10/28/2007 2:58 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
so...is it still in the same spot as it was a few nights ago? whats the update on that? im planning on looking tonight, it doesnt look cloudy today. |
| meras
User ID: 318467
10/28/2007 3:00 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
"What, I wonder, would be the effects on the moon and on the Earth if any if a comet collides with our moon?"
On the 25th June 1178 AD a collision was witnessed on the moon and was chronicled by the monk Gervase of Canterbury and became known as The Canterbury Event. |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/28/2007 3:00 PM
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I see a lot of users saying this behaves like Temple-1. In what way? Do you have pics of that one?
This one is churning out gas/debris very much symetrically, I doubt Temple-1 behaved like this. A random hit cannot cause such a symetric reaction, imo. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318609
10/28/2007 3:06 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
"What, I wonder, would be the effects on the moon and on the Earth if any if a comet collides with our moon?"
On the 25th June 1178 AD a collision was witnessed on the moon and was chronicled by the monk Gervase of Canterbury and became known as The Canterbury Event. Quoting: meras 318467
What did he describe about the event? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318481
10/28/2007 3:06 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
a NUKE would cause a symmetrical round cloud though, wouldn't it? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318566
10/28/2007 3:06 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I see a lot of users saying this behaves like Temple-1. In what way? Do you have pics of that one?
This one is churning out gas/debris very much symetrically, I doubt Temple-1 behaved like this. A random hit cannot cause such a symetric reaction, imo. Quoting: 89446
You're right, 89446... "a random hit cannot cause such a symmetric reaction", yes.
Random = chaotic. Order cannot come out of chaos or randominity.
Could this comet be... artificial? |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/28/2007 3:10 PM
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Guys, I had this brainstorm, don't know why - could comet Holmes behaving like this (allegedly this is the second time it does this, so why not more than twice?) be the... Star of Bethlehem??? Think about it. It was difficult to find out what that was because it was a star that moved yet it wasn't a comet (had no tail)!!! What do you think? Worth a different thread or not worth debating?
thanx |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 235208
10/28/2007 3:12 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Guys, I had this brainstorm, don't know why - could comet Holmes behaving like this (allegedly this is the second time it does this, so why not more than twice?) be the... Star of Bethlehem??? Think about it. It was difficult to find out what that was because it was a star that moved yet it wasn't a comet (had no tail)!!! What do you think? Worth a different thread or not worth debating?
thanx Quoting: 89446
more like a brain fart really imho |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 222335
10/28/2007 3:13 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
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| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/28/2007 3:14 PM
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more like a brain fart really imho Quoting: Anonymous Coward 235208
yeah, could be so? you never have brain farts, coward Einstein? fuck off kid. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 235208
10/28/2007 3:15 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
more like a brain fart really imho
yeah, could be so? you never have brain farts, coward Einstein? fuck off kid. Quoting: 89446
roflmao stomping my pudgy lil feets  |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/28/2007 3:16 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Hmm spaceweather.com only displays an empty page at the moment ...
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Menow
User ID: 195603
10/28/2007 3:17 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Perhaps this thing is not even a comet as many are assuming. This may be an unknown celestial object similar to but distinct from comets. We may be seeing something new. This is a big universe with many surprises.
Lets take a simpler approach, the comet is going round and round minding it's own orbit so to speak and along comes a small solid meteor going in the other direction, in our solar system we have plenty of both, so you have an impact at extremely high speeds, sufficient to fragment the core of the comet, hence the major explosion, since there is little or no friction in space the particles ejected keep expanding.
If my deduction is correct the size of the comet cloud will keep expanding but will also grow "thinner" or more diffused day by day, we should get more detailed pictures of the comet core day by day. Quoting: Prof-Rabbit 148352
Hi. I came over, but Hap has way more "celestial maths" skills than me. Ask him any questions in that area. Haven't read much of this thread, but will try to catch up. I'm pretty busy here, just now. |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/28/2007 3:17 PM
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roflmao stomping my pudgy lil feets
yes, you made your point, you thought it was a brain fart. got it. don't care. move on kid. or are you trolling? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 235208
10/28/2007 3:19 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Its baby jeebus coming back quick tell Santa! |
| jlazarus
User ID: 307688
10/28/2007 3:20 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Guys, I had this brainstorm, don't know why - could comet Holmes behaving like this (allegedly this is the second time it does this, so why not more than twice?) be the... Star of Bethlehem??? Think about it. It was difficult to find out what that was because it was a star that moved yet it wasn't a comet (had no tail)!!! What do you think? Worth a different thread or not worth debating?
thanx Quoting: 89446
i was thinking this just last night. was thinking about 'the eastern star' and comet holmes came to mind......but then it dawned on me that the 'Star of Bethlehem' couldn't have actually been an 'eastern star' since, from the viewpoint of the story of the Magi, the star would have had to have been to the 'west'...(if they hailed from the east)....
but interesting still that we had the same thought!
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318609
10/28/2007 3:23 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Star of Bethlehem was supernatural. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 196961
10/28/2007 3:29 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Star of Bethlehem was supernatural. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318609
...ugh. *puts his face in his palm* |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/28/2007 3:30 PM
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i was thinking this just last night. was thinking about 'the eastern star' and comet holmes came to mind......but then it dawned on me that the 'Star of Bethlehem' couldn't have actually been an 'eastern star' since, from the viewpoint of the story of the Magi, the star would have had to have been to the 'west'...(if they hailed from the east)....
but interesting still that we had the same thought! Quoting: jlazarus
Check this out:
Scholars argue whether the Star of Bethlehem was a legend created after the fact or a miracle created by God especially for the occasion of Christ’s birth.
But if it was a real astronomical event, what could it have been?
What can we assume about the star
It must have been a newly appeared object, since it drew the wise men from the east.
• The star appeared twice: First it led the Magi to Jerusalem for an audience with Herod. Later, it “stood over” Bethlehem.
• Matthew does not mention that the star was especially bright, and we can assume that Herod and his advisers didn't see it, since he asked the wise men when it had appeared.
• The star is referred to as a single object.
Comets can be ruled out since they were generally thought to be evil omens.
The site goes on to present it as a planet alignment:
[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
But Holmes looks like a freaky contender. A "new" star. A star that moves. No comet tail. A star that can then simply disappear. I think the planet conjunction is out of the question since it would have to last a long time until the magi reach Bethlehem and then some more and all the time guiding them in the sky. |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/28/2007 3:33 PM
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Not to mention they would have known the planets and could have discerned between a "new" star and 2 planets aligning. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 274300
10/28/2007 3:38 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Freeflow, when providing updates at the top of the thread, can you please accompany it with the date and time of the update? Readers get a more accurate visual timeline of what's going on. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/28/2007 3:42 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Space Weather is back and has got a nice size comparison with Jupiter over the last few days.
Looks like its starting to fade. |
| ricker
User ID: 316964
10/28/2007 3:46 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Space Weather is back and has got a nice size comparison with Jupiter over the last few days.
Looks like its starting to fade. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 199381
How do you figure it's fading? It's not fading moron |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/28/2007 3:49 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
How do you figure it's fading? It's not fading moron Quoting: ricker
Erm well you can see the further it gets the less bright it is and nears its peak it won't get any brighter.
Of course its not there yet, might be weeks...
Calm down. |
| ricker
User ID: 316964
10/28/2007 3:52 PM | | Ossie bloke
User ID: 317619
10/28/2007 3:53 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I am pretty sure there is an afterlife, but I feel that at the age 40 I am too young to leave this plane of existence. There were so many things I wanted to do, experience and achieve. Oh well... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318481
10/28/2007 3:55 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I am pretty sure there is an afterlife, but I feel that at the age 40 I am too young to leave this plane of existence. There were so many things I wanted to do, experience and achieve. Oh well... Quoting: Ossie bloke 317619
easy there OZ!
Go have a tinny. chill out. 
What's your theory about it, anyway! |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/28/2007 3:55 PM
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I started a different thread "Comet Holmes - Star of Bethlehem" in order to leave this one to the original discussion! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/28/2007 3:55 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Ah, here we are: [link to www.spaceweather.com]
Its not going out any time soon but my point comes from the difference in the centre of the light on the 26th and 27th. On the 27th its not as bright as the 26th. |
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