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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318609
10/28/2007 4:02 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Ah, here we are: [ link to www.spaceweather.com]
Its not going out any time soon but my point comes from the difference in the centre of the light on the 26th and 27th. On the 27th its not as bright as the 26th.
Looks to be the same brightness on the 27th but a different color. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318597
10/28/2007 4:11 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Ah, here we are: [ link to www.spaceweather.com]
Its not going out any time soon but my point comes from the difference in the centre of the light on the 26th and 27th. On the 27th its not as bright as the 26th.
Looks to be the same brightness on the 27th but a different color.
Agreed.
In tonights sky it is still extremely visible to the naked eye, and looks great in a small pair of X16 binoculars.
However, it does have a slightly different hue to it around the edges from what my eyes can see. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 283116
10/28/2007 4:13 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
The animated gif on spaceweather of days 25 -27, there looks to be a more intense center of the explosion by day 27. |
| meras
User ID: 318467
10/28/2007 4:21 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
"What, I wonder, would be the effects on the moon and on the Earth if any if a comet collides with our moon?"
On the 25th June 1178 AD a collision was witnessed on the moon and was chronicled by the monk Gervase of Canterbury and became known as The Canterbury Event.
What did he describe about the event? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318609
"The sky was cloudless and a bright new moon was rising with its horns tilted towards the east. Then suddenly: the upper horn split in two. From the midpoint of the division a flaming torch sprang up, spewing out, over a considerable distance fire, hot coals and sparks. Meanwhile the body of the Moon which was below writhed, as it were in anxiety, and to put it in the words of those who reported it to me and saw it with their own eyes, the Moon throbbed like a wounded snake. Afterwards it resumed its proper state. This phenomenon was repeated a dozen times or more, the flame assuming various twisting shapes at random and then returning to normal. Then, after these transformations, the Moon from horn to horn, that is along its whole length, took a blackish appearance. The present writer was given this report by men who saw it with their own eyes and are prepared to stake their honour on an oath that they made no addition or falsification in the above narrative." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 258583
10/28/2007 4:24 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
"What, I wonder, would be the effects on the moon and on the Earth if any if a comet collides with our moon?"
On the 25th June 1178 AD a collision was witnessed on the moon and was chronicled by the monk Gervase of Canterbury and became known as The Canterbury Event.
What did he describe about the event?
"The sky was cloudless and a bright new moon was rising with its horns tilted towards the east. Then suddenly: the upper horn split in two. From the midpoint of the division a flaming torch sprang up, spewing out, over a considerable distance fire, hot coals and sparks. Meanwhile the body of the Moon which was below writhed, as it were in anxiety, and to put it in the words of those who reported it to me and saw it with their own eyes, the Moon throbbed like a wounded snake. Afterwards it resumed its proper state. This phenomenon was repeated a dozen times or more, the flame assuming various twisting shapes at random and then returning to normal. Then, after these transformations, the Moon from horn to horn, that is along its whole length, took a blackish appearance. The present writer was given this report by men who saw it with their own eyes and are prepared to stake their honour on an oath that they made no addition or falsification in the above narrative." Quoting: meras 318467
the weather is freaking strange.
clouds are everywhere.
when will it become visible in the broad daylight?
the sign must be visible everywhere?
isn't it? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 258583
10/28/2007 4:25 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
btw
i once saw a golden dragon in the sky with fiery rays of golden light flying fast at 30 meters above the ground.
dunno what was it but I suppose it is close to the moon with horns. |
| ricker
User ID: 316964
10/28/2007 4:28 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This thread is ruined now and of course you go pin it. Quit talking about fantasy and dreams. Make your own thread for that. Jesus Christ  |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318518
10/28/2007 4:28 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Again with my two cents.
You aren't going to find anything about them moving Hubble BECAUSE THEY DON'T. It's in ORBIT and basically 'falls' around the earth. Just like the ISS orbits, and other things at that distance from the surface and such high speed ORBIT. They don't move the whole thing around.
I don't know who came up with this move and park stuff about the Hubble, but I'm calling bullhockey on that story. As far as what you're seeing in the sky that is moving and parking.... I have no idea what it is but it's NOT Hubble. Quoting: A_G1RL |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/28/2007 4:31 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Freeflow, when providing updates at the top of the thread, can you please accompany it with the date and time of the update? Readers get a more accurate visual timeline of what's going on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 274300
Yeah thanks for your suggestion, will try to date them with hindsight, tho the exact hour is not possible.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318609
10/28/2007 4:31 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
"The sky was cloudless and a bright new moon was rising with its horns tilted towards the east. Then suddenly: the upper horn split in two. From the midpoint of the division a flaming torch sprang up, spewing out, over a considerable distance fire, hot coals and sparks. Meanwhile the body of the Moon which was below writhed, as it were in anxiety, and to put it in the words of those who reported it to me and saw it with their own eyes, the Moon throbbed like a wounded snake. Afterwards it resumed its proper state. This phenomenon was repeated a dozen times or more, the flame assuming various twisting shapes at random and then returning to normal. Then, after these transformations, the Moon from horn to horn, that is along its whole length, took a blackish appearance. The present writer was given this report by men who saw it with their own eyes and are prepared to stake their honour on an oath that they made no addition or falsification in the above narrative." Quoting: meras 318467
Well, at least there were no fragments of the moon or the comet that were sent flying toward the Earth. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318518
10/28/2007 4:33 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I see a lot of users saying this behaves like Temple-1. In what way? Do you have pics of that one?
This one is churning out gas/debris very much symetrically, I doubt Temple-1 behaved like this. A random hit cannot cause such a symetric reaction, imo. Quoting: 89446 |
| moab56
User ID: 178257
10/28/2007 4:34 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Increased Light and Size= "ACCELERATION"!
Has aqquired Target and zeroing in.
Seeing ION PLUSE too wrap speed.
Soon little buddies, SOON! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 258583
10/28/2007 4:34 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
where to get x-ray and infrared imagery of the comet? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 283116
10/28/2007 4:35 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
there have been so many clouds here too. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317190
10/28/2007 4:36 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Guys, I had this brainstorm, don't know why - could comet Holmes behaving like this (allegedly this is the second time it does this, so why not more than twice?) be the... Star of Bethlehem??? Think about it. It was difficult to find out what that was because it was a star that moved yet it wasn't a comet (had no tail)!!! What do you think? Worth a different thread or not worth debating?
thanx Quoting: 89446
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| meras
User ID: 318467
10/28/2007 4:36 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
"Well, at least there were no fragments of the moon or the comet that were sent flying toward the Earth."
That we know of, remember we are talking about the period 1178AD. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318518
10/28/2007 4:38 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Guys, I had this brainstorm, don't know why - could comet Holmes behaving like this (allegedly this is the second time it does this, so why not more than twice?) be the... Star of Bethlehem??? Think about it. It was difficult to find out what that was because it was a star that moved yet it wasn't a comet (had no tail)!!! What do you think? Worth a different thread or not worth debating?
thanx Quoting: 89446 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318518
10/28/2007 4:40 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Guys, I had this brainstorm, don't know why - could comet Holmes behaving like this (allegedly this is the second time it does this, so why not more than twice?) be the... Star of Bethlehem??? Think about it. It was difficult to find out what that was because it was a star that moved yet it wasn't a comet (had no tail)!!! What do you think? Worth a different thread or not worth debating?
thanx
more like a brain fart really imho Quoting: Anonymous Coward 235208
see? there really aint no reason for that. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/28/2007 4:41 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This thread is ruined now and of course you go pin it. Quit talking about fantasy and dreams. Make your own thread for that. Jesus Christ
No it's not ruined, let people express their concerns, why not?
The same happens always with every similar big thread, first there are mostly updates and good links and then come the more or less wild speculations ... lol.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Michael
User ID: 181321
10/28/2007 4:41 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318518
10/28/2007 4:43 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Hmm spaceweather.com only displays an empty page at the moment ... Quoting: FreeFlow |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 303859
10/28/2007 4:46 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
maybe the aliens added water and got an instant planet - X now coming at ya |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 283116
10/28/2007 4:48 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Its the actual size of Jupiter or is it somewhat smaller but looks that way in perspective? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318518
10/28/2007 4:48 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Guys, I had this brainstorm, don't know why - could comet Holmes behaving like this (allegedly this is the second time it does this, so why not more than twice?) be the... Star of Bethlehem??? Think about it. It was difficult to find out what that was because it was a star that moved yet it wasn't a comet (had no tail)!!! What do you think? Worth a different thread or not worth debating?
thanx
i was thinking this just last night. was thinking about 'the eastern star' and comet holmes came to mind......but then it dawned on me that the 'Star of Bethlehem' couldn't have actually been an 'eastern star' since, from the viewpoint of the story of the Magi, the star would have had to have been to the 'west'...(if they hailed from the east)....
but interesting still that we had the same thought! Quoting: jlazarus |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318597
10/28/2007 4:50 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
within 20 days time, I predict we will see a meteor storm of unrivaled brillance and duration across areas of the earth.
The lights reached us, so where the light goes, the particles and rocks follow.
Any thing that 'blooms' to the size of Jupiter had to have thrown out alot of rubble, and no, i not for one second believe them that this is a small object, not at all. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/28/2007 4:50 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Hmm spaceweather.com only displays an empty page at the moment ...
curiouser and curiouser. hey man, when theres something out there that increases a million fold in brightness in 24 hrs. and the gas cloud around it keeps growing and is now the size of jupiter and it aint headline news all over the place, it makes me wonder. i thought i'd read spaceweather had been empty page for a few days now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318518
It was up again minutes ago, but yes that the MSM is not on this is fishy fishier fishiest.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318518
10/28/2007 4:52 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I am pretty sure there is an afterlife, but I feel that at the age 40 I am too young to leave this plane of existence. There were so many things I wanted to do, experience and achieve. Oh well... Quoting: Ossie bloke 317619 |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/28/2007 4:52 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Its the actual size of Jupiter or is it somewhat smaller but looks that way in perspective? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 283116
When astronomers say it is the same size than they mean the actual I strongly suppose ...
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318617
10/28/2007 4:53 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Which direction can I see it from in the UK? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318609
10/28/2007 4:54 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Hmm spaceweather.com only displays an empty page at the moment ...
curiouser and curiouser. hey man, when theres something out there that increases a million fold in brightness in 24 hrs. and the gas cloud around it keeps growing and is now the size of jupiter and it aint headline news all over the place, it makes me wonder. i thought i'd read spaceweather had been empty page for a few days now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318518
That's why we are fortunate, in a way, that this "thing" is visible to the naked eye. If the comet goes through any dramatic changes it may well be visible to all of us and we won't need to rely on the so-called experts to tell us nor be concerned that they are keeping major news about the behaviour of this phenomenon from us. |
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