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17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'

 
FreeFlow (OP)

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10/24/2008 07:43 AM
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FLASHBACK:

One year ago today, on Oct. 24, 2007, Comet 17P/Holmes shocked astronomers when it suddenly exploded, brightening a million-fold to naked-eye visibility. Within three days of the blast, the comet was bigger than Jupiter, and within three weeks it was larger than the sun itself. Spanish photographers Vicent Peris and José Luis Lamadrid recorded this view on Nov. 1, 2007, using little more than a 7-inch telescope:

What happened to Comet Holmes? Just-released observations by NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope
[link to www.spitzer.caltech.edu]
... define the mass and velocity of the explosion: "The energy of the blast was about 1014 joules and the total mass was of order 1010 kg," says Bill Reach of Caltech. In other words, Holmes exploded like 24 kilotons of TNT and ejected 10 million metric tons of dust and gas into space. These numbers fit a model favored by Reach in which a cavern of ice some hundred meters beneath the comet's crust changed phase, from amorphous to crystalline, releasing in transition enough heat to cause Holmes to blow its top.

Holmes has exploded twice in recorded history--in 1892 and 2007. Two caverns down, how many to go? No one knows. Browse the gallery for a preview of what the next blast might look like:
[link to www.spaceweather.com]
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There can be no other explanation for 100+ pages of shit about a natural occurrence.


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Is that you G-louse?
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Anonymous Coward
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10/24/2008 07:49 AM
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Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'
NATURAL OCCURRENCE????

1rof1

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10/24/2008 04:37 PM
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STRANGE COMET


Not a comet IMHO
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no, i don't think it is a comet either. never did. tonight is the 1 yr anniversary! it's back.....
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10/24/2008 05:33 PM
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wow. so many here are strung up on the fake elections they fail to see this. hey, i think it's the mothership. hello??? well, i'm gonna keep bumpin it, it's the dang anniversary, and if there is a wolf brother among the sheeple, he/she might want to see it. 5a hfalso... rant.....
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bttt






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Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

--- Albert Einstein
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10/24/2008 06:10 PM
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[link to uk.youtube.com]
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10/25/2008 07:10 AM
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STRANGE COMET


Not a comet IMHO

no, i don't think it is a comet either. never did. tonight is the 1 yr anniversary! it's back.....
hi FF hf bump
 Quoting: boy 524981

Hey boy!!!
hugs

And Skywatcher Scotland ^^, those Ufo images are awsome!!!
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10/25/2008 07:47 AM
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 534118


Chiers mate!

ps.Will Chelsea defeat the Reds?What do you recon?
What I knew as tangible and real was nothing more than a flimsy, thin sheet of a reality.
I come to know that the real "me" is a supersoul that is my true reality that resides in the spirit world.
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10/26/2008 12:33 AM
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question: could this be the formation of a second sun in our solar system?
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GraftedPromise U$ofA
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WOW! 306 pages at this point!
Anonymous Coward
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10/27/2008 12:29 AM
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A guiding light.
Anonymous Coward
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Still exactly square root of zilch happening with Holmes then.

Get over it.

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Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'
Obi-wan-kenobi."That's no moon"(comet),the death star?
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Obi-wan-kenobi."That's no moon"(comet),the death star?
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bumpKeep this thread alive!
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10/28/2008 02:06 AM
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Sorry I missed the anniversary. Im still glad to have spent the time with all of you last year and our celestial friend P Holmes. I'll try to post some pics from last year, if I can figure out how to post them from my pics. Peace Holmes, may you bring wisdom to this tired planet. Later
What happened to my beloved GLP????.
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10/28/2008 02:14 AM
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Sorry for the double post, Im still trying to post some pics from last year. Back to the drawing board. Later
What happened to my beloved GLP????.
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10/28/2008 11:05 PM
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Sorry for the double post, Im still trying to post some pics from last year. Back to the drawing board. Later
 Quoting: Phasesphere

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Came closest to Jupiter way back in the 70's...so what caused it to break up?
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10/31/2008 08:49 PM
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Great thread. 5 stars and a comet.
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11/09/2008 02:32 AM
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Is there no more?Has everything been said about this?Terminator says,"I'll be back".Or,is it,oh,my back!!
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11/09/2008 02:33 AM
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Testing
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Testing
 Quoting: 11AngelEyes11

The "test" was last year.
FreeFlow (OP)

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11/10/2008 08:03 AM
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A new pic, it's not very spectacular again but consider the dust cloud has spread out so much meanwhile that it doesn't reflect much light so only the core displays itself here:
[link to www.aerith.net]

The extremely faint large diffuse object may be detected with a best sky condition, around 5-6 mag with a diameter of 1 or 2 degrees. Current brightness of the central core is 17.8 mag (Oct. 31, Ken-ichi Kadota), much brighter than pre-outburst brightness still now.
[link to www.aerith.net]
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
FreeFlow (OP)

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Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'
Meanwhile it's twin 29P shows the very similar expansion effect like 17P did a year ago.
[link to www.aerith.net]
[link to www.aerith.net]
[link to www.aerith.net]

It keeps bright as 10.6 mag still in November (Nov. 8, Marco Goiato). Now the diameter is over 4 arcmin, looks very large and diffuse

[link to www.aerith.net]

I only wonder that 29P doesn't get more coverage on the astronomical sites as it somehow is even more puzzling than Holmes as it's diameter is around 30kms compared to the 3kms of Holmes, it's just that due to it's current greater distance from earth is isn't than bright as Holmes was the year before.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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wow, what an astonishing ... non-event
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wow, what an astonishing ... non-event
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 547620

Wait until we walk into the dust clouds ...
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11/11/2008 01:32 AM
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wow, what an astonishing ... non-event

Wait until we walk into the dust clouds ...
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wow, what an astonishing ... non-event

Wait until we walk into the dust clouds ...
 Quoting: FF 456207

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Manassas John
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11/11/2008 11:09 AM
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Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'
I saw "comet" Holmes at 5:34 am EDT on Friday October 31, 2008.

I used 8 X 50 binoculars. It appeared as a blue-ish ring, like a planetary nebula.

To find it, locate Gemini, and it will be half way to Regulus. That is straight overhead in the USA.

It requires nearly perfect sky conditions.

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