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| Thundercheeks
User ID: 318830
10/29/2007 7:20 AM
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Been looking for this here in OZ for the past 3 nights and can't see it???.
Brakes is gone!! "Weeze fweewheelin!"
Just say "NO!" to Luciferian Insectazoids.
"I am not here"...what is here?..Isn't here just there without a T...? |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/29/2007 7:25 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
You need to study how and where the the Perseus constellation appears in your sky down there Thunder.
That would help you to find it ...
+ binoculars ...
Btw here's a great calculator for positions of any known object, just put in your coordinates.
[link to www.stellarium.org]
Thanks to Cherished who posted the link here!!!
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 258583
10/29/2007 7:30 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
some images i have recently found:
[link to www.narrowbandimaging.com]
[link to www.narrowbandimaging.com]
according to Starry Nights, its 2.5 au from the sun and about 1.6au from
us.
"Comets are like cats: they have tails, and they do precisely what they want."
David Levy
if its grown from 1.6' to 3' in about 24 hours, thats .7 arc min of
radius change, about 1.6AU away... thats, um... (tap tap tap on google
calculator), about 48700 km/day, or about 2000 KPH.
[link to www.flickr.com]
[link to www.narrowbandimaging.com]
A comet will often have two tails; the ionized gas tail created by
"solar wind" will stick out directly in line with the sun and the core
of the comet (pointing away from the sun). The dust tail is influenced
by "light pressure" and also points away from the sun, but because it
consists of dust particles, tends to lag behind the comet in an askew
orbital path. Sometimes we see this as a V shaped tail; these two tails
will also sometimes have different colors!
But, whichever tail you are talking about, it points away from the sun.
[link to www.astrosurf.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318921
10/29/2007 7:43 AM | | FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/29/2007 8:12 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Waiting for an update on spaceweather, the took their day off on Sunday apparently.
Also the astronomer forums haven't anything new and interesting since.
I heard someone saying it's starting to faint and lose brightness.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 311443
10/29/2007 8:29 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Since this is all an oddity from start to finish, we can make it odder still with the Perseus connection. All Doomers fasten your seatbelts and please put your trays in the upright and locked position. Thank you for flying Space-Ball Earth Airlines - have a nice death.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Etymology
Because of the obscurity of the name Perseus and the legendary character of its bearer, most etymologists pass it by, on the presumption that it might be pre-Greek. However, the name of Perseus’ native city was Greek and so were the names of his wife and relatives. There is some prospect that it descended into Greek from the Proto-Indo-European language. In that regard Robert Graves has espoused the only Greek derivation available.
Perseus might be from the ancient Greek verb, perthein, “to waste, ravage, sack, destroy”, some form of which appears in Homeric epithets. According to Carl Darling Buck (Comparative Grammar of Greek and Latin), the –eus suffix is typically used to form an agent noun, in this case from the aorist stem, pers-. Pers-eus therefore is a sacker of cities; that is, a soldier by occupation, a fitting name for the first Mycenaean warrior.
The origin of perth- is more obscure. J. B. Hofmann[20] lists the possible root as *bher-, from which Latin ferio, "strike". This corresponds to Julius Pokorny’s *bher-(3), “scrape, cut.” Ordinarily *bh- descends to Greek as ph-. This difficulty can be overcome by presuming a dissimilation from the –th– in perthein; that is, the Greeks preferred not to say *pherthein.
Graves carries the meaning still further, to the perse- in Persephone, goddess of death. John Chadwick in the second edition of Documents in Mycenaean Greek speculates as follows about the goddess pe-re-*82 of Pylos tablet Tn 316, tentatively reconstructed as *Preswa:
”It is tempting to see...the classical Perse...daughter of Oceanus...; whether it may be further identified with the first element of Persephone is only speculative.”
A Greek folk etymology connected the name of the Fars people, whom they called the Persai. The native name, however has always had an -a- in Iranian. Herodotus[21]recounts this story, devising a foreign son, Perses, from whom the Persians took the name. Apparently the Persians themselves[22] knew the story, as Xerxes tried to use it to suborn the Argives during his invasion of Greece.
Cyrus Gordon, known for his daring theories, proposed[23] that Perseus is a Semitic name, from p-r-s, "to cut." Nothing in the lore or the evidence excludes the possibility of Semitic elements among the early Greeks. The Greeks thought that Perseus meant "destroyer", but p-r-s would mean that as well. |
| Carl Spackler
User ID: 91714
10/29/2007 8:52 AM
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In the event they need an excuse to evacuate the space station...here it is:
[link to www.foxnews.com]
woo woo!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 9:08 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
IT IS REPRODUCING ITSELF!!!!
IT IS REPRODUCING!!!
THE PIECES ARE AS BIG AS THE ORIGINAL ONE!!
FUCK!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318720 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 9:12 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Man look at this:
[ link to www.ipix.lt]
So it blooms to the size of jupiter, but can still be seen as large as it was at the start ?
The core remains as bright as ever, yet we see this massive blooming ? alot of interior material must of been shot out, huge, HUGE amounts to make a cloud the size of jupiter. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 9:14 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This is not funny anymore.
Where is the media on this?
People should be informed! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318720
they are trying to keep it a secret as long as possible. this isn't a comet and they know it. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/29/2007 9:17 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
and what's that bright light to the right? doesn't look like a star. this isn't a comet. they told us to think comet so we have been stuck on that word. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318941
I've learned meanwhile this is likely a star cause the comet moved against the background between pic two and three.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 9:19 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
You need loads of MATTER and ENERGY for something like this.
This is not an ordinary comet.
This is something else.
How come it is so PERFECTLY ROUND?
Could this actully be a planet or a sun?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318720 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318949
10/29/2007 9:23 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
A couple of questions:
Is it still growing?
How long will it be visible with the naked eye? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 9:24 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
OK pic is from R. Goodman, PA.
[ link to home.comcast.net]
:breakup?:
Break up but there should be a loss of light, not two bright objects, unless the out burst coated the outer skin in a highly reflective layer of material. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318954
10/29/2007 9:27 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
A couple of questions:
Is it still growing?
How long will it be visible with the naked eye? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318949
I think that is what we are all waiting to see. Since it is visible to the naked eye we should be able to detect if it becomes larger and brighter by simple observation of the night sky. Thankfully we don't need to depend on the deaf, dumb, and blind media to inform us. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 297882
10/29/2007 9:29 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I remote viewed it last night... What colour!!!
And Intelligence!!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 9:30 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Again with my two cents.
You aren't going to find anything about them moving Hubble BECAUSE THEY DON'T. It's in ORBIT and basically 'falls' around the earth. Just like the ISS orbits, and other things at that distance from the surface and such high speed ORBIT. They don't move the whole thing around.
I don't know who came up with this move and park stuff about the Hubble, but I'm calling bullhockey on that story. As far as what you're seeing in the sky that is moving and parking.... I have no idea what it is but it's NOT Hubble.
that'd be me. and it isn't bs. in that i seen this thing parked in the sky 3 nites in a row and it took off and flew away and moved last night. as far as the guy who told me it was the hubblecraft, i dont doubt that's waht he heard as he knew it was in the nw sky, and he himself seen it move. i have checked stats on the hubblecraft and it did not seem to me that they had parked it and moved it, so i assume the only bs here is the cover story they have given for this strange thing in the sky. i'm neither lying or hallucinating, merely trying to get to the bottom of something that is very strange, especially in light of how strange all this about this "comet" is. you can call "bullhocky" all ya want aint gonna make i so. i am simply trying to find out what it is. i'm not on here to be an idiot or woo woo. sorry girl, glad you weren't on my case about it. i'm a bit touchy. i saw it again last nite, it has changed location. i knew for sure then that the hubble thing was something they had thrown out there to explain a strange thing in the sky. which has some serious implications combined with the lack of news coming from the gov't about the "comet" i'm sure they are somehow related. look to the north and west tonight people, if it's still up there, and i bet it will be, you will see it right away, very bright and flashing with blue and red lights, its been there since the 25th that i know of and has moved 3 times now.
I think you misunderstood. I was not saying that you hadn't seen what you did see. What I was saying is that the explanation that they gave you of moving and parking the Hubble can't be the correct explanation for it. Quoting: A_G1RL |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 9:32 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
my reply to girl got messed up somehow, it starts after "woo woo". check it out. the comet thing isnt the only strange thing up there now. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 9:34 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
WARN YOUR FAMILY!!
GET WATER AND FOOD!!!
IT'S COMING!!!!
IT'S COMING!!!!!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318720
last night i suddenly thought of the old thread that says, space tsunami is coming! gonna go have a look at that today. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/29/2007 9:36 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
my reply to girl got messed up somehow, it starts after "woo woo". check it out. the comet thing isnt the only strange thing up there now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318941
Where's 'woo woo' in that there, I don't see it?
Just post your reply again, we all know it's a response to A-G1rl's post.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Thundercheeks
User ID: 318830
10/29/2007 9:36 AM
| | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
You need to study how and where the the Perseus constellation appears in your sky down there Thunder.
That would help you to find it ...
+ binoculars ...
Btw here's a great calculator for positions of any known object, just put in your coordinates.
[ link to www.stellarium.org]
Thanks to Cherished who posted the link here!!!
Thanx Dil.....;)...
P.S...Very cool thread by the way man.
Brakes is gone!! "Weeze fweewheelin!"
Just say "NO!" to Luciferian Insectazoids.
"I am not here"...what is here?..Isn't here just there without a T...? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 9:37 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
looks like its changing the direction now
gaining speed and size, again
this aint no comet Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318720 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318954
10/29/2007 9:37 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
If this thing continues to expand it reach a scale where it rivals the moon in size and brilliance. Then let's see if the media can suppress the truth. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/29/2007 9:38 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
If this thing continues to expand it reach a scale where it rivals the moon in size and brilliance. Then let's see if the media can suppress the truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318954
Unfortunately the more the halo expands the dimmer it will get ...
And you're welcome Thunder!!! 
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 9:44 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
[ link to img140.imageshack.us]
Kinda looks like an image of a person in the center of the black and white one. Very strange but stunning indeed.
Jesus in a 'cloud' ?
i won't dis you on that, because with the strange behaviour of the gov't being so quiet about the so called comet and downright deceitful about the hubblecraft, which i seem to be the only one who has seen it, its why i've been tring to tell people about it since sat. so they could see it too. well anyway i thought about how in rev.19 tptb are trying to basically shoot down Jesus on the cloud. we risk being flamed examining the event in this light, but oh well. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318954
10/29/2007 9:45 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
If this thing continues to expand it reach a scale where it rivals the moon in size and brilliance. Then let's see if the media can suppress the truth.
Unfortunately the more the halo expands the dimmer it will get ...
And you're welcome Thunder!!!
It would still be an awsome sight if this thing grows to such a size that it appears as a ghostly moon next to the real one. Also, the brilliance may not fade as much as we might expect if more material is ejected, and this thing is obviously capable of ejecting massive amounts of debris. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 9:50 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
[ link to img140.imageshack.us]
Had to add the Jesus bit, it made me smile.
I kind of like the thought of a good old fashioned doom, always have for some weird reason - gets the blood moving and a break from the mundane routine of every day life. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 180349
10/29/2007 9:50 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
They are calling it a "Comet" to try to explain away that there is a Planet moving towards us!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 9:53 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Well
First this comet is not a normal comet, comet have a tail this one has none at all, is perfectly spherical.
Second it is not exploding, when a comet explode the nucleus lose light and fade shortly.
Third this object is bigger than jupiter now, how many comets with a coma bigger than the bigger planet of this solar system you have seen?
Fourth the animation shot that many bright debris or whatever they are are leaving the "comet" but the core is still there, so where this material is coming from? and they look like they are not pieces of the core since the core itself is still bright like before.
Interesting I think we will talk about this for quite some time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 316538 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 235208
10/29/2007 9:54 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Zeta's right again!  |
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