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| canadusan
User ID: 307406
10/29/2007 5:14 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Yay!
Nothing like normal spacial events to brighten up GLP! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76346
10/29/2007 5:14 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I just want to know why Nancy's Zetas didn't predict this.
Because they're NANCY's zetas... Quoting: *-L5-* 314602
exactly
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318972
10/29/2007 5:24 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I just want to know why Nancy's Zetas didn't predict this.
Because they're NANCY's zetas...
exactly
Zetas wrong as usual.
There, its said, this wasn't predicted, thought of, talked about OR ANYTHING at all by the zetas. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 247321
10/29/2007 5:25 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Although the comet is not as bright as Jupiter or a lunar mare, it is visible to the unaided eye. Look north after sunset for a magnitude +2.5 fuzzball in the constellation Perseus: sky map.
What would make a comet explode in this fashion? Actually, a better question is, what would make a comet explode twice in this fashion? This is the second time Comet 17P/Holmes has erupted. The first was in 1892, an outburst that led to the comet's discovery by British astronomer Edwin Holmes.
The answer may be sinkholes. There is growing evidence that some comets and asteroids may have a porous internal structure akin to, say, swiss cheese or a honycomb. Suppose one of the chambers of the honycomb suddenly collapsed, exposing many square kilometers of fresh cometary ice to sunlight for the first time. A flurry of sublimation would ensue with mega-jets of dusty gas emerging from the sinkhole to create a cloud around the comet much as we see now. Twice = two sinkholes, one in 1892 and one in 2007. (Many readers have asked if the explosion might be a result of a cosmic collision. Perhaps an asteroid hit the comet. While possible, such an event is unlikely to happen once and it is unlikely2 to have happened twice.)
Because no one can see the comet's nucleus--it is small, far away and hidden inside a Jupiter-sized debris cloud--this "explanation" is no more than conjecture. The true events at the core of Comet Holmes remain unknown. Grab your telescope and savor the mystery! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 282586
10/29/2007 5:29 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Maybe it's the second Sun that many people have dreamed / spoke about?. This initial brightening is the first stages of a continued thermo nuclear reaction that will eventually lead it to be daytime visible?
Who knows, the hubble images should be interesting.. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 110292
10/29/2007 5:32 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Who knows, the hubble images should be interesting.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 282586
That is if they are released for public consumption |
| oldnick
User ID: 161906
10/29/2007 5:33 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
You think we will get any? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 180437
10/29/2007 5:36 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
You think we will get any? Quoting: oldnick 161906
Not until well AFTER this has come and gone. |
| Teliao
User ID: 130291
10/29/2007 5:39 PM
 | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
You think we will get any? Quoting: oldnick 161906
We'll "get some" around this time next year...
"There is no separation, only miss-communication" |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 282586
10/29/2007 5:41 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Think positive ... they will release images |
| D. SMith
User ID: 311305
10/29/2007 5:42 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Although the comet is not as bright as Jupiter or a lunar mare, it is visible to the unaided eye. Look north after sunset for a magnitude +2.5 fuzzball in the constellation Perseus: sky map.
What would make a comet explode in this fashion? Actually, a better question is, what would make a comet explode twice in this fashion? This is the second time Comet 17P/Holmes has erupted. The first was in 1892, an outburst that led to the comet's discovery by British astronomer Edwin Holmes.
The answer may be sinkholes. There is growing evidence that some comets and asteroids may have a porous internal structure akin to, say, swiss cheese or a honycomb. Suppose one of the chambers of the honycomb suddenly collapsed, exposing many square kilometers of fresh cometary ice to sunlight for the first time. A flurry of sublimation would ensue with mega-jets of dusty gas emerging from the sinkhole to create a cloud around the comet much as we see now. Twice = two sinkholes, one in 1892 and one in 2007. (Many readers have asked if the explosion might be a result of a cosmic collision. Perhaps an asteroid hit the comet. While possible, such an event is unlikely to happen once and it is unlikely2 to have happened twice.)
Because no one can see the comet's nucleus--it is small, far away and hidden inside a Jupiter-sized debris cloud--this "explanation" is no more than conjecture. The true events at the core of Comet Holmes remain unknown. Grab your telescope and savor the mystery! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 247321
I like your explanation, but I think that a comet could get hit more then once if it is going through an area that is already heavy with debri. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 110292
10/29/2007 5:43 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
My bet is that we will soon learn of the Hubble having some communication or optical trouble |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 299457
10/29/2007 5:55 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
My bet is that we will soon learn of the Hubble having some communication or optical trouble Quoting: Anonymous Coward 110292
I wouldn't be surprised if you were right, that's the way they always operate. Nothing but a bunch of shysters...... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319098
10/29/2007 5:59 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
There will not be ANYTHING from Hubble.
If we get pics they will be altered or only half the truth.
Once HOMES (I hereby offically refuse to call it a "comet" any longer) the media will say something like "don't worry, enjoy it while it lasts" or "optical phenonemon" and that would be that.
Meanwhile, strange activity going on in politics, change of language, change of allies, change of people's minds, increase of speed.
If HOLMES is a sign that we are indeed facing (living?) the end times, no need to panic though. For all we know it's not going to be pretty, but after all Jesus is coming to save us, and that is not a bad thing at all.
Positive mindset can help.
Have no fear. Be good to your family and to yourself.
I have a feeling that HOLMES is "it", the big one. THE one.
Best of luck to all of you.
P.S. And please stop fighting and making stupid jokes in here. This is not a theory, this is actually HAPPENING and the information and the discussion is to precious to drag peoeple's attention away with the usual wank. There's plenty of room for that elsewhere. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319098
10/29/2007 6:01 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Sorry typo, I meant "Once HOLMES .... is big enough to see it daylight, the media..." and so on. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318972
10/29/2007 6:03 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
My bet is that we will soon learn of the Hubble having some communication or optical trouble
I wouldn't be surprised if you were right, that's the way they always operate. Nothing but a bunch of shysters...... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 299457
[link to www.danlessmann.com]
Make some copies of this dudes piccies and the others you have, as I can see alot of sites 'going off air' so to speak early next year, and then all proof of a large fragment will have vanished.
These shysters pull shit like that all the time when its needed..... |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/29/2007 6:13 PM
 | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I like your explanation, but I think that a comet could get hit more then once if it is going through an area that is already heavy with debri. Quoting: D. SMith 311305
It isn't his explanation, it's taken from spaceweather and it belongs to some scientists cooking their brains trying to come up with a "theory". LOL |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 6:14 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Wait, I'm confused. Scientists have said that they don't know, notablly on science news websites, theres no "know it all" attitude coverup as far as I'm concerned.
I didn't accuse the scientists I was accusing the MSM. They won't go with a story that says "scientists have no idea, but you go ahead and look at these scary pics". There is no cover up per se since this info is "out there". But there is incomplete info (the ones that know more don't release it) and mostly inaccesible info for the regular folks (because of MSM's editorial policies). Quoting: 89446 |
| JCD
User ID: 188983
10/29/2007 6:16 PM
 | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This may sound silly or may have already benn asked but........couldn't 'brighter' also mean closer? I mean I understand an explosion makes it brighter, but now that it is staying bright, does that mean it is coming closer? Since we have no info from 'approved' astonomers, just our own observations..........is that a valid question? Thanks.
Things change when you least expect it. |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/29/2007 6:19 PM
| | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
[ link to www.danlessmann.com]
Make some copies of this dudes piccies and the others you have, as I can see alot of sites 'going off air' so to speak early next year, and then all proof of a large fragment will have vanished.
These shysters pull shit like that all the time when its needed.....
Holy crap.
1. The comet is moving perceptively - a 10 minute exposure shows that. Yet no new sky charts for 5 days.
2. The comet still grows. Spaceweather shows the growth from October 25 to October 27. The link above shows it from 27 to 28. Still growing. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319033
10/29/2007 6:20 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Nothing problematic there
Comet Holmes just had an encounter with the Space Tsunami
eheheh
now seriously
Anyone could tell me if something like a brown dwarf proximity could create, theoretically, an effect near that one?
What about sources for high frequency energy?
for what we learn with Deep Impact on Tempel1, we don't need a large impact to create such a nice effect on a comet. Could a 'metal' asteroid of large size impact with the comet, therefore creating the seen effect? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 6:20 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
My bet is that we will soon learn of the Hubble having some communication or optical trouble Quoting: Anonymous Coward 110292 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318972
10/29/2007 6:22 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
[ link to www.danlessmann.com]
Make some copies of this dudes piccies and the others you have, as I can see alot of sites 'going off air' so to speak early next year, and then all proof of a large fragment will have vanished.
These shysters pull shit like that all the time when its needed.....
Holy crap.
1. The comet is moving perceptively - a 10 minute exposure shows that. Yet no new sky charts for 5 days.
2. The comet still grows. Spaceweather shows the growth from October 25 to October 27. The link above shows it from 27 to 28. Still growing.
Uh hu, thats why I said make copies for prosperity. This keps on going, these sites will vanish into the memory sink like most pertinent information. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 6:23 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This may sound silly or may have already benn asked but........couldn't 'brighter' also mean closer? I mean I understand an explosion makes it brighter, but now that it is staying bright, does that mean it is coming closer? Since we have no info from 'approved' astonomers, just our own observations..........is that a valid question? Thanks. Quoting: JCD |
| JCD
User ID: 188983
10/29/2007 6:25 PM
| | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This may sound silly or may have already benn asked but........couldn't 'brighter' also mean closer? I mean I understand an explosion makes it brighter, but now that it is staying bright, does that mean it is coming closer? Since we have no info from 'approved' astonomers, just our own observations..........is that a valid question? Thanks.
i have no idea, but i know this whatever it is, is seriously wierd. you dont sound silly because even the astronomers have said its mysterious to them and they really dont know for sure why its doing like it does. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318941
Thank you. I was just thinking, with it being so bright and all, by the time it is visible in daylight, it would actually be pretty close wouldn't it? Even though in the beginning of this whole thing everyone swore up and down it was not on a path 'towards' us.....assuming it is a comet anyways.....
edit: side note. Who is the comet named after? if anyone knows.
Things change when you least expect it. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 6:25 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
There will not be ANYTHING from Hubble.
If we get pics they will be altered or only half the truth.
Once HOMES (I hereby offically refuse to call it a "comet" any longer) the media will say something like "don't worry, enjoy it while it lasts" or "optical phenonemon" and that would be that.
Meanwhile, strange activity going on in politics, change of language, change of allies, change of people's minds, increase of speed.
If HOLMES is a sign that we are indeed facing (living?) the end times, no need to panic though. For all we know it's not going to be pretty, but after all Jesus is coming to save us, and that is not a bad thing at all.
Positive mindset can help.
Have no fear. Be good to your family and to yourself.
I have a feeling that HOLMES is "it", the big one. THE one.
Best of luck to all of you.
P.S. And please stop fighting and making stupid jokes in here. This is not a theory, this is actually HAPPENING and the information and the discussion is to precious to drag peoeple's attention away with the usual wank. There's plenty of room for that elsewhere. i had to laugh, you refuse to call it comet anymore, me too!! and i'm with ya about the rest of your post too, well said! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 319098 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 122589
10/29/2007 6:26 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
1. The comet is moving perceptively - a 10 minute exposure shows that. Yet no new sky charts for 5 days. Quoting: 89446
This comet is exceedingly easy to follow. I've been following it naked eye since the brightening, and its postion relative to the two nearest bright stars (Alpha and Delta Persei) has only changed slightly. You won't need any new charts for the next few days. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319033
10/29/2007 6:27 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I wonder where is Gridkeeper and his mighty secret telescope and mystery photo technics now... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 6:28 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
i keep screwing up when i try to quote someone..the person who said they refuse to call it a comet anymore, me too. i will hereby call it homes too, cause i reckon i'm going home at last. that was a well said post, nice to read ya. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/29/2007 6:31 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This may sound silly or may have already benn asked but........couldn't 'brighter' also mean closer? I mean I understand an explosion makes it brighter, but now that it is staying bright, does that mean it is coming closer? Since we have no info from 'approved' astonomers, just our own observations..........is that a valid question? Thanks.
i have no idea, but i know this whatever it is, is seriously wierd. you dont sound silly because even the astronomers have said its mysterious to them and they really dont know for sure why its doing like it does.
Thank you. I was just thinking, with it being so bright and all, by the time it is visible in daylight, it would actually be pretty close wouldn't it? Even though in the beginning of this whole thing everyone swore up and down it was not on a path 'towards' us.....assuming it is a comet anyways.....
edit: side note. Who is the comet named after? if anyone knows. Quoting: JCD |
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