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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 235208 10/29/2007 6:33 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
i keep screwing up when i try to quote someone..the person who said they refuse to call it a comet anymore, me too. i will hereby call it homes too, cause i reckon i'm going home at last. that was a well said post, nice to read ya. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318941
Me too!
"we will bight them on the feaches"......see :(
Comet sickness! |
| 89446 User ID: 252155 10/29/2007 6:38 PM
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This comet is exceedingly easy to follow. I've been following it naked eye since the brightening, and its postion relative to the two nearest bright stars (Alpha and Delta Persei) has only changed slightly. You won't need any new charts for the next few days. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 122589
Thanks for the info! 
I cannot look at it because of the weather.
So its position has only moved slightly. |
| astrophile User ID: 223298 10/29/2007 6:42 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote | From the Astrodienst forum, here's a NASA Ephemeris for Comet 17P/Holmes. "60" = 0 degrees Gemini:
17P/Holmes
2007-Oct-20 67.9589
2007-Oct-21 67.8596
2007-Oct-22 67.7525
2007-Oct-23 67.6379
2007-Oct-24 67.5157
2007-Oct-25 67.3862
2007-Oct-26 67.2494
2007-Oct-27 67.1057
2007-Oct-28 66.9550
2007-Oct-29 66.7977
2007-Oct-30 66.6338
2007-Oct-31 66.4635
2007-Nov-01 66.2870
2007-Nov-02 66.1046
2007-Nov-03 65.9165
2007-Nov-04 65.7229
2007-Nov-05 65.5241
2007-Nov-06 65.3203
2007-Nov-07 65.1120
2007-Nov-08 64.8993
2007-Nov-09 64.6826
2007-Nov-10 64.4622
2007-Nov-11 64.2385
2007-Nov-12 64.0117
2007-Nov-13 63.7823
2007-Nov-14 63.5505 |
| JCD User ID: 188983 10/29/2007 6:42 PM
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i am so not an astronomer, but my take on the thing is it is coming at us but not in the killrock mode. i think of it as the big change, or as an astute poster calls it, Homes. no way do i think its a comet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318941
Well I was trying not to be woo-woo so I'll just mention it this once. The only dream I ever had about a 'comet' or what I thought was a comet, it was named daniel. That is why I asked who it was named after. No it wasn't a killrock. Thanks 318941. Things change when you least expect it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74029 10/29/2007 6:47 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote | not going through all 40 something pages I took the liberty of emailing nasa(not sure if anyone here has yet) feel free to do the same let's make them talk/comment on this
(202) 358-0001 (Office)
(202) 358-3469 (Fax)
public-inquiries@hq.nasa.gov
if or when I get a response I will post it here |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 319086 10/29/2007 6:49 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
i am so not an astronomer, but my take on the thing is it is coming at us but not in the killrock mode. i think of it as the big change, or as an astute poster calls it, Homes. no way do i think its a comet.
Well I was trying not to be woo-woo so I'll just mention it this once. The only dream I ever had about a 'comet' or what I thought was a comet, it was named daniel. That is why I asked who it was named after. No it wasn't a killrock. Thanks 318941. Quoting: JCD
Maybe you should re read Daniel. Just a thought. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 319086 10/29/2007 6:52 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote | maybe Im stretching this one too much but here goes. Comet Holmes comes to mind Sherlock Holmes. Sher lock. Shear Lock, Break Locks = To Free.
There is another constellation now that also shows the same event. The shephard that frees the flock. |
| McDonald User ID: 319166 10/29/2007 7:00 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote | Checkin' out in Western Portugal
Holmes not visible tonight due to cludness
Keepin' you guy's up-to-date |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 318929 10/29/2007 7:02 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
What would make a comet explode in this fashion?
The answer may be sinkholes. There is growing evidence that some comets and asteroids may have a porous internal structure akin to, say, swiss cheese or a honycomb. Suppose one of the chambers of the honycomb suddenly collapsed, exposing many square kilometers of fresh cometary ice to sunlight for the first time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 247321
"Sinkholes" "cometary ice" - come on.. These comets are even farther away from the sun than earth is when they start producing comas and halos.
In the case of Holmes it was almost like someone switched the light on, then all of a sudden the coma expands to the size of Jupiter in a few hours! This comet material must be more than a little volatile to expand so quickly and so far.
There must be other things going on than just sunlight heating up some snow... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 286176 10/29/2007 7:04 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
i am so not an astronomer, but my take on the thing is it is coming at us but not in the killrock mode. i think of it as the big change, or as an astute poster calls it, Homes. no way do i think its a comet.
Well I was trying not to be woo-woo so I'll just mention it this once. The only dream I ever had about a 'comet' or what I thought was a comet, it was named daniel. That is why I asked who it was named after. No it wasn't a killrock. Thanks 318941.
Maybe you should re read Daniel. Just a thought. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 319086
Thanks, I'm not the AC, but I'm checking it out. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 318941 10/29/2007 7:12 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
i am so not an astronomer, but my take on the thing is it is coming at us but not in the killrock mode. i think of it as the big change, or as an astute poster calls it, Homes. no way do i think its a comet.
Well I was trying not to be woo-woo so I'll just mention it this once. The only dream I ever had about a 'comet' or what I thought was a comet, it was named daniel. That is why I asked who it was named after. No it wasn't a killrock. Thanks 318941. Quoting: JCD i dont think anyone could be a woo woo about this thing cause its a woo woo in its self! the name daniel is signif. in the prophetic world. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 318941 10/29/2007 7:13 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
maybe Im stretching this one too much but here goes. Comet Holmes comes to mind Sherlock Holmes. Sher lock. Shear Lock, Break Locks = To Free.
There is another constellation now that also shows the same event. The shephard that frees the flock. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 319086 i think thats cool. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 318941 10/29/2007 7:14 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
What would make a comet explode in this fashion?
The answer may be sinkholes. There is growing evidence that some comets and asteroids may have a porous internal structure akin to, say, swiss cheese or a honycomb. Suppose one of the chambers of the honycomb suddenly collapsed, exposing many square kilometers of fresh cometary ice to sunlight for the first time.
"Sinkholes" "cometary ice" - come on.. These comets are even farther away from the sun than earth is when they start producing comas and halos.
In the case of Holmes it was almost like someone switched the light on, then all of a sudden the coma expands to the size of Jupiter in a few hours! This comet material must be more than a little volatile to expand so quickly and so far.
There must be other things going on than just sunlight heating up some snow... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318929 someone jokingly mentioned that it was like one of those tiny sponge toys that ya put in water and it expands, but the more i thought about it, the more it seemed like a viable, albeit theory. |
| SatiricAxiom User ID: 292560 10/29/2007 7:17 PM
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Awesome,OP! "It isn't about what you & I think, it's about what is." |
| holy ufoly User ID: 318941 10/29/2007 7:18 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote | hubble wrote back today and explained what we pretty much knew about sattelite activities, said it was not the hubblecraft. strange, the guy who told me he saw it on the news report said it was in the nw sky and thats where they were moving it from, and that is where i saw it. lucky guess, i guess, and the jerk was just yanking my chain. so i guess hubble is cleared of any covert coverups on this one. i'm talking about the moving star, not the so called comet. |
| subplasma User ID: 319178 10/29/2007 7:22 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Could that be like the sign in the sky mentioned in the prophecies?
Like THE sign in the sky?
This thing is freaking me out!!!
What if it explodes and how near does it come to earth anyway?
The rain of fire if it explodes?
It looks as if it's getting closer and closer!!!
Kinda like scaring the living shit outta me!
We're fucked!!!
What the fuck is this thing??
EVERYONE LOOK AT THE SKY!!!
THIS IS NOT A COMET!!
IT'S TIME TO WAKE UP THE NEIGHBOURS!!!
THIS IS A SIGN!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317905
hey, man
raining fire...
that shit already went down in san diego just days ago...
personally, i've been really nervous about something lately and i don't understand what it is. then all these strange things begin happening.
strange...
i wonder if this forum will be found one day thousands of years from now and people will try to imagine just what we felt like during our last ____ on earth, knowing that it's our last.
well. don't go quitting your job i guess. (this is advice to myself) every day we live is the last of that day. like, october 29 2007 will never happen again (under normal circumstances anyway). so live it like its your last. appreciate it. maybe this is just a wake up call... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 319168 10/29/2007 7:24 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
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| A_G1RL User ID: 273050 10/29/2007 7:25 PM
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i keep screwing up when i try to quote someone..the person who said they refuse to call it a comet anymore, me too. i will hereby call it homes too, cause i reckon i'm going home at last. that was a well said post, nice to read ya. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318941
That's ok AC, let me just give you a tip.....when you quote someone at the top of the post it says quote and then who it is. The body of their quote appears after that and you can delete whatever you would like so that you can focus on a certain statement if you'd like. It is then followed at the bottom by [ / quote ]. Just be sure that whatever you type is AFTER that /quote thing.
Also, you have been quite a source of info on this thread and it is hard to keep the ACs straight. Above your post it says 'User Name'. You can delete that and type in whatever name you would like. You don't have to be a member to do that. So go ahead and make yourself up a name and then I can instantly tell that it is you. [Edit, ahhh I see that you did holy ufoy... nice to see ya]
It's dark out here, so I'm going out to look for HOMES and the nothubble. "When freedom is at stake, silence is not golden....it's yellow" ?
[link to BoldVoices.TV] |
| JCD User ID: 188983 10/29/2007 7:26 PM
 | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote | Yeah. Re-reading Daniel is not a bad idea. Maybe something new will 'hit' me. Good suggestion. Things change when you least expect it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 319171 10/29/2007 7:35 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote | If you mess with the letters in HOLMES, you can find ELOHM, or ELOHIM - minus the "S".
ELOHIM is a powerful word, Hebrew for "God" and used over 2000 times in the Bible, I believe.
Maybe ELOHM, not spelled correctly, is the false Christ? |
| 89446 User ID: 252155 10/29/2007 7:35 PM
 | | 89446 User ID: 252155 10/29/2007 7:40 PM
 | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote | Wow, AC 319171 we posted that at the exact same time. Freaky. This thread is much too freaky. Got to go to sleep. Bye all. |
| FellowTexan User ID: 319154 10/29/2007 7:46 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
i am so not an astronomer, but my take on the thing is it is coming at us but not in the killrock mode. i think of it as the big change, or as an astute poster calls it, Homes. no way do i think its a comet.
Well I was trying not to be woo-woo so I'll just mention it this once. The only dream I ever had about a 'comet' or what I thought was a comet, it was named daniel. That is why I asked who it was named after. No it wasn't a killrock. Thanks 318941.
i dont think anyone could be a woo woo about this thing cause its a woo woo in its self! the name daniel is signif. in the prophetic world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318941
My name is Daniel and I also named my son Daniel. Now I know why...LOL |
| MATT.. User ID: 312039 10/29/2007 8:01 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote | VOTING UP and BUMPING
Congats 'FREE FLOW'...
1313 replies (+)
Nearing 50,000 reads! 
MATT..
.. |
| FreeFlow User ID: 51202 10/29/2007 8:02 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote | This graph says its brightness was constant until the day before, it wasn't updated today yet so we have to wait how it will develop:
[link to www.aerith.net]
Btw MATT you brought me the opportunity to say it again:
Thanks to every poster here, without you all this thread would be nothing ...
;flower: I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 317575 10/29/2007 8:05 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote | "same stuff was happening five years ago, nothing ever changes."
The antichrist said he would bring Peace to Iraq. Five years ago, this had not happened, but now. there are " rest in Peace " signs all over Iraq. |
| FreeFlow User ID: 51202 10/29/2007 8:06 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
The antichrist said he would bring Peace to Iraq. Five years ago, this had not happened, but now. there are " rest in Peace " signs all over Iraq. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317575
So you were trusting the anti-christ?
No wonder ... lol. I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 318230 10/29/2007 8:29 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote | Now thats freaky HOLMES=ELOHM Very interesting. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 319171 10/29/2007 8:29 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Wow, AC 319171 we posted that at the exact same time. Freaky. This thread is much too freaky. Got to go to sleep. Bye all. Quoting: 89446
Coooollll.....
Check this out: ELOHMS = HOLMES
I found this, from the last post on the link below:
“The Egyptians, on the other hand, knew the true god and he is called Ra and Osiris (Anu and Enki). These gods have been dubbed 'heathen' by the later Hebrews and Christians who were/are afraid of their god who they called Jehovah. This god causes war, strife, incest and murder. It's time you knew who and what he really is. He was actually the leader of the band of fallen angels also known as ELOHMS or Nephilim...'US'”
“The black-haired people that lived by the Nile were descendents of the Nephilim. The fallen angles mated with human women and created the half human Giants who lived in the fertile-crescent area, and of whom Greek legends are told. (Genesis 1:6.) This is taken lightly by todays historians but there seems to be proof it is true. The 'caretakers of the knowledge' were called 'the Umosejhe' , by the Egyptians, and they were children and grand children of the Nephilim.”
You may want to peruse the www.vivamalta.org website, interesting info in there on Norman Lowell and Nova Europa, first time I’ve ever heard about that. According to Wikipedia, the goal of Nova Europa is “to unite all European natives under one flag, hence the name "Imperium Europa" (Empire Europe), leading to "a Europid bond forged through Spirituality closely followed by Race, nurtured through High culture, protected by High Politics, enforced by the The Elite."
[link to www.vivamalta.org] |
| boy User ID: 318941 10/29/2007 8:37 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote | ok girl, i'll do a name, i like to lay low, so low i turn off my modem everynite so my id will change. but maybe its time to come out of the closet. my sis and i (also fem.) have called each other boy forever, wierd huh. so hereafter i will be boy, who refuses to call the object a comet hereafter... who unwittingly started a rumour about the hubblecraft people and has now cleared it. and i still havent seen the comet cause its too hilly and treeful here. thanx for the posting/quote tip. now if i can only pull it off. the cutting and pasting seems way out of my realm, dont even try to tell me. |
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