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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 176293
10/30/2007 3:16 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I don't want to sound all woo-woo (again), but... The famous Planet X is supposed to have a massive dustcloud around it, along with a bunch of moons circulating it, AND it should be heading towards the earth at a great speed.
Umm... am I the only one who thinks this fits all of that somewhat perfectly..? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 313468
10/30/2007 3:23 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
isnt it 5 yrs too early? |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
10/30/2007 3:24 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
[ link to www.spaceweather.com]
I don't want to sound all woo-woo (again), but... The famous Planet X is supposed to have a massive dustcloud around it, along with a bunch of moons circulating it, AND it should be heading towards the earth at a great speed.
Umm... am I the only one who thinks this fits all of that somewhat perfectly..?
No it does not fit, 17/P was a visible comet in the first place, NOT a fairy planet that's been hanging around for four years, (hanging in Nancy's mind). |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 176293
10/30/2007 3:26 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
isnt it 5 yrs too early? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 313468
5 Years too early for what? Can someone please tell me why is it carved in stone that "the" year is 2012. We are not even sure what year it is now FFS!
And please, I've heard all about the famous mayan calendar. Is there anything else? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 313468
10/30/2007 3:27 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
why 2007? why not 3007? 4007? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 176293
10/30/2007 3:32 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
[ link to www.spaceweather.com]
I don't want to sound all woo-woo (again), but... The famous Planet X is supposed to have a massive dustcloud around it, along with a bunch of moons circulating it, AND it should be heading towards the earth at a great speed.
Umm... am I the only one who thinks this fits all of that somewhat perfectly..?
No it does not fit, 17/P was a visible comet in the first place, NOT a fairy planet that's been hanging around for four years, (hanging in Nancy's mind).
Will you please forget about Nancy already, she calculated 2+2 and got 4,5 as a result. That does not mean that Planet X couldn't be real, and it couldn't be this one. If some loser claims that he is the president of the US, it doesn't mean that the president of the US does not exist at all.
When has this been "officially" a comet? We've seen it before, sure, and we've guessed that it must be a comet because we always try to explain everyhing with existing "knowledge", but are we sure that it is a comet? It seems even the astronomers don't know what it is.
For the first time ever, I'm REALLY seeing something that looks like good old-fashioned cosmic doom. Which is actually scaring me a bit. |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
10/30/2007 3:34 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
'Comet' Holmes shall be as bright as the moon tommorow (October 31st) nad change the world forever...
Are you out of your mind? As bright as the moon in two days?
Come one! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 291489
It's fairly simple, the original comet was about 1 square mile by about 3/4 of a mile, so it ran into a meteor, much like a bullet Vs a rock melon, BANG!, so we now have an expanding cloud of comet "bits" some could be quite big, without gravity and friction the bits keep going in the direction they were ejected by the "explosion", so you have a "cloud", note the cloud is thinning as it expands, the comet is likely to have been going round and round the sun for millions of years and it's luck ran out.
The greater concern is the ejected "bits", where are they going and will the earth run into them? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 176293
10/30/2007 3:35 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
why 2007? why not 3007? 4007? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 313468
Honestly, I couldn't care less about our pathetic and primitive year-counting. I've always known it is just something artificial built on nothing = it's nothing. No importance on anything on this planet.
I'm seeing now something really weird up in the sky. That's the biggest "sign" I've seen so far in my life, I just don't care what year it is. |
| 89446
User ID: 252155
10/30/2007 3:38 AM
 | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193612
10/30/2007 3:39 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
[ link to www.spaceweather.com]
I don't want to sound all woo-woo (again), but... The famous Planet X is supposed to have a massive dustcloud around it, along with a bunch of moons circulating it, AND it should be heading towards the earth at a great speed.
Umm... am I the only one who thinks this fits all of that somewhat perfectly..?
No it does not fit, 17/P was a visible comet in the first place, NOT a fairy planet that's been hanging around for four years, (hanging in Nancy's mind).
Will you please forget about Nancy already, she calculated 2+2 and got 4,5 as a result. That does not mean that Planet X couldn't be real, and it couldn't be this one. If some loser claims that he is the president of the US, it doesn't mean that the president of the US does not exist at all.
When has this been "officially" a comet? We've seen it before, sure, and we've guessed that it must be a comet because we always try to explain everyhing with existing "knowledge", but are we sure that it is a comet? It seems even the astronomers don't know what it is.
For the first time ever, I'm REALLY seeing something that looks like good old-fashioned cosmic doom. Which is actually scaring me a bit.
So you're scared about this 'thing'?
Please explain why people are getting a bit freaked about this thing.
Please explain why you think this is abnormal.
Thanks. |
| shavas
User ID: 240966
10/30/2007 3:45 AM
 | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I just went outside and found it with a 10x25 binocular. Looked like a diffuse disk, was pretty easy to find. I could see it pretty easily with naked eye as well. Just had to look up high enough as it was at about 74 deg alt. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 311264
10/30/2007 3:46 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This is the best doom since the Galactic Tsunami. Only problem is this seems too real. Are the Hopi predictions true. Is the current rush to world war three just a distraction for the masses to occupy their minds with man made doom? Would humans in general be able to wrap their minds around an incoming celestial event that will drawf any thing in known human history? This comet is obviously something different in the skies. |
| * <--- Star of Destiny
User ID: 279402
10/30/2007 3:49 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This is the best doom since the Galactic Tsunami. Only problem is this seems too real. Are the Hopi predictions true. Is the current rush to world war three just a distraction for the masses to occupy their minds with man made doom? Would humans in general be able to wrap their minds around an incoming celestial event that will drawf any thing in known human history? This comet is obviously something different in the skies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 311264
Soooonnnnnn sooonnnn !!!!!!!! OMG soooo soon !!!!!!!!
Woooo hooooo !!!!!! : )
I love you all !!!!
Freedom !!!!!! Soon !!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193612
10/30/2007 3:55 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This is the best doom since the Galactic Tsunami. Only problem is this seems too real. Are the Hopi predictions true. Is the current rush to world war three just a distraction for the masses to occupy their minds with man made doom? Would humans in general be able to wrap their minds around an incoming celestial event that will drawf any thing in known human history? This comet is obviously something different in the skies.
Soooonnnnnn sooonnnn !!!!!!!! OMG soooo soon !!!!!!!!
Woooo hooooo !!!!!! : )
I love you all !!!!
Freedom !!!!!! Soon !!!!! Quoting: * <--- Star of Destiny 279402
 |
| astrophile
User ID: 319331
10/30/2007 3:55 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
isnt it 5 yrs too early? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 313468
Maybe not. Hunab ku might be a second Sun located 20 degrees off the present-day Sun. Julian and Gregorian calendars may be off. Maybe, might be. Just a thought. |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
10/30/2007 4:03 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Here is the impact calculator, I have used a medium 100m chunk of comet as a starting point here is the data for a land impact.
Your Inputs:
Distance from Impact: 100.00 km = 62.10 miles
Projectile Diameter: 100.00 m = 328.00 ft = 0.06 miles
Projectile Density: 3000 kg/m3
Impact Velocity: 60.00 km/s = 37.26 miles/s
Impact Angle: 80 degrees
Target Density: 2500 kg/m3
Target Type: Sedimentary Rock
Atmospheric Entry:
The projectile begins to breakup at an altitude of 74200 meters = 243000 ft
The projectile reaches the ground in a broken condition. The mass of projectile strikes the surface at velocity 40.7 km/s = 25.3 miles/s
The impact energy is 1.30 x 1018 Joules = 3.10 x 102MegaTons.
The broken projectile fragments strike the ground in an ellipse of dimension 0.434 km by 0.427 km
Major Global Changes:
The Earth is not strongly disturbed by the impact and loses negligible mass.
The impact does not make a noticeable change in the Earth's rotation period or the tilt of its axis.
The impact does not shift the Earth's orbit noticeably.
Final Crater Diameter: 3.32 km = 2.06 miles
Final Crater Depth: 0.425 km = 0.264 miles
The crater formed is a complex crater.
The volume of the target melted or vaporized is 0.0114 km3 = 0.00273 miles3
Roughly half the melt remains in the crater
Seismic Effects:
What does this mean?
The major seismic shaking will arrive at approximately 20 seconds.
Richter Scale Magnitude: 6.3
Mercalli Scale Intensity at a distance of 100 km:
[link to www.lpl.arizona.edu] |
| Annunaki
User ID: 298419
10/30/2007 5:04 AM
 | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
I just got my first glimpse of it tonight as well through 16X50 Bushnell Binoculars. Its a windy night down here in Ft. Lauderdale, and looking straight overhead the moon looks amazing as the clouds wiz by in front of it. Been pretty cloudy and rainy since Holmes exploded. The Pleiades look awesome, so does orion towards the South overhead. to the south of the moon looks like Mars - red planet. Then to the north east at about 75 degrees is this fuzzy ball. At first I thought it was bright star obscured behind a rushing wisp of cloud, but it didn't change - unbelievable. That thing must look awesome away from all the light pollution. What a strange sight. No wonder everyone is going on about it being a harbinger of DOOM. Weirdest comet I've ever seen and right in time for Samhane. It looks very similar to the Orion nebula and just as big. Really makes you wonder... |
| * <--- Star of Destiny
User ID: 279402
10/30/2007 5:16 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Ive been telling people of events like this since i have been coming here to GLP....under my various names that im sure some here are aware of : ) haaaaaa ..told you so.
Just wait and see what is coming ....to say you will be amazed is an under statement. No matter how skeptical you are ...you will be amazed.
I will not give up the dream ...never. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319344
10/30/2007 5:48 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Thats not even bloody funny.
If those shots are from 2002..... well shiver me timbers thats reall eerie. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319344
10/30/2007 5:53 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
[link to www.americanchronicle.com]
Hey this writers been reading our thread ! We have all of it right here on GLP, the fact that some one here said it may be a 'fake star' i.e. man made event like wherner von Braun said in an aim to weaponise space, a possible retrun of nirabu, mega doom as its heading our way........
Dammit, we just gave a writer an entire piece from our doomer ramblings and astute observations of our universe.
Go Go GLP'ers ! |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/30/2007 5:55 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Hey all!!!
[link to spaceweather.com]
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318163
10/30/2007 5:58 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
professor james mccanney says himself planets can enter our solar system as comets, and indeed veuns was a comet. Comets are not dirty LITTLE snowballs. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319344
10/30/2007 5:59 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Holy shmoley!
Thats a fantastic pic... but, but.... it don't look ike no damn comet!
Just what the frigging hell is going on up there ?
I really am getting all doomy feelings from this sucker. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/30/2007 6:04 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
More of the latest pics:
[link to spaceweather.com]
[link to spaceweather.com]
Holy shmoley!
Thats a fantastic pic... but, but.... it don't look ike no damn comet!
Just what the frigging hell is going on up there ?
I really am getting all doomy feelings from this sucker. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 319344
You can say that loud!
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318163
10/30/2007 6:05 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
i have a pair of 20X80! binoculars with fully multicoated glass optics.
Brought them after i was very disappointed at the performance of my clestron 4.5" reflector. |
| * <--- Star of Destiny
User ID: 279402
10/30/2007 6:10 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Oh in case anyone has forgotten ....Venus is still an amazingly bright object in space as well : ) LOL
Ce ya later everyone : )
peaceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!!! : ) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 227259
10/30/2007 6:11 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Make peace with yourself and enjoy the spectacle.
If this is 150 million light years away(?) then we're looking into the past? |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/30/2007 6:13 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Make peace with yourself and enjoy the spectacle.
If this is 150 million light years away(?) then we're looking into the past? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 227259
Light years, who said that?
It's only 150 million miles, means about ten light MINUTES!
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 176293
10/30/2007 6:14 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Yup. It looks so much like computer generated image, and we all know it's not. And I'm pretty sure this thing does have a tail. Might be even a long one. It's just that we cannot see it from this angle...
Also a several kilometers long train on a straight track - when viewed from the tracks in the front (far away) - looks like a small dot.
What was the story about the blue cachina? This looks like it's getting really blue. And coming really close. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/30/2007 6:17 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
That looks shows as if the inner dust cloud is dissipating and is starting to get left behind on the comet's path:
[link to img66.imageshack.us]
Most likely it will form a tail
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
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