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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319344
10/30/2007 6:20 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Ten light minutes.
Thats EXTREMELY sobering thought.
What is also sobering is that there are no signs of those massive shards that were thrown off into the solar system, none at all, and they came iNTO the system, not out and away.
We sure do live in interesting times. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/30/2007 6:26 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 176293
Yeah!
Btw Holmes is getting nearer for awhile indeed but not cause it's coming to us but earth is taking over due to earth's faster spin around the sun, actually it's kind of running parallel to earth currently.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
10/30/2007 6:26 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
That looks shows as if the inner dust cloud is dissipating and is starting to get left behind on the comet's path:
[ link to img66.imageshack.us]
Most likely it will form a tail
See my previous post. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 176293
10/30/2007 6:27 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Ten light minutes.
Thats EXTREMELY sobering thought.
What is also sobering is that there are no signs of those massive shards that were thrown off into the solar system, none at all, and they came iNTO the system, not out and away.
We sure do live in interesting times. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 319344
And just for reference, the sun is only 8 light minutes away from us. So if the 10 minutes is accurate, then this thing is well within our solar system. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318163
10/30/2007 6:29 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This is quite amusing [link to www.spaceweather.com]
"This is a 45 minute exposure (9x5 minute exposures) extreme processed to reveal the tail of comet 17P/Holmes. It's extremely faint but is there heading off to the upper right of the coma in this image".
Firstly, if you process something enough in photoshop you will eventually get what you are looking for suce as light patches in a dark sky. This astronomer needs to face facts, there is no tail!!!
its loosing its comet characteristics and becoming a planet, just like venus did.
This is planet Niburu. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/30/2007 6:33 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Quoting: Prof-Rabbit 148352
You mean debris will hit us?
Most unlikely ...
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319344
10/30/2007 6:35 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
[link to www.youtube.com]
Now this, this is the total and utter dogs b######s of VIDEO FOOTAGE of Holmes from a huge amateur telescope.
Watch as he switches filters to show the core of the comet, and then takes off the filter....
Look at the light it is giving out ! The filters block out huge amounts, and as he takes the filter off.....
Its freaking awesome.
One for my 'keep' collection to show folks. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318163
10/30/2007 6:36 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Make peace with yourself and enjoy the spectacle.
If this is 150 million light years away(?) then we're looking into the past? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 227259
ROFL!! 150mill ly |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/30/2007 6:38 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 319344
Very fascinating, thanks!
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 300516
10/30/2007 6:54 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This thing is scaring me with it sinrease in size AND brightness...October 31st shit will hit the fan with this 'comet' |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/30/2007 6:59 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This thing is scaring me with it sinrease in size AND brightness...October 31st shit will hit the fan with this 'comet' Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300516
Whatever will happen on the 31. it cannot have anything to do with this comet as it's much too far away for debris to hit ....
The first debris ejected from the comet five days ago would have to race with around 2500,000 mph through space to make an impact tomorrow, that's an impossibility IMO.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Moonscapes
User ID: 274922
10/30/2007 7:00 AM
 | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This is turning out to be quite the comet!
Do not dismiss your dreams.
To be without dreams is to be without hope.
To be without hope is to be without purpose. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319344
10/30/2007 7:02 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
You know I am still searching for any updated images of that huge 'shard' of debris that clattered off into our solar system.
There are only two pictures of it as far as i am aware, and they both show it as it is racing away from the comet.
Now, I know its probable that this shard will be a darker object, many times smaller, but, its making me feel uncomfortable knowing that it was flung into our solar system and not away.
Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I would like folks to keep an eye out for any pics of it if any surface.
Mega kudos for the awesome thread FREE FLOW. |
| hatch battener
User ID: 319351
10/30/2007 7:03 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This picture lends credence to the theory that comet Holmes is not your ordinary comet.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, the extraordinary outburst of comet Holmes, perhaps could be attributed to a antimatter reaction, or possibly nuclear reaction, or of course the longstanding electrical theory of the universe, that it's some kind of electrical discharge going on.
Another possibility that certainly can't be ruled out, is "comet Holmes" is pure cover story.
That this is fact an incoming comet, and whatever the powers that be are telling you about "comet Holmes" is a lie.
If there was the doomday comet headed inevitably towards Earth to destroy all traces of civilisation, do you think they would have George Bush go on TV and make a panicky, incoherant announcement about it?
No! No! No! You would have to keep a lid on it!
So TPTB can get there own ducks in a row, before the cometary Day of Reckoning begins.
And in the interest of overall public safety, would you warn about such a situation right away anyways? Untold thousands would no doubt be killed in the ensuing chaos and panic.
And if hypothetically, George Bush were to make the announcement, that the doomsday rock would soon be destroying all civilisation, I'd think you normally would want to be 100% sure about that assertion. If you weren't, you could be responsible from the ensuing havoc that would result from such an announcement.
And let's say TPTB had been preparing for this doomsday comet out of the blue for decades. And they had the cover story all ready ahead of time. Looking through the history of comets, comet Holmes would certainly be an outstanding candidate for a cover story. Comet Holmes flared up dramatically in brightness in 1892, to become a naked eye object overnight, it caused quite a sensation back then, some even thought it might hit the Earth! So with it's history, comet Holmes has always been a perfect cover story for the doomsday comet out of the blue.
And from my viewing it from late last week until early this morning, it does look exactly like a comet that is headed straight for the Earth!! There's no denying that!
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 176293
10/30/2007 7:04 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This thing is scaring me with it sinrease in size AND brightness...October 31st shit will hit the fan with this 'comet'
Whatever will happen on the 31. it cannot have anything to do with this comet as it's much too far away for debris to hit ....
The first debris ejected from the comet five days ago would have to race with around 2500,000 mph through space to make an impact tomorrow, that's an impossibility IMO. Quoting: FreeFlow
That would be an impossible speed to you in space? That's only less than 1200km per second, actually it's about 0,35% of lightspeed.
Also seeing how fast it grows in our sky, I wouldn't say that an impact of some level couldn't be possible within 36-48 hours. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319344
10/30/2007 7:04 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
This is turning out to be quite the comet! Quoting: Moonscapes
Isn't it just !
Oh and FREE FLOW, I still say this time next year we will be in for a treat in the skys as we hit the debris trail from this mega out burst. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 300516
10/30/2007 7:04 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
[link to www.greatdreams.com]
scroll to the bottom of the page people and there are some comet predictions, which MAY or MAY NOT concern our scary friend in the sky now |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/30/2007 7:05 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
.............
Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I would like folks to keep an eye out for any pics of it if any surface.
Mega kudos for the awesome thread FREE FLOW. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 319344
Thanks AC, it's a pleasure to communicate with you all!
I only know of the two pics you mentioned, nothing new for me to find either.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 300516
10/30/2007 7:07 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
[ link to www.greatdreams.com]
scroll to the bottom of the page people and there are some comet predictions, which MAY or MAY NOT concern our scary friend in the sky now
"The comet of Nostradamus ("great star") will light up the skies for a week before it strikes Earth. To avoid the approaching calamity, the pope will flee the Vatican. Concern for the pope's safety would be well justified because a straight line drawn from southern France, where the comet's effects are first noted (Quatrain I-46, page 3), to the Aegean, goes right over Rome. Equally striking is the Seer's use of the word "swarm," because that is just what a comet is: a swarm of matter. As it nears the Earth, the comet will be comparable in brightness to the sun. The "big mastiff" could have some abstract meaning, but it might also be straightforward, i.e., this pope will own a large pet guard dog."
anyone know what the pope is doing now? The vatican do have all of nostradamus' predictions in their possesion |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/30/2007 7:08 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Isn't it just !
Oh and FREE FLOW, I still say this time next year we will be in for a treat in the skys as we hit the debris trail from this mega out burst. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 319344
Yes next year could well be, or the other case would be that comet is doing a miracle on earth much earlier through particles which travel much faster or an unknown energy field ...
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| TPTB
User ID: 289523
10/30/2007 7:11 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
No need to panic, that is, untill it looks as big as say, 1/4 the size of the moon..
Now if it starts looking big, like that, then you can panic.
The voice of reason, dictates, that this is still just another Sign, in the Heavens, before the great and Terrible Day of the LORD GOD.
But keep an eye on it ! |
| BadMoonRising
User ID: 199233
10/30/2007 7:13 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Hey all!!!
[ link to spaceweather.com]
This picture lends credence to the theory that comet Holmes is not your ordinary comet.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, the extraordinary outburst of comet Holmes, perhaps could be attributed to a antimatter reaction, or possibly nuclear reaction, or of course the longstanding electrical theory of the universe, that it's some kind of electrical discharge going on.
Another possibility that certainly can't be ruled out, is "comet Holmes" is pure cover story.
That this is fact an incoming comet, and whatever the powers that be are telling you about "comet Holmes" is a lie.
If there was the doomday comet headed inevitably towards Earth to destroy all traces of civilisation, do you think they would have George Bush go on TV and make a panicky, incoherant announcement about it?
No! No! No! You would have to keep a lid on it!
So TPTB can get there own ducks in a row, before the cometary Day of Reckoning begins.
And in the interest of overall public safety, would you warn about such a situation right away anyways? Untold thousands would no doubt be killed in the ensuing chaos and panic.
And if hypothetically, George Bush were to make the announcement, that the doomsday rock would soon be destroying all civilisation, I'd think you normally would want to be 100% sure about that assertion. If you weren't, you could be responsible from the ensuing havoc that would result from such an announcement.
And let's say TPTB had been preparing for this doomsday comet out of the blue for decades. And they had the cover story all ready ahead of time. Looking through the history of comets, comet Holmes would certainly be an outstanding candidate for a cover story. Comet Holmes flared up dramatically in brightness in 1892, to become a naked eye object overnight, it caused quite a sensation back then, some even thought it might hit the Earth! So with it's history, comet Holmes has always been a perfect cover story for the doomsday comet out of the blue.
And from my viewing it from late last week until early this morning, it does look exactly like a comet that is headed straight for the Earth!! There's no denying that!
An excellent observation.
Why the hell are the mainstream media not reporting this? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316037
10/30/2007 7:13 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
According to comet expert, John Bortle, ” . . . the parallels between the current outburst of P/Holmes and the 1892 event are quite extraordinary. Following the initial stages of the 1892 outburst, the comet’s total magnitude faded only very slowly and it remained visible to the unaided eye for about 3 weeks. During this interval the coma expanded dramatically (as might be expected). One can anticipate that the same general evolution will occur this time.”
Bortle adds: “I would also call observers’ attention to the fact that P/Holmes underwent a second outburst (something that has been observed in conjunction with several other outbursting comets), of almost equal amplitude to the first one, about 75 days following its 1892 November brightening. Thus, I would urge everyone to watch very carefully for a possible repeat of this secondary event about the turn of the year.” |
| BadMoonRising
User ID: 199233
10/30/2007 7:17 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Any record of this 'comet' around 1777? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319344
10/30/2007 7:19 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Bortle adds: “I would also call observers’ attention to the fact that P/Holmes underwent a second outburst (something that has been observed in conjunction with several other outbursting comets), of almost equal amplitude to the first one, about 75 days following its 1892 November brightening. Thus, I would urge everyone to watch very carefully for a possible repeat of this secondary event about the turn of the year.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 316037
No way. If this gets brighter during December time, i'm heading for the hills.
I'm normally the one trying to calm doomers, but now, now i'm not so sure about it all.
This to me has doom written all over it. |
| BadMoonRising
User ID: 199233
10/30/2007 7:19 AM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 315357
10/30/2007 7:25 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
why ban me? |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/30/2007 7:27 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
why ban me? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 315357
The autobot of GLP is a but itchy at times, email a mod, I think they will fix that asap ...
Most mods have an addy in their signature.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319344
10/30/2007 7:27 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Quoting: BadMoonRising 199233
1777 comet disrupted hey ?
Now, this deserves mega applause. Great find, very interesting indeed. |
| BadMoonRising
User ID: 199233
10/30/2007 7:37 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Take a look at this:
[ link to books.google.com]
1777 comet disrupted hey ?
Now, this deserves mega applause. Great find, very interesting indeed.
Just to clarify:
1777 + 115 = 1892 + 115 = 2007 |
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