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| boy
User ID: 318941
10/30/2007 11:41 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Quote from another thread….thought you all would like to see it…
Quote…
The comet’s location is close to the constellation Perseus..near the star “Mirphak”, which is the “belly” or “soul” area of said constellation.
Yes, one could say Perseus “Soul” is on fire….
Peace Quoting: Michael 181321 |
| boy
User ID: 318941
10/30/2007 11:44 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
from the new title for the thread, i take it the comnot is brightening and biggening?
The halo + dust cloud is spreading and that makes it appear brighter apparently, tho no updates on the magnitude from today so far ... Quoting: FreeFlow
well it is certainly looking stranger today. |
| A_G1RL
User ID: 273050
10/30/2007 11:46 AM
 | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Concerning the found dates with comets..... This very well COULD be the same comet. However it isn't proof.
We have comets all the time. So, finding comets in historical writings shouldn't be strange.
Here's an example. I'm not stating this to be true just showing a point. Say I was to claim that the real orbit of the comet is only half of the 115 years and we just missed it or misunderstood last time that it was the same comet. So then we look up those years for comets and whalah... you are BOUND to find them. In this example, I looked up 1949 and 1950 and sure enough there were multiple comet postings for each year.
With so much stuff out there in space, how do we know FOR SURE what we are seeing is anything on a given orbit or something entirely new? Even taking into account that they have tried to figure out the orbits and speed, there are massive amounts of time that the objects are 'unseen' so who knows what hit them or pulled them. Orbits change, size changes, speed changes. It's not a nice neat little package that we think it is.
So in summary, finding the dates on the comet and then claiming this to be a 'nonevent'..... could be, but not completely proven by any means.
"When freedom is at stake, silence is not golden....it's yellow" ?
[link to BoldVoices.TV] |
| Dee
User ID: 536
10/30/2007 11:49 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
...... BADMOONRISING...........
Every 115 years this object gives off a show ? 115 years, as regular as clock work and yet we have no idea what so ever why.
Fascinating stuff.
Man this runs top favorite ever GLP thread up there with the Lucifer project thread.
all the 7's in this configuration make it even more omen-ness to me. it's been lurking, waiting for the 7's to add up... Quoting: boy 318941
Could you elaborate on those 7s I can't stop wondering about the Luciferic significance of this comet.
One reason it's happening so near the time the veils are at the thinest at Samhein factoring in The Head of Satan star Algol being crossed or X .ed out add a visible mass that was ejected is now missing from sight and possibly heading our way.
Geesh I just can't help but seriously ponder the prophetic significance of all this. The Bible says in Luke that Jesus said he saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven
Also Daniel reveals Satan's operates here as he has since the beginning, but, is actually thrown down to earth 3 1/2 years before the completion of the period called the Great Tribulation.
[link to www.lastdaysmystery.info] |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
10/30/2007 11:49 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
from the new title for the thread, i take it the comnot is brightening and biggening?
The halo + dust cloud is spreading and that makes it appear brighter apparently, tho no updates on the magnitude from today so far ...
well it is certainly looking stranger today. Quoting: boy 318941
As the "cloud" gets bigger there is more to reflect light, conversely as the "cloud" gets thinner in terms of particle density there will be more "space" in the center.
Hope that makes sense... |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/30/2007 11:51 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
As the "cloud" gets bigger there is more to reflect light, conversely as the "cloud" gets thinner in terms of particle density there will be more "space" in the center.
Hope that makes sense... Quoting: Prof-Rabbit 148352
Yes it does ...
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| boy
User ID: 318941
10/30/2007 11:52 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
i got kidded/lied to about the hubblecraft, which was actually the moving star, and the hubnot.
I never trust those who claim all is normal and explainable within the officially approved views of the world ... lol. Quoting: FreeFlow |
| A_G1RL
User ID: 273050
10/30/2007 11:55 AM
| | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Man this runs top favorite ever GLP thread up there with the Lucifer project thread.
all the 7's in this configuration make it even more omen-ness to me. it's been lurking, waiting for the 7's to add up...
------------------------------------------------
Could you elaborate on those 7s I can't stop wondering about the Luciferic significance of this comet. Quoting: Dee 536
I do not think that they boy is saying that the comnot has Luciferic significance.
What boy is referring to is the Lucifer Project.... here take a look.
[link to youtube.com]
"When freedom is at stake, silence is not golden....it's yellow" ?
[link to BoldVoices.TV] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318980
10/30/2007 11:59 AM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Concerning the found dates with comets..... This very well COULD be the same comet. However it isn't proof.
We have comets all the time. So, finding comets in historical writings shouldn't be strange.
Here's an example. I'm not stating this to be true just showing a point. Say I was to claim that the real orbit of the comet is only half of the 115 years and we just missed it or misunderstood last time that it was the same comet. Quoting: A_G1RL
Your first point is good A_GIRL there is zero evidence for the posts for a 115 period for this comet and 100% evidence for a 7 year period for this comet (it takes about 7 years to go round the Sun). The only connection between this comet and the number 115 is that it was first discovered in 1892 and in that year appeared to undergo a similar event to what is happening now. In all the times it has come back since it has not done anything very interesting. There are no recorded sightings of this comet prior to 1892 (which is probably due to it being faint almost all of the time, as it has been between 1892 and now).
Two brightening events do not make a pattern. |
| Supreme intelligence
User ID: 319476
10/30/2007 12:02 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Truth . according to a Gman
Based on my sources we've been preparing for a major comet
event since the the 1960s.
Scenario 1: " unquestionable impact "
Before any hostile violence breaks out due to the comet
craze, quarantine teams will release virus agents
neutralizing panic. Icbms will be launched as a preemptive
measure disabling all nations that pose a threat to the
United States. "Operation Phoenix," global starship
exodus of all undergroud bases ; which have been preparing
for impact since the 1800's. Comet hits Earth detroying
life as you know it. I get my paycheck.
Scenario 2 :" we don't make mistakes ," refer to scenario 1 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319336
10/30/2007 12:04 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Here is the impact calculator, I have used a medium 100m chunk of comet as a starting point here is the data for a land impact.
Your Inputs:
Distance from Impact: 100.00 km = 62.10 miles
Projectile Diameter: 100.00 m = 328.00 ft = 0.06 miles
Projectile Density: 3000 kg/m3
Impact Velocity: 60.00 km/s = 37.26 miles/s
Impact Angle: 80 degrees
Target Density: 2500 kg/m3
Target Type: Sedimentary Rock
Atmospheric Entry:
The projectile begins to breakup at an altitude of 74200 meters = 243000 ft
The projectile reaches the ground in a broken condition. The mass of projectile strikes the surface at velocity 40.7 km/s = 25.3 miles/s
The impact energy is 1.30 x 1018 Joules = 3.10 x 102MegaTons.
The broken projectile fragments strike the ground in an ellipse of dimension 0.434 km by 0.427 km
Major Global Changes:
The Earth is not strongly disturbed by the impact and loses negligible mass.
The impact does not make a noticeable change in the Earth's rotation period or the tilt of its axis.
The impact does not shift the Earth's orbit noticeably.
Final Crater Diameter: 3.32 km = 2.06 miles
Final Crater Depth: 0.425 km = 0.264 miles
The crater formed is a complex crater.
The volume of the target melted or vaporized is 0.0114 km3 = 0.00273 miles3
Roughly half the melt remains in the crater
Seismic Effects:
What does this mean?
The major seismic shaking will arrive at approximately 20 seconds.
Richter Scale Magnitude: 6.3
Mercalli Scale Intensity at a distance of 100 km:
[ link to www.lpl.arizona.edu]
Mathematical judgments are not judgments that fully encompass real objects, but rather are valid only within the ideal world of abstractions that we ourselves have conceptually separated off from the objects as one aspect of reality. Mathematics abstracts magnitude and number from things, establishes the completely ideal relationships between magnitudes and numbers, and hovers in this way in a pure world of thoughts. The things of reality, insofar as they are magnitude and number, allow one then to apply mathematical truths. It is therefore definitely an error to believe that one could grasp the whole of nature with mathematical judgments.
[link to wn.rsarchive.org] |
| astrophile
User ID: 319479
10/30/2007 12:11 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Quote from another thread….thought you all would like to see it…
Quote…
The comet’s location is close to the constellation Perseus..near the star “Mirphak”, which is the “belly” or “soul” area of said constellation.
Yes, one could say Perseus “Soul” is on fire….
Peace
yep, i'm inclined to agree with ya. Quoting: boy 318941
Fixed star: MIRFAK
Constellation: Alpha Perseus
Longitude 1900: 00GEM41. Longitude 2000: 02GEM05.
Declination 1900: +49.30'. Declination 2000: +49.52'.
Right ascension: 03h24m. Latitude: +30.07'.
Spectral class: F5. Magnitude: 1.9.
Suggested orb: 1 deg. approx. Planetary nature: Jup-Sat
History of the star: A brilliant lilac and ashy color star in the elbow of the Champion, Perseus.
Arabic Mirfak, Mirzac, Marfak or Al Mirfaq (1), "The elbow" of the Pleiades - i.e. next to the Pleiades. The title comes from the Arabians' Marfik al Thurayya, thus qualified as being next to the Pleiades to distinguish it from the other elbow. But this may indicate a different representation of Perseus in their day, — a suspicion strengthened by the nomenclature of others of his stars. Assemani alluded to a title on the Borgian globe, — Mughammid, or Muliammir, al Thurayya, "the Concealer of the Pleiades", — which, from its location, may be for this star.
Other titles were Algenib, with the early variations of Algeneb, Elgenab, Genib, Chenib, and Alchemb, is from Al Janb, "the Side", its present position on the maps. (Starnames, Their Lore and Meaning, Richard Hinchley Allen, 1889).
[link to winshop.com.au] |
| BadMoonRising
User ID: 199233
10/30/2007 12:11 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Concerning the found dates with comets..... This very well COULD be the same comet. However it isn't proof.
We have comets all the time. So, finding comets in historical writings shouldn't be strange.
Here's an example. I'm not stating this to be true just showing a point. Say I was to claim that the real orbit of the comet is only half of the 115 years and we just missed it or misunderstood last time that it was the same comet. So then we look up those years for comets and whalah... you are BOUND to find them. In this example, I looked up 1949 and 1950 and sure enough there were multiple comet postings for each year.
With so much stuff out there in space, how do we know FOR SURE what we are seeing is anything on a given orbit or something entirely new? Even taking into account that they have tried to figure out the orbits and speed, there are massive amounts of time that the objects are 'unseen' so who knows what hit them or pulled them. Orbits change, size changes, speed changes. It's not a nice neat little package that we think it is.
So in summary, finding the dates on the comet and then claiming this to be a 'nonevent'..... could be, but not completely proven by any means. Quoting: A_G1RL
I totally agree.
I was just chucking it out there... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317924
10/30/2007 12:16 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
pretty synchronistic that the documentary on Nostro's latest "hidden book" would be aired just after this comet flared...I don't believe in "co winky-dinkses" but I do believe in synchronicity...and this has all the ear marks of synchronized events to make us aware of impending doom...
even for the paranoids...who think everything is psyops...this heavenly event is beyond our technology and as many have observed this thing continues to approach earth...as unimaginable as this may seem, all you have to do to verify this is to look up.
"and every eye shall see the approach of the heavenly host"
not that there is a damn thing we can do to protect ourselves from its effects...the fact that the media is mum speaks volumes concerning their ignorance.
maybe it is a good test of your psychic abilities...if what ever you think is going to happen...you can trust your feeling from that point on...better late than never
where the hell is Nancy ... I would think she would be screaming from the house tops if she thought this was PX...maybe, she will see how blind the zetas really are if it is not...something of this magnitude doesn't just go un noticed by "off worlders" who claim to know what is coming. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319484
10/30/2007 12:19 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 255583
10/30/2007 12:24 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
For heavens sake. Every time there is a comet, people jump on the Nostradamus bandwagon. Or it has to be the blue kachina, even though this one is yellow. Just goes to show that the human race hasn't advanced all that much since the dark ages, when comets meant impending doom. Hale Bopp came and went, and several others, all were touted as being a sign of doom, and none of them were. Why can't people just look at them with awe and appreciation and maybe learn something. |
| Theteck
User ID: 319487
10/30/2007 12:26 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
its very weird all day that growing ....
and no tail ... that the most weird thing i see in the space .... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319336
10/30/2007 12:30 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
The Signs of the Times site created a new video based on research conducted, since 1994, on the clues given during the Cassiopaean channeling sessions.
I would posit, after looking at Kent's contributions to the Comet Holmes appearance, today, over at cyberspace.com, that what we are witnessing might not be one honking big comet, but a large tight cluster of comets, currently appearing as one due to their distance. This "comet's" coma is just not consistent with "normal" comets. This, coupled with some of the more recent pictures of the bizarre nucleus tend to lead me to lean toward the multiple objects theory.
The mainstream media is treating Holmes like Ron Paul. Why is that? This is an incredible event. I have a feeling that that there may be more of these on the way.
Something Wicked This Way Comes
War, rumors of war, corrupt governments run by psychopaths, phony terrorism, burgeoning police states...but is that all we have to worry about? What if there was something to put it all in context? Or rather, what if there is something else we are missing, something that is beyond the control of even the political and corporate elite; something that is driving them to attempt to herd the global population to an ever finer order of control...
A new sott.net video production:
[link to www.sott.net] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319336
10/30/2007 12:32 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
"It could be a cluster of comets or it could be a really large one that got whacked with a small asteroid that caused it to grow in brightness the same way NASA did it to temple last year.
If it got whacked hard enough by a big enough asteroid it could create a cluster.
I haven't found a article that describes it's direction. It sure looks like it headed straight for us." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 110292
10/30/2007 12:32 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Just goes to show that the human race hasn't advanced all that much since the dark ages, when comets meant impending doom. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 255583
AND THE WORLD IS FLAT |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319336
10/30/2007 12:33 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
"I am so thankful you posted about this. I, too, have had concerns about how I have not heard one bit about Comet Holmes in the MSM. Maybe I missed it if they had had something but I have yet to see anything.
I wonder if it is the "something" that is giving me the urge to live, but be prepared feeling.
I had just started showing the grandkids the constellations and planets visible in the sky when Comet Holmes appeared.
Even though all I have read on Comet Holmes has it NOT coming near earth, maybe I'm reading the wrong stuff.
If Comet Holmes was hit by something that made it get so bright, could that have knocked it off course, or on course headed for Earth?" |
| Michael
User ID: 181321
10/30/2007 12:35 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Quote from another thread….thought you all would like to see it…
Quote…
The comet’s location is close to the constellation Perseus..near the star “Mirphak”, which is the “belly” or “soul” area of said constellation.
Yes, one could say Perseus “Soul” is on fire….
Peace
yep, i'm inclined to agree with ya.
Fixed star: MIRFAK
Constellation: Alpha Perseus
Longitude 1900: 00GEM41. Longitude 2000: 02GEM05.
Declination 1900: +49.30'. Declination 2000: +49.52'.
Right ascension: 03h24m. Latitude: +30.07'.
Spectral class: F5. Magnitude: 1.9.
Suggested orb: 1 deg. approx. Planetary nature: Jup-Sat
History of the star: A brilliant lilac and ashy color star in the elbow of the Champion, Perseus.
Arabic Mirfak, Mirzac, Marfak or Al Mirfaq (1), "The elbow" of the Pleiades - i.e. next to the Pleiades. The title comes from the Arabians' Marfik al Thurayya, thus qualified as being next to the Pleiades to distinguish it from the other elbow. But this may indicate a different representation of Perseus in their day, — a suspicion strengthened by the nomenclature of others of his stars. Assemani alluded to a title on the Borgian globe, — Mughammid, or Muliammir, al Thurayya, "the Concealer of the Pleiades", — which, from its location, may be for this star.
Other titles were Algenib, with the early variations of Algeneb, Elgenab, Genib, Chenib, and Alchemb, is from Al Janb, "the Side", its present position on the maps. (Starnames, Their Lore and Meaning, Richard Hinchley Allen, 1889).
[ link to winshop.com.au]
Hello all
According to link you provided…the “stars” name is “MIRFAK”….not sure why Stellarium would call it “Mirphak”…my guess is that they switched the “f” from or to “ph” sometime in history…Like they did in the old days with “s” and “p” in the original King James version of the bible…or something like that… lol
Also from link posted….PERSEUS means…the Champion or Hero.
Interesting definition to say the last considering what I posted earlier…as in, its soul is on fire…
Well….off to the auto parts store…have to finish fixing the truck…winter coming fast!
Peace |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319336
10/30/2007 12:35 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 315041
10/30/2007 12:35 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
remember "noted and warned"?
To describe the great,´ beginning´ event in the series of events which constitute what some have called the ´end days´ events or ´the last days´. Religion itself though will not be considered a facter. All this will occur simultaneously with the approach and fulfillment of those events which constitute the beginning of these events. Some will die of the´ natural elements´ caused by the fires, earthquakes, floods and other disasters which shall come upon the Earth. A seeming cloud will descend to cover the whole Earth first,then a meteor will strike the Earth, first with its tail touching parts of the Earth, and then the full impact of the meteor will touch down in an area in the Western Hemisphere of the planet.
This does not necessarily mean the U.S.
First, the effect of the cloud of dust so great that it will block the sun and all the Earth will become as night. The dust from the meteor shower will bathe the Earth, leaving dirt everywhere and scorch the land and the skin, if you are outside. Most vegetation will die and those caught outside will die of burns. Animals will suffer.
People who must go outside, which is not recommended, will need to take extreme precautions against the dust and chemicals released by the clouds of meteor debris.
No one, it is recommended, should go outside, and all windows need to be covered so the dust does not enter your homes. Yes believe it or not duct tape will become a rare comodity. Homeland security is not as they tell you a moniker for terrorist security ,so read between the lines.
This covering you will need will be for many purposes. This is only one reason.
What you can then expect will be most dangerous. There will be an extremely flammable nature of this dust cloud and its dangerous toxic gases.
And yet this is only the beginning, for more dramatic events will occur. Due to the extreme impact of the meteor on our planet, there will be produced the greatest of all earthquakes imagined. One of the most powerful earth-shaking earthquake even will cause the entire top layer of our planet´s surface will shake for up to 20 minutes in some areas.
The earthquake shall range from 8. 5 to 10 on the Richter scale in various areas, which are near or far from the impact site of the meteor. It will appear as though the Earth has been destroyed, but it is not the end, only the beginning!
This EVENT will not take place on 16 APRIL 2004. This date is when the top levels of the worlds governments will realize the inevitable.
As stated on the first post, this is the beginning,not the end or dooms day as some might think, more will be revealed on what they plan to do. As some have complained just come out and SAY IT! This is only the half of it...
__________________________________________
re-cap cont:
This informatiion is
not a prophecy
not a dream
not a book deal
not from the zetas
not from the nancy
not channelling |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319336
10/30/2007 12:37 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
EXPLODING COMET: "Now that the diameter of Comet 17P/Holmes has increased so dramatically, finding it is child's play," says Laurent Laveder of Quimper, France. "Even my daughter and my stepdaughter know where to find it!" Last night, he took this picture of the girls pointing the way:
[link to www.spaceweather.com] |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 51202
10/30/2007 12:37 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 319336
Thanks, Kent always deserves a special mention.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319336
10/30/2007 12:37 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 110166
10/30/2007 12:41 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
Is Comet Holmes really a comet?
Looking at other pics of comets, Holmes seems to be in a league of its own. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319276
10/30/2007 12:52 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
[ link to www.greatdreams.com]
scroll to the bottom of the page people and there are some comet predictions, which MAY or MAY NOT concern our scary friend in the sky now
"The comet of Nostradamus ("great star") will light up the skies for a week before it strikes Earth. To avoid the approaching calamity, the pope will flee the Vatican. Concern for the pope's safety would be well justified because a straight line drawn from southern France, where the comet's effects are first noted (Quatrain I-46, page 3), to the Aegean, goes right over Rome. Equally striking is the Seer's use of the word "swarm," because that is just what a comet is: a swarm of matter. As it nears the Earth, the comet will be comparable in brightness to the sun. The "big mastiff" could have some abstract meaning, but it might also be straightforward, i.e., this pope will own a large pet guard dog."
anyone know what the pope is doing now? The vatican do have all of nostradamus' predictions in their possesion
Just heard on Zeph report that the Vatican library HAS NEVER CLOSED in 500 years, but closed this July (2007) for supposed remodeling. Interesting huh? See interview with John Moore, Zeph Reports. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 315041
10/30/2007 12:55 PM | | Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet' | Quote |
NASA Caveman:
The maximum date that he had given on the arrival of the said comet or asteroid was nine years from the year 1999.
That brings us to 2008 : we shall soon see whether or not it was an asteroid, a comet or just "marriage problems."
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] |
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