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17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'

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ricker
User ID: 319495
10/30/2007 12:55 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

What I don't understand is all of you that continue to claim this is a comet. There is zero proof it is a comet. Absolutely zero. It's not a comet. It's becoming more dense, more symmetrical, expanding brightness every night. Hmmmm, what fucking comet ever did that?? All these researchers can say is "this comet is doing things we've never seen before". That's because it's not a damn comet.
This is something that is coming towards our solar system that is planet like. Solar dust storm coming our way?? Now why would a solar dust storm be heading our way if something wasn't pushing it. Time for "professionals" to start thinking outside the box.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 260371
10/30/2007 1:00 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

What I don't understand is all of you that continue to claim this is a comet. There is zero proof it is a comet. Absolutely zero. It's not a comet. It's becoming more dense, more symmetrical, expanding brightness every night. Hmmmm, what fucking comet ever did that?? All these researchers can say is "this comet is doing things we've never seen before". That's because it's not a damn comet.
This is something that is coming towards our solar system that is planet like. Solar dust storm coming our way?? Now why would a solar dust storm be heading our way if something wasn't pushing it. Time for "professionals" to start thinking outside the box.
 Quoting: ricker



we don't really know what comets are anyway so chill out.

comet is simply a term of an object that orbits the sun that is not considered a planet.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319276
10/30/2007 1:02 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

[link to www.greatdreams.com]

scroll to the bottom of the page people and there are some comet predictions, which MAY or MAY NOT concern our scary friend in the sky now


"The comet of Nostradamus ("great star") will light up the skies for a week before it strikes Earth. To avoid the approaching calamity, the pope will flee the Vatican. Concern for the pope's safety would be well justified because a straight line drawn from southern France, where the comet's effects are first noted (Quatrain I-46, page 3), to the Aegean, goes right over Rome. Equally striking is the Seer's use of the word "swarm," because that is just what a comet is: a swarm of matter. As it nears the Earth, the comet will be comparable in brightness to the sun. The "big mastiff" could have some abstract meaning, but it might also be straightforward, i.e., this pope will own a large pet guard dog."

anyone know what the pope is doing now? The vatican do have all of nostradamus' predictions in their possesion
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300516



See 10/28/07 audio interview Zeph Report with John Moore. States in this interview that Vatican Library closed down in July 2007 presumably for remodeling. Vatican library has never been closed in last 500 years. Interesting huh?
AC not DC
User ID: 208509
10/30/2007 1:03 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

so comet is kinda like virus for anything thin doesn't fit the mold
Lily
User ID: 300820
10/30/2007 1:07 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

dup
How now brown cow?
Lily
User ID: 300820
10/30/2007 1:07 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Occam's razor ..... simple answer guys: len's flare. tounge
How now brown cow?
boy
User ID: 318941
10/30/2007 1:10 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

from the new title for the thread, i take it the comnot is brightening and biggening?


Total brightness has held pretty constant for the last 3 days. The size of the coma is increasing, now about 4 times size of Jupiter:

[link to www.arksky.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318980
dang man!! this is unfreakingreal!!! it says it did brighten a bit in the past 24 hrs. man. whoah, who knows where we go from here. 4x's the size of jupiter! i'm astounded. that is megahuge. and aint no way that amout of debris could come from a comet of that size, but then again i no longer think of this as a comet...
A_G1RL
User ID: 273050
10/30/2007 1:15 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

4x's the size of jupiter!
 Quoting: boy 318941

WOW.....
JUST FREAKIN WOW! That's HUGE.
"When freedom is at stake, silence is not golden....it's yellow" ?
[link to BoldVoices.TV]
boy
User ID: 318941
10/30/2007 1:21 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Man this runs top favorite ever GLP thread up there with the Lucifer project thread.

all the 7's in this configuration make it even more omen-ness to me. it's been lurking, waiting for the 7's to add up...

------------------------------------------------

Could you elaborate on those 7s I can't stop wondering about the Luciferic significance of this comet.

I do not think that they boy is saying that the comnot has Luciferic significance.

What boy is referring to is the Lucifer Project.... here take a look.

[link to youtube.com]
 Quoting: A_G1RL
i'm the unhip, i dont know about the lucifer project, but i do think the comnot and recent events do mean he's about to get his devil butt seriously kicked. as far as the 7s, they have big mystical meanings as well as eart/nature meanings, and the #7 attatched its self to me some years ago, so when i see 7's, i pay attention. i like to hang real loose and let the peices float around me and see how they coaless(sp). i dont like to get stuck, if ya know what i mean. but 7's!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 257523
10/30/2007 1:24 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

This may have already been suggested, but perhaps all this is the result of a clandestine, joint NASA/Russian/ESA effort to test the effectiveness a comet destroying probe, sent out to take out any possible threatening comets or asteroids. Perhaps this is a live test, using some kind of nuclear or as yet unheard of photon/laser weapon.

If so, then the question is: "In preparation for what?" Is there some other unwelcome visitor on the way to Earth that 'they' haven't told us about?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318941
10/30/2007 1:26 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Concerning the found dates with comets..... This very well COULD be the same comet. However it isn't proof.

We have comets all the time. So, finding comets in historical writings shouldn't be strange.

Here's an example. I'm not stating this to be true just showing a point. Say I was to claim that the real orbit of the comet is only half of the 115 years and we just missed it or misunderstood last time that it was the same comet.


Your first point is good A_GIRL there is zero evidence for the posts for a 115 period for this comet and 100% evidence for a 7 year period for this comet (it takes about 7 years to go round the Sun). The only connection between this comet and the number 115 is that it was first discovered in 1892 and in that year appeared to undergo a similar event to what is happening now. In all the times it has come back since it has not done anything very interesting. There are no recorded sightings of this comet prior to 1892 (which is probably due to it being faint almost all of the time, as it has been between 1892 and now).

Two brightening events do not make a pattern.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318980

SEVENS!!!!! and 115 is a 7 in my reasoning. i have now turned on my lava light, which i only do on holy days...777
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 122589
10/30/2007 1:31 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

What I don't understand is all of you that continue to claim this is a comet. There is zero proof it is a comet. Absolutely zero. It's not a comet. It's becoming more dense, more symmetrical, expanding brightness every night. Hmmmm, what fucking comet ever did that?? All these researchers can say is "this comet is doing things we've never seen before". That's because it's not a damn comet.
This is something that is coming towards our solar system that is planet like. Solar dust storm coming our way?? Now why would a solar dust storm be heading our way if something wasn't pushing it. Time for "professionals" to start thinking outside the box.
 Quoting: ricker

They are calling this a comet because everything we know of its past indicates it is a comet. It was originally discovered in 1892 during a outburst that brightened it significantly. Its orbit has been calculated and it has been seen on subsequent visits. It was being observed at magnitude 17 before the outburst, and it hasn't deviated from its calculated orbit since (although there really hasn't been much time to see a changed orbit yet).
boy
User ID: 318941
10/30/2007 1:35 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Man this runs top favorite ever GLP thread up there with the Lucifer project thread.

all the 7's in this configuration make it even more omen-ness to me. it's been lurking, waiting for the 7's to add up...

------------------------------------------------

Could you elaborate on those 7s I can't stop wondering about the Luciferic significance of this comet.

I do not think that they boy is saying that the comnot has Luciferic significance.

What boy is referring to is the Lucifer Project.... here take a look.

[link to youtube.com]
 Quoting: A_G1RL
ok now i know bout the lucifer project. those fiends, it seemed like they shot her, brought tears to my eyes. once all i painted for 2 yrs. was jupiter, i love her.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275504
10/30/2007 1:40 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

the solar panel on the space station has a big rip in it
boy
User ID: 318941
10/30/2007 1:40 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

pretty synchronistic that the documentary on Nostro's latest "hidden book" would be aired just after this comet flared...I don't believe in "co winky-dinkses" but I do believe in synchronicity...and this has all the ear marks of synchronized events to make us aware of impending doom...

even for the paranoids...who think everything is psyops...this heavenly event is beyond our technology and as many have observed this thing continues to approach earth...as unimaginable as this may seem, all you have to do to verify this is to look up.

"and every eye shall see the approach of the heavenly host"

not that there is a damn thing we can do to protect ourselves from its effects...the fact that the media is mum speaks volumes concerning their ignorance.

maybe it is a good test of your psychic abilities...if what ever you think is going to happen...you can trust your feeling from that point on...better late than never

where the hell is Nancy ... I would think she would be screaming from the house tops if she thought this was PX...maybe, she will see how blind the zetas really are if it is not...something of this magnitude doesn't just go un noticed by "off worlders" who claim to know what is coming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317924
i keep having the thought that someone needs to start a thread about the mystical ramifications of the comnot, and world events and stuff, theres alot to talk about, but i fear to say too much here because this thread is a nice happy medium and wont annoy anyone. so, who's gonna start the thread? not me.
ricker
User ID: 319495
10/30/2007 1:42 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

What I don't understand is all of you that continue to claim this is a comet. There is zero proof it is a comet. Absolutely zero. It's not a comet. It's becoming more dense, more symmetrical, expanding brightness every night. Hmmmm, what fucking comet ever did that?? All these researchers can say is "this comet is doing things we've never seen before". That's because it's not a damn comet.
This is something that is coming towards our solar system that is planet like. Solar dust storm coming our way?? Now why would a solar dust storm be heading our way if something wasn't pushing it. Time for "professionals" to start thinking outside the box.

They are calling this a comet because everything we know of its past indicates it is a comet. It was originally discovered in 1892 during a outburst that brightened it significantly. Its orbit has been calculated and it has been seen on subsequent visits. It was being observed at magnitude 17 before the outburst, and it hasn't deviated from its calculated orbit since (although there really hasn't been much time to see a changed orbit yet).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 122589



You're kidding me right? Would you mind putting up a link to show this comet did what it is doing now? Putting up information about the first person to find it DOES NOT mean shit. You're such a simpleton, just repeating shit that doesn't make sense.
boy
User ID: 318941
10/30/2007 1:45 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

For heavens sake. Every time there is a comet, people jump on the Nostradamus bandwagon. Or it has to be the blue kachina, even though this one is yellow. Just goes to show that the human race hasn't advanced all that much since the dark ages, when comets meant impending doom. Hale Bopp came and went, and several others, all were touted as being a sign of doom, and none of them were. Why can't people just look at them with awe and appreciation and maybe learn something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 255583
no offence poster, but i use this as an example as to why a more esoteric thread might be good, so that we do not annoy people. a thread of no religions and all religions kinda thing. i think this thread is good being neutral, i really dont want to see it hijacked by us more wild types.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 122589
10/30/2007 1:47 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

What I don't understand is all of you that continue to claim this is a comet. There is zero proof it is a comet. Absolutely zero. It's not a comet. It's becoming more dense, more symmetrical, expanding brightness every night. Hmmmm, what fucking comet ever did that?? All these researchers can say is "this comet is doing things we've never seen before". That's because it's not a damn comet.
This is something that is coming towards our solar system that is planet like. Solar dust storm coming our way?? Now why would a solar dust storm be heading our way if something wasn't pushing it. Time for "professionals" to start thinking outside the box.

They are calling this a comet because everything we know of its past indicates it is a comet. It was originally discovered in 1892 during a outburst that brightened it significantly. Its orbit has been calculated and it has been seen on subsequent visits. It was being observed at magnitude 17 before the outburst, and it hasn't deviated from its calculated orbit since (although there really hasn't been much time to see a changed orbit yet).



You're kidding me right? Would you mind putting up a link to show this comet did what it is doing now? Putting up information about the first person to find it DOES NOT mean shit. You're such a simpleton, just repeating shit that doesn't make sense.
 Quoting: ricker


Link for history of 17P/Holmes:

[link to www.cometography.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318980
10/30/2007 1:50 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Your first point is good A_GIRL there is zero evidence for the posts for a 115 period for this comet and 100% evidence for a 7 year period for this comet (it takes about 7 years to go round the Sun). The only connection between this comet and the number 115 is that it was first discovered in 1892 and in that year appeared to undergo a similar event to what is happening now. In all the times it has come back since it has not done anything very interesting. There are no recorded sightings of this comet prior to 1892 (which is probably due to it being faint almost all of the time, as it has been between 1892 and now).

Two brightening events do not make a pattern.

SEVENS!!!!! and 115 is a 7 in my reasoning. i have now turned on my lava light, which i only do on holy days...777
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318941

:-) chuckle
ricker
User ID: 319495
10/30/2007 1:50 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

For heavens sake. Every time there is a comet, people jump on the Nostradamus bandwagon. Or it has to be the blue kachina, even though this one is yellow. Just goes to show that the human race hasn't advanced all that much since the dark ages, when comets meant impending doom. Hale Bopp came and went, and several others, all were touted as being a sign of doom, and none of them were. Why can't people just look at them with awe and appreciation and maybe learn something.
no offence poster, but i use this as an example as to why a more esoteric thread might be good, so that we do not annoy people. a thread of no religions and all religions kinda thing. i think this thread is good being neutral, i really dont want to see it hijacked by us more wild types.
 Quoting: boy 318941


There is one that I made a couple days ago. I think it's called "Comet Holmes: Facts, images, articles
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319512
10/30/2007 1:51 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

PLANET X- INCOMING!!!!!!!!!
hiding
boy
User ID: 318941
10/30/2007 1:52 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

What I don't understand is all of you that continue to claim this is a comet. There is zero proof it is a comet. Absolutely zero. It's not a comet. It's becoming more dense, more symmetrical, expanding brightness every night. Hmmmm, what fucking comet ever did that?? All these researchers can say is "this comet is doing things we've never seen before". That's because it's not a damn comet.
This is something that is coming towards our solar system that is planet like. Solar dust storm coming our way?? Now why would a solar dust storm be heading our way if something wasn't pushing it. Time for "professionals" to start thinking outside the box.
 Quoting: ricker
i hear ya. girl and i have been calling it comnot, and Homes. well, eventually, prob. soon, its all gonna bust out of the box on this thing. it gets stranger every single day without fail.
ricker
User ID: 319495
10/30/2007 2:20 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

What you will continue to see is the "comet", "coma", nuclei" continue moving to the north while an even larger image gets bigger and bigger from the south. This little comet will be on the top right corner of a massive sphere that gets larger and larger and denser and denser. At some point they will have to stop calling the sphere "gasses" or CO2.
If you look at the comet or nuclei from it's first "outburst" you will realize it has not changed form at all. It has not lost density or changed shape. 2 nights ago they thought it split and that there were 2 nuclei, but then they realize it passed in front of another star.
Basically, the dense sphere that continues to grow has nothing to do with this comet. The comet only gets us to look in that direction. The sun's reflection off the dense solar dust is bringing into view an object out further in space. Maybe I'm wrong, but the comet theory is losing steam, and soon the comet will be out of sight, but the sphere will move forward. We'll have to wait and see, but the truth is coming straight at us
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319344
10/30/2007 2:34 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

4x's the size of jupiter!

WOW.....
JUST FREAKIN WOW! That's HUGE.
 Quoting: A_G1RL


Thats freaking immense !

A_G1RL has it spot on...... WOW !
boy
User ID: 318941
10/30/2007 2:35 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

What you will continue to see is the "comet", "coma", nuclei" continue moving to the north while an even larger image gets bigger and bigger from the south. This little comet will be on the top right corner of a massive sphere that gets larger and larger and denser and denser. At some point they will have to stop calling the sphere "gasses" or CO2.
If you look at the comet or nuclei from it's first "outburst" you will realize it has not changed form at all. It has not lost density or changed shape. 2 nights ago they thought it split and that there were 2 nuclei, but then they realize it passed in front of another star.
Basically, the dense sphere that continues to grow has nothing to do with this comet. The comet only gets us to look in that direction. The sun's reflection off the dense solar dust is bringing into view an object out further in space. Maybe I'm wrong, but the comet theory is losing steam, and soon the comet will be out of sight, but the sphere will move forward. We'll have to wait and see, but the truth is coming straight at us
 Quoting: ricker

yah, the truth is coming straight at us for sure. that cloud looks more like some kind of force field or something.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 309282
10/30/2007 2:36 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

What you will continue to see is the "comet", "coma", nuclei" continue moving to the north while an even larger image gets bigger and bigger from the south. This little comet will be on the top right corner of a massive sphere that gets larger and larger and denser and denser. At some point they will have to stop calling the sphere "gasses" or CO2.
If you look at the comet or nuclei from it's first "outburst" you will realize it has not changed form at all. It has not lost density or changed shape. 2 nights ago they thought it split and that there were 2 nuclei, but then they realize it passed in front of another star.
Basically, the dense sphere that continues to grow has nothing to do with this comet. The comet only gets us to look in that direction. The sun's reflection off the dense solar dust is bringing into view an object out further in space. Maybe I'm wrong, but the comet theory is losing steam, and soon the comet will be out of sight, but the sphere will move forward. We'll have to wait and see, but the truth is coming straight at us
 Quoting: ricker

WOW interesting. How did you come up with that idea. Just a thought? Or do you have more information?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 252048
10/30/2007 2:38 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

4x's the size of jupiter!

WOW.....
JUST FREAKIN WOW! That's HUGE.
 Quoting: A_G1RL



It keeps growing. This is it FOLKS BRACE FOR IMPACT!

2007 = 2012

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319344
10/30/2007 2:39 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

What you will continue to see is the "comet", "coma", nuclei" continue moving to the north while an even larger image gets bigger and bigger from the south. This little comet will be on the top right corner of a massive sphere that gets larger and larger and denser and denser. At some point they will have to stop calling the sphere "gasses" or CO2.
If you look at the comet or nuclei from it's first "outburst" you will realize it has not changed form at all. It has not lost density or changed shape. 2 nights ago they thought it split and that there were 2 nuclei, but then they realize it passed in front of another star.
Basically, the dense sphere that continues to grow has nothing to do with this comet. The comet only gets us to look in that direction. The sun's reflection off the dense solar dust is bringing into view an object out further in space. Maybe I'm wrong, but the comet theory is losing steam, and soon the comet will be out of sight, but the sphere will move forward. We'll have to wait and see, but the truth is coming straight at us
 Quoting: ricker


Hit the nail on the head.

A spread 4 times that of jupiter, 'shards' hurtling off into space that are freaking immense, and yet, the nuclei seems to be unperterbed in both its mass and orbit....

I would of at least expected to see orbit change after such a dramatic impact.

What ever is going on, its sure as heck raising a whole lot of eyes skyward.
boy
User ID: 318941
10/30/2007 2:40 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

since nobody else would i went ahead and started a comnot thread for all and any theories about this thing and things you feel are related.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193421
10/30/2007 2:40 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

4x's the size of jupiter!

WOW.....
JUST FREAKIN WOW! That's HUGE.
 Quoting: A_G1RL

Thats funny; thats what she always says to me.
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